Made a gallon of this "quick" wine while waiting for the native wild grapes
to come to fruition this year (BB size green grapes on the vine now!) I
bottled three bottles (0.750 L) and put the rest in glass this weekend.
Pleasantly surprised! Certainly better than any store bought Concord I have
ever tasted. It went nice and dry, and while I am too new to have any real
insight into the alcohol content, I can say that it made for a delightful
weekend. Am about to start some Welch's Niagara. I hope it turns out as
nice...

Quixote

On Apr 23, 10:03 pm, "Quixote" > wrote:
> Made a gallon of this "quick" wine while waiting for the native wild grapes
> to come to fruition this year (BB size green grapes on the vine now!) I
> bottled three bottles (0.750 L) and put the rest in glass this weekend.
> Pleasantly surprised! Certainly better than any store bought Concord I have
> ever tasted. It went nice and dry, and while I am too new to have any real
> insight into the alcohol content, I can say that it made for a delightful
> weekend. Am about to start some Welch's Niagara. I hope it turns out as
> nice...
>
> Quixote

I make this for my wife. She likes it, I "can drink it". I would love
one day to know what Jack K means when he says his friend makes a
"killer wine" from niagra.....does he mean killer good or killer
strong??! Or both!

Enjoy your wine and thanks for sharing

Sean

I think you will be even more impressed with the Niagara. It makes a great
blending wine to imporve country wines. Oh, the Niagara makes quick and it
goes over the hill quick. Don't expect to age it a year.

Ray

"Quixote" > wrote in message
...
> Made a gallon of this "quick" wine while waiting for the native wild
> grapes to come to fruition this year (BB size green grapes on the vine
> now!) I bottled three bottles (0.750 L) and put the rest in glass this
> weekend. Pleasantly surprised! Certainly better than any store bought
> Concord I have ever tasted. It went nice and dry, and while I am too new
> to have any real insight into the alcohol content, I can say that it made
> for a delightful weekend. Am about to start some Welch's Niagara. I hope
> it turns out as nice...
>
> Quixote
>

I don't know about that... we had a bottle of Niagara last evening that was
just over 3 years aged and seems to have aged well -- really crisp, good
fruit, good finish.

Maybe a fluke, but I won't be in too much hurry to drink up later batches.

Bart


"Ray Calvert" > wrote in message
. ..
>I think you will be even more impressed with the Niagara. It makes a great
>blending wine to imporve country wines. Oh, the Niagara makes quick and it
>goes over the hill quick. Don't expect to age it a year.
>
> Ray
>
> "Quixote" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Made a gallon of this "quick" wine while waiting for the native wild
>> grapes to come to fruition this year (BB size green grapes on the vine
>> now!) I bottled three bottles (0.750 L) and put the rest in glass this
>> weekend. Pleasantly surprised! Certainly better than any store bought
>> Concord I have ever tasted. It went nice and dry, and while I am too new
>> to have any real insight into the alcohol content, I can say that it made
>> for a delightful weekend. Am about to start some Welch's Niagara. I
>> hope it turns out as nice...
>>
>> Quixote
>>
>
>

Bart,
Ray and I have discussed this before...I think its a matter of individual
taste. I like quite a few of these wines from frozen juice concentrate, when
they are older too. The Niagara at 3 years is probably older than I've ever
let mine age, but I have let some of mine go to two years (the apple and
Apple-cherry). I do agree with Ray that some of them do go downhill...I did
a strawberry,apple,kiwi frozen mix which didn't taste as well at 2, but fine
earlier. I guess I'd always keep the thought in mind and taste along the
way, so you don't end of with a bunch of bottles which you don't like.
Darlene


"Bart" > wrote in message
...
>I don't know about that... we had a bottle of Niagara last evening that was
>just over 3 years aged and seems to have aged well -- really crisp, good
>fruit, good finish.
>
> Maybe a fluke, but I won't be in too much hurry to drink up later batches.
>
> Bart
>
>
> "Ray Calvert" > wrote in message
> . ..
>>I think you will be even more impressed with the Niagara. It makes a
>>great blending wine to imporve country wines. Oh, the Niagara makes quick
>>and it goes over the hill quick. Don't expect to age it a year.
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> "Quixote" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Made a gallon of this "quick" wine while waiting for the native wild
>>> grapes to come to fruition this year (BB size green grapes on the vine
>>> now!) I bottled three bottles (0.750 L) and put the rest in glass this
>>> weekend. Pleasantly surprised! Certainly better than any store bought
>>> Concord I have ever tasted. It went nice and dry, and while I am too
>>> new to have any real insight into the alcohol content, I can say that it
>>> made for a delightful weekend. Am about to start some Welch's Niagara.
>>> I hope it turns out as nice...
>>>
>>> Quixote
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Ray Calvert wrote:
> Niagara makes quick and it goes over the hill quick. Don't expect to age it a year.

Dar V wrote:
> I think its a matter of individual taste

I like Concord and Niagara at one year better than at a few months. If
I'd never seen Ray's comments, I'd be confidently telling people that
these wines need about a year before they're ready. Maybe it really is
just a difference in taste, I always chalked it up to that in the
past, but now I wonder if we're making it differently. I usually use
whatever brand of grape concentrate is on sale, so a lot of my
"Welch's" wine is made with Old Orchard juice. I've used both, and
never thought there was much difference, but who knows? Going over my
notes, I'm a little surprised at how much I varied the recipe before
settling on the one I use. I've tried everything from no additional
acid to 1.5 tsp/gallon, which is what I use now.

Ray, if you're using less acid than I am, maybe that makes it
drinkable sooner. It might also explain why it doesn't age as well.

Erroll
www.washingtonwinemaker.com

Erroll Ozgencil wrote:

> Ray Calvert wrote:
>> Niagara makes quick and it goes over the hill
>> quick. Don't expect to age it a year.
>
> Dar V wrote:
>> I think its a matter of individual taste
>
> I like Concord and Niagara at one year better
> than at a few months. If I'd never seen Ray's
> comments, I'd be confidently telling people that
> these wines need about a year before they're
> ready. Maybe it really is just a difference in
> taste, I always chalked it up to that in the
> past, but now I wonder if we're making it
> differently. I usually use whatever brand of
> grape concentrate is on sale, so a lot of my
> "Welch's" wine is made with Old Orchard juice.
> I've used both, and never thought there was much
> difference, but who knows? Going over my notes,
> I'm a little surprised at how much I varied the
> recipe before settling on the one I use. I've
> tried everything from no additional acid to 1.5
> tsp/gallon, which is what I use now.
>
> Ray, if you're using less acid than I am, maybe
> that makes it drinkable sooner. It might also
> explain why it doesn't age as well.
>
> Erroll
> www.washingtonwinemaker.com

My experience is the same as Ray's. I titrate to
get the acidity in the range for a white wine and
adjust accordingly and still think the Welch's
Niagra from frozen juice goes down hill after 6
to 8 months. Obviously others have different
experiences and or taste.