Yesterday, I posted this:


I am missing so many posts lately. Mostly, I don't see the original post
but only the replies. What usually causes this? It's aggravating.

Today, I looked for any responses, only to find that my own post (above) was
also missing. Who's at fault here? It's frustrating to miss so many
posts.

Dora

"limey" > wrote in message
...
> Yesterday, I posted this:
>
>
> I am missing so many posts lately. Mostly, I don't see the original post
> but only the replies. What usually causes this? It's aggravating.
>
> Today, I looked for any responses, only to find that my own post (above)
> was also missing. Who's at fault here? It's frustrating to miss so many
> posts.
>
> Dora
>
>
>
>

Based on my experience, it's been my ISP's fault a few times (Frontier
Communications). They tried to blame all sorts of stuff on my end, like
ZoneAlarm (my firewall), but that was nonsense. The problem usually vanishes
within 12-24 hours and nobody can explain why.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:39:41 GMT, Doug Kanter wrote:
>
> Based on my experience, it's been my ISP's fault a few times (Frontier
> Communications). They tried to blame all sorts of stuff on my end, like
> ZoneAlarm (my firewall), but that was nonsense. The problem usually vanishes
> within 12-24 hours and nobody can explain why.
>
Be glad you don't have to deal with Comcast. They buy whole sale from
giganews. When it goes out or there are problems, Comcast blames
giganews and tells us to complain to them.... and giganews says:
complain to Comcast. Believe me, if I had another choice for cable
access... I'd drop comcast in a heartbeat.
--

Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.

limey wrote:
> Yesterday, I posted this:
>
>
> I am missing so many posts lately. Mostly, I don't see the original post
> but only the replies. What usually causes this? It's aggravating.
>
> Today, I looked for any responses, only to find that my own post (above) was
> also missing. Who's at fault here? It's frustrating to miss so many
> posts.
>
> Dora
>
>
>
>


It's likely a problem with your news server or your news reader. I can
see your message yesterday just fine >.
The weird part is I think I'm using the same news server as you (that's
why I mentioned your news reader as a possiblilty).

Bob

"zxcvbob" > wrote in message
...
> limey wrote:
>> Yesterday, I posted this:
>>
>>
>> I am missing so many posts lately. Mostly, I don't see the original
>> post
>> but only the replies. What usually causes this? It's aggravating.
>>
>> Today, I looked for any responses, only to find that my own post (above)
>> was also missing. Who's at fault here? It's frustrating to miss so
>> many posts.
>>
>> Dora
>>
>>
>
> It's likely a problem with your news server or your news reader. I can
> see your message yesterday just fine >. The
> weird part is I think I'm using the same news server as you (that's why I
> mentioned your news reader as a possiblilty).
>
> Bob

Yes, I've had trouble before and thought it was the news server, but Victor
Sack advised he could see all the posts. Looks like the news reader - my
ISP is Verizon, no less. Or would the problem be Outlook Express? This
happens too many times.

Dora

limey wrote:
> "zxcvbob" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>limey wrote:
>>
>>>Yesterday, I posted this:
>>>
>>>
>>>I am missing so many posts lately. Mostly, I don't see the original
>>>post
>>>but only the replies. What usually causes this? It's aggravating.
>>>
>>>Today, I looked for any responses, only to find that my own post (above)
>>>was also missing. Who's at fault here? It's frustrating to miss so
>>>many posts.
>>>
>>>Dora

>>>
>>
>>It's likely a problem with your news server or your news reader. I can
>>see your message yesterday just fine >. The
>>weird part is I think I'm using the same news server as you (that's why I
>>mentioned your news reader as a possiblilty).
>>
>>Bob
>
>
> Yes, I've had trouble before and thought it was the news server, but Victor
> Sack advised he could see all the posts. Looks like the news reader - my
> ISP is Verizon, no less. Or would the problem be Outlook Express? This
> happens too many times.
>
> Dora
>
>


I'm guessing that you accidently killfiled yourself ;-)

Bob

"zxcvbob" > wrote in message
...
> limey wrote:
>> "zxcvbob" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>limey wrote:
>>>
>>>>Yesterday, I posted this:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I am missing so many posts lately. Mostly, I don't see the original
>>>>post
>>>>but only the replies. What usually causes this? It's aggravating.
>>>>
>>>>Today, I looked for any responses, only to find that my own post (above)
>>>>was also missing. Who's at fault here? It's frustrating to miss so
>>>>many posts.
>>>>
>>>>Dora

>>>>
>>>
>>>It's likely a problem with your news server or your news reader. I can
>>>see your message yesterday just fine >.
>>>The weird part is I think I'm using the same news server as you (that's
>>>why I mentioned your news reader as a possiblilty).
>>>
>>>Bob
>>
>>
>> Yes, I've had trouble before and thought it was the news server, but
>> Victor Sack advised he could see all the posts. Looks like the news
>> reader - my ISP is Verizon, no less. Or would the problem be Outlook
>> Express? This happens too many times.
>>
>> Dora
>
> I'm guessing that you accidently killfiled yourself ;-)
>
> Bob

No, I checked. Quite a thought, though.

Dora

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:07:46 -0500, "limey" >
wrote:

>
>"zxcvbob" > wrote in message
...
>> limey wrote:
>>> Yesterday, I posted this:
>>>
>>>
>>> I am missing so many posts lately. Mostly, I don't see the original
>>> post
>>> but only the replies. What usually causes this? It's aggravating.
>>>
>>> Today, I looked for any responses, only to find that my own post (above)
>>> was also missing. Who's at fault here? It's frustrating to miss so
>>> many posts.
>>>
>>> Dora
>>>
>>>
>>
>> It's likely a problem with your news server or your news reader. I can
>> see your message yesterday just fine >. The
>> weird part is I think I'm using the same news server as you (that's why I
>> mentioned your news reader as a possiblilty).
>>
>> Bob
>
>Yes, I've had trouble before and thought it was the news server, but Victor
>Sack advised he could see all the posts. Looks like the news reader - my
>ISP is Verizon, no less. Or would the problem be Outlook Express? This
>happens too many times.
>
>Dora
>
I'd go for Forte Agent and dump Outlook.


modom

"modom" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:07:46 -0500, "limey" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"zxcvbob" > wrote in message
...
>>> limey wrote:
>>>> Yesterday, I posted this:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am missing so many posts lately. Mostly, I don't see the original
>>>> post
>>>> but only the replies. What usually causes this? It's aggravating.
>>>>
>>>> Today, I looked for any responses, only to find that my own post
>>>> (above)
>>>> was also missing. Who's at fault here? It's frustrating to miss so
>>>> many posts.
>>>>
>>>> Dora
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's likely a problem with your news server or your news reader. I can
>>> see your message yesterday just fine >.
>>> The
>>> weird part is I think I'm using the same news server as you (that's why
>>> I
>>> mentioned your news reader as a possiblilty).
>>>
>>> Bob
>>
>>Yes, I've had trouble before and thought it was the news server, but
>>Victor
>>Sack advised he could see all the posts. Looks like the news reader - my
>>ISP is Verizon, no less. Or would the problem be Outlook Express? This
>>happens too many times.
>>
>>Dora
>>
> I'd go for Forte Agent and dump Outlook.
>
>
> modom

What's better about Agent?

limey wrote:


> Yes, I've had trouble before and thought it was the news server, but
> Victor Sack advised he could see all the posts. Looks like the news
> reader - my ISP is Verizon, no less. Or would the problem be Outlook
> Express? This happens too many times.


This paragraph is confusing, I'm not sure you understand the
terminology. OE *is* a newsreader. Your ISP wouldn't have anything to
do with the newsreader, that runs on your local machine, but the ISP
often provides access to a news server. If not, then it would be a
third party like news.individual.net. If you aren't using the same news
server as the other person, you may well see different message sets.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

limey wrote:

> Yesterday, I posted this:
>
>
> I am missing so many posts lately. Mostly, I don't see the original post
> but only the replies. What usually causes this? It's aggravating.

Check your filters. I miss a lot of original posts due to a heavy hand
when filtering so I often don't see the original post. OTOH, I don't
find this annoying.

>
> Today, I looked for any responses, only to find that my own post (above) was
> also missing. Who's at fault here? It's frustrating to miss so many
> posts.

Check your mail reader settings as well. I can choose not to view
already read messages or those killfiled or those where I choose to
ignore the thread. Make sure you don't have one of these options checked.
>
> Dora
>
>
>
>

"~patches~" > wrote in message
...
> limey wrote:
>
>> Yesterday, I posted this:
>>
>>
>> I am missing so many posts lately. Mostly, I don't see the original
>> post
>> but only the replies. What usually causes this? It's aggravating.
>
> Check your filters. I miss a lot of original posts due to a heavy hand
> when filtering so I often don't see the original post. OTOH, I don't find
> this annoying.

Funny, I don't have many filters in place. In fact, ones I have filtered
still show up (our dear Dr. Chung). I have checked my other settings and
seem to be clean. This whole thing is occurring more and more often.


>> Today, I looked for any responses, only to find that my own post (above)
>> was also missing. Who's at fault here? It's frustrating to miss so
>> many posts.
>
> Check your mail reader settings as well. I can choose not to view already
> read messages or those killfiled or those where I choose to ignore the
> thread. Make sure you don't have one of these options checked.
>>
(patches)

limey wrote:

> "~patches~" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>limey wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Yesterday, I posted this:
>>>
>>>
>>>I am missing so many posts lately. Mostly, I don't see the original
>>>post
>>>but only the replies. What usually causes this? It's aggravating.
>>
>>Check your filters. I miss a lot of original posts due to a heavy hand
>>when filtering so I often don't see the original post. OTOH, I don't find
>>this annoying.
>
>
> Funny, I don't have many filters in place. In fact, ones I have filtered
> still show up (our dear Dr. Chung). I have checked my other settings and
> seem to be clean. This whole thing is occurring more and more often.

Lucky you. My filters continually grow on this ng and IMO that's a
shame. I figure if one cannot behave in a civil manner, then they can
play in the twit filter. This past week alone! Jeesh!

What mail reader are you using? Perhaps I can offer some suggestions.
BTW, who is your news server. Perhaps that is the problem? Some news
servers keep the messages for such a short period of time. You can kind
of check this if you google for your id and see the messages have been
archived but aren't on your server. Another idea is to check under
options to see if you have a box checked that indicates to only keep
messages a certain number of days old or of a certain size.

"~patches~" wrote in message
>
> Lucky you. My filters continually grow on this ng and IMO that's a shame.
> I figure if one cannot behave in a civil manner, then they can play in the
> twit filter. This past week alone! Jeesh!
>
> What mail reader are you using? Perhaps I can offer some suggestions.
> BTW, who is your news server. Perhaps that is the problem? Some news
> servers keep the messages for such a short period of time. You can kind
> of check this if you google for your id and see the messages have been
> archived but aren't on your server. Another idea is to check under
> options to see if you have a box checked that indicates to only keep
> messages a certain number of days old or of a certain size.

OK, my news server is news.individual.net, a German company.

I use Outlook Express. My ISP is Verizon. Maybe OE is the culprit?

Dora

"limey" > wrote in message
news:AnVwf.14584$ya4.14369@trnddc03...
>
> "~patches~" wrote in message
>>
>> Lucky you. My filters continually grow on this ng and IMO that's a
>> shame. I figure if one cannot behave in a civil manner, then they can
>> play in the twit filter. This past week alone! Jeesh!
>>
>> What mail reader are you using? Perhaps I can offer some suggestions.
>> BTW, who is your news server. Perhaps that is the problem? Some news
>> servers keep the messages for such a short period of time. You can kind
>> of check this if you google for your id and see the messages have been
>> archived but aren't on your server. Another idea is to check under
>> options to see if you have a box checked that indicates to only keep
>> messages a certain number of days old or of a certain size.
>
> OK, my news server is news.individual.net, a German company.
>
> I use Outlook Express. My ISP is Verizon. Maybe OE is the culprit?
>
> Dora
>

If that's the case, why can I see the post you said was missing yesterday?
I'm using Outlook Express. Tell us exactly how you have your columns sorted.

Limey posted"
am missing so many posts lately. Mostly, I don't see the original
post
but only the replies. What usually causes this? It's aggravating
---------------------------
I recommend Google Groups Beta. They had a bit of a slow-down on
Sunday, but they came back. When Damsel/Carol asked if anyone saw her
two posts, that she couldnt find, I found them right away on Google
Groups, and posted them for her. I hope she found them. (They appeared
on my screen right away).
Nancree

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:15:51 -0500, limey wrote:

> Yesterday, I posted this:
>
>
> I am missing so many posts lately. Mostly, I don't see the original post
> but only the replies. What usually causes this? It's aggravating.
>
> Today, I looked for any responses, only to find that my own post (above) was
> also missing. Who's at fault here? It's frustrating to miss so many
> posts.
>
> Dora
>
>
>
It's your news server, not you. Complain to your ISP.
--

Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.

sf wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:15:51 -0500, limey wrote:

> > Today, I looked for any responses, only to find that my own post
> > (above) was also missing. Who's at fault here? It's frustrating
> > to miss so many posts.

> It's your news server, not you. Complain to your ISP.

Seems unlikely. She appears to be using news.individual.net, as do
several of us. We aren't having trouble seeing the posts.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

On 11 Jan 2006 17:18:36 GMT, Default User wrote:

> sf wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:15:51 -0500, limey wrote:
>
> > > Today, I looked for any responses, only to find that my own post
> > > (above) was also missing. Who's at fault here? It's frustrating
> > > to miss so many posts.
>
> > It's your news server, not you. Complain to your ISP.
>
> Seems unlikely. She appears to be using news.individual.net, as do
> several of us. We aren't having trouble seeing the posts.
>
so how can a news client interfer with original posts if the person
hasn't KF'd themselves???

When I used Earthlink, I knew they had different servers. Sometimes
one server crapped out, so those of us who knew the different server
addresses - just switched over. Most poeple don't know if their isp
has more than one news server and if they did, the couldn't change it.
--

Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On 11 Jan 2006 17:18:36 GMT, Default User wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:15:51 -0500, limey wrote:
>>
>> > > Today, I looked for any responses, only to find that my own post
>> > > (above) was also missing. Who's at fault here? It's frustrating
>> > > to miss so many posts.
>>
>> > It's your news server, not you. Complain to your ISP.
>>
>> Seems unlikely. She appears to be using news.individual.net, as do
>> several of us. We aren't having trouble seeing the posts.
>>
> so how can a news client interfer with original posts if the person
> hasn't KF'd themselves???
>
> When I used Earthlink, I knew they had different servers. Sometimes
> one server crapped out, so those of us who knew the different server
> addresses - just switched over. Most poeple don't know if their isp
> has more than one news server and if they did, the couldn't change it.

Most people don't know where they put the paperwork containing their ISP's
tech support phone number, which is why discussing this is so fruitless to
begin with. :-(