Mark wrote:

> Well, as I said, Sheldon, or anyone else is entitled to their views,
> whatever they may be.

Sheldon's reply to AlleyGator had exactly NOTHING to do with the ethics of
hunting. Sheldon simply mounts a personal attack on AlleyGator every chance
he gets, because Sheldon is a piece of shit.

Bob

wrote:
> I hate venison and will not eat it. It's disgusting meat and should be
> fed to the dogs only.

So you don't like your dogs much, eh?

What really angers me is here in Wisconsin they
> have deer hunting during the week of, and on Thanksgiving day. So, I
> prepare a nice Thanksgiving dinner, all our friends come over and all
> the men leave to go hunting (except one guy that dont hunt). So, all
> I see of my husband on this holiday is a flash of blaze orange fly out
> the door armed with a handful of guns and lots of beer. I end up
> spending the holiday with all the wives and that one guy who are all
> really fed up with the guys leaving each year. We spend the whole day
> waiting for them to come back. When the sun goes down, they all come
> tearing into the house, drunk on their asses and full of dirt and
> often blood (if they got a deer).

Sounds like you picked some real winners there... drunk off their asses and
no deer to show for it. Oh wait, you don't like venison. WAAAAH!

Then they all want food, which is
> cold by then, so I got to warm everything for them, and listen to them
> complain that its taking too long. Half the time they are so drunk
> they dont even recall what they ate the next day, and it seems they
> always get into a big arguement about someone scaring away a deer or
> something stupid like that. So we got to listen to that crap while
> they are eating. I am completely fed up with this.

PSSST, there's this thing called DIVORCE. Relatively new concept. It's
where you leave.

Better yet, how about marry someone who shares common interests with you?
Obviously this man didn't just start hunting out of the blue (or maybe he
did to get away from your whining). You knew he hunted when you married
him. So why exactly *did* you marry him?

At least the
> state could eliminate the hunting on Thanksgiving day and give the
> guys another day to make it up.
>
Another day? Like the deer are sitting around a table saying, "Whew, it's
Thanksgiving... let's just play cards, we're safe today. I'll see your two
and raise you five."

> This year the guys are in for a surprise. I am not cooking.

Probably wouldn't matter much to them, Shirley. I doubt anything you could
cook would be worthwhile. I'm also wondering why, just because your mother
and grandmother always served dinner at NOON you feel like you have to.
Ever hear of dinner at 8? Or heck, even 4PM?

I'm
> getting a bunch of frozen pizzas and thats what they get, plus the use
> of the oven, because they can bake them themselves. Us women are
> going to go to a restaurant for our turkey dinners, and may not come
> back till midnight.
>
I'd find a cabin in the woods and hide out there all night if I were him.
Might even sleep up in the blind.

> Happy ****ing Thanksgiving
>
You too!

Jill <---who cooks what she wants, when she wants and isn't married to
someone she obviously doesn't like very much

> On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:35:31 GMT,
> (AlleyGator) wrote:
>
>> Don't get me wrong - venison is OK. But now we've got one butchered
>> and in the freezer and I'm sure the first of December there will be
>> another one. As far as I'm concerned, you can take out the
>> tenderloin and throw the rest away. Cook it sliced up in bacon fat,
>> make a nice gravy with the fat, stock and cream - oh, yeah. Anyway,
>> it's become so boring - deer steaks, deer burgers, deer chili, deer
>> jerkey (that's pretty good). I don't want to solicit hundreds of
>> recipes, and I've seen a few listed in game recipes on a couple of
>> web sites - but I'm just curious if anyone has a venison recipe that
>> is way out of the ordinary - not part of the above list, or a stew
>> or anything like that. Something creative? Anyone?

~patches~ wrote:
> notbob wrote:
>
>> On 2005-11-23, >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I hate venison and will not eat it.
>>
>>
>>> prepare a nice Thanksgiving dinner, all our friends come over and
>>> all the men leave to go hunting
>>
>>
>>> spending the holiday with all the wives and that one guy who are all
>>> really fed up with the guys leaving each year. We spend the whole
>>> day waiting for them to come back.
>>
>>
>>> This year the guys are in for a surprise. I am not cooking.
>>
>>
>>> Happy ****ing Thanksgiving
>>
>>
>> Geez, whatta bitch! No wonder the guys all go hunting. Anything to
>> get away from you.
>>
>> nb
>
> Sounds like she needs a major attitude adjustment or for his sake a
> divorce. I can't imagine what their home environment is like with her
> attitude!

I hope they don't have children!

Jill

Shaun aRe wrote:
> "AlleyGator" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Don't get me wrong - venison is OK. But now we've got one butchered
>> and in the freezer and I'm sure the first of December there will be
>> another one. As far as I'm concerned, you can take out the
>> tenderloin and throw the rest away. Cook it sliced up in bacon fat,
>> make a nice gravy with the fat, stock and cream - oh, yeah. Anyway,
>> it's become
>> so boring - deer steaks, deer burgers, deer chili, deer jerkey
>> (that's pretty good). I don't want to solicit hundreds of recipes,
>> and I've seen a few listed in game recipes on a couple of web sites
>> - but I'm
>> just curious if anyone has a venison recipe that is way out of the
>> ordinary - not part of the above list, or a stew or anything like
>> that. Something creative? Anyone?
>
>
>
> 1) Take whole dressed cuts and roasts of venison, plus the trimmed
> choicest offal, and wrap each piece individually in sterile muslin
> cloths, and leave refrigerated until excess surface moisture is no
> longer present - the meat should feel dry to the touch.
>
>
>
> 2) Unwrap each piece, then wrap once more but in /fresh/ pieces of
> muslin.
>
>
>
> 3) Place into a spotlessly clean, sturdy cardboard box or clean
> plywood case into which has been placed about a pound of *dried*
> salt, split 8 ways into small muslin wraps evenly distributed around
> the box/case, making certain there is no room for the meats to jostle.
>
>
>
> 4) Immediately Fed-Ex Overnite or similar the cased meats to me here
> in England.
>
>
>
> 5) Sit back with a large glass of something gorgeous and feel the
> immense and soul filling satisfaction that comes with gifting
> generously to someone appreciative.
>
> HTH ',;~}~
>
>
>
> Shaun aRe

Hear hear! Except it doesn't need to be shipped to England... the southern
US will do nicely. Just don't smoke the meat, I don't care for it that way


Jill

Jill wrote about venison:

> Just don't smoke the meat, I don't care for it that way

Me neither, it takes me *hours* to get the bong cleaned out.

Bob

In article >,
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

> Jill wrote about venison:
>
> > Just don't smoke the meat, I don't care for it that way
>
> Me neither, it takes me *hours* to get the bong cleaned out.
>
> Bob
>
>

<cough> Remind me not to be drinking when I read your posts. ;-)
Damned near choked to death!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

Go to www.allrecipes.com or www.epicurious.com --both websites have
venison recipes.

Also, NRA website has a wild game cookbook.


AlleyGator wrote:
> Don't get me wrong - venison is OK. But now we've got one butchered
> and in the freezer and I'm sure the first of December there will be
> another one. As far as I'm concerned, you can take out the tenderloin
> and throw the rest away. Cook it sliced up in bacon fat, make a nice
> gravy with the fat, stock and cream - oh, yeah. Anyway, it's become
> so boring - deer steaks, deer burgers, deer chili, deer jerkey (that's
> pretty good). I don't want to solicit hundreds of recipes, and I've
> seen a few listed in game recipes on a couple of web sites - but I'm
> just curious if anyone has a venison recipe that is way out of the
> ordinary - not part of the above list, or a stew or anything like
> that. Something creative? Anyone?
>
> --
> The Doc says my brain waves closely match those of a crazed ferret.
> At least now I have an excuse.

~patches~ > wrote in news:11obj1neeekqa35
@corp.supernews.com:

> notbob wrote:
>
>> On 2005-11-23, >
>>>spending the holiday with all the wives and that one guy who are all
>>>really fed up with the guys leaving each year. We spend the whole day
>>>waiting for them to come back.
>>
>>
>>>This year the guys are in for a surprise. I am not cooking.
>>
>>
>>>Happy ****ing Thanksgiving
>>
>>
>> Geez, whatta bitch! No wonder the guys all go hunting. Anything to
>> get away from you.
>>
>> nb
>
> Sounds like she needs a major attitude adjustment or for his sake a
> divorce. I can't imagine what their home environment is like with her
> attitude!

I dunno. If, on what is supposed to be a family holiday (from everything
I'm told), my husband and male _guests_ took off somewhere else, came
home drunk, expected the food heated up for them, and complained that it
took too long, _every_ year, I don't think I'd be any too happy either.

Rhonda Anderson
Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

wrote:
> I hate venison and will not eat it. It's disgusting meat and should be
> fed to the dogs only. What really angers me is here in Wisconsin they
> have deer hunting during the week of, and on Thanksgiving day. So, I
> prepare a nice Thanksgiving dinner, all our friends come over and all
> the men leave to go hunting (except one guy that dont hunt). So, all
> I see of my husband on this holiday is a flash of blaze orange fly out
> the door armed with a handful of guns and lots of beer.

Anyone who drinks and hunts should be shot. That's a deadly
combination and completely disrespectful to the wildlife, not to
mention the other hunters.
-L.

In article .com>,
"-L." > wrote:

> wrote:

> > I see of my husband on this holiday is a flash of blaze orange fly out
> > the door armed with a handful of guns and lots of beer.
>
> Anyone who drinks and hunts should be shot. That's a deadly
> combination and completely disrespectful to the wildlife, not to
> mention the other hunters.


There's nothing wrong with drinking and hunting. Just don't do them at
the same time.

:-(

--
Dan Abel

Petaluma, California, USA

"-L." > wrote:
>Anyone who drinks and hunts should be shot. That's a deadly
>combination and completely disrespectful to the wildlife, not to
>mention the other hunters.
>-L.
>
I agree with you wholeheartedly. Guns and alcohol are a deadly
combination. Many years ago, when I was in college, a local "town"
friend used to take me hunting (oftentimes just "shooting" at targets
and such) on his dad's land which was a little over 600 acres. It was
fun and relaxing. Then I began to notice his behavior changeing, and
finally caught him pulling out a bottle of Jack Daniels and taking a
swig. That was it - I had no where else to go shoot, but I'll be
danged if I was going to hang around a drunk guy with a gun. Never
talked to him again. Actually, I did talk to him once and he tried to
apologize, but I value my life too much. I had no reason to believe
he would stop drinking. He showed up at the house I lived in drunk
and holding a bottle while my parents were visiting, for cryin out
loud. I think he was a confirmed alcoholic at age 20. Sad.

--
The Doc says my brain waves closely match those of a crazed ferret.
At least now I have an excuse.

I marinated the round steaks in Italion salad dressing overnight, then
bread the steaks, and brown in oil. Finish baking them with marinara
sauce with mozzarela cheese.

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 05:39:30 GMT, Rhonda Anderson wrote:


>I dunno. If, on what is supposed to be a family holiday (from everything
>I'm told), my husband and male _guests_ took off somewhere else, came
>home drunk, expected the food heated up for them, and complained that it
>took too long, _every_ year, I don't think I'd be any too happy either.
>
>Rhonda Anderson
>Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

If every year, the men go hunting,why does she prepare dinner at noon.
It would seem to me that after all these years, and discussions about
his hunting, she would learn to have dinner at 8 P.M.

And seeing as he is part of the "Family Holiday" he (and the other
hunters) should have a say in the timing of the day.

I think that this woman has a control problem. My EX wife had a
similar problem.

Pan Ohco wrote:

> I think that this woman has a control problem. My EX wife had a
> similar problem.

The German's have a saying: "Whose bread you eat, his song you sing". In
our family, my long-labouring mother called the shots on when we ate. If
we had a school play, she'd adjust, but we ate dinner, weekend, 1 pm
sharp, and weekdays 6 pm sharp. Anyone who grinds through 6 kids on a
low income, a wringer washer, and everything from scratch, working from
before 7 am to after 8 pm day after day, year after year, deserves
special consideration. Now, nearly 90 and cleaning up after and cooking
for my even older father, she pokes her chin out and nods everytime he
brags about how much she's saving him (in would-be nursing home bills).
blacksalt
who made her pecan pie for thanksgiving, made gravy the way she taught
me, and "set" the cranberry relish in the antique bowl she used to use.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
. ..
> Shaun aRe wrote:
> > "AlleyGator" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >> Don't get me wrong - venison is OK. But now we've got one butchered
> >> and in the freezer and I'm sure the first of December there will be
> >> another one. As far as I'm concerned, you can take out the
> >> tenderloin and throw the rest away. Cook it sliced up in bacon fat,
> >> make a nice gravy with the fat, stock and cream - oh, yeah. Anyway,
> >> it's become
> >> so boring - deer steaks, deer burgers, deer chili, deer jerkey
> >> (that's pretty good). I don't want to solicit hundreds of recipes,
> >> and I've seen a few listed in game recipes on a couple of web sites
> >> - but I'm
> >> just curious if anyone has a venison recipe that is way out of the
> >> ordinary - not part of the above list, or a stew or anything like
> >> that. Something creative? Anyone?
> >
> >
> >
> > 1) Take whole dressed cuts and roasts of venison, plus the trimmed
> > choicest offal, and wrap each piece individually in sterile muslin
> > cloths, and leave refrigerated until excess surface moisture is no
> > longer present - the meat should feel dry to the touch.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2) Unwrap each piece, then wrap once more but in /fresh/ pieces of
> > muslin.
> >
> >
> >
> > 3) Place into a spotlessly clean, sturdy cardboard box or clean
> > plywood case into which has been placed about a pound of *dried*
> > salt, split 8 ways into small muslin wraps evenly distributed around
> > the box/case, making certain there is no room for the meats to jostle.
> >
> >
> >
> > 4) Immediately Fed-Ex Overnite or similar the cased meats to me here
> > in England.
> >
> >
> >
> > 5) Sit back with a large glass of something gorgeous and feel the
> > immense and soul filling satisfaction that comes with gifting
> > generously to someone appreciative.
> >
> > HTH ',;~}~
> >
> >
> >
> > Shaun aRe
>
> Hear hear! Except it doesn't need to be shipped to England...

But of course it does! Would be ruined if you changed that part of the REC.
heheheh...


Shaun aRe

AlleyGator wrote:
>
> Don't get me wrong - venison is OK. But now we've got one butchered
> and in the freezer and I'm sure the first of December there will be
> another one. As far as I'm concerned, you can take out the tenderloin
> and throw the rest away. Cook it sliced up in bacon fat, make a nice
> gravy with the fat, stock and cream - oh, yeah. Anyway, it's become
> so boring - deer steaks, deer burgers, deer chili, deer jerkey (that's
> pretty good). I don't want to solicit hundreds of recipes, and I've
> seen a few listed in game recipes on a couple of web sites - but I'm
> just curious if anyone has a venison recipe that is way out of the
> ordinary - not part of the above list, or a stew or anything like
> that. Something creative? Anyone?
>
> --
> The Doc says my brain waves closely match those of a crazed ferret.
> At least now I have an excuse.

You can make sauerbraten with it.
Kate

AlleyGator wrote:
>
> Don't get me wrong - venison is OK. But now we've got one butchered
> and in the freezer and I'm sure the first of December there will be
> another one. As far as I'm concerned, you can take out the tenderloin
> and throw the rest away. Cook it sliced up in bacon fat, make a nice
> gravy with the fat, stock and cream - oh, yeah. Anyway, it's become
> so boring - deer steaks, deer burgers, deer chili, deer jerkey (that's
> pretty good). I don't want to solicit hundreds of recipes, and I've
> seen a few listed in game recipes on a couple of web sites - but I'm
> just curious if anyone has a venison recipe that is way out of the
> ordinary - not part of the above list, or a stew or anything like
> that. Something creative? Anyone?
>
> --
> The Doc says my brain waves closely match those of a crazed ferret.
> At least now I have an excuse.

Oh, and venison chili is good.
Kate

AlleyGator wrote:
>
> Don't get me wrong - venison is OK. But now we've got one butchered
> and in the freezer and I'm sure the first of December there will be
> another one. As far as I'm concerned, you can take out the tenderloin
> and throw the rest away. Cook it sliced up in bacon fat, make a nice
> gravy with the fat, stock and cream - oh, yeah. Anyway, it's become
> so boring - deer steaks, deer burgers, deer chili, deer jerkey (that's
> pretty good). I don't want to solicit hundreds of recipes, and I've
> seen a few listed in game recipes on a couple of web sites - but I'm
> just curious if anyone has a venison recipe that is way out of the
> ordinary - not part of the above list, or a stew or anything like
> that. Something creative? Anyone?
>
> --
> The Doc says my brain waves closely match those of a crazed ferret.
> At least now I have an excuse.

Oh, and here's my address:
Kate Connally
121 Semmens St.
Turtle Creek, PA 15145

;-)

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 12:13:10 -0800, kalanamak wrote:

>Pan Ohco wrote:
>
>> I think that this woman has a control problem. My EX wife had a
>> similar problem.
>
>The German's have a saying: "Whose bread you eat, his song you sing". In
>our family, my long-labouring mother called the shots on when we ate. If
> we had a school play, she'd adjust, but we ate dinner, weekend, 1 pm
>sharp, and weekdays 6 pm sharp. Anyone who grinds through 6 kids on a
>low income, a wringer washer, and everything from scratch, working from
>before 7 am to after 8 pm day after day, year after year, deserves
>special consideration. Now, nearly 90 and cleaning up after and cooking
>for my even older father, she pokes her chin out and nods everytime he
>brags about how much she's saving him (in would-be nursing home bills).
>blacksalt
>who made her pecan pie for thanksgiving, made gravy the way she taught
>me, and "set" the cranberry relish in the antique bowl she used to use.

So if your father had asked her to adjust till 8 P.M. thanksgiving
day, for his play (hunting), she wouldn't have done it?

He who pays the piper picks the tune.

Pan Ohco > wrote in
:

> On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 05:39:30 GMT, Rhonda Anderson wrote:
>
>
>>I dunno. If, on what is supposed to be a family holiday (from
everything
>>I'm told), my husband and male _guests_ took off somewhere else, came
>>home drunk, expected the food heated up for them, and complained that
it
>>took too long, _every_ year, I don't think I'd be any too happy either.
>>
>>Rhonda Anderson
>>Cranebrook, NSW, Australia
>
> If every year, the men go hunting,why does she prepare dinner at noon.
> It would seem to me that after all these years, and discussions about
> his hunting, she would learn to have dinner at 8 P.M.
>
> And seeing as he is part of the "Family Holiday" he (and the other
> hunters) should have a say in the timing of the day.
>
> I think that this woman has a control problem. My EX wife had a
> similar problem.

Perhaps she could adjust the dinner time, and the other wives and "the
guy who doesn't hunt" <g> could wait at home until dinner time. Is it
also a control problem to object to the men all returning home for
dinner drunk? I certainly wouldn't fuss much with the food, if they can't
remember much of what they ate the next day!

Mind you, as others have mentioned, hunting and alcohol are not a good
combination - there may well come a Thanksgiving when they don't all
return from the expedition.

Rhonda Anderson
Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

In article >,
(AlleyGator) wrote:

> Something creative? Anyone?

I don't remember if I've replied or not, so this may be a repeat. We
use the ground meat in pasta sauces and chilis.

Regards,
Ranee

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In article >,
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

> Why not PLAN to have dinner after dark? If you know that they're not going
> to be back until after dark, isn't it STUPID to make a banquet that is ready
> hours and hours too early? If I were in your bitter worn-out shoes (and GOD
> am I glad I'm not!) I'd plan to have dinner ready around 8 PM. That ought to
> be enough time for the hunters to get cleaned up and have some nibbles with
> cocktails before dinner starts. And with wives like you, I'm sure they NEED
> those cocktails.

That's what I was thinking. It is a marital problem, not a hunting
problem.

Regards,
Ranee

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In article >,
"Sandy" > wrote:

> I look forward to Hunting Season,,,,,,my man works hard all year long, and
> he deserves to go out in the woods and play Hunter.
> That's the week, I enjoy doing female things with my friends, re-decorating,
> painting a room,,,,,girl-time, shopping, etc.
> We both need a break from each other.

And if it works out right, you get a freezer full of meat. It's not
a bad exchange, if you ask me.

Regards,
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In article >,
wrote:

> We have always had thanksgiving dinner at noon. My parents and
> grandparents did the same. Its tradition, and is not getting screwed
> up because the guys want to play war in the woods while they are
> drunk. There's 364 other days of the year they can do that nonsense.

So you are one of those people who enjoys turkey for breakfast. This
year, we had nobody going home the same day, so we had a late brunch at
around 11:00 and _DINNER_ at 6:00. Get over yourself. Holiday
traditions are about both parties to a marriage. If the holiday hunt
bothers you, perhaps you can encourage him to do so the day after, but
becoming bitter and nasty will never change him and will only ruin your
life. He may never change, but at least you can take the high road and
enjoy your life.

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On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 10:40:25 GMT, Rhonda Anderson wrote:


>
>Perhaps she could adjust the dinner time, and the other wives and "the
>guy who doesn't hunt" <g> could wait at home until dinner time.


> Is it
>also a control problem to object to the men all returning home for
>dinner drunk?
Did they in fact come home drunk. Or is it the person who is unhappy
about the hunting using the standard slap against hunters.

I belong to a hunt club, and we (the members) will have a drink after
the days hunt, not get drunk. One of the members will get drunk,after
the hunting is done for the day, and will be transported home. But
then he gets drunk when is not hunting. And a rule of the club is that
all guns are put up before the bottle is opened.

>
>Mind you, as others have mentioned, hunting and alcohol are not a good
>combination - there may well come a Thanksgiving when they don't all
>return from the expedition.
That is again the slap against the hunters. If you noticed that every
one that spoke here was against drinking while hunting or handling
arms at any time.
>
>Rhonda Anderson
>Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

In article >,
kalanamak > wrote:

> The German's have a saying: "Whose bread you eat, his song you sing". In
> our family, my long-labouring mother called the shots on when we ate. If
> we had a school play, she'd adjust, but we ate dinner, weekend, 1 pm
> sharp, and weekdays 6 pm sharp. Anyone who grinds through 6 kids on a
> low income, a wringer washer, and everything from scratch, working from
> before 7 am to after 8 pm day after day, year after year, deserves
> special consideration. Now, nearly 90 and cleaning up after and cooking
> for my even older father, she pokes her chin out and nods everytime he
> brags about how much she's saving him (in would-be nursing home bills).
> blacksalt
> who made her pecan pie for thanksgiving, made gravy the way she taught
> me, and "set" the cranberry relish in the antique bowl she used to use.

In general, this is how things are done here. I cook, so I pick the
meals, I arrange meal times, etc. However, and this is a big however, I
also don't make food I know my husband hates, plan dinner for when he is
at work, etc. I am not the only person in our marriage, and he deserves
to have some say, in the things that affect him. I couldn't care less
about a salad at Thanksgiving, because of the relish tray and all the
vegetable side dishes, but Rich likes it, so I make sure there is one,
even if it is asking a family member to bring one. When Rich had to
work on holidays, we made sure our meal was done when he could be at
home. I understand that hunting isn't a job in the example here, but it
is his day of rest as well, and the time can be adjusted to when he is
present, rather than stewing all day while the food gets cold.

Regards,
Ranee

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Pan Ohco > wrote in
:

> Did they in fact come home drunk. Or is it the person who is unhappy
> about the hunting using the standard slap against hunters.

That's a possibility. I was just working from the supposition that she
was telling the truth. However, as I don't know the woman, and she's
obviously not happy, perhaps it's not true. I suppose I also had the
background of having associated with property owners whose stock were
killed when city boys came out running around in utes with beer and guns.
While there are certainly many responsible hunters etc (as with you and
your club) there are also idiots in this country, and I would have to
assume in yours as well, who will mix alcohol and shooting.
>
>>Mind you, as others have mentioned, hunting and alcohol are not a good
>>combination - there may well come a Thanksgiving when they don't all
>>return from the expedition.

> That is again the slap against the hunters. If you noticed that every
> one that spoke here was against drinking while hunting or handling
> arms at any time.

Sorry - what's a slap against the hunters? I mentioned hunting as that
was what was being discussed in this situation. Mixing alcohol with the
use of any dangerous equipment is not a good idea.

The woman certainly seems to be unhappy. There are probably other issues
besides Thanksgiving dinner. However, I don't know the whole situation,
and can't say that she is entirely at fault any more than I could say
that her husband is. I simply mentioned that I'd be a little unhappy if
people came home drunk to dinner. Maybe she can change the situation, or
maybe that's difficult - I'm not in a situation to know.As Ranee
mentioned, she could take the high road, but that's not always easy to
do! <g>

Rhonda Anderson
Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

In article >,
Rhonda Anderson > wrote:

> That's a possibility. I was just working from the supposition that she
> was telling the truth. However, as I don't know the woman, and she's
> obviously not happy, perhaps it's not true. I suppose I also had the
> background of having associated with property owners whose stock were
> killed when city boys came out running around in utes with beer and guns.
> While there are certainly many responsible hunters etc (as with you and
> your club) there are also idiots in this country, and I would have to
> assume in yours as well, who will mix alcohol and shooting.

IME, the vast majority of hunters follow the law and are courteous.
If for no other reason than that the law is strictly enforced and they
don't want to have penalties levied against them and lose their hunting
license. There are bad seeds, but they are few and far between and are
sneered at by the majority of hunters. They are a nasty group, though,
and leave a far greater impression.

Regards,
Ranee

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