Kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Kumar wrote:
> > > Can it be taken: a person having predispositions to any chronic
> > > disease(esp.those having weight loss as promient symptom eg diabetes,
> > > TB etc.) got some symptoms of disease but not yet lost substancial and
> > > unintentional weight, is either in early stage or not really got frank
> > > disease and can be cured by adopting better health practices without
> > > medicines?
> >
> > Weight loss is a physical finding and not a symptom. The symptom that
> > leads to weight loss is anorexia which is loss of appetite.
>
> Yes, but can't anorexia be disease mediated/oriented--either for spread
> or for cure of disease?

It serves the purpose of letting a physician know that there is a
problem.

> > > In short, whether weght lost symptom is must to declared patient with
> > > frank disease in which weght loss is an important symptom?
> >
> > Folks with TB lose their appetite. Folks with type 1 diabetes also
> > lose their appetite. Folkd with type 2 diabetes generally do not lose
> > their appetite and so they gain weight thereby worsening their
> > condition.
>
> What about when type2 become IDDM or frank dibetic?

Then the type 2 diabetic typically starts losing his/her appetite.

> Do they loose their
> appetite if medicated or not medicated?

With loss of homeostasis.

> > > Let us think about TB. Weight loss is an important symptom of active TB
> >
> > They lose weight from eating less because they have lost their
> > appetite.
> >
> > > Weght loss may not be there when TB bacterias are in latent stage. I
> > > think, there can be acute/active stage type symptoms when 1.disease is
> > > spreading(direction of progress of disease on wekening of immunity)) 2.
> > > when disease is occasionally controled(direction towards natural cure
> > > by getting strong immunity). But weght loss OR no weight loss/gain
> > > weight can be the differenciating symptom of either disease is toward
> > > spread or toward cure. Right??
> >
> > See above.
>
> Don't bacterias kill cells resulting weght loss?

No.

> Can't anorexia and improvement in appetite be disease mediated/oriented
> either for spread or for cure of disease? However loss of appetite be
> may also be possible as a direction towards cure for decreasing
> nutients/starving the disease causing agents in latencies/toumor?
> It is thought provoking to many TB specialists when I discudssed.

Anorexia serves to inform the physician that there is a problem.

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