It seems that there is much less activity here lately. Are folks moving
elsewhere?

dick

On Dec 19, 11:25 pm, Dick Heckman > wrote:
> It seems that there is much less activity here lately. Are folks moving
> elsewhere?
>
> dick

If they are anything like me Dick, it's the Christmas preparations,
finishing off work etc. Also with less fruit coming into season I
guess less wine is being made and less questions being asked
therefore. I did wonder myself though...

Jim

I check in every day - but don't have much need to start threads this
time of year; last year's grapes are now aging into wine in the cellar,
the vines are all dormant, and there isn't really much going on in the
winery. A little prep for some spring bottling, but that's about it.

Meanwhile - enjoying the wines from '05 and '06 right now!




On 2007-12-19 15:25:39 -0800, Dick Heckman > said:

> It seems that there is much less activity here lately. Are folks
> moving elsewhere?
>
> dick

Dick Heckman wrote:
> It seems that there is much less activity here lately. Are folks moving
> elsewhere?

I'm going to FL, USA for the Christmas Holiday. Did a second racking of
'07 Zin/Alicante last week - about 80 gals. Bottled 12 cases of '06
Shiraz/Zin/Alicante blend on Monday. Transferred 120L of '07 into
French Oak. Bringing down some '03 Cab/Zin,'04 Cab/Zin/Carignane,'05
Cab/Zin, and '06 Zin/Alicante for my 86 year old Dad for Christmas.

Steve

On Dec 19, 6:25 pm, Dick Heckman > wrote:
> It seems that there is much less activity here lately. Are folks moving
> elsewhere?
>
> dick

This is the original winemaking newsgroup, it's been around for close
to 15 years. To be honest, it's not only spawned a lot of other
groups but most questions have been asked and answered many times.
The groups was much more active years ago, but that is where a lot of
questions got answered. I might be willing to bet there are close to
a thousand posts on cleaning/ removing labels from bottles for
example. There really aren't that many ways to do that and I can
guarantee all of them have already been explored here.

I'm not saying it's outlived it's usefulness, just that there are
other groups out there now answering all these questions, again. So
'dilution' is occurring...

Joe

On Dec 20, 4:46*am, Joe Sallustio > wrote:
> On Dec 19, 6:25 pm, Dick Heckman > wrote:
>
> > It seems that there is much less activity here lately. *Are folks moving
> > elsewhere?
>
> > dick
>
> This is the original winemaking newsgroup, it's been around for close
> to 15 years. *To be honest, it's not only spawned a lot of other
> groups but most questions have been asked and answered many times.
> The groups was much more active years ago, but that is where a lot of
> questions got answered. *I might be willing to bet there are close to
> a thousand posts on cleaning/ removing labels from bottles for
> example. *There really aren't that many ways to do that and I can
> guarantee all of them have already been explored here.
>
> I'm not saying it's outlived it's usefulness, just that there are
> other groups out there now answering all these questions, again. *So
> 'dilution' is occurring... *
>
> Joe

I agree with Joe.

You can search almost any wine making question within this group and
you will find pages of relative info. I search first and if I don't
find the info/help I need, then I will post a question. Why post if
the info you need has been discussed multiple times. I think some of
the folks that have been around this site for awhile probably get
tired of the same old questions all the time. That said, this is a
great group and a wealth of information and if you don't like to
search and would rather post questions, I bet you will still get some
discussion.

Happy Holidays!

Jesse

Exactly, People have learned how to do searches. I assume that is the
reason also. It's very rare a "new" question is posted and just as
rare that a "new" answer will be given.

Bob

On Dec 27, 5:41*pm, wrote:
> On Dec 20, 4:46*am, Joe Sallustio > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 19, 6:25 pm, Dick Heckman > wrote:
>
> > > It seems that there is much less activity here lately. *Are folks moving
> > > elsewhere?
>
> > > dick
>
> > This is the original winemaking newsgroup, it's been around for close
> > to 15 years. *To be honest, it's not only spawned a lot of other
> > groups but most questions have been asked and answered many times.
> > The groups was much more active years ago, but that is where a lot of
> > questions got answered. *I might be willing to bet there are close to
> > a thousand posts on cleaning/ removing labels from bottles for
> > example. *There really aren't that many ways to do that and I can
> > guarantee all of them have already been explored here.
>
> > I'm not saying it's outlived it's usefulness, just that there are
> > other groups out there now answering all these questions, again. *So
> > 'dilution' is occurring... *
>
> > Joe
>
> I agree with Joe.
>
> You can search almost any wine making question within this group and
> you will find pages of relative info. I search first and if I don't
> find the info/help I need, then I will post a question. Why post if
> the info you need has been discussed multiple times. I think some of
> the folks that have been around this site for awhile probably get
> tired of the same old questions all the time. That said, this is a
> great group and a wealth of information and if you don't like to
> search and would rather post questions, I bet you will still get some
> discussion.
>
> Happy Holidays!
>
> Jesse

On Dec 27, 10:45 pm, wrote:
> Exactly, People have learned how to do searches. I assume that is the
> reason also. It's very rare a "new" question is posted and just as
> rare that a "new" answer will be given.
>
> Bob
>
> On Dec 27, 5:41 pm, wrote:
>
> > On Dec 20, 4:46 am, Joe Sallustio > wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 19, 6:25 pm, Dick Heckman > wrote:
>
> > > > It seems that there is much less activity here lately. Are folks moving
> > > > elsewhere?
>
> > > > dick
>
> > > This is the original winemaking newsgroup, it's been around for close
> > > to 15 years. To be honest, it's not only spawned a lot of other
> > > groups but most questions have been asked and answered many times.
> > > The groups was much more active years ago, but that is where a lot of
> > > questions got answered. I might be willing to bet there are close to
> > > a thousand posts on cleaning/ removing labels from bottles for
> > > example. There really aren't that many ways to do that and I can
> > > guarantee all of them have already been explored here.
>
> > > I'm not saying it's outlived it's usefulness, just that there are
> > > other groups out there now answering all these questions, again. So
> > > 'dilution' is occurring...
>
> > > Joe
>
> > I agree with Joe.
>
> > You can search almost any wine making question within this group and
> > you will find pages of relative info. I search first and if I don't
> > find the info/help I need, then I will post a question. Why post if
> > the info you need has been discussed multiple times. I think some of
> > the folks that have been around this site for awhile probably get
> > tired of the same old questions all the time. That said, this is a
> > great group and a wealth of information and if you don't like to
> > search and would rather post questions, I bet you will still get some
> > discussion.
>
> > Happy Holidays!
>
> > Jesse

I kind of agree and kind of don't.

Many people use the news-reader portion of outlook express. Unless
their newsgroup provider has unlimited retention and was there before
the start of this wine-making group they wouldn't be able to find the
messages in their news-client. They might not realise (as I didn't
till the middle of this year) that they could search the entire (I
think) archive on Google. Also, different practices and materials and
equipment arises from time to time, so it is on occasion worth
revisiting.

I agree in general though

On Dec 27, 9:55*pm, jim > wrote:
> On Dec 27, 10:45 pm, wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Exactly, People have learned how to do searches. I assume that is the
> > reason also. *It's very rare a "new" question is posted and just as
> > rare that a "new" answer will be given.
>
> > Bob
>
> > On Dec 27, 5:41 pm, wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 20, 4:46 am, Joe Sallustio > wrote:
>
> > > > On Dec 19, 6:25 pm, Dick Heckman > wrote:
>
> > > > > It seems that there is much less activity here lately. *Are folks moving
> > > > > elsewhere?
>
> > > > > dick
>
> > > > This is the original winemaking newsgroup, it's been around for close
> > > > to 15 years. *To be honest, it's not only spawned a lot of other
> > > > groups but most questions have been asked and answered many times.
> > > > The groups was much more active years ago, but that is where a lot of
> > > > questions got answered. *I might be willing to bet there are close to
> > > > a thousand posts on cleaning/ removing labels from bottles for
> > > > example. *There really aren't that many ways to do that and I can
> > > > guarantee all of them have already been explored here.
>
> > > > I'm not saying it's outlived it's usefulness, just that there are
> > > > other groups out there now answering all these questions, again. *So
> > > > 'dilution' is occurring... *
>
> > > > Joe
>
> > > I agree with Joe.
>
> > > You can search almost any wine making question within this group and
> > > you will find pages of relative info. I search first and if I don't
> > > find the info/help I need, then I will post a question. Why post if
> > > the info you need has been discussed multiple times. I think some of
> > > the folks that have been around this site for awhile probably get
> > > tired of the same old questions all the time. That said, this is a
> > > great group and a wealth of information and if you don't like to
> > > search and would rather post questions, I bet you will still get some
> > > discussion.
>
> > > Happy Holidays!
>
> > > Jesse
>
> I kind of agree and kind of don't.
>
> Many people use the news-reader portion of outlook express. *Unless
> their newsgroup provider has unlimited retention and was there before
> the start of this wine-making group they wouldn't be able to find the
> messages in their news-client. *They might not realise (as I didn't
> till the middle of this year) that they could search the entire (I
> think) archive on Google. *Also, different practices and materials and
> equipment arises from time to time, so it is on occasion worth
> revisiting.
>
> I agree in general though - Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Oh yeah, you can get the original posts from when they started the
group in Usenet back in 1993 on Google's archives. I probably have at
least 50 books on wine and winemaking but probably learned more here
on this group. You can never beat first hand experience. Google is
amazing, you can read 100 year old winemaking books now if you want
to...

Joe