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I ended up doing three batches of Orange Plum jam (from the Ball Complete
Book of Preserving) yesterday before I ran out of energy. Total yield was 24 8-ounce jars and 3 4-ounce jars. And there is probably still half a box left. I was a little disappointed to find that much of the fruit was already overripe. I prefer it slightly on the underripe side, but these plums were to the point where cutting them in half or slicing was not an open. Couldn't get the pits out without mangling the plum. Not that it matters much when you're making jam and it's just going into the food processor to chop a bit. The recipe calls for 1/4 cup orange liqueur (it's optional, though) as well as orange zest. Didn't say you could make a substitution instead of just omitting the liqueur, but I replaced it with fresh squeezed orange juice. Have to do something with the orange after you scrape the peel off anyway. I was a little worried as it seemed on the runny side when I put it in the jars, but this morning it seems to have set up nicely. It's a nice color. But I still have the rest of the plums to deal with and I'm looking at the recipe for Plum Chutney in the Ball Complete Book of Preserving. I think I have everything I need without going to the store, which is a plus. I still have to do my normal workload (I'm a transcriptionist who works from home) so it may have to wait until late afternoon. -Marilyn |
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Marilyn wrote:
> The recipe calls for 1/4 cup orange liqueur (it's optional, though) > as well as orange zest. Didn't say you could make a substitution > instead of just omitting the liqueur, but I replaced it with fresh > squeezed orange juice. Have to do something with the orange after you > scrape the peel off anyway. True, but I've found when doing non-alchol cooking that the frozen concentrate, undiluted, works better than the juice in a recipe. That goes for any juice that has a corresponding concentrate, of course. B/ |
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"Brian Mailman" > wrote in message
m... > Marilyn wrote: > >> The recipe calls for 1/4 cup orange liqueur (it's optional, though) >> as well as orange zest. Didn't say you could make a substitution >> instead of just omitting the liqueur, but I replaced it with fresh >> squeezed orange juice. Have to do something with the orange after you >> scrape the peel off anyway. > > True, but I've found when doing non-alchol cooking that the frozen > concentrate, undiluted, works better than the juice in a recipe. That > goes for any juice that has a corresponding concentrate, of course. > > B/ I wasn't sure about that, but I like the fresh juice. Some of the jars still look a little on the runny side, but I'll give them a few days to see what happens. |
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"Marilyn" > wrote: > But I still have the rest of the plums to deal with and I'm looking at the > recipe for Plum Chutney in the Ball Complete Book of Preserving. > -Marilyn It all sounds tasty, Marilyn. The overripe ones would have been good for butter if they had good flavor to start with. -- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Yes, I Can! blog - check it out And check this, too: http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=8279841&page=1 |
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"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
... > In article >, > "Marilyn" > wrote: >> But I still have the rest of the plums to deal with and I'm looking at >> the >> recipe for Plum Chutney in the Ball Complete Book of Preserving. >> -Marilyn > > It all sounds tasty, Marilyn. The overripe ones would have been good > for butter if they had good flavor to start with. > -- > -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ > http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Yes, I Can! blog - check it out > And check this, too: > http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=8279841&page=1 Butter would have been a possibility, too, but I went with the chutney just because it's something out of the ordinary and I get tired of the same old things.. Last night my husband helped me pit them until we got the requisite 16 cups chopped that the recipe calls for. Mixed a little ascorbic acid in with them to keep the color from turning brown and put them in the fridge. Later today I'll get the chutney made. Just a side note. I quit buying the commercial Fruit Fresh because it so darned expensive for the small amount you get. I buy big bottles of Vitamin C (the uncolored kind) tablets and crush them into powder using a mortar and pestle. Works just as well for a fraction of the price. -Marilyn |
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Marilyn wrote:
> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message > ... >> In article >, >> "Marilyn" > wrote: >>> But I still have the rest of the plums to deal with and I'm looking at >>> the >>> recipe for Plum Chutney in the Ball Complete Book of Preserving. >>> -Marilyn >> It all sounds tasty, Marilyn. The overripe ones would have been good >> for butter if they had good flavor to start with. >> -- >> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ >> http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Yes, I Can! blog - check it out >> And check this, too: >> http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=8279841&page=1 snipped section > Just a side note. I quit buying the commercial Fruit Fresh because it so > darned expensive for the small amount you get. I buy big bottles of Vitamin > C (the uncolored kind) tablets and crush them into powder using a mortar and > pestle. Works just as well for a fraction of the price. > > -Marilyn > > I do the same thing, generally get them at the local Kroger store in their brand name. Usually twofers, buy one huge bottle, get another free. I get the 1000 mg tablets, takes about three to treat a whole container of fruit, just run them through the spice mill or the porcelain mortar until finely powdered, then mix with the water. Two big bottles is about equivalent to ten or twelve containers of Fruit Fresh at about 1/10 the cost. |
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"George Shirley" > wrote in message
... > Marilyn wrote: >> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message >> ... >>> In article >, >>> "Marilyn" > wrote: >>>> But I still have the rest of the plums to deal with and I'm looking at >>>> the >>>> recipe for Plum Chutney in the Ball Complete Book of Preserving. >>>> -Marilyn >>> It all sounds tasty, Marilyn. The overripe ones would have been good >>> for butter if they had good flavor to start with. >>> -- >>> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ >>> http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Yes, I Can! blog - check it out >>> And check this, too: >>> http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=8279841&page=1 > snipped section >> Just a side note. I quit buying the commercial Fruit Fresh because it so >> darned expensive for the small amount you get. I buy big bottles of >> Vitamin C (the uncolored kind) tablets and crush them into powder using a >> mortar and pestle. Works just as well for a fraction of the price. >> >> -Marilyn >> >> > I do the same thing, generally get them at the local Kroger store in their > brand name. Usually twofers, buy one huge bottle, get another free. I get > the 1000 mg tablets, takes about three to treat a whole container of > fruit, just run them through the spice mill or the porcelain mortar until > finely powdered, then mix with the water. Two big bottles is about > equivalent to ten or twelve containers of Fruit Fresh at about 1/10 the > cost. Yep, think I bought the bottle I have at Walmart. I just do a bunch at once and put it in a ziploc bag to use when needed. Then sprinkle a little in the bottom of the bowl I'm putting the fruit in and mix with water. When I was doing the plums I put them directly into the food processor so after I chopped them and put them in the plastic containers, I just sprinkled and stirred without adding water since there was plenty of juice. Today, I am fighting with removing labels from pint jars so I can reuse them. See, last fall, my husband went to the local LDS cannery and worked an evening shift there bottling jars of salsa. In return for his labor, he was able to purchase three cases of salsa at $12 a case, I think it was (well, he could have purchased more, but that's all we got). A really good deal when you consider that you're getting the jars filled with product and then the jars themselves are standard Kerr pint jars. But whoever designed the labels wasn't thinking about what the adhesive was and that someone might want to reuse the jars without those labels. I don't know what was going through their minds. I had to soak the jars in boiling water and dish soap to get the paper to soften up. but then there's the adhesive. I've used WD-40 on it, but now the jars are all scummy from that. Next to try is paint thinner and then running the jars through the dishwasher. -Marilyn |
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Marilyn wrote:
> "George Shirley" > wrote in message > ... >> Marilyn wrote: >>> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> In article >, >>>> "Marilyn" > wrote: >>>>> But I still have the rest of the plums to deal with and I'm looking at >>>>> the >>>>> recipe for Plum Chutney in the Ball Complete Book of Preserving. >>>>> -Marilyn >>>> It all sounds tasty, Marilyn. The overripe ones would have been good >>>> for butter if they had good flavor to start with. >>>> -- >>>> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ >>>> http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Yes, I Can! blog - check it out >>>> And check this, too: >>>> http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=8279841&page=1 >> snipped section >>> Just a side note. I quit buying the commercial Fruit Fresh because it so >>> darned expensive for the small amount you get. I buy big bottles of >>> Vitamin C (the uncolored kind) tablets and crush them into powder using a >>> mortar and pestle. Works just as well for a fraction of the price. >>> >>> -Marilyn >>> >>> >> I do the same thing, generally get them at the local Kroger store in their >> brand name. Usually twofers, buy one huge bottle, get another free. I get >> the 1000 mg tablets, takes about three to treat a whole container of >> fruit, just run them through the spice mill or the porcelain mortar until >> finely powdered, then mix with the water. Two big bottles is about >> equivalent to ten or twelve containers of Fruit Fresh at about 1/10 the >> cost. > > Yep, think I bought the bottle I have at Walmart. I just do a bunch at once > and put it in a ziploc bag to use when needed. Then sprinkle a little in > the bottom of the bowl I'm putting the fruit in and mix with water. When I > was doing the plums I put them directly into the food processor so after I > chopped them and put them in the plastic containers, I just sprinkled and > stirred without adding water since there was plenty of juice. > > Today, I am fighting with removing labels from pint jars so I can reuse > them. See, last fall, my husband went to the local LDS cannery and worked > an evening shift there bottling jars of salsa. In return for his labor, he > was able to purchase three cases of salsa at $12 a case, I think it was > (well, he could have purchased more, but that's all we got). A really good > deal when you consider that you're getting the jars filled with product and > then the jars themselves are standard Kerr pint jars. > > But whoever designed the labels wasn't thinking about what the adhesive was > and that someone might want to reuse the jars without those labels. I don't > know what was going through their minds. I had to soak the jars in boiling > water and dish soap to get the paper to soften up. but then there's the > adhesive. I've used WD-40 on it, but now the jars are all scummy from that. > Next to try is paint thinner and then running the jars through the > dishwasher. > > -Marilyn > > > Best thing I've found for removing the adhesive is Goo-Be-Gone, comes in a bottle, found mine in the local Kroger but I'm sure Walmart has it too. Put the GBG on the adhesive, let it sit a minute, roll it off with your thumb or a cloth. |
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George Shirley wrote:
> Marilyn wrote: >> But whoever designed the labels wasn't thinking about what the >> adhesive was and that someone might want to reuse the jars without >> those labels. I don't know what was going through their minds. I >> had to soak the jars in boiling water and dish soap to get the >> paper to soften up. but then there's the adhesive. I've used >> WD-40 on it, but now the jars are all scummy from that. Next to try >> is paint thinner and then running the jars through the dishwasher. >> > Best thing I've found for removing the adhesive is Goo-Be-Gone, comes > in a bottle, found mine in the local Kroger but I'm sure Walmart has > it too. Put the GBG on the adhesive, let it sit a minute, roll it off > with your thumb or a cloth. The brand here is called "Goof-Off." Any hardware store prolly has a similar product. B/ |
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"George Shirley" > wrote in message
... > Marilyn wrote: >> "George Shirley" > wrote in message >> ... >>> Marilyn wrote: >>>> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> In article >, >>>>> "Marilyn" > wrote: >>>>>> But I still have the rest of the plums to deal with and I'm looking >>>>>> at the >>>>>> recipe for Plum Chutney in the Ball Complete Book of Preserving. >>>>>> -Marilyn >>>>> It all sounds tasty, Marilyn. The overripe ones would have been good >>>>> for butter if they had good flavor to start with. >>>>> -- >>>>> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ >>>>> http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Yes, I Can! blog - check it out >>>>> And check this, too: >>>>> http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=8279841&page=1 >>> snipped section >>>> Just a side note. I quit buying the commercial Fruit Fresh because it >>>> so darned expensive for the small amount you get. I buy big bottles of >>>> Vitamin C (the uncolored kind) tablets and crush them into powder using >>>> a mortar and pestle. Works just as well for a fraction of the price. >>>> >>>> -Marilyn >>>> >>>> >>> I do the same thing, generally get them at the local Kroger store in >>> their brand name. Usually twofers, buy one huge bottle, get another >>> free. I get the 1000 mg tablets, takes about three to treat a whole >>> container of fruit, just run them through the spice mill or the >>> porcelain mortar until finely powdered, then mix with the water. Two big >>> bottles is about equivalent to ten or twelve containers of Fruit Fresh >>> at about 1/10 the cost. >> >> Yep, think I bought the bottle I have at Walmart. I just do a bunch at >> once and put it in a ziploc bag to use when needed. Then sprinkle a >> little in the bottom of the bowl I'm putting the fruit in and mix with >> water. When I was doing the plums I put them directly into the food >> processor so after I chopped them and put them in the plastic containers, >> I just sprinkled and stirred without adding water since there was plenty >> of juice. >> >> Today, I am fighting with removing labels from pint jars so I can reuse >> them. See, last fall, my husband went to the local LDS cannery and >> worked an evening shift there bottling jars of salsa. In return for his >> labor, he was able to purchase three cases of salsa at $12 a case, I >> think it was (well, he could have purchased more, but that's all we got). >> A really good deal when you consider that you're getting the jars filled >> with product and then the jars themselves are standard Kerr pint jars. >> >> But whoever designed the labels wasn't thinking about what the adhesive >> was and that someone might want to reuse the jars without those labels. >> I don't know what was going through their minds. I had to soak the jars >> in boiling water and dish soap to get the paper to soften up. but then >> there's the adhesive. I've used WD-40 on it, but now the jars are all >> scummy from that. Next to try is paint thinner and then running the jars >> through the dishwasher. >> >> -Marilyn >> >> >> > Best thing I've found for removing the adhesive is Goo-Be-Gone, comes in a > bottle, found mine in the local Kroger but I'm sure Walmart has it too. > Put the GBG on the adhesive, let it sit a minute, roll it off with your > thumb or a cloth. Yeah, the paint thinner and dishwasher did not work. The jars still came out all sticky. I think I may have some Goo-Be-Gone hiding around here. Used to use it to get chewing gum out of the kids' clothes when they were little. |
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That is precisely why I don't use sticky labels. You have to
practically set an explosive under the jar to get the label off. I use plain paper labels and plain 'ole glue stick. The label slips right off after a brief soak and into the dishwasher the jar goes. I've never had a complaint from any of my recipients that the label came off before the jar contents were gone. I make them using Print Artist--using the business card template. It's kind of fun to design them as you can import graphics appropriate for what's inside. |
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"Marilyn" > wrote: > > But whoever designed the labels wasn't thinking about what the adhesive was > and that someone might want to reuse the jars without those labels. I don't > know what was going through their minds. I had to soak the jars in boiling > water and dish soap to get the paper to soften up. but then there's the > adhesive. I've used WD-40 on it, but now the jars are all scummy from that. > Next to try is paint thinner and then running the jars through the > dishwasher. > > -Marilyn I use Goof Off and get a free buzz in the process. :-) My technique is to cut paper toweling about the size of the label and wet it with the Goof-Off and let it soak for a minute or so. It usually comes off easily at that point. Then I wash with hot soapy water. Goof-Off is available at the big box home supply stores; probably a paint store, too. First heard of it from a painter. -- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Yes, I Can! blog - check it out And check this, too: http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=8279841&page=1 |
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"Mimi" > wrote in message
... > That is precisely why I don't use sticky labels. You have to > practically set an explosive under the jar to get the label off. > > I use plain paper labels and plain 'ole glue stick. The label slips > right off after a brief soak and into the dishwasher the jar goes. > I've never had a complaint from any of my recipients that the label > came off before the jar contents were gone. I make them using Print > Artist--using the business card template. It's kind of fun to design > them as you can import graphics appropriate for what's inside. Even the labels that you can buy from Ball will come off the jars if you soak them a little while. The newest jelly jars I bought under the Kerr label have silver lids, silver bands and decorate labels with silver design on them. |
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Marilyn wrote:
> "Mimi" > wrote in message > ... >> That is precisely why I don't use sticky labels. You have to >> practically set an explosive under the jar to get the label off. >> >> I use plain paper labels and plain 'ole glue stick. The label slips >> right off after a brief soak and into the dishwasher the jar goes. >> I've never had a complaint from any of my recipients that the label >> came off before the jar contents were gone. I make them using Print >> Artist--using the business card template. It's kind of fun to design >> them as you can import graphics appropriate for what's inside. > > Even the labels that you can buy from Ball will come off the jars if you > soak them a little while. The newest jelly jars I bought under the Kerr > label have silver lids, silver bands and decorate labels with silver design > on them. > > > The silver lids and bands are the 125th anniversary ones. I bought one case of Ball locally and our eldest granddaughter, the coupon queen, brought us a case of Kerr with the same lids and rings. Takes a little getting used to I guess. |
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George Shirley > wrote: > The silver lids and bands are the 125th anniversary ones. I bought one > case of Ball locally and our eldest granddaughter, the coupon queen, > brought us a case of Kerr with the same lids and rings. Takes a little > getting used to I guess. I like them. Someone here said a couple years ago that this was going to be the next change in the lids and rings ‹ that they are the 'natural' color of the ring, not coated with the gold-color stuff. The Ball Elite jars have had them since they came out 2-3 years ago. This is the first year I've seen them on anything but those. What I do not like is the bottom shape of the pint jars ‹ they don't stack neatly with or without the ring in place. Same thing with the 4-oz jars. Their bottom diameter is just a shade over the inside diameter of the ring; they don't stack with the ring in place. For a year or two there was a Kerr label on 4-oz jars that had a fruit pattern embossed and the base was just small enough to fit inside the ring below it if you wanted to stack them. I never have been fond of the quilted pattern. Not enough flat real estate for a label. -- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Yes, I Can! blog - check it out And check this, too: http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=8279841&page=1 |
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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >, > George Shirley > wrote: > >> The silver lids and bands are the 125th anniversary ones. I bought one >> case of Ball locally and our eldest granddaughter, the coupon queen, >> brought us a case of Kerr with the same lids and rings. Takes a little >> getting used to I guess. > > I like them. Someone here said a couple years ago that this was going > to be the next change in the lids and rings ‹ that they are the > 'natural' color of the ring, not coated with the gold-color stuff. The > Ball Elite jars have had them since they came out 2-3 years ago. This > is the first year I've seen them on anything but those. > > What I do not like is the bottom shape of the pint jars ‹ they don't > stack neatly with or without the ring in place. Same thing with the > 4-oz jars. Their bottom diameter is just a shade over the inside > diameter of the ring; they don't stack with the ring in place. For a > year or two there was a Kerr label on 4-oz jars that had a fruit pattern > embossed and the base was just small enough to fit inside the ring below > it if you wanted to stack them. I never have been fond of the quilted > pattern. Not enough flat real estate for a label. > > I'm thinking of going to round labels to just fit the lid inside the ring. I know this probably won't work for fair entries but I've, so far, resisted becoming a ribbon slut. <G> |
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:11:22 -0500, George Shirley
> wrote: >Melba's Jammin' wrote: >> In article >, >> George Shirley > wrote: >> >>> The silver lids and bands are the 125th anniversary ones. I bought one >>> case of Ball locally and our eldest granddaughter, the coupon queen, >>> brought us a case of Kerr with the same lids and rings. Takes a little >>> getting used to I guess. >> >> I like them. Someone here said a couple years ago that this was going >> to be the next change in the lids and rings ‹ that they are the >> 'natural' color of the ring, not coated with the gold-color stuff. The >> Ball Elite jars have had them since they came out 2-3 years ago. This >> is the first year I've seen them on anything but those. >> >> What I do not like is the bottom shape of the pint jars ‹ they don't >> stack neatly with or without the ring in place. Same thing with the >> 4-oz jars. Their bottom diameter is just a shade over the inside >> diameter of the ring; they don't stack with the ring in place. For a >> year or two there was a Kerr label on 4-oz jars that had a fruit pattern >> embossed and the base was just small enough to fit inside the ring below >> it if you wanted to stack them. I never have been fond of the quilted >> pattern. Not enough flat real estate for a label. >> >> >I'm thinking of going to round labels to just fit the lid inside the >ring. I know this probably won't work for fair entries but I've, so far, >resisted becoming a ribbon slut. <G> I have been putting round labels on the lids of my jars for several years. That way I do not have to worry about getting them off of the jars. Avery 5294 (or a knock off) works well. It is 2.5" diameter. For fair entries I have to use mailing type labels on the lower edge of the jar. The only thing on the lid is the current year written with a Sharpie. -- Susan N. "Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral, 48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy." Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974) |
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George Shirley > wrote: > I'm thinking of going to round labels to just fit the lid inside the > ring. I know this probably won't work for fair entries but I've, so far, > resisted becoming a ribbon slut. <G> I think it looks cooler to put the label on the side of the jar and that's what I do most of the time. My Fair entries have an Avery 6461 (removable) on them. When I put a bunch in a gift basket, I feel like I can be a little more artful arranging the jars when the label is on the side of the jar. I put the labels on the lids of the 4-ounce jars. I'm in the process of making my Fair labels‹Name of product, processing information, lot number, date of pack, my entry number. I haven't decided if I'll use the Avery 5267 for my jellies; if I do, I'll need another of the same to hold the processing info. One of the judges scolded me a bit for using the 5160 on my jellies. She said she couldn't get as good a look at the jelly with the larger label. I told her I liked the idea. :-) Can't remember what I did last year. -- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Yes, I Can! blog - check it out And check this, too: http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=8279841&page=1 |
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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >, > George Shirley > wrote: > >> I'm thinking of going to round labels to just fit the lid inside the >> ring. I know this probably won't work for fair entries but I've, so far, >> resisted becoming a ribbon slut. <G> > > I think it looks cooler to put the label on the side of the jar and > that's what I do most of the time. My Fair entries have an Avery 6461 > (removable) on them. When I put a bunch in a gift basket, I feel like I > can be a little more artful arranging the jars when the label is on the > side of the jar. I put the labels on the lids of the 4-ounce jars. > I'm in the process of making my Fair labels‹Name of product, processing > information, lot number, date of pack, my entry number. Item 1: I don't enter fairs, I also don't arrange things in a gift basket. Folks get them in a used box that something else came in or in a doubled plastic grocery sack. <G> Until such time as our local fair actually judges entries versus giving every entrant a ribbon and a dollar bill, I will just give the stuff away to friends and family. > > I haven't decided if I'll use the Avery 5267 for my jellies; if I do, > I'll need another of the same to hold the processing info. One of the > judges scolded me a bit for using the 5160 on my jellies. She said she > couldn't get as good a look at the jelly with the larger label. I told > her I liked the idea. :-) > > Can't remember what I did last year. Shucks, I can barely remember yesterday. Remember, you're a lot younger than many of us. |
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"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
... > In article >, > George Shirley > wrote: > >> The silver lids and bands are the 125th anniversary ones. I bought one >> case of Ball locally and our eldest granddaughter, the coupon queen, >> brought us a case of Kerr with the same lids and rings. Takes a little >> getting used to I guess. > > I like them. Someone here said a couple years ago that this was going > to be the next change in the lids and rings < that they are the > 'natural' color of the ring, not coated with the gold-color stuff. The > Ball Elite jars have had them since they came out 2-3 years ago. This > is the first year I've seen them on anything but those. > > What I do not like is the bottom shape of the pint jars < they don't > stack neatly with or without the ring in place. Same thing with the > 4-oz jars. Their bottom diameter is just a shade over the inside > diameter of the ring; they don't stack with the ring in place. For a > year or two there was a Kerr label on 4-oz jars that had a fruit pattern > embossed and the base was just small enough to fit inside the ring below > it if you wanted to stack them. I never have been fond of the quilted > pattern. Not enough flat real estate for a label. > > > -- > -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ I haven't bought any of the pints yet. Usually, I don't put labels on my jars because I don't enter them in any fairs or even give them away for the most part. If I do give them away, then I will put one of those fancy labels on them. At home, my labeling method of choice is a black Sharpie fine point marker Product and date go on the lid. As for the color of the bands and lids, I don't really care about that either. The bands only get left on long enough to make sure the seal is there and then they get removed and washed to be used over. But the labels in question that prompted this discussion were done in a "commercial cannery", even though the jars are standard canning jars, the cannery has to follow strict guidelines. I just wish they'd use some other label. As it is, the labels don't really fit on the jars well. |
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Marilyn wrote:
> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message > ... >> In article >, >> George Shirley > wrote: >> >>> The silver lids and bands are the 125th anniversary ones. I bought one >>> case of Ball locally and our eldest granddaughter, the coupon queen, >>> brought us a case of Kerr with the same lids and rings. Takes a little >>> getting used to I guess. >> I like them. Someone here said a couple years ago that this was going >> to be the next change in the lids and rings < that they are the >> 'natural' color of the ring, not coated with the gold-color stuff. The >> Ball Elite jars have had them since they came out 2-3 years ago. This >> is the first year I've seen them on anything but those. >> >> What I do not like is the bottom shape of the pint jars < they don't >> stack neatly with or without the ring in place. Same thing with the >> 4-oz jars. Their bottom diameter is just a shade over the inside >> diameter of the ring; they don't stack with the ring in place. For a >> year or two there was a Kerr label on 4-oz jars that had a fruit pattern >> embossed and the base was just small enough to fit inside the ring below >> it if you wanted to stack them. I never have been fond of the quilted >> pattern. Not enough flat real estate for a label. >> >> >> -- >> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ > > I haven't bought any of the pints yet. Usually, I don't put labels on my > jars because I don't enter them in any fairs or even give them away for the > most part. If I do give them away, then I will put one of those fancy > labels on them. At home, my labeling method of choice is a black Sharpie > fine point marker Product and date go on the lid. That's generally what we do also. > > As for the color of the bands and lids, I don't really care about that > either. The bands only get left on long enough to make sure the seal is > there and then they get removed and washed to be used over. Great minds and all that, that's what we do too. When we give jars of stuff away I put the worse rings on them as I don't expect to get the rings back. > > But the labels in question that prompted this discussion were done in a > "commercial cannery", even though the jars are standard canning jars, the > cannery has to follow strict guidelines. I just wish they'd use some other > label. As it is, the labels don't really fit on the jars well. I've bought canned goods in Arkansas done in "commercial canneries" that were local, their labels came right off without a lot of trouble, soak the jar in hot water, label loosens up, then scrub the remainder of the glue off. Same with things we've bought at the local Farmer's Market here, soak the empty jar, scrape the label off. I asked and most of them just use a standard Avery label as the state requires the contents be listed and the name of the product. I sold some fig jam last year and the label had my name and telephone number, and the contents: crushed figs, lemon peel and juice, sugar. Satisfied the Louisiana requirements for home preserves that are to be sold. |
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"George Shirley" > wrote in message
... > Marilyn wrote: >> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message >> ... >>> In article >, >>> George Shirley > wrote: >>> >>>> The silver lids and bands are the 125th anniversary ones. I bought one >>>> case of Ball locally and our eldest granddaughter, the coupon queen, >>>> brought us a case of Kerr with the same lids and rings. Takes a little >>>> getting used to I guess. >>> I like them. Someone here said a couple years ago that this was going >>> to be the next change in the lids and rings < that they are the >>> 'natural' color of the ring, not coated with the gold-color stuff. The >>> Ball Elite jars have had them since they came out 2-3 years ago. This >>> is the first year I've seen them on anything but those. >>> >>> What I do not like is the bottom shape of the pint jars < they don't >>> stack neatly with or without the ring in place. Same thing with the >>> 4-oz jars. Their bottom diameter is just a shade over the inside >>> diameter of the ring; they don't stack with the ring in place. For a >>> year or two there was a Kerr label on 4-oz jars that had a fruit pattern >>> embossed and the base was just small enough to fit inside the ring below >>> it if you wanted to stack them. I never have been fond of the quilted >>> pattern. Not enough flat real estate for a label. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ >> >> I haven't bought any of the pints yet. Usually, I don't put labels on my >> jars because I don't enter them in any fairs or even give them away for >> the most part. If I do give them away, then I will put one of those >> fancy labels on them. At home, my labeling method of choice is a black >> Sharpie fine point marker Product and date go on the lid. > > That's generally what we do also. >> >> As for the color of the bands and lids, I don't really care about that >> either. The bands only get left on long enough to make sure the seal is >> there and then they get removed and washed to be used over. > > Great minds and all that, that's what we do too. When we give jars of > stuff away I put the worse rings on them as I don't expect to get the > rings back. > >> >> But the labels in question that prompted this discussion were done in a >> "commercial cannery", even though the jars are standard canning jars, the >> cannery has to follow strict guidelines. I just wish they'd use some >> other label. As it is, the labels don't really fit on the jars well. > > I've bought canned goods in Arkansas done in "commercial canneries" that > were local, their labels came right off without a lot of trouble, soak the > jar in hot water, label loosens up, then scrub the remainder of the glue > off. Same with things we've bought at the local Farmer's Market here, soak > the empty jar, scrape the label off. I asked and most of them just use a > standard Avery label as the state requires the contents be listed and the > name of the product. I sold some fig jam last year and the label had my > name and telephone number, and the contents: crushed figs, lemon peel and > juice, sugar. Satisfied the Louisiana requirements for home preserves that > are to be sold. The sticky jars are back in the garage waiting until I find my bottle of Goo-B-Gone. Being as it was Sunday today, that's my day not to deal with looking for things or doing anything time consuming. But usually it's not this hard to scrape a label off. I know they have to be labeled properly as to ingredients and date, etc. I felt like I needed a paint scraper or a razor blade but with my luck would probably have sliced myself in the process. |
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Marilyn wrote:
> "George Shirley" > wrote in message > ... >> Marilyn wrote: >>> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> In article >, >>>> George Shirley > wrote: >>>> >>>>> The silver lids and bands are the 125th anniversary ones. I bought one >>>>> case of Ball locally and our eldest granddaughter, the coupon queen, >>>>> brought us a case of Kerr with the same lids and rings. Takes a little >>>>> getting used to I guess. >>>> I like them. Someone here said a couple years ago that this was going >>>> to be the next change in the lids and rings < that they are the >>>> 'natural' color of the ring, not coated with the gold-color stuff. The >>>> Ball Elite jars have had them since they came out 2-3 years ago. This >>>> is the first year I've seen them on anything but those. >>>> >>>> What I do not like is the bottom shape of the pint jars < they don't >>>> stack neatly with or without the ring in place. Same thing with the >>>> 4-oz jars. Their bottom diameter is just a shade over the inside >>>> diameter of the ring; they don't stack with the ring in place. For a >>>> year or two there was a Kerr label on 4-oz jars that had a fruit pattern >>>> embossed and the base was just small enough to fit inside the ring below >>>> it if you wanted to stack them. I never have been fond of the quilted >>>> pattern. Not enough flat real estate for a label. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ >>> I haven't bought any of the pints yet. Usually, I don't put labels on my >>> jars because I don't enter them in any fairs or even give them away for >>> the most part. If I do give them away, then I will put one of those >>> fancy labels on them. At home, my labeling method of choice is a black >>> Sharpie fine point marker Product and date go on the lid. >> That's generally what we do also. >>> As for the color of the bands and lids, I don't really care about that >>> either. The bands only get left on long enough to make sure the seal is >>> there and then they get removed and washed to be used over. >> Great minds and all that, that's what we do too. When we give jars of >> stuff away I put the worse rings on them as I don't expect to get the >> rings back. >> >>> But the labels in question that prompted this discussion were done in a >>> "commercial cannery", even though the jars are standard canning jars, the >>> cannery has to follow strict guidelines. I just wish they'd use some >>> other label. As it is, the labels don't really fit on the jars well. >> I've bought canned goods in Arkansas done in "commercial canneries" that >> were local, their labels came right off without a lot of trouble, soak the >> jar in hot water, label loosens up, then scrub the remainder of the glue >> off. Same with things we've bought at the local Farmer's Market here, soak >> the empty jar, scrape the label off. I asked and most of them just use a >> standard Avery label as the state requires the contents be listed and the >> name of the product. I sold some fig jam last year and the label had my >> name and telephone number, and the contents: crushed figs, lemon peel and >> juice, sugar. Satisfied the Louisiana requirements for home preserves that >> are to be sold. > > > The sticky jars are back in the garage waiting until I find my bottle of > Goo-B-Gone. Being as it was Sunday today, that's my day not to deal with > looking for things or doing anything time consuming. But usually it's not > this hard to scrape a label off. I know they have to be labeled properly as > to ingredients and date, etc. I felt like I needed a paint scraper or a > razor blade but with my luck would probably have sliced myself in the > process. > > They probably went with the cheapest Chinese made labels they could buy. Makes sense for an organization to save money on expenses. I would soak them in a tub of hot water for awhile and see if that helps. I use a plastic scraper on the worse ones, helps to get down to the glue and then the Goo-Be-Gone does its job. |
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"Marilyn" > wrote: > As for the color of the bands and lids, I don't really care about that > either. The bands only get left on long enough to make sure the seal is > there and then they get removed and washed to be used over. I'm one of the ones who likes to store my stuff with rings on. No rhyme or reason other than "that's the way Mom did it." > > But the labels in question that prompted this discussion were done in a > "commercial cannery", even though the jars are standard canning jars, the > cannery has to follow strict guidelines. Good! > I just wish they'd use some other label. As it is, the labels don't > really fit on the jars well. What they do is probably more economical than anything else and it serves its intended purpose. I'm always amazed that some labels come off with comparative ease and others are just plain nasty! -- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Yes, I Can! blog - check it out And check this, too: http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=8279841&page=1 |
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you can remove that sticky stuff with Spray n wash. FWIW, kitty
On Aug 17, 12:45*am, "Marilyn" > wrote: > The sticky jars are back in the garage waiting until I find my bottle of > Goo-B-Gone. *Being as it was Sunday today, that's my day not to deal with > looking for things or doing anything time consuming. *But usually it's not > this hard to scrape a label off. *I know they have to be labeled properly as > to ingredients and date, etc. *I felt like I needed a paint scraper or a > razor blade but with my luck would probably have sliced myself in the > process. |
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:45:25 -0700, "Marilyn"
> wrote: >"George Shirley" > wrote in message m... >> Marilyn wrote: >>> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> In article >, >>>> George Shirley > wrote: >>>> >>>>> The silver lids and bands are the 125th anniversary ones. I bought one >>>>> case of Ball locally and our eldest granddaughter, the coupon queen, >>>>> brought us a case of Kerr with the same lids and rings. Takes a little >>>>> getting used to I guess. >>>> I like them. Someone here said a couple years ago that this was going >>>> to be the next change in the lids and rings < that they are the >>>> 'natural' color of the ring, not coated with the gold-color stuff. The >>>> Ball Elite jars have had them since they came out 2-3 years ago. This >>>> is the first year I've seen them on anything but those. >>>> >>>> What I do not like is the bottom shape of the pint jars < they don't >>>> stack neatly with or without the ring in place. Same thing with the >>>> 4-oz jars. Their bottom diameter is just a shade over the inside >>>> diameter of the ring; they don't stack with the ring in place. For a >>>> year or two there was a Kerr label on 4-oz jars that had a fruit pattern >>>> embossed and the base was just small enough to fit inside the ring below >>>> it if you wanted to stack them. I never have been fond of the quilted >>>> pattern. Not enough flat real estate for a label. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ >>> >>> I haven't bought any of the pints yet. Usually, I don't put labels on my >>> jars because I don't enter them in any fairs or even give them away for >>> the most part. If I do give them away, then I will put one of those >>> fancy labels on them. At home, my labeling method of choice is a black >>> Sharpie fine point marker Product and date go on the lid. We used to do the Sharpie on the lid routine but, now it's back to a little Avery # 5167 label on the jar. Once the snap lid is taken off it gets replaced with one of the white storage lids therefore no content info is left. With no info on the jar, at a bleary-eyed breakfast I'd be likely to get piri-piri sauce instead of strawberry jam on my toast ;-(. I prefer to use caffeine as my eye-opener. Ross. |
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"George Shirley" > wrote in message
... > Marilyn wrote: >> "George Shirley" > wrote in message >> ... >>> Marilyn wrote: >>>> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> In article >, >>>>> George Shirley > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The silver lids and bands are the 125th anniversary ones. I bought >>>>>> one >>>>>> case of Ball locally and our eldest granddaughter, the coupon queen, >>>>>> brought us a case of Kerr with the same lids and rings. Takes a >>>>>> little >>>>>> getting used to I guess. >>>>> I like them. Someone here said a couple years ago that this was going >>>>> to be the next change in the lids and rings < that they are the >>>>> 'natural' color of the ring, not coated with the gold-color stuff. >>>>> The >>>>> Ball Elite jars have had them since they came out 2-3 years ago. This >>>>> is the first year I've seen them on anything but those. >>>>> >>>>> What I do not like is the bottom shape of the pint jars < they don't >>>>> stack neatly with or without the ring in place. Same thing with the >>>>> 4-oz jars. Their bottom diameter is just a shade over the inside >>>>> diameter of the ring; they don't stack with the ring in place. For a >>>>> year or two there was a Kerr label on 4-oz jars that had a fruit >>>>> pattern >>>>> embossed and the base was just small enough to fit inside the ring >>>>> below >>>>> it if you wanted to stack them. I never have been fond of the quilted >>>>> pattern. Not enough flat real estate for a label. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ >>>> I haven't bought any of the pints yet. Usually, I don't put labels on >>>> my jars because I don't enter them in any fairs or even give them away >>>> for the most part. If I do give them away, then I will put one of >>>> those fancy labels on them. At home, my labeling method of choice is a >>>> black Sharpie fine point marker Product and date go on the lid. >>> That's generally what we do also. >>>> As for the color of the bands and lids, I don't really care about that >>>> either. The bands only get left on long enough to make sure the seal >>>> is there and then they get removed and washed to be used over. >>> Great minds and all that, that's what we do too. When we give jars of >>> stuff away I put the worse rings on them as I don't expect to get the >>> rings back. >>> >>>> But the labels in question that prompted this discussion were done in a >>>> "commercial cannery", even though the jars are standard canning jars, >>>> the cannery has to follow strict guidelines. I just wish they'd use >>>> some other label. As it is, the labels don't really fit on the jars >>>> well. >>> I've bought canned goods in Arkansas done in "commercial canneries" that >>> were local, their labels came right off without a lot of trouble, soak >>> the jar in hot water, label loosens up, then scrub the remainder of the >>> glue off. Same with things we've bought at the local Farmer's Market >>> here, soak the empty jar, scrape the label off. I asked and most of them >>> just use a standard Avery label as the state requires the contents be >>> listed and the name of the product. I sold some fig jam last year and >>> the label had my name and telephone number, and the contents: crushed >>> figs, lemon peel and juice, sugar. Satisfied the Louisiana requirements >>> for home preserves that are to be sold. >> >> >> The sticky jars are back in the garage waiting until I find my bottle of >> Goo-B-Gone. Being as it was Sunday today, that's my day not to deal with >> looking for things or doing anything time consuming. But usually it's >> not this hard to scrape a label off. I know they have to be labeled >> properly as to ingredients and date, etc. I felt like I needed a paint >> scraper or a razor blade but with my luck would probably have sliced >> myself in the process. > They probably went with the cheapest Chinese made labels they could buy. > Makes sense for an organization to save money on expenses. I would soak > them in a tub of hot water for awhile and see if that helps. I use a > plastic scraper on the worse ones, helps to get down to the glue and then > the Goo-Be-Gone does its job. The labels are gone, it's just that there seems to have been a reaction between the glue and the chemicals we tried to remove it with. -- -Marilyn |
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news ![]() > On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:45:25 -0700, "Marilyn" > > wrote: > >>"George Shirley" > wrote in message om... >>> Marilyn wrote: >>>> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> In article >, >>>>> George Shirley > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The silver lids and bands are the 125th anniversary ones. I bought >>>>>> one >>>>>> case of Ball locally and our eldest granddaughter, the coupon queen, >>>>>> brought us a case of Kerr with the same lids and rings. Takes a >>>>>> little >>>>>> getting used to I guess. >>>>> I like them. Someone here said a couple years ago that this was going >>>>> to be the next change in the lids and rings < that they are the >>>>> 'natural' color of the ring, not coated with the gold-color stuff. >>>>> The >>>>> Ball Elite jars have had them since they came out 2-3 years ago. This >>>>> is the first year I've seen them on anything but those. >>>>> >>>>> What I do not like is the bottom shape of the pint jars < they don't >>>>> stack neatly with or without the ring in place. Same thing with the >>>>> 4-oz jars. Their bottom diameter is just a shade over the inside >>>>> diameter of the ring; they don't stack with the ring in place. For a >>>>> year or two there was a Kerr label on 4-oz jars that had a fruit >>>>> pattern >>>>> embossed and the base was just small enough to fit inside the ring >>>>> below >>>>> it if you wanted to stack them. I never have been fond of the quilted >>>>> pattern. Not enough flat real estate for a label. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ >>>> >>>> I haven't bought any of the pints yet. Usually, I don't put labels on >>>> my >>>> jars because I don't enter them in any fairs or even give them away for >>>> the most part. If I do give them away, then I will put one of those >>>> fancy labels on them. At home, my labeling method of choice is a black >>>> Sharpie fine point marker Product and date go on the lid. > > We used to do the Sharpie on the lid routine but, now it's back to a > little Avery # 5167 label on the jar. Once the snap lid is taken off > it gets replaced with one of the white storage lids therefore no > content info is left. > With no info on the jar, at a bleary-eyed breakfast I'd be likely to > get piri-piri sauce instead of strawberry jam on my toast ;-(. > I prefer to use caffeine as my eye-opener. > > Ross. Ah, I suppose there's that. I do replace my lids with the white plastic ones or even the blue plastic ones that come on mayonnaise jars these days. Those work just as well and are free. -- -Marilyn |
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> The sticky jars are back in the garage waiting until I find my bottle of > Goo-B-Gone. Being as it was Sunday today, that's my day not to deal with > looking for things or doing anything time consuming. But usually it's not > this hard to scrape a label off. I know they have to be labeled properly as > to ingredients and date, etc. I felt like I needed a paint scraper or a > razor blade but with my luck would probably have sliced myself in the > process. > > I use turpentine to remove stubborn label goo. Also works to remove spruce tree sap from cars. It's the solvent most people forget about. Bob (just got back a couple of hours ago; pulled a trailer 2300 miles, and boy am I tired of driving) |
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"zxcvbob" > wrote in message
... > Marilyn wrote: >> The sticky jars are back in the garage waiting until I find my bottle of >> Goo-B-Gone. Being as it was Sunday today, that's my day not to deal with >> looking for things or doing anything time consuming. But usually it's >> not this hard to scrape a label off. I know they have to be labeled >> properly as to ingredients and date, etc. I felt like I needed a paint >> scraper or a razor blade but with my luck would probably have sliced >> myself in the process. > > I use turpentine to remove stubborn label goo. Also works to remove > spruce tree sap from cars. It's the solvent most people forget about. > > Bob > (just got back a couple of hours ago; pulled a trailer 2300 miles, and boy > am I tired of driving) I finally had my bottle of Goof Off (it wasn't Goo-B-Gone) and that finally got the last remaining residue off the jars. Whew. I think my husband tried turpentine. I know he used paint thinner, but I also saw him with a can of turpentine, too. Those only spread the sticky stuff all over the jars. Worst glue I've ever seen. There is still an entire case of unopened jars of salsa so when those are empty, we'll have to repeat the process to get the labels off of them. -- -Marilyn |
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"Marilyn" > wrote: > I finally had my bottle of Goof Off (it wasn't Goo-B-Gone) and that finally > got the last remaining residue off the jars. Whew. Didn't I tell you that Goof Off is the bomb? You can get a cheap buzz from it, too, if you're not careful. :-) I've never heard of Goo-B-Gone; am familiar with Goo Gone. That might have been in Mary Ellen Pinkham's line. I don't think that's in operation anymore. :-( > > I think my husband tried turpentine. I know he used paint thinner, but I > also saw him with a can of turpentine, too. Those only spread the sticky > stuff all over the jars. Worst glue I've ever seen. There is still an > entire case of unopened jars of salsa so when those are empty, we'll have to > repeat the process to get the labels off of them. -- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Yes, I Can! blog - check it out And check this, too: http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=8279841&page=1 |
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"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
... > In article >, > "Marilyn" > wrote: >> I finally had my bottle of Goof Off (it wasn't Goo-B-Gone) and that >> finally >> got the last remaining residue off the jars. Whew. > > Didn't I tell you that Goof Off is the bomb? You can get a cheap buzz > from it, too, if you're not careful. :-) I've never heard of > Goo-B-Gone; am familiar with Goo Gone. That might have been in Mary > Ellen Pinkham's line. I don't think that's in operation anymore. :-( Oh, lord, I had the windows open and the fans going and, yeah, I was getting a headache from it. I wouldn't call it a buzz, though, because it wasn't enjoyable. And a little goes a very LONG way. -- -Marilyn |
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:44:57 -0700, "Marilyn"
> wrote: >"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message ... >> In article >, >> "Marilyn" > wrote: >>> I finally had my bottle of Goof Off (it wasn't Goo-B-Gone) and that >>> finally >>> got the last remaining residue off the jars. Whew. >> >> Didn't I tell you that Goof Off is the bomb? You can get a cheap buzz >> from it, too, if you're not careful. :-) I've never heard of >> Goo-B-Gone; am familiar with Goo Gone. That might have been in Mary >> Ellen Pinkham's line. I don't think that's in operation anymore. :-( > >Oh, lord, I had the windows open and the fans going and, yeah, I was getting >a headache from it. I wouldn't call it a buzz, though, because it wasn't >enjoyable. And a little goes a very LONG way. I'm just catching the tail end of this thread but, for label residue removal I have good luck with cigarette lighter fluid. That's the kind for Zippo-type lighters not the butane type. I quit smoking almost 40 years ago but, I keep lighter fluid around for various tasks. It'll also remove permanent magic marker ink from most surfaces (not the white storage lids though 'cause the ink goes right into them). Ross. |
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news ![]() > On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:44:57 -0700, "Marilyn" > > wrote: > >>"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message ... >>> In article >, >>> "Marilyn" > wrote: >>>> I finally had my bottle of Goof Off (it wasn't Goo-B-Gone) and that >>>> finally >>>> got the last remaining residue off the jars. Whew. >>> >>> Didn't I tell you that Goof Off is the bomb? You can get a cheap buzz >>> from it, too, if you're not careful. :-) I've never heard of >>> Goo-B-Gone; am familiar with Goo Gone. That might have been in Mary >>> Ellen Pinkham's line. I don't think that's in operation anymore. :-( >> >>Oh, lord, I had the windows open and the fans going and, yeah, I was >>getting >>a headache from it. I wouldn't call it a buzz, though, because it wasn't >>enjoyable. And a little goes a very LONG way. > > I'm just catching the tail end of this thread but, for label residue > removal I have good luck with cigarette lighter fluid. That's the kind > for Zippo-type lighters not the butane type. I quit smoking almost 40 > years ago but, I keep lighter fluid around for various tasks. It'll > also remove permanent magic marker ink from most surfaces (not the > white storage lids though 'cause the ink goes right into them). > > Ross. Hey, always good to have more input on this topic. It will make it easier the next time I'm removing the jar labels. -- -Marilyn |