between a KitchenAid Mixer and a nice food processor, which would you choose
and why?

A major use for either item will be for pizza dough.

Thanks for your recommendations.

laurie

laurie, after taking an infinite amount of time, finally, on 15 Aug
2006, typed out:

> between a KitchenAid Mixer and a nice food processor, which would you
> choose and why?
>
> A major use for either item will be for pizza dough.
>
> Thanks for your recommendations.
>
> laurie


laurie,

The kitchenaaid so the flour doesn't get overworked like it would in a
food processor.

Pizza dough asside, there's no reason not to have both!

Imho,

Andy

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:19:07 +0000, laurie wrote:

> between a KitchenAid Mixer and a nice food processor, which would you choose
> and why?
>
> A major use for either item will be for pizza dough.
>
> Thanks for your recommendations.
>
> laurie

The dough hook on the mixer would be my preference for bread or pizza
dough. I think it produces a better product in terms of texture.

Oh pshaw, on Tue 15 Aug 2006 06:19:07a, laurie meant to say...

> between a KitchenAid Mixer and a nice food processor, which would you
> choose and why?
>
> A major use for either item will be for pizza dough.
>
> Thanks for your recommendations.
>
> laurie

Well, I happen to have both, and I find that I almost always use the food
processor for pizza dough.

--
Wayne Boatwright
__________________________________________________

It's Ensign Flintstone, Jim... He's Fred!

"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>> A major use for either item will be for pizza dough.
>>
>> Thanks for your recommendations.
>>
>> laurie
>
>
> laurie,
>
> The kitchenaaid so the flour doesn't get overworked like it would in a
> food processor.
>
> Pizza dough asside, there's no reason not to have both!
>
> Imho,
>
> Andy

I agree, but I only have enough $$$$ for one right now!!!

laurie

"Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
28.19...
>>
>> A major use for either item will be for pizza dough.
>>
>> Thanks for your recommendations.
>>
>> laurie
>
> Well, I happen to have both, and I find that I almost always use the food
> processor for pizza dough.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright

What about for other things in general, which one do you find that you use
more often?

laurie


> __________________________________________________
>
> It's Ensign Flintstone, Jim... He's Fred!
>

Oh pshaw, on Tue 15 Aug 2006 06:50:47a, laurie meant to say...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
> 28.19...
>>>
>>> A major use for either item will be for pizza dough.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your recommendations.
>>>
>>> laurie
>>
>> Well, I happen to have both, and I find that I almost always use the
>> food processor for pizza dough.
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
> What about for other things in general, which one do you find that you
> use more often?
>
> laurie

If I could only buy one, I'd buy the KA stand mixer first. While it
doesn't chop and slice like the food processor, it's superior for making
batters, larger quantities and heavier bread doughs, whipping cream, etc.
Bottom line, though, it really depends on your needs and what you do most
often.

One suggestion... I'd never skimp and buy a lesser mixer, but you can get
a pretty decent food processor for less money, so perhaps you could afford
to have both sooner than you think. I have 2 food processors, a Cuisinart
14-cup model, and a *much* less expensive Hamilton Beach 14-cup model.
While the Hamilton Beach isn't as heavy a machine, I have yet to find
something it failed to do.

--
Wayne Boatwright
__________________________________________________

Protect your right to ARM BEARS!!!

laurie A cup wrote:
> between a KitchenAid Mixer and a nice food processor, which would you choose
> and why?
>
> A major use for either item will be for pizza dough.
>
> Thanks for your recommendations.

Why, are you physically handicapped...?

To make up pizza dough (or any yeast dough) for home use your HANDS are
the best investment, and they're free, and require no counter space, no
electric, and clean up is a breeze.

Did yoose gals know that kneading yeast doughs by hand is one of the
best bosom enhancing exercises there is... ten minutes a day of lift n'
seperate and you can throw away your wonder bra.

Sheldon Pecs

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> >
> To make up pizza dough (or any yeast dough) for home use your HANDS are
> the best investment, and they're free, and require no counter space, no
> electric, and clean up is a breeze.
>
> Did yoose gals know that kneading yeast doughs by hand is one of the
> best bosom enhancing exercises there is... ten minutes a day of lift n'
> seperate and you can throw away your wonder bra.
>
> Sheldon Pecs

2 things.

I have been making pizza with my HANDS for many years now. It works just
fine. I want to invest in a mixer or a food processor for a variety of
other reasons, and I sure as hell am not going to continue mixing with my
hands if I don't need to. I have used my mother's 30 year old Cuisinart as
well and it was much, much easier.

As for the bosom enhancing properties, my D's don't need them, but thanks
for your concern.

laurie


>

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:31:16 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:

>The kitchenaaid so the flour doesn't get overworked like it would in a
>food processor.
>
>Pizza dough asside, there's no reason not to have both!
>
>Imho,
>
>Andy

There is a method to not overworking the pizza dough, described in
Peter Reinhardt's book on pizza, American Pie. He likes to use a
food processor for the Neopolitan style crust, because it is so moist.

That being said, I have to have both, KitchenAid and a food
processor....

Christine

"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:31:16 -0500, Andy <q> wrote:
>
>>The kitchenaaid so the flour doesn't get overworked like it would in a
>>food processor.
>>
>>Pizza dough asside, there's no reason not to have both!
>>
>>Imho,
>>
>>Andy
>
> There is a method to not overworking the pizza dough, described in
> Peter Reinhardt's book on pizza, American Pie. He likes to use a
> food processor for the Neopolitan style crust, because it is so moist.
>
> That being said, I have to have both, KitchenAid and a food
> processor....
>
> Christine

I have that book, he has great suggestions in it!

But if you HAD to choose, if you're house were burning down and you could
only take one with you, which one would you pick???? Which do you use more
often?

laurie

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:04:28 GMT, "laurie" >
wrote:

>But if you HAD to choose, if you're house were burning down and you could
>only take one with you, which one would you pick???? Which do you use more
>often?
>
>laurie

Hmm...probably the food processor...unless I had a ton of attachments
for the KitchenAid.

For me, it really isn't an either or situation, and I will tell you
why. I have attachments for the kitchenaid, that will grind meat,
another one that is an ice cream maker. There are sausage stuffing
attachments for the kitchenaid too...as well as electric pasta makers.
All those combine to make the KitchenAid a multipurpose tool. Yes,
they cost money too...

The food processor is handy for me, in that I use it to mix a lot of
things, as well as chop, and slice. I don't have attachments for the
kitchenaid that do this, as well.. I make up various doughs in the
food processor, such as a rich crumbly dough that is used to make my
Parmesan balls. And, if you get a heavy duty food processor, it can
do bread dough and pizza dough very well..

It is up to you to decide how your cooking reflects what you need. If
pizza dough is a consideration, then read American Pie, and see if the
food processor will suffice for you. I think most of us are saying
it is based on your needs.. not which one is one we would grab if the
house were on fire. Our needs are different than yours.

Christine

"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:04:28 GMT, "laurie" >
> wrote:
>>
> Hmm...probably the food processor...unless I had a ton of attachments
> for the KitchenAid.
>
> It is up to you to decide how your cooking reflects what you need. If
> pizza dough is a consideration, then read American Pie, and see if the
> food processor will suffice for you. I think most of us are saying
> it is based on your needs.. not which one is one we would grab if the
> house were on fire. Our needs are different than yours.
>
> Christine

I think I will probably use a food processor more, but I have heard such
great things about the KitchenAid, I will have mixer-envy if I don't get
that.

It's definitely time for a re-read of "American Pie", it's been since last
fall and I've forgotten some of his tips.

Perhaps I'll take trip to Macy's today and see what I come home with.
Thanks everyone!

laurie

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:16:21 GMT, "laurie" >
wrote:


>I think I will probably use a food processor more, but I have heard such
>great things about the KitchenAid, I will have mixer-envy if I don't get
>that.
>
>It's definitely time for a re-read of "American Pie", it's been since last
>fall and I've forgotten some of his tips.

If you get a food processor, and want to do pizza with it..get the
heaviest duty one that you can afford. KitchenAid makes some good
ones, as well as Cuisinart.

Another thing...you might consider a food processor, and a handheld
KitchenAid mixer... With some of those models, you can also get a
dough hook. And they can handle some heavier doughs, at least the
higher end models.

I don't know where you are located, but if you live in a town that has
a kitchenwares store, such as Sur La Table, go and talk to them about
it.

Christine

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:16:21 GMT, "laurie" >
wrote:

>I think I will probably use a food processor more, but I have heard such
>great things about the KitchenAid, I will have mixer-envy if I don't get
>that.

I understand. However, neither appliance does everything, and it
depends again, on what you would use it for the most.

Christine

"The Ranger" > wrote in message
...
> laurie > wrote in message
> > For me it would be the 12-cup Cuisinart. I use it with every meal, major
> and minor. Clean-up is easy, food comes out uniform, I don't hurt after
> unnecessary repetitive motions. For SWMBO, she'd grab the 350 watt,
> 6-cup KitchenAid mixer. As she's fond of saying, "It's my kitchen mule."
>
> The Ranger

Kitchen Mule. I like that. Ask your wife if I can borrow her saying, for
whichever mule I come home with today!

laurie


>
>

laurie > wrote in message
news:0olEg.3010$df.2902@trndny06...
[snip]
> > That being said, I have to have both, KitchenAid and
> > a food processor....
> >
[snip]
> But if you HAD to choose, if you're house were burning
> down and you could only take one with you, which one
> would you pick???? Which do you use more often?

For me it would be the 12-cup Cuisinart. I use it with every meal, major
and minor. Clean-up is easy, food comes out uniform, I don't hurt after
unnecessary repetitive motions. For SWMBO, she'd grab the 350 watt,
6-cup KitchenAid mixer. As she's fond of saying, "It's my kitchen mule."

The Ranger

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:19:07 GMT, "laurie" >
wrote:

>between a KitchenAid Mixer and a nice food processor, which would you choose
>and why?
>
>A major use for either item will be for pizza dough.
>
>Thanks for your recommendations.

My KA is out on the counter, my knives are on the counter, my
Cuisinart is in a cupboard. That about says it.

TammyM

laurie wrote:
>
> between a KitchenAid Mixer and a nice food processor, which would you choose
> and why?
>
> A major use for either item will be for pizza dough.
>
> Thanks for your recommendations.
>
> laurie

You couldn't pay me to take a KA mixer. I hate the
things. Sure they have powerful motors but you can't
get at the stuff in the bowl to scrape the sides or
add ingredients. I've never seen such poor design.

Many years ago my aunt had a Hamilton Beach stand mixer
which was perfect. The disc on which the bowls sat was
connected to a lever. You could move the bowl in and
out so that, when using the large bowl, the beaters would
move from the center to the outer edge of the bowl. The
movable disc was really meant to be moved to accommodate
both the small bowl and the large bowl, but it had the
unintended (I think) advantage that you had more coverage
in the big bowl by moving it in and out. Also, the
motor housing did not stick out over the entire workbowl
area so you could easily stick your rubber scraper into
the bowl to scrape down the sides. And you had plenty
of space to add ingredients without the motor housing
in the way.

Alas, they no longer make mixers like that. I bought
a newer Ham. Beach after hers died and they had changed
the design of the disk. Instead of it being movable by a
lever it now had 2 holes for placement depending on which
bowl you wanted to use and it was fixed in that position
the whole time you were using it. What were they thinking?
Also, the mixer itself was more cheaply made with a plastic
instead of a metal housing and it was not as powerful.

Now, the original one my aunt had was not as powerful
as a KA but if someone had taken the design of that mixer
and ramped it up powerwise and added dough hooks and such
we would have a really awesome mixer.

As to the original question there is no way to choose between
a mixer and a food processor. They are 2 totally different
beasts. You have to have both!! There are very few things
you can do equally well in both.

And I would use neither for pizza dough. But I suppose if
you were doing it commercially, i.e. making lots of dough
every day I'd say you'd have to go with the mixer. I don't
see how you could make pizza dough in a food processor.

Kate
--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

In article . com>,
"Sheldon" > wrote:

> laurie A cup wrote:
> > between a KitchenAid Mixer and a nice food processor, which would you choose
> > and why?
> >
> > A major use for either item will be for pizza dough.
> >
> > Thanks for your recommendations.
>
> Why, are you physically handicapped...?
>
> To make up pizza dough (or any yeast dough) for home use your HANDS are
> the best investment, and they're free, and require no counter space, no
> electric, and clean up is a breeze.
>
> Did yoose gals know that kneading yeast doughs by hand is one of the
> best bosom enhancing exercises there is... ten minutes a day of lift n'
> seperate and you can throw away your wonder bra.
>
> Sheldon Pecs

He's actually right about that... ;-)

We knew a couple many, many years ago from Sicily that had their own
Italian Restaurant in Los Angeles. Leo and Maria Scarcelli. They owned
"Leo's Italian Restaurant".

Maria kneaded the pizza dough by hand and swore by that very thing.

And yes, irrc, she had a very firm bosom and she was in her 50's.

We lost touch with them when I was about 16 when they moved back to
Italy.....

My mom had a kitchen aid and still kneaded bread dough by hand. She felt
that it did a better job.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

laurie wrote:
> between a KitchenAid Mixer and a nice food processor, which would you choose
> and why?
>
> A major use for either item will be for pizza dough.
>
> Thanks for your recommendations.
>
> laurie

KA, no question. I can't imagine doing dough in a FP, although I guess
people do it. To me, FPs cut up and grind and slice and shred. A KA
with a dough hook and at least 350 W will do it better. If you have
other requirements for it, buy the attachments.

N.

On 2006-08-15, The Ranger > wrote:
>
> For me it would be the 12-cup Cuisinart. I use it with every meal, major
> and minor.

What? ...you eat all your meals thru a straw?

nb

Kate Connally wrote:
> laurie wrote:
> >
> > between a KitchenAid Mixer and a nice food processor, which would you choose
> > and why?
> >
> > A major use for either item will be for pizza dough.
> >
> > Thanks for your recommendations.
> >
> > laurie
>
> You couldn't pay me to take a KA mixer. I hate the
> things. Sure they have powerful motors but you can't
> get at the stuff in the bowl to scrape the sides or
> add ingredients. I've never seen such poor design.
>
> Many years ago my aunt had a Hamilton Beach stand mixer
> which was perfect. The disc on which the bowls sat was
> connected to a lever. You could move the bowl in and
> out so that, when using the large bowl, the beaters would
> move from the center to the outer edge of the bowl. The
> movable disc was really meant to be moved to accommodate
> both the small bowl and the large bowl, but it had the
> unintended (I think) advantage that you had more coverage
> in the big bowl by moving it in and out. Also, the
> motor housing did not stick out over the entire workbowl
> area so you could easily stick your rubber scraper into
> the bowl to scrape down the sides. And you had plenty
> of space to add ingredients without the motor housing
> in the way.

The newer models have cured that dimple in the bottom problem. Just
FYI. I love my KA, but it took me a while to get used to it. I, too,
liked the old "move the bowl in and out" rotating tray at the bottom of
the mixer stand.

N.

KitchenAid Mixer... have had one for 17 years. Just recently got a Food
Processor, so obviously it wasn't as necessary. Use mixer a lot, use FP
occasionally.

Lynne

"laurie" > wrote in message
news:fRjEg.3006$df.276@trndny06...
> between a KitchenAid Mixer and a nice food processor, which would you
> choose and why?
>
> A major use for either item will be for pizza dough.
>
> Thanks for your recommendations.
>
> laurie
>
>
>

"laurie" > wrote in message
news:fRjEg.3006$df.276@trndny06...
> between a KitchenAid Mixer and a nice food processor, which would you
> choose and why?
>
> A major use for either item will be for pizza dough.
>
> Thanks for your recommendations.
>
> laurie

I'd choose my KitchenAid. I have both and after thinking about what I use
each machine for I'd give up the food processor first. They both make bread
dough fine but the food processor doesn't make whipped things as well and it
wouldn't make chocolate chip cookies very well. I could go back to doing by
hand the things I use the food processor for easier than the things I use
the mixer for.

Ms P

notbob > wrote in message
. ..
> On 2006-08-15, The Ranger > wrote:

> > For me it would be the 12-cup Cuisinart. I use it with
> > every meal, major and minor.
> >
> What? ...you eat all your meals thru a straw?
>
That's a common misconception (specifically espoused by those that can't
use the machine properly.)

The Ranger

On 2006-08-15, The Ranger > wrote:

> That's a common misconception (specifically espoused by those that can't
> use the machine properly.)

That must be me. I use mine about once a year, for what I don't
recall. Between my knives and my immersion blender, I can't imagine
what it's good for. No, wait ...I did use it to great success to
chop some meat. My garage sale meat grinder just doesn't have the
umph, so I did the Alton Brown partially frozen meat method for some
chuck/sirloin burgers. Worked surprisingly well. Oh, and I can't
forget my asparagus butter sauce for salmon. OK, twice a year.

nb

laurie wrote:

> between a KitchenAid Mixer and a nice food processor, which would you choose
> and why?
>
> A major use for either item will be for pizza dough.
>
> Thanks for your recommendations.

I use my KitchenAid mixer at least once a week. I haven't used my food processor
in at least 6 months. The last 3 or 4 times I used it was just to make bread
crumbs out out bits and pieces of stale bread lying around. I could just buy the
crumbs once in a while, or pound them with a hammer.

notbob > wrote in message
. ..
> On 2006-08-15, The Ranger > wrote:
>
> > That's a common misconception (specifically espoused by
> > those that can't use the machine properly.)
>
> That must be me. I use mine about once a year, for what I
> don't recall. [..]

"And that is why you fail... <sigh>"

HA!!

Tell me, ya daggum whelp, I need t' sip my steak through a straw...
Alrigh. Whe'd y'all put m'teeff.

The Ranger

laurie wrote:
>
> between a KitchenAid Mixer and a nice food processor, which would you choose
> and why?
>
> A major use for either item will be for pizza dough.
>
> Thanks for your recommendations.
>
> laurie

Certainly the mixer. More versatile (with a few attachments) and capable
than the food processor. The two items aren't even in the same league.
The mixer is expensive, long lasting and highly functional. A food
processor is relatively cheap, relatively short lived and often rather
tedious to use.

I'm not sure I even know what a "nice" food processor is. I've not seen
anything that an expensive (consumer) food processor can do that a cheap
one can't do equally well aside from looking good in a set dressed show
kitchen.

Pete C.

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:08:21 -0500, notbob > wrote:

>On 2006-08-15, The Ranger > wrote:
>
>> That's a common misconception (specifically espoused by those that can't
>> use the machine properly.)

Okay, this thread makes me think of all the stuff for which a food
processor can be used.

I use mine for slicing a lot of things. I guess I get bored quite a
bit by tedious slicing, especially really thin slices, such as for a
potato gratin, or for cabbage.

I use it for grating, especially when the amounts are larger.

For making bread crumbs out of leftover/stale bread. I hate paying
supermarket prices for bread crumbs, and this is so easy.

For pureeing...especially for things like the salmon mousse from The
Silver Palate.

For making some doughs. I make some really shortbread type doughs in
this...plus the dough for my Parmesan balls. And it is really good
for making the wetter doughs such as for ciabatta...or pizza dough.

There is a trick which I learned from Peter Reinhardt, about using it
for pizza dough: use only the pulse switch in the beginng and use it
only til the ingredients are hydrated and form a ball. Then let the
dough rest 5-20 minutes,which allows the flour to absorb the water
fully. When you resume mixing, use the on switch for about an
additional 45-60 seconds. He does say, that if the dough amounts are
too large for an ordinary home food processor, you must do it in two
batches, as the ordinary home processor can't handle the extra load.

I also use the food processor, especially the smaller insert bowl (if
you have a kitchenaid) for chopping garlic. I also have a small
mini-prep machine which is good for this...

These are just some of the uses, from off the top of my head....

What about the rest of you?

Christine

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:42:39 GMT, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>I'm not sure I even know what a "nice" food processor is. I've not seen
>anything that an expensive (consumer) food processor can do that a cheap
>one can't do equally well aside from looking good in a set dressed show
>kitchen.

A top of the line heavy duty food processor can handle heavy doughs,
for one thing.

I got the KitchenAid Pro-Line food processor last year, and it is
marvelous. It is the one you see being used on Iron Chef America. It
has a 1000 watt motor..so it can handle almost anything. And big
bowls...

Christine

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> Oh pshaw, on Tue 15 Aug 2006 06:50:47a, laurie meant to say...
>
> >
> > "Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
> > 28.19...
> >>>
> >>> A major use for either item will be for pizza dough.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your recommendations.
> >>>
> >>> laurie
> >>
> >> Well, I happen to have both, and I find that I almost always use the
> >> food processor for pizza dough.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Wayne Boatwright
> >
> > What about for other things in general, which one do you find that you
> > use more often?
> >
> > laurie
>
> If I could only buy one, I'd buy the KA stand mixer first. While it
> doesn't chop and slice like the food processor, it's superior for making
> batters, larger quantities and heavier bread doughs, whipping cream, etc.
> Bottom line, though, it really depends on your needs and what you do most
> often.
>
> One suggestion... I'd never skimp and buy a lesser mixer, but you can get
> a pretty decent food processor for less money, so perhaps you could afford
> to have both sooner than you think. I have 2 food processors, a Cuisinart
> 14-cup model, and a *much* less expensive Hamilton Beach 14-cup model.
> While the Hamilton Beach isn't as heavy a machine, I have yet to find
> something it failed to do.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright
> __________________________________________________
>
> Protect your right to ARM BEARS!!!

The KA mixer does not directly chop / slice like a food processor,
however it does with a pretty inexpensive attachment and that attachment
generally seems easier to use and clean than a food processor. It also
allows continuous processing of just about any size batch as opposed to
limiting you to batches that fit the food processor bowl.

Then there is the grinder / sausage stuffer / pasta extruder attachment
which adds several more significant capabilities in another fairly
inexpensive attachment.

You're also correct about the food processors. Most of the cheap ones
perform just as well as the expensive models, but just don't look as
good in the set dressed show kitchens. If you only want to cook with it
get the cheap one and save the money for other useful items.

Pete C.

"laurie" > wrote in message
news:0olEg.3010$df.2902@trndny06...
> But if you HAD to choose, if you're house were burning down and you could
> only take one with you, which one would you pick???? Which do you use
> more often?

My $0.02? I'd take my KitchenAid. I personally use it a lot
more than the food processor (I do a lot of baking, pasta,
pizza dough, etc.), and for chopping, slicing, and that sort of
thing I simply use a knife 95% of the time anyway. And with
the right attachments, the KitchenAid will double for a
food processor a lot more often than would be the case
vice-versa.

Bob M.

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:42:39 GMT, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>I'm not sure I even know what a "nice" food processor is. I've not seen
>anything that an expensive (consumer) food processor can do that a cheap
>one can't do equally well aside from looking good in a set dressed show
>kitchen.
http://www.everythingkitchens.com/ki...processor.html

Christine

Kate Connally wrote:
>
> laurie wrote:
> >
> > between a KitchenAid Mixer and a nice food processor, which would you choose
> > and why?
> >
> > A major use for either item will be for pizza dough.
> >
> > Thanks for your recommendations.
> >
> > laurie
>
> You couldn't pay me to take a KA mixer. I hate the
> things. Sure they have powerful motors but you can't
> get at the stuff in the bowl to scrape the sides or
> add ingredients. I've never seen such poor design.
>
> Many years ago my aunt had a Hamilton Beach stand mixer
> which was perfect. The disc on which the bowls sat was
> connected to a lever. You could move the bowl in and
> out so that, when using the large bowl, the beaters would
> move from the center to the outer edge of the bowl. The
> movable disc was really meant to be moved to accommodate
> both the small bowl and the large bowl, but it had the
> unintended (I think) advantage that you had more coverage
> in the big bowl by moving it in and out. Also, the
> motor housing did not stick out over the entire workbowl
> area so you could easily stick your rubber scraper into
> the bowl to scrape down the sides. And you had plenty
> of space to add ingredients without the motor housing
> in the way.
>
> Alas, they no longer make mixers like that. I bought
> a newer Ham. Beach after hers died and they had changed
> the design of the disk. Instead of it being movable by a
> lever it now had 2 holes for placement depending on which
> bowl you wanted to use and it was fixed in that position
> the whole time you were using it. What were they thinking?
> Also, the mixer itself was more cheaply made with a plastic
> instead of a metal housing and it was not as powerful.
>
> Now, the original one my aunt had was not as powerful
> as a KA but if someone had taken the design of that mixer
> and ramped it up powerwise and added dough hooks and such
> we would have a really awesome mixer.
>
> As to the original question there is no way to choose between
> a mixer and a food processor. They are 2 totally different
> beasts. You have to have both!! There are very few things
> you can do equally well in both.
>
> And I would use neither for pizza dough. But I suppose if
> you were doing it commercially, i.e. making lots of dough
> every day I'd say you'd have to go with the mixer. I don't
> see how you could make pizza dough in a food processor.
>
> Kate
> --
> Kate Connally
> “If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
> Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
> Until you bite their heads off.”
> What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?
>

I wouldn't be without my Hobart N-50 (commercial version of the
Kitchenaid bowl lift model). It's an extremely versatile machine and
most importantly it can mix my cookie dough without going up in flames
or flying apart.

The access for scraping issue is really a non issue, you just have to
use the correct tool which is a rubber or silicone scraper / spatula.
They work just fine and you can jab and scrape down all areas of the
bowl with little effort. Certainly the clearance for access is not as
good a say a 30qt commercial model, but you have to make some
compromises when you want to scale down to countertop size.

Pete C.

On 2006-08-15, Pete C. > wrote:


> most importantly it can mix my cookie dough without going up in flames
> or flying apart.

Yeah, like I'm gonna go out and spend $1,500 so I can mix cookie
dough. :\

nb

laurie wrote:
> between a KitchenAid Mixer and a nice food processor, which would you choose
> and why?
>
> A major use for either item will be for pizza dough.
>
> Thanks for your recommendations.
>
> laurie

Mixer...if Pizza dough is the main use.

-L.

notbob wrote:
>
> On 2006-08-15, Pete C. > wrote:
>
> > most importantly it can mix my cookie dough without going up in flames
> > or flying apart.
>
> Yeah, like I'm gonna go out and spend $1,500 so I can mix cookie
> dough. :\
>
> nb

I got it used for the same price as a new Kitchenaid.

Pete C.

On 2006-08-15, Pete C. > wrote:

> I got it used for the same price as a new Kitchenaid.

Lucky you.

One thing a mixer is essential for, whipping. You can slice with a
knife, but even with a good balloon whisk, whipping up a meringue or
whipped cream by hand is a pain.

nb