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Picked up about 25 lbs of Japanese persimmons yesterday. The kind that
have to be dead ripe to be eaten. They're spread out in the garage on a
table awaiting the right time. A few were already ripe and have been
pulped and frozen.

When all the pulp is ready I intend to make some persimmon jam,
persimmon cookies, and a persimmon cake to give to the fellow that gave
us the simmons. Been awhile since we've been able to get our hands on a
good sized pile of simmons so we're looking forward to what can be made
from the. Our Fuyu persimmon tree has white scale and aphids so bad that
it only has two fruit left on it. I've been spraying with dormant oil
with a natural pesticide but they keep coming back. I will report back
once we start making "stuff" from the persimmons.

George
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George Shirley wrote:
> Picked up about 25 lbs of Japanese persimmons yesterday. The kind that
> have to be dead ripe to be eaten. They're spread out in the garage on
> a table awaiting the right time. A few were already ripe and have been
> pulped and frozen.
>
> When all the pulp is ready I intend to make some persimmon jam,
> persimmon cookies, and a persimmon cake to give to the fellow that
> gave us the simmons. Been awhile since we've been able to get our
> hands on a good sized pile of simmons so we're looking forward to
> what can be made from the. Our Fuyu persimmon tree has white scale
> and aphids so bad that it only has two fruit left on it. I've been
> spraying with dormant oil with a natural pesticide but they keep
> coming back. I will report back once we start making "stuff" from the
> persimmons.


I can't wait sweetie


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George Shirley wrote:
> Picked up about 25 lbs of Japanese persimmons yesterday. The kind that
> have to be dead ripe to be eaten. They're spread out in the garage on a
> table awaiting the right time. A few were already ripe and have been
> pulped and frozen.
>
> When all the pulp is ready I intend to make some persimmon jam,
> persimmon cookies, and a persimmon cake to give to the fellow that gave
> us the simmons. Been awhile since we've been able to get our hands on a
> good sized pile of simmons so we're looking forward to what can be made
> from the. Our Fuyu persimmon tree has white scale and aphids so bad that
> it only has two fruit left on it. I've been spraying with dormant oil
> with a natural pesticide but they keep coming back. I will report back
> once we start making "stuff" from the persimmons.
>
> George



Yum!!! A sweet, ripe persimmon is heavenly.

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George Shirley wrote:
> Picked up about 25 lbs of Japanese persimmons yesterday. The kind that
> have to be dead ripe to be eaten. They're spread out in the garage on a
> table awaiting the right time. A few were already ripe and have been
> pulped and frozen.
>
> When all the pulp is ready I intend to make some persimmon jam,
> persimmon cookies, and a persimmon cake to give to the fellow that gave
> us the simmons. Been awhile since we've been able to get our hands on a
> good sized pile of simmons so we're looking forward to what can be made
> from the. Our Fuyu persimmon tree has white scale and aphids so bad that
> it only has two fruit left on it. I've been spraying with dormant oil
> with a natural pesticide but they keep coming back. I will report back
> once we start making "stuff" from the persimmons.
>
> George


So what do you do with your non-astringent persimmons if/when you have
excess? I have just planted my Fuyu - can't wait 'til it starts fruiting.

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Ginny wrote:
> George Shirley wrote:
>> Picked up about 25 lbs of Japanese persimmons yesterday. The kind that
>> have to be dead ripe to be eaten. They're spread out in the garage on
>> a table awaiting the right time. A few were already ripe and have been
>> pulped and frozen.
>>
>> When all the pulp is ready I intend to make some persimmon jam,
>> persimmon cookies, and a persimmon cake to give to the fellow that
>> gave us the simmons. Been awhile since we've been able to get our
>> hands on a good sized pile of simmons so we're looking forward to what
>> can be made from the. Our Fuyu persimmon tree has white scale and
>> aphids so bad that it only has two fruit left on it. I've been
>> spraying with dormant oil with a natural pesticide but they keep
>> coming back. I will report back once we start making "stuff" from the
>> persimmons.
>>
>> George

>
> So what do you do with your non-astringent persimmons if/when you have
> excess? I have just planted my Fuyu - can't wait 'til it starts fruiting.
>

Persimmon jam, persimmon pies, persimmon cakes, eat them out of hand. My
tree is a Fuyu also but it is slowly being destroyed by scale insects
that I can't seem to control. These I got from a friend are the heart
shaped ones that have to be completely dead ripe before eating or using
as they are astringent.

I have successfully removed the pulp and froze it in 2 cup containers.
My wife likes to just freeze the whole fruit, partially thaw them and
then eat them with a spoon like sherbet. Do a google on persimmon
recipes, there's a million of them out there.

George


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George Shirley wrote:
> Persimmon jam, persimmon pies, persimmon cakes, eat them out of hand. My
> tree is a Fuyu also but it is slowly being destroyed by scale insects
> that I can't seem to control. These I got from a friend are the heart
> shaped ones that have to be completely dead ripe before eating or using
> as they are astringent.
> George


My Fuyu is non-astringent so maybe same name, different plant. Be
interesting to see what the fruit is like.

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Ginny wrote:
> George Shirley wrote:
>> Persimmon jam, persimmon pies, persimmon cakes, eat them out of hand.
>> My tree is a Fuyu also but it is slowly being destroyed by scale
>> insects that I can't seem to control. These I got from a friend are
>> the heart shaped ones that have to be completely dead ripe before
>> eating or using as they are astringent.
>> George

>
> My Fuyu is non-astringent so maybe same name, different plant. Be
> interesting to see what the fruit is like.
>

The Fuyu is the good one, I've eaten them like an apple straight from
the tree. Dee-licious.
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George Shirley wrote:
> Ginny wrote:
>> George Shirley wrote:
>>> Persimmon jam, persimmon pies, persimmon cakes, eat them out of hand.
>>> My tree is a Fuyu also but it is slowly being destroyed by scale
>>> insects that I can't seem to control. These I got from a friend are
>>> the heart shaped ones that have to be completely dead ripe before
>>> eating or using as they are astringent.
>>> George

>>
>> My Fuyu is non-astringent so maybe same name, different plant. Be
>> interesting to see what the fruit is like.
>>

> The Fuyu is the good one, I've eaten them like an apple straight from
> the tree. Dee-licious.

Oh good. That is what I've been after. I am not a lover of the soft
jelly fruit variety although others rave over them. I just like my fruit
crisp and crunchy, something you can bite into. My squish level is mango
and banana but they are improve with drying. I wonder if astringent
persimmon would dry once fully ripe?

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Oh pshaw, on Tue 16 Oct 2007 12:34:07p, George Shirley meant to say...

> Picked up about 25 lbs of Japanese persimmons yesterday. The kind that
> have to be dead ripe to be eaten. They're spread out in the garage on a
> table awaiting the right time. A few were already ripe and have been
> pulped and frozen.
>
> When all the pulp is ready I intend to make some persimmon jam,
> persimmon cookies, and a persimmon cake to give to the fellow that gave
> us the simmons. Been awhile since we've been able to get our hands on a
> good sized pile of simmons so we're looking forward to what can be made
> from the. Our Fuyu persimmon tree has white scale and aphids so bad that
> it only has two fruit left on it. I've been spraying with dormant oil
> with a natural pesticide but they keep coming back. I will report back
> once we start making "stuff" from the persimmons.
>
> George


George, here is a recipe we recently tried and loved. It was posted to rfc


* Exported from MasterCook *

Persimmon sorbet with spices (Sorbet de kakis aux épices)

Recipe By :
Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories :

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
3 dead ripe Japanese persimmons (to make 3 c. puree)
-- (3 to 4)
3/4 c. sugar
1 c. water
1 piece cinnamon bark -- (3")
3 cloves
3 allspice berries
1 head star anise
A 1" piece of fresh ginger root -- peeled and cut
into 1/8" slices
1 piece fresh lime peel -- (5")
1/4 c. fresh lime juice
1 T. dark rum

Put the sugar and water in a small saucepan. Drop in the spices, ginger,
and lime peel, bring to a boil, and boil gently 5 minutes. Cool and strain
into a bowl.

Cut the Japanese persimmons in half crosswise and scoop the fruit into the
bowl of your food processor with a tablespoon. Squeeze the empty shell to
extract remaining juice. Measure out three cups and bring to a gentle boil
in a saucepan. Cook 5 minutes. Add to the syrup. Chill thoroughly.

Just before freezing, add the lime juice and rum. Freeze in your ice cream
freezer according to manufacturer's directions.

S(Internet Address):
"http://www.frenchgardening.com/cuisine.html?pid=318283661829920"
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> Oh pshaw, on Tue 16 Oct 2007 12:34:07p, George Shirley meant to say...
>
>> Picked up about 25 lbs of Japanese persimmons yesterday. The kind that
>> have to be dead ripe to be eaten. They're spread out in the garage on a
>> table awaiting the right time. A few were already ripe and have been
>> pulped and frozen.
>>
>> When all the pulp is ready I intend to make some persimmon jam,
>> persimmon cookies, and a persimmon cake to give to the fellow that gave
>> us the simmons. Been awhile since we've been able to get our hands on a
>> good sized pile of simmons so we're looking forward to what can be made
>> from the. Our Fuyu persimmon tree has white scale and aphids so bad that
>> it only has two fruit left on it. I've been spraying with dormant oil
>> with a natural pesticide but they keep coming back. I will report back
>> once we start making "stuff" from the persimmons.
>>
>> George

>
> George, here is a recipe we recently tried and loved. It was posted to rfc
>
>
> * Exported from MasterCook *
>
> Persimmon sorbet with spices (Sorbet de kakis aux épices)
>
> Recipe By :
> Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00
> Categories :
>
> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
> -------- ------------ --------------------------------
> 3 dead ripe Japanese persimmons (to make 3 c. puree)
> -- (3 to 4)
> 3/4 c. sugar
> 1 c. water
> 1 piece cinnamon bark -- (3")
> 3 cloves
> 3 allspice berries
> 1 head star anise
> A 1" piece of fresh ginger root -- peeled and cut
> into 1/8" slices
> 1 piece fresh lime peel -- (5")
> 1/4 c. fresh lime juice
> 1 T. dark rum
>
> Put the sugar and water in a small saucepan. Drop in the spices, ginger,
> and lime peel, bring to a boil, and boil gently 5 minutes. Cool and strain
> into a bowl.
>
> Cut the Japanese persimmons in half crosswise and scoop the fruit into the
> bowl of your food processor with a tablespoon. Squeeze the empty shell to
> extract remaining juice. Measure out three cups and bring to a gentle boil
> in a saucepan. Cook 5 minutes. Add to the syrup. Chill thoroughly.
>
> Just before freezing, add the lime juice and rum. Freeze in your ice cream
> freezer according to manufacturer's directions.
>
> S(Internet Address):
> "http://www.frenchgardening.com/cuisine.html?pid=318283661829920"
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Thanks Wayne, someone else copied and sent it yesterday from rfc.


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Oh pshaw, on Wed 17 Oct 2007 05:16:43a, George Shirley meant to say...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> Oh pshaw, on Tue 16 Oct 2007 12:34:07p, George Shirley meant to say...
>>
>>> Picked up about 25 lbs of Japanese persimmons yesterday. The kind that
>>> have to be dead ripe to be eaten. They're spread out in the garage on
>>> a table awaiting the right time. A few were already ripe and have been
>>> pulped and frozen.
>>>
>>> When all the pulp is ready I intend to make some persimmon jam,
>>> persimmon cookies, and a persimmon cake to give to the fellow that
>>> gave us the simmons. Been awhile since we've been able to get our
>>> hands on a good sized pile of simmons so we're looking forward to what
>>> can be made from the. Our Fuyu persimmon tree has white scale and
>>> aphids so bad that it only has two fruit left on it. I've been
>>> spraying with dormant oil with a natural pesticide but they keep
>>> coming back. I will report back once we start making "stuff" from the
>>> persimmons.
>>>
>>> George

>>
>> George, here is a recipe we recently tried and loved. It was posted to
>> rfc
>>
>>
>> * Exported from MasterCook *
>>
>> Persimmon sorbet with spices (Sorbet de kakis aux épices)
>>
>> Recipe By :
>> Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00
>> Categories :
>>
>> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
>> -------- ------------ --------------------------------
>> 3 dead ripe Japanese persimmons (to make 3 c.
>> puree)
>> -- (3 to 4)
>> 3/4 c. sugar
>> 1 c. water
>> 1 piece cinnamon bark -- (3")
>> 3 cloves
>> 3 allspice berries
>> 1 head star anise
>> A 1" piece of fresh ginger root -- peeled and
>> cut
>> into 1/8" slices
>> 1 piece fresh lime peel -- (5")
>> 1/4 c. fresh lime juice
>> 1 T. dark rum
>>
>> Put the sugar and water in a small saucepan. Drop in the spices,
>> ginger, and lime peel, bring to a boil, and boil gently 5 minutes. Cool
>> and strain into a bowl.
>>
>> Cut the Japanese persimmons in half crosswise and scoop the fruit into
>> the bowl of your food processor with a tablespoon. Squeeze the empty
>> shell to extract remaining juice. Measure out three cups and bring to a
>> gentle boil in a saucepan. Cook 5 minutes. Add to the syrup. Chill
>> thoroughly.
>>
>> Just before freezing, add the lime juice and rum. Freeze in your ice
>> cream freezer according to manufacturer's directions.
>>
>> S(Internet Address):
>> "http://www.frenchgardening.com/cuisine.html?pid=318283661829920"
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> -

> Thanks Wayne, someone else copied and sent it yesterday from rfc.
>


You're welcome, George. Keep it on file. It's a winner!

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> Picked up about 25 lbs of Japanese persimmons yesterday. The kind that
> have to be dead ripe to be eaten. They're spread out in the garage on a
> table awaiting the right time. A few were already ripe and have been
> pulped and frozen.
>
> When all the pulp is ready I intend to make some persimmon jam, persimmon
> cookies, and a persimmon cake to give to the fellow that gave us the
> simmons. Been awhile since we've been able to get our hands on a good
> sized pile of simmons so we're looking forward to what can be made from
> the. Our Fuyu persimmon tree has white scale and aphids so bad that it
> only has two fruit left on it. I've been spraying with dormant oil with a
> natural pesticide but they keep coming back. I will report back once we
> start making "stuff" from the persimmons.
>
> George



Hi, George...I have never had a Persimmon myself..But only yesterday on a
Newsgroup (Not a cooking group) A gent from the USA (South) happened to post
about it...I was shopping today and as yet I haven't seen a persimmon in the
shops...I will post the text of the message here...It is NOT my own, but
'Richards'....You may find some interest in the post ..

"How many yall ever ate persimmon pudding? That's a gift of love and a
North Carolina fall favorite.

Hardly a girl born later than 1940 knows how to make it. It's a simple
dying art.

The problem is people to sorry to pick up the persimmons.

Here is the best instructions of them all.

One part milk,

One part flour,

One part persimmon puree

One part sugar......

A little vanilla.

Stir into a batter, pour in a pan and bake forty five minutes at 350
degrees.

Lordy, a gift to the gods a simple man can enjoy.


I offer this only out of interest to see if any have ideas on the type of
Pudding..

Bigbazza.

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> "George Shirley" > wrote in message
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>> Picked up about 25 lbs of Japanese persimmons yesterday. The kind that
>> have to be dead ripe to be eaten. They're spread out in the garage on
>> a table awaiting the right time. A few were already ripe and have been
>> pulped and frozen.
>>
>> When all the pulp is ready I intend to make some persimmon jam,
>> persimmon cookies, and a persimmon cake to give to the fellow that
>> gave us the simmons. Been awhile since we've been able to get our
>> hands on a good sized pile of simmons so we're looking forward to what
>> can be made from the. Our Fuyu persimmon tree has white scale and
>> aphids so bad that it only has two fruit left on it. I've been
>> spraying with dormant oil with a natural pesticide but they keep
>> coming back. I will report back once we start making "stuff" from the
>> persimmons.
>>
>> George

>
>
> Hi, George...I have never had a Persimmon myself..But only yesterday on
> a Newsgroup (Not a cooking group) A gent from the USA (South) happened
> to post about it...I was shopping today and as yet I haven't seen a
> persimmon in the shops...I will post the text of the message here...It
> is NOT my own, but 'Richards'....You may find some interest in the post ..
>
> "How many yall ever ate persimmon pudding? That's a gift of love and a
> North Carolina fall favorite.
>
> Hardly a girl born later than 1940 knows how to make it. It's a simple
> dying art.
>
> The problem is people to sorry to pick up the persimmons.
>
> Here is the best instructions of them all.
>
> One part milk,
>
> One part flour,
>
> One part persimmon puree
>
> One part sugar......
>
> A little vanilla.
>
> Stir into a batter, pour in a pan and bake forty five minutes at 350
> degrees.
>
> Lordy, a gift to the gods a simple man can enjoy.
>
>
> I offer this only out of interest to see if any have ideas on the type
> of Pudding..
>
> Bigbazza.
>

There are many recipes for persimmon pudding on the internet. I once
found about forty of them using Google. Haven't tried any of them yet
but may try one this year since we have so many of the persimmons. Today
our friend offered us another two buckets full if we want them. Waiting
for wife to get home from work to see if she's interested.

Thanks for the recipe though, it is much simpler than most.

George
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George Shirley wrote:
> Picked up about 25 lbs of Japanese persimmons yesterday. The kind that
> have to be dead ripe to be eaten. They're spread out in the garage on a
> table awaiting the right time. A few were already ripe and have been
> pulped and frozen.
>
> When all the pulp is ready I intend to make some persimmon jam,
> persimmon cookies, and a persimmon cake to give to the fellow that gave
> us the simmons.


OBRFP: How about the English steamed persimmon pudding? That'll keep
until the holidays (if I remember you put parchment disks soaked in
brandy or rum on it). Then you just re-steam it.

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