I eat peanut butter mostly in the privacy of my own home, and no one here is
allergic so....I'm ok!

I bought a jar of Skippy Reduced Fat Peanut Butter (creamy) and wow is that
sweet! I think they overcompensated for the reduced fat by adding sugar. The
calorie count is the same, so they took out a few grams of fat and added in
a few grams of sugar, so the end result is the same calories.

Frankly, it's vile and I'll finish the jar but will not buy Skippy reduced
fat again. I suppose I could just eat the regular stuff and eat a little
bit less than the 2 tablespoons...But I would rather find a better product
to eat the recommended serving of.

I have been using Jif or Skippy "regular" and have also been eating store
brand peanut butters and frankly, they are pretty comparable....but I'd
really like to find a reduced fat peanut butter than isn't sickeningly
sweet, like Skippy is.

I am familiar with "Simply Jif", which has reduced sugar and reduced sodium
and the peanut taste is really fantastic! But the fat isn't reduced and
that's more what I'm looking for. I would love to find a combo of reduced
fat and reduced sugar.

Has anyone found such a thing? Peanut butter is not something I want to live
without, but I would like to find a healthier version of it. Jif makes a
lower fat version, and they make that "Simply Jif" reduced salt/sugar
version, but I don't think they do it in the same jar and that's what I
want.

Thanks....
--
---
Love like you've never been hurt
Live like there's no tomorrow
And dance like there's nobody watching

"Sheryl Rosen" > wrote in message
> I would love to find a combo of reduced
> fat and reduced sugar.
>
> Has anyone found such a thing? Peanut butter is not something I want to
> live
> without, but I would like to find a healthier version of it.

I've tried a couple and did not like the results. I'm sticking with Skippy
chunk.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/

Sheryl Rosen > wrote:
<snip>
: I would love to find a combo of reduced
: fat and reduced sugar.

: Has anyone found such a thing? Peanut butter is not something I want to live
: without, but I would like to find a healthier version of it. Jif makes a
: lower fat version, and they make that "Simply Jif" reduced salt/sugar
: version, but I don't think they do it in the same jar and that's what I
: want.

The fat in peanut butter is very high in monosaturates, the same
factor that people are so excited about in olive oil. The ratios
aren't as good as for olive oil, but they're nothing to be
afraid of.

Real peanut butter has no added sugar; you can get it without
added salt, and I like its taste much better than the more common
mixture using that name. It has nothing extraneous --
no preservatives, no mysterious 'flavor enhancers', no stabilizers.
The oil will separate and rise to the top, so you can get a low
fat, but very hard to eat version by waiting a while.

--thelma
: Thanks....

"Sheryl Rosen" > wrote in message
...
>I eat peanut butter mostly in the privacy of my own home, and no one
>here is
> allergic so....I'm ok!

These days, I feel like that's the only place we can eat peanut butter!
>
> I bought a jar of Skippy Reduced Fat Peanut Butter (creamy) and wow is
> that
> sweet! I think they overcompensated for the reduced fat by adding
> sugar. The
> calorie count is the same, so they took out a few grams of fat and
> added in
> a few grams of sugar, so the end result is the same calories.
>

I haven't tried this. It's the natural kind that you have to mix up
before eating and then keep in the fridge, but Smuckers natural
reduced-fat PB has only 2 g. of sugar per serving:

http://www.smuckers.com/fg/pds/defau...=11&prodid=109

Without the added sugar, I'm not sure what this stuff would taste like,
given the added maltodextrin. Anyone tried it?

W/ natural peanut butter in general, the oil in can be a bit of a pain;
I've found it easiest and best to dump the entire jar into a medium-size
bowl, mix it thoroughly, and then put it back in the jar (using a rubber
spatula to get everything out of the bowl).

Hmm, I wonder if you could make your own reduced fat peanut butter?
Take a jar of natural peanut butter, drain off (and reserve) some of the
oil, mix the heck out of it as best you can, and refrigerate. It might
be a little pasty/chalky, but heck...if you don't like it, you can
always add the reserved oil back in.

Frankly, I like the taste of partially-hydrogenated peanut butter
better. It works better for cookies and sauces, too.

As always, report back if you find something good out there, Sheryl!!
Chris

"Sheryl Rosen" > wrote in message
...
>I eat peanut butter mostly in the privacy of my own home, and no one
>here is
> allergic so....I'm ok!
>
> I bought a jar of Skippy Reduced Fat Peanut Butter (creamy) and wow is
> that
> sweet! I think they overcompensated for the reduced fat by adding
> sugar. The
> calorie count is the same, so they took out a few grams of fat and
> added in
> a few grams of sugar, so the end result is the same calories.
>
> Frankly, it's vile and I'll finish the jar but will not buy Skippy
> reduced
> fat again. I suppose I could just eat the regular stuff and eat a
> little
> bit less than the 2 tablespoons...But I would rather find a better
> product
> to eat the recommended serving of.

A couple of interesting quotes from peanutbutterlovers.com:

"'Peanut butter spreads,' a relatively new category now allowed by FDA,
contain only 60% peanuts, but are nutritionally equivalent to peanut
butter (although they may contain more sugar or salt). Many companies
introduced peanut butter spreads as a reduced-fat alternative to peanut
butter. But today there also are real peanut butters on the market (look
for Laura Scudder and Smuckers) which are 25% reduced-fat and still
contain at least 90% peanuts."


"A peanut butter and jelly sandwich stacks up well against other popular
food items such as a chicken filet sandwich, a hot dog, a slice of
pepperoni pizza and a hamburger.

A PB&J on white bread contains a lower percentage of calories from fat,
less saturatef fat, and almost no cholesterol (the small amount is from
the bread) than the other items. The PB&J contains more fiber and less
sodium than the other items (with only one exception -- the hamburger
contains 2 mg less sodium than the PB&J).

All comparisons were based on 100 gram servings. A 100 gram PB&J
includes two tablespoons of peanut butter and two slices of white bread
with jelly. The chicken filet sandwich is 2 ounces of chicken on a plain
bun with no condiments (this is much smaller than a normal chicken
sandwich). The hot dog on a plain bun has no condiments included. The
slice of pepperoni pizza represents 1/8th of a 13-inch pizza. The
hamburger is 2 ounces of lean ground beef on a plain bun with no
condiments."

Chris wrote:
>
> Hmm, I wonder if you could make your own reduced fat peanut butter?
> Take a jar of natural peanut butter, drain off (and reserve) some of the
> oil, mix the heck out of it as best you can, and refrigerate. It might
> be a little pasty/chalky, but heck...if you don't like it, you can
> always add the reserved oil back in.

One note about the "natural" peanut butters on the market that are
"organic". Be very cautious about buying these products. Peanuts are
notorious hosts for fungi, and organic peanuts are usually laden with
fungal spores. Some fungi produce mycotoxins that can be extremely
hazardous to your health.

Peanuts are the one product I will always buy non-organic.

-L.

Chris wrote:
> "Sheryl Rosen" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I eat peanut butter mostly in the privacy of my own home, and no one
>>here is
>>allergic so....I'm ok!
>>
>>I bought a jar of Skippy Reduced Fat Peanut Butter (creamy) and wow is
>>that
>>sweet! I think they overcompensated for the reduced fat by adding
>>sugar. The
>>calorie count is the same, so they took out a few grams of fat and
>>added in
>>a few grams of sugar, so the end result is the same calories.
>>
>>Frankly, it's vile and I'll finish the jar but will not buy Skippy
>>reduced
>>fat again. I suppose I could just eat the regular stuff and eat a
>>little
>>bit less than the 2 tablespoons...But I would rather find a better
>>product
>>to eat the recommended serving of.
>
>
> A couple of interesting quotes from peanutbutterlovers.com:
>
> "'Peanut butter spreads,' a relatively new category now allowed by FDA,
> contain only 60% peanuts, but are nutritionally equivalent to peanut
> butter (although they may contain more sugar or salt). Many companies
> introduced peanut butter spreads as a reduced-fat alternative to peanut
> butter. But today there also are real peanut butters on the market (look
> for Laura Scudder and Smuckers) which are 25% reduced-fat and still
> contain at least 90% peanuts."
>
>
> "A peanut butter and jelly sandwich stacks up well against other popular
> food items such as a chicken filet sandwich, a hot dog, a slice of
> pepperoni pizza and a hamburger.
>
> A PB&J on white bread contains a lower percentage of calories from fat,
> less saturatef fat, and almost no cholesterol (the small amount is from
> the bread) than the other items. The PB&J contains more fiber and less
> sodium than the other items (with only one exception -- the hamburger
> contains 2 mg less sodium than the PB&J).
>
> All comparisons were based on 100 gram servings. A 100 gram PB&J
> includes two tablespoons of peanut butter and two slices of white bread
> with jelly. The chicken filet sandwich is 2 ounces of chicken on a plain
> bun with no condiments (this is much smaller than a normal chicken
> sandwich). The hot dog on a plain bun has no condiments included. The
> slice of pepperoni pizza represents 1/8th of a 13-inch pizza. The
> hamburger is 2 ounces of lean ground beef on a plain bun with no
> condiments."
>
>
>
>
>

So how do you tell when Peanut Butter has been in the jar too long
and needs to be tossed?
I've had a jar up in shelves for 8 months and noticed it's a bit darker in color now.

" jdc1" <" > wrote in message
> So how do you tell when Peanut Butter has been in the jar too long
> and needs to be tossed?
> I've had a jar up in shelves for 8 months and noticed it's a bit darker in
> color now.
>
It will smell and taste rancid.

Sheryl Rosen wrote:

> I eat peanut butter mostly in the privacy of my own home, and no one here is
> allergic so....I'm ok!
>
> I bought a jar of Skippy Reduced Fat Peanut Butter (creamy) and wow is that
> sweet! I think they overcompensated for the reduced fat by adding sugar. The
> calorie count is the same, so they took out a few grams of fat and added in
> a few grams of sugar, so the end result is the same calories.
>
> Frankly, it's vile and I'll finish the jar but will not buy Skippy reduced
> fat again. I suppose I could just eat the regular stuff and eat a little
> bit less than the 2 tablespoons...But I would rather find a better product
> to eat the recommended serving of.

I've found most things labeled as reduced, low, or no fat to be vile!
No fat cottage cheese is horrid and no fat miracle whip is inedible. The
no fat sour cream has no texture or taste other than extra sweetness.
Reduced fat motzarella cheese made with skim milk isn't too bad but it
still isn't as good.
>
> I have been using Jif or Skippy "regular" and have also been eating store
> brand peanut butters and frankly, they are pretty comparable....but I'd
> really like to find a reduced fat peanut butter than isn't sickeningly
> sweet, like Skippy is.

We use very little peanut butter, mainly for a batch of peanut butter
cookies or to top rice crispy squares. I doubt we would go through a
small jar in a year. Instead of buying it I just put peanuts in the
blender and blend them up for fresh peanut butter with no sweetners
added. IMO it tastes better than the preservative and sugar laden
peanut butter you buy in the stores.
>
> I am familiar with "Simply Jif", which has reduced sugar and reduced sodium
> and the peanut taste is really fantastic! But the fat isn't reduced and
> that's more what I'm looking for. I would love to find a combo of reduced
> fat and reduced sugar.
>
> Has anyone found such a thing? Peanut butter is not something I want to live
> without, but I would like to find a healthier version of it. Jif makes a
> lower fat version, and they make that "Simply Jif" reduced salt/sugar
> version, but I don't think they do it in the same jar and that's what I
> want.
>
> Thanks....

On Sun 25 Sep 2005 06:28:49a, L, not -L wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Sheryl Rosen > wrote:
> <snip>
>: I would love to find a combo of reduced fat and reduced sugar.
>
>: Has anyone found such a thing? Peanut butter is not something I want to
>: live without, but I would like to find a healthier version of it. Jif
>: makes a lower fat version, and they make that "Simply Jif" reduced
>: salt/sugar version, but I don't think they do it in the same jar and
>: that's what I want.
>
> I buy peanut butter at a healthfood store; they grind it on-site, at the
> time of sale, nothing added. Most store brands have both sugar and more
> oil added. The biggest "problem" with fresh ground is, it doesn't
> contain emulsifiers; without the emulsifiers to keep the peanut oil in
> the peanut butter, the oil separates. This separation happens over a
> few days and can be beneficial if you want less fat in your peanut
> butter and don't mind it being a bit drier (you could always add
> something else to thin the peanut butter)
>

IIRC, Smucker's Natural is just peanuts and salt. It separates, but all
peanut butters without emulsifiers separate. One solution is to mix it
well, then refrigerate.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
__________________________________________________ ___

If assholes could fly, this place would be an airport.

Sheryl Rosen wrote:
> I eat peanut butter mostly in the privacy of my own home, and no one here is
> allergic so....I'm ok!
>
> I bought a jar of Skippy Reduced Fat Peanut Butter (creamy) and wow is that
> sweet! I think they overcompensated for the reduced fat by adding sugar. The
> calorie count is the same, so they took out a few grams of fat and added in
> a few grams of sugar, so the end result is the same calories.
>
> Frankly, it's vile and I'll finish the jar but will not buy Skippy reduced
> fat again. I suppose I could just eat the regular stuff and eat a little
> bit less than the 2 tablespoons...But I would rather find a better product
> to eat the recommended serving of.
>
> I have been using Jif or Skippy "regular" and have also been eating store
> brand peanut butters and frankly, they are pretty comparable....but I'd
> really like to find a reduced fat peanut butter than isn't sickeningly
> sweet, like Skippy is.
>
> I am familiar with "Simply Jif", which has reduced sugar and reduced sodium
> and the peanut taste is really fantastic! But the fat isn't reduced and
> that's more what I'm looking for. I would love to find a combo of reduced
> fat and reduced sugar.
>
> Has anyone found such a thing? Peanut butter is not something I want to live
> without, but I would like to find a healthier version of it. Jif makes a
> lower fat version, and they make that "Simply Jif" reduced salt/sugar
> version, but I don't think they do it in the same jar and that's what I
> want.
>
> Thanks....

I consider peanut butter a junk snack food (right up there with ice
cream). With junk snack foods I really hate having to ration myself to
what some government entity tells me is a proper portion... if all I
can have is some miniscule amount then I really don't enjoy and may as
well not indulge at all, and so I don't. Snack foods I typically
indulge in on a daily basis need no rationing, I mean like who cares
how many apples, oranges, and bananas they eat... I love summer fruit,
don't think eating two-three juicy ripe peaches at a sitting ever made
anyone obese. But I don't eat high fat junk snack foods very often so
when I do indulge I eat as much as I like. It has to be at least two
years since I had a jar of peanut butter in the house, maybe three
years. I can assure yoose I probably finished it in 3-4 occasions like
within a week (probably more like in 3-4 days), I can assure yoose I
enjoyed it enough to last me years. I love chocolate, but if all I
could have at a sitting was like an ounce I'd hate chocolate with a
passion... when I do eat chocolate I eat as much as I like, could be at
least a pound or three over as many days. The last time I ate
chocolate was last Halloween... it's almost time for me to get my
chocolate fix again. Another of my favorite junk snack foods is potato
chips... has to be more than ten years since I ate potato chips but
just yesterday while I was in the stupidmarket there was a big stack of
Wise on sale (11 1/2 ounce bag/$2) and the urge hit me. Soon as I got
home I opened that bag, popped open a two liter bottle of diet cherry
soda and had a potato chip/pop brunch... real nutritious! Ya know, I
could only eat about half of that bag and all of a sudden those potato
chips tasted disgusting... tossed the rest into the yard for the
birds... will probably be another ten years before I eat another potato
chip. If I had to ration out two tablespoons of peanut butter I
wouldn't eat any... I'd much rather indulge in ripe honeydew... grew my
own and been pigging out on them for weeks now... yup, gonna eat as
much as I like. Melon contains no fat at all.

Sheldon

Chris wrote:
>
> All comparisons were based on 100 gram servings. A 100 gram PB&J
> includes two tablespoons of peanut butter and two slices of white bread
> with jelly. The chicken filet sandwich is 2 ounces of chicken on a plain
> bun with no condiments (this is much smaller than a normal chicken
> sandwich). The hot dog on a plain bun has no condiments included. The
> slice of pepperoni pizza represents 1/8th of a 13-inch pizza. The
> hamburger is 2 ounces of lean ground beef on a plain bun with no
> condiments."

Sheesh, any one of my cats eats larger portions... they weigh about 15
pounds and sleep 18 hours a day... and you expect a grown active guy to
exist on those POW rations... GTF outta here.

Friggin' idiot thinks we're lab rats.

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .

Fresh ground, let sit out for a day or 2 and the oil will rise to the top.
Dump the oil (but save for cooking, it's wonderful)
We only eat fresh (real) PB in our house ... the jar stuff is just nasty.


"Sheryl Rosen" > wrote in message
...
>I eat peanut butter mostly in the privacy of my own home, and no one here
>is
> allergic so....I'm ok!
>
> I bought a jar of Skippy Reduced Fat Peanut Butter (creamy) and wow is
> that
> sweet! I think they overcompensated for the reduced fat by adding sugar.
> The
> calorie count is the same, so they took out a few grams of fat and added
> in
> a few grams of sugar, so the end result is the same calories.
>
> Frankly, it's vile and I'll finish the jar but will not buy Skippy reduced
> fat again. I suppose I could just eat the regular stuff and eat a little
> bit less than the 2 tablespoons...But I would rather find a better product
> to eat the recommended serving of.
>
> I have been using Jif or Skippy "regular" and have also been eating store
> brand peanut butters and frankly, they are pretty comparable....but I'd
> really like to find a reduced fat peanut butter than isn't sickeningly
> sweet, like Skippy is.
>
> I am familiar with "Simply Jif", which has reduced sugar and reduced
> sodium
> and the peanut taste is really fantastic! But the fat isn't reduced and
> that's more what I'm looking for. I would love to find a combo of reduced
> fat and reduced sugar.
>
> Has anyone found such a thing? Peanut butter is not something I want to
> live
> without, but I would like to find a healthier version of it. Jif makes a
> lower fat version, and they make that "Simply Jif" reduced salt/sugar
> version, but I don't think they do it in the same jar and that's what I
> want.
>
> Thanks....
> --
> ---
> Love like you've never been hurt
> Live like there's no tomorrow
> And dance like there's nobody watching
>

Kat at wrote on 9/25/05 11:15 AM:

> Fresh ground, let sit out for a day or 2 and the oil will rise to the top.
> Dump the oil (but save for cooking, it's wonderful)
> We only eat fresh (real) PB in our house ... the jar stuff is just nasty.

Well, ok, thanks for sharing your opinion, I guess.
I think what you call "real" peanut butter tastes "just nasty", as you put
it. What I call "real" peanut butter is the jar stuff. That fresh ground
stuff is too gritty (in my opinion) to bother with.

Again, you didn't answer my question, but thanks for getting it off your
chest.

I'm sure I'll catch flak for rendering my judgement and opinion on this
subject, even though others do it all day long and they don't. Whatever.
I should have known better than to ask a serious food related question here
and expect an actual response to the question.


>
>
> "Sheryl Rosen" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I eat peanut butter mostly in the privacy of my own home, and no one here
>> is
>> allergic so....I'm ok!
>>
>> I bought a jar of Skippy Reduced Fat Peanut Butter (creamy) and wow is
>> that
>> sweet! I think they overcompensated for the reduced fat by adding sugar.
>> The
>> calorie count is the same, so they took out a few grams of fat and added
>> in
>> a few grams of sugar, so the end result is the same calories.
>>
>> Frankly, it's vile and I'll finish the jar but will not buy Skippy reduced
>> fat again. I suppose I could just eat the regular stuff and eat a little
>> bit less than the 2 tablespoons...But I would rather find a better product
>> to eat the recommended serving of.
>>
>> I have been using Jif or Skippy "regular" and have also been eating store
>> brand peanut butters and frankly, they are pretty comparable....but I'd
>> really like to find a reduced fat peanut butter than isn't sickeningly
>> sweet, like Skippy is.
>>
>> I am familiar with "Simply Jif", which has reduced sugar and reduced
>> sodium
>> and the peanut taste is really fantastic! But the fat isn't reduced and
>> that's more what I'm looking for. I would love to find a combo of reduced
>> fat and reduced sugar.
>>
>> Has anyone found such a thing? Peanut butter is not something I want to
>> live
>> without, but I would like to find a healthier version of it. Jif makes a
>> lower fat version, and they make that "Simply Jif" reduced salt/sugar
>> version, but I don't think they do it in the same jar and that's what I
>> want.
>>
>> Thanks....
>> --
>> ---
>> Love like you've never been hurt
>> Live like there's no tomorrow
>> And dance like there's nobody watching
>>
>
>

--
---
Love like you've never been hurt
Live like there's no tomorrow
And dance like there's nobody watching

"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>
> " jdc1" <" > wrote in message
>> So how do you tell when Peanut Butter has been in the jar too long
>> and needs to be tossed?
>> I've had a jar up in shelves for 8 months and noticed it's a bit
>> darker in color now.
>>
> It will smell and taste rancid.


Yep. At best, it will not smell so much like peanuts anymore. This
week I had a jar in my pantry that I opened in June. It was almost
empty, but didn't smell quite right. It didn't smell *horrible*, but
just not that good. I opened up a fresh jar of the same brand, and the
difference was amazing.

So I never buy giant Costco-sized jars of peanut butter anymore...we
don't go through it quickly enough, and I'd end up throwing much of it
away anyhow.

8 months? Chuck it and get a new, small jar.

"Sheryl Rosen" > wrote in message
...
>
> I'm sure I'll catch flak for rendering my judgement and opinion on
> this
> subject, even though others do it all day long and they don't.
> Whatever.
> I should have known better than to ask a serious food related question
> here
> and expect an actual response to the question.

Ulp. I suppose next time I won't bother with an actual response.

"Sheryl Rosen" > wrote in message
...
> I eat peanut butter mostly in the privacy of my own home, and no one here
is
> allergic so....I'm ok!
>
> I bought a jar of Skippy Reduced Fat Peanut Butter (creamy) and wow is
that
> sweet! I think they overcompensated for the reduced fat by adding sugar.
The
> calorie count is the same, so they took out a few grams of fat and added
in
> a few grams of sugar, so the end result is the same calories.
>
> Frankly, it's vile and I'll finish the jar but will not buy Skippy reduced
> fat again. I suppose I could just eat the regular stuff and eat a little
> bit less than the 2 tablespoons...But I would rather find a better product
> to eat the recommended serving of.
>
> I have been using Jif or Skippy "regular" and have also been eating store
> brand peanut butters and frankly, they are pretty comparable....but I'd
> really like to find a reduced fat peanut butter than isn't sickeningly
> sweet, like Skippy is.
>
> I am familiar with "Simply Jif", which has reduced sugar and reduced
sodium
> and the peanut taste is really fantastic! But the fat isn't reduced and
> that's more what I'm looking for. I would love to find a combo of reduced
> fat and reduced sugar.
>
> Has anyone found such a thing? Peanut butter is not something I want to
live
> without, but I would like to find a healthier version of it. Jif makes a
> lower fat version, and they make that "Simply Jif" reduced salt/sugar
> version, but I don't think they do it in the same jar and that's what I
> want.


I only buy Laura Scudder's peanut butter. Have forever too. Skippy and
Jiff are peanut butter flavored spreads. LS is as they say, peanuts and
salt - that's all. Just stir it well, and store it in the fridge. The oil
won't seperate that way. My favorite is the crunchy style.

Paul

Sheryl Rosen wrote:
> Kat at wrote on 9/25/05 11:15 AM:
>
>
>>Fresh ground, let sit out for a day or 2 and the oil will rise to the top.
>>Dump the oil (but save for cooking, it's wonderful)
>>We only eat fresh (real) PB in our house ... the jar stuff is just nasty.
>
>
> Well, ok, thanks for sharing your opinion, I guess.
> I think what you call "real" peanut butter tastes "just nasty", as you put
> it. What I call "real" peanut butter is the jar stuff. That fresh ground
> stuff is too gritty (in my opinion) to bother with.
>
> Again, you didn't answer my question, but thanks for getting it off your
> chest.
>
> I'm sure I'll catch flak for rendering my judgement and opinion on this
> subject, even though others do it all day long and they don't. Whatever.
> I should have known better than to ask a serious food related question here
> and expect an actual response to the question.
>


I doubt it. More likely since you asked a question and then spanked
someone for trying to provide a helpful answer, people will just start
ignoring you again. HTH :-)

Best regards,
Bob

zxcvbob at wrote on 9/25/05 7:33 PM:

> Sheryl Rosen wrote:
>> Kat at wrote on 9/25/05 11:15 AM:
>>
>>
>>> Fresh ground, let sit out for a day or 2 and the oil will rise to the top.
>>> Dump the oil (but save for cooking, it's wonderful)
>>> We only eat fresh (real) PB in our house ... the jar stuff is just nasty.
>>
>>
>> Well, ok, thanks for sharing your opinion, I guess.
>> I think what you call "real" peanut butter tastes "just nasty", as you put
>> it. What I call "real" peanut butter is the jar stuff. That fresh ground
>> stuff is too gritty (in my opinion) to bother with.
>>
>> Again, you didn't answer my question, but thanks for getting it off your
>> chest.
>>
>> I'm sure I'll catch flak for rendering my judgement and opinion on this
>> subject, even though others do it all day long and they don't. Whatever.
>> I should have known better than to ask a serious food related question here
>> and expect an actual response to the question.
>>
>
>
> I doubt it. More likely since you asked a question and then spanked
> someone for trying to provide a helpful answer, people will just start
> ignoring you again. HTH :-)
>
> Best regards,
> Bob

How is "We only eat fresh (real) PB in our house ... the jar stuff is just
nasty." a helpful answer to the question "is there a peanut butter that
combines the lower sugar/lower salt aspect of Simply Jif with the reduced
fat of Skippy Reduced fat?, because the reduced fat stuff is just too sweet
for me"? It's not helpful at all.

It should have been clear from the post that I was referring to processed
peanut butter. I mentioned 2 of the 3 major brands. If the answer is no,
then it's no.

You people are too busy arguing over inanities like whether peanut butter
should be allowed in public places, or the merits of changing your screen
name, and why has tv news gotten so bad, to bother to read anything well
enough to be able to comprehend what's being written.

Like I said, I shoulda known better.
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Live like there's no tomorrow
And dance like there's nobody watching

Sheryl Rosen wrote:

> zxcvbob at wrote on 9/25/05 7:33 PM:
>
>
>>Sheryl Rosen wrote:
>>
>>>Kat at wrote on 9/25/05 11:15 AM:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Fresh ground, let sit out for a day or 2 and the oil will rise to the top.
>>>>Dump the oil (but save for cooking, it's wonderful)
>>>>We only eat fresh (real) PB in our house ... the jar stuff is just nasty.
>>>
>>>
>>>Well, ok, thanks for sharing your opinion, I guess.
>>>I think what you call "real" peanut butter tastes "just nasty", as you put
>>>it. What I call "real" peanut butter is the jar stuff. That fresh ground
>>>stuff is too gritty (in my opinion) to bother with.
>>>
>>>Again, you didn't answer my question, but thanks for getting it off your
>>>chest.
>>>
>>>I'm sure I'll catch flak for rendering my judgement and opinion on this
>>>subject, even though others do it all day long and they don't. Whatever.
>>>I should have known better than to ask a serious food related question here
>>>and expect an actual response to the question.
>>>
>>
>>
>>I doubt it. More likely since you asked a question and then spanked
>>someone for trying to provide a helpful answer, people will just start
>>ignoring you again. HTH :-)
>>
>>Best regards,
>>Bob
>
>
> How is "We only eat fresh (real) PB in our house ... the jar stuff is just
> nasty." a helpful answer to the question "is there a peanut butter that
> combines the lower sugar/lower salt aspect of Simply Jif with the reduced
> fat of Skippy Reduced fat?, because the reduced fat stuff is just too sweet
> for me"? It's not helpful at all.
>
> It should have been clear from the post that I was referring to processed
> peanut butter. I mentioned 2 of the 3 major brands. If the answer is no,
> then it's no.
>
> You people are too busy arguing over inanities like whether peanut butter
> should be allowed in public places, or the merits of changing your screen
> name, and why has tv news gotten so bad, to bother to read anything well
> enough to be able to comprehend what's being written.
>
> Like I said, I shoulda known better.

Seriously Sheryl, I would really like to answer your question but we
just aren't into peanut butter. For the very little we use I will make
fresh only because it isn't cost effective to store actual ready-made
peanut butter. I've seen the stuff at the health food and bulk store
but still for the amount we use it isn't worth it. If it looks like we
won't use up the peanuts, I will toss them out to the squirrels. DH
isn't fond of me feeding the squirrels after he had to clean out the
eavetroph because the enterprising squirrels stored Christmas nuts in
them I've heard good reviews on Kraft peanut butter though. DS
prefers this brand. He eats enough peanut butter to buy it. If I buy
peanut butter for a care pack that's the brand I buy because I know he
will eat it. I haven't heard too much on Skippy but then it's a brand
we can't readily get here and I've never seen Jiff here ever so I can't
comment on either of these. I will say the no name or store brand
peanut butters certainly don't measure up to DS's tastes!

Sheryl Rosen wrote:
>
> How is "We only eat fresh (real) PB in our house ... the jar stuff is just
> nasty." a helpful answer to the question "is there a peanut butter that
> combines the lower sugar/lower salt aspect of Simply Jif with the reduced
> fat of Skippy Reduced fat?, because the reduced fat stuff is just too sweet
> for me"? It's not helpful at all.

What part of, "Fresh ground, let sit out for a day or 2 and the oil will
rise to the top. Dump the oil (but save for cooking, it's wonderful)" do
*you* not understand?

> It should have been clear from the post that I was referring to processed
> peanut butter. I mentioned 2 of the 3 major brands. If the answer is no,
> then it's no.

And you said that you didn't like them. Kat's answer of pouring excess
oil off the top of natural peanut butter was a great reply.
>
> You people are too busy arguing... to bother to read anything well
> enough to be able to comprehend what's being written.

See my previous comment on reading comprehension.

Regards,
Bob

"Sheryl Rosen" > wrote in message
...
> zxcvbob at wrote on 9/25/05 7:33 PM:
>
>> Sheryl Rosen wrote:
>>> Kat at wrote on 9/25/05 11:15 AM:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Fresh ground, let sit out for a day or 2 and the oil will rise to the
>>>> top.
>>>> Dump the oil (but save for cooking, it's wonderful)
>>>> We only eat fresh (real) PB in our house ... the jar stuff is just
>>>> nasty.
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, ok, thanks for sharing your opinion, I guess.
>>> I think what you call "real" peanut butter tastes "just nasty", as you
>>> put
>>> it. What I call "real" peanut butter is the jar stuff. That fresh
>>> ground
>>> stuff is too gritty (in my opinion) to bother with.
>>>
>>> Again, you didn't answer my question, but thanks for getting it off your
>>> chest.
>>>
>>> I'm sure I'll catch flak for rendering my judgement and opinion on this
>>> subject, even though others do it all day long and they don't. Whatever.
>>> I should have known better than to ask a serious food related question
>>> here
>>> and expect an actual response to the question.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I doubt it. More likely since you asked a question and then spanked
>> someone for trying to provide a helpful answer, people will just start
>> ignoring you again. HTH :-)
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Bob
>
> How is "We only eat fresh (real) PB in our house ... the jar stuff is just
> nasty." a helpful answer to the question "is there a peanut butter that
> combines the lower sugar/lower salt aspect of Simply Jif with the reduced
> fat of Skippy Reduced fat?, because the reduced fat stuff is just too
> sweet
> for me"? It's not helpful at all.
>
> It should have been clear from the post that I was referring to processed
> peanut butter. I mentioned 2 of the 3 major brands. If the answer is no,
> then it's no.
>
> You people are too busy arguing over inanities like whether peanut butter
> should be allowed in public places, or the merits of changing your screen
> name, and why has tv news gotten so bad, to bother to read anything well
> enough to be able to comprehend what's being written.
>
> Like I said, I shoulda known better.
> --

Idiot, I told you to dump the oil off ... that would make LESS oil. You
wanted something w/ LESS fat ... in case you can't figure it out .. that
would be less fat.
/sigh ... ya .. *I* shoulda known better.

In article >,
Sheryl Rosen > wrote:


> really like to find a reduced fat peanut butter than isn't sickeningly
> sweet, like Skippy is.
>
> I am familiar with "Simply Jif", which has reduced sugar and reduced sodium
> and the peanut taste is really fantastic! But the fat isn't reduced and
> that's more what I'm looking for. I would love to find a combo of reduced
> fat and reduced sugar.
>
> Has anyone found such a thing? Peanut butter is not something I want to live
> without, but I would like to find a healthier version of it.

Of course, it's partly a matter of taste, and when talking about
reduction of fat and calories, there's a lot of psychology in there also.

My personal opinion is that there are some things that simply cannot be
made lower fat and lower calories, and peanut butter is one of those.
Many recipes involve several ingredients, and sometimes you can reduce
an ingredient, or substitute for it, and still have the result taste
good. The only ingredient in good peanut butter is peanuts. There is
often some salt, and sometimes extra oil, but basically it's peanuts.

My strategy for dealing with foods that are inherently high in fat, is
to reduce the quantity. Half the peanut butter means half the fat and
calories. Obviously this doesn't work for everybody.