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[email protected] 19-10-2014 05:59 PM

How do I know my starter is bad
 
Hi all.

How can I rescue my starter? I think has gone bad.

Best

graham[_4_] 19-10-2014 06:02 PM

How do I know my starter is bad
 
On 19/10/2014 10:59 AM, wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> How can I rescue my starter? I think has gone bad.
>
> Best
>

In what way has it "gone bad"?
Graham

Andrés Hidalgo Acuña 19-10-2014 06:43 PM

How do I know my starter is bad
 
On Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:32:51 PM UTC-4:30, graham wrote:
> On 19/10/2014 10:59 AM, wrote:
>
> > Hi all.

>
> >

>
> > How can I rescue my starter? I think has gone bad.

>
> >

>
> > Best

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> >

>
> In what way has it "gone bad"?
>
> Graham


It doesn't double nor bubbles up. It becomes almost liquid and elastic and it doesn't smell like it used to.

graham[_4_] 19-10-2014 06:50 PM

How do I know my starter is bad
 
On 19/10/2014 11:43 AM, Andrés Hidalgo Acuña wrote:
> On Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:32:51 PM UTC-4:30, graham wrote:
>> On 19/10/2014 10:59 AM, wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all.

>>
>>>

>>
>>> How can I rescue my starter? I think has gone bad.

>>
>>>

>>
>>> Best

>>
>>>

>>
>> In what way has it "gone bad"?
>>
>> Graham

>
> It doesn't double nor bubbles up. It becomes almost liquid and elastic and it doesn't smell like it used to.
>

I've had occasion to think that mine has died but after discarding most
of it, after 2-3 feedings, it has revived. I keep mine at ~60% hydration
and sometimes leave it for 2 months before feeding it. The first feeding
then might be a bit sluggish but the second is usually vigorous.
It wouldn't take too long to start a new one. While you are building up
the strength, add the discarded part to a yeast-raised dough to add flavour.
Graham

Andrés Hidalgo Acuña 19-10-2014 09:08 PM

How do I know my starter is bad
 
> >
>
> I've had occasion to think that mine has died but after discarding most
>
> of it, after 2-3 feedings, it has revived. I keep mine at ~60% hydration
>
> and sometimes leave it for 2 months before feeding it. The first feeding
>
> then might be a bit sluggish but the second is usually vigorous.
>
> It wouldn't take too long to start a new one. While you are building up
>
> the strength, add the discarded part to a yeast-raised dough to add flavour.
>
> Graham


Hi,

Thanks for replying

I've already completed three feedings and still no activity.

Cheers from Venezuela.

A.-

graham[_4_] 19-10-2014 10:34 PM

How do I know my starter is bad
 
On 19/10/2014 2:08 PM, Andrés Hidalgo Acuña wrote:
>>>

>>
>> I've had occasion to think that mine has died but after discarding most
>>
>> of it, after 2-3 feedings, it has revived. I keep mine at ~60% hydration
>>
>> and sometimes leave it for 2 months before feeding it. The first feeding
>>
>> then might be a bit sluggish but the second is usually vigorous.
>>
>> It wouldn't take too long to start a new one. While you are building up
>>
>> the strength, add the discarded part to a yeast-raised dough to add flavour.
>>
>> Graham

>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for replying
>
> I've already completed three feedings and still no activity.
>
> Cheers from Venezuela.
>
> A.-
>

Then I think you must start again. Use whole-wheat flour with a little
rye flour to start with and then feed with white. Alternatively, send
for this, although it might be awkward for you in Venezuela:

http://carlsfriends.net/


Graham (in Canada)

Rachel Schell-Lambert 20-10-2014 02:53 AM

How do I know my starter is bad
 
On Sunday, October 19, 2014 5:34:20 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
> On 19/10/2014 2:08 PM, Andr�s Hidalgo Acu�a wrote:
>
> >>>

>
> >>

>
> >> I've had occasion to think that mine has died but after discarding most

>
> >>

>
> >> of it, after 2-3 feedings, it has revived. I keep mine at ~60% hydration

>
> >>

>
> >> and sometimes leave it for 2 months before feeding it. The first feeding

>
> >>

>
> >> then might be a bit sluggish but the second is usually vigorous.

>
> >>

>
> >> It wouldn't take too long to start a new one. While you are building up

>
> >>

>
> >> the strength, add the discarded part to a yeast-raised dough to add flavour.

>
> >>

>
> >> Graham

>
> >

>
> > Hi,

>
> >

>
> > Thanks for replying

>
> >

>
> > I've already completed three feedings and still no activity.

>
> >

>
> > Cheers from Venezuela.

>
> >

>
> > A.-

>
> >

>
> Then I think you must start again. Use whole-wheat flour with a little
>
> rye flour to start with and then feed with white. Alternatively, send
>
> for this, although it might be awkward for you in Venezuela:
>
>
>
> http://carlsfriends.net/
>
>
>
>
>
> Graham (in Canada)


You might want to try waiting a little longer between feedings, and/or discard almost all the old starter and feed with lots of new flour and warm water and leave it alone for a little longer (at 75-80 degreesF). Also, no activity is rare if you're leaving it out with a cloth covering it--you want air to pass through, but not bugs or dirt. Something will cause activity, either the inherent starter culture or the wild yeast in the environment (all sourdough starters take on the culture of their environment). So maybe leave it for a while. If still nothing, then I'd wonder about the water you're using--is it heavily chlorinated? That might be killing the natural yeast. Try filtered water if you're not sure.

I keep my starter in a straight-sided tall glass jar and after I feed it, I put a rubber band around the jar at the level of the culture to remind myself where it was. Then I can see later that it has or hasn't risen--if I'm lucky I catch it when it's above the level of the band, or else there are remnants of when the culture had been there earlier in the day. Sometimes we just don't see it at its high point!

Suerte!
Rachel (USA)

Shadow[_3_] 22-10-2014 02:49 AM

How do I know my starter is bad
 
On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:59:31 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

>Hi all.


><from Venezuela>
>
>How can I rescue my starter? I think has gone bad.
>


I'm from Brazil, which has a similar climate. I've left my
starter in the fridge for almost 6 months, and 2-3 re-seeding later
it's recovered. It's been going since 2002. Or thereabouts.
One teaspoon of the old starter to a cup of water and a cup of
flour. Mix well, leave out of the fridge in a glass jar with a loose
plastic cover for a day or two. Mix it at least twice a day. I use a
wooden "churrasco" stick to mix it.
One big problem we have here is the water, it's high in
chlorine because of all the germs. Levels are much higher in summer.
Are you using mineral/dechlorinated or tap water ?
If you have lost it, a new batch only takes around 10 days to
produce. Assuming ambient temperatures of 30 - 35 centigrade.
2-3 days to produce first bubbles - reseed
2-3 days with that horrible baby-puke smell - reseed
After that let it climb up the jar and re-seed it when it
starts to fall back on itself. When it smells fruity it's ready.
[]'s

Or you can try this guy's recipe:

Starter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou6_MkIvKOo

Bread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc-BSDmgZwE

(In Portuguese)
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