Home |
Search |
Today's Posts |
![]() |
|
General Cooking (rec.food.cooking) For general food and cooking discussion. Foods of all kinds, food procurement, cooking methods and techniques, eating, etc. |
Reply |
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Hi,
I made some home made burgers last night following a recipie but it came out rather bland. This is what I used: Lean Mince beef Egg Chilli Onion Garlic Spring onions Basil salt brushed with olive oil (I cooked them under the grill) The flavours from the onions, chillis and garlic was quite refresing and pleasant, but it seemed to be missing something, and as I said, was just a bit bland. It didnt really taste much like a burger! does anyone have a magic burger ingredient? |
|
|||
|
|||
![]() > wrote in message oups.com... > Hi, > > I made some home made burgers last night following a recipie but it > came out rather bland. This is what I used: > > Lean Mince beef > Egg > Chilli > Onion > Garlic > Spring onions > Basil > salt > brushed with olive oil > > (I cooked them under the grill) > > The flavours from the onions, chillis and garlic was quite refresing > and pleasant, but it seemed to be missing something, and as I said, was > just a bit bland. It didnt really taste much like a burger! > That's because it wasn't a burger. It was meatloaf. Dave |
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Hairy wrote:
> > wrote in message > oups.com... > > Hi, > > > > I made some home made burgers last night following a recipie but it > > came out rather bland. This is what I used: > > > > Lean Mince beef > > Egg > > Chilli > > Onion > > Garlic > > Spring onions > > Basil > > salt > > brushed with olive oil > > > > (I cooked them under the grill) > > > > The flavours from the onions, chillis and garlic was quite refresing > > > and pleasant, but it seemed to be missing something, and as I said, > was > > just a bit bland. It didnt really taste much like a burger! > > > > That's because it wasn't a burger. It was meatloaf. > > Dave Probly the 'lean beef' was the problem, fat has flavour and for burgers one uses a less than lean ground beef. Also i love to put about 2 tsp. of fennel seeds in a pound of ground beef for burgers. And of course a walnut sized ball of blue cheese with the meat moulded around it then flattened for a burger is very good also, i did once see Julia Child make a burger with freshly ground sirloin but she put a walnut sized piece of butter inside it and proceeded to cook the beef patty. I am always amused by Julia's use of butter. Not as bad as Paul Prudhome's (sp?) but still.... --- JL |
|
|||
|
|||
![]() wrote: > Hi, > > I made some home made burgers last night following a recipie but it > came out rather bland. This is what I used: > > Lean Mince beef > Egg > Chilli > Onion > Garlic > Spring onions > Basil > salt > brushed with olive oil > > (I cooked them under the grill) > > The flavours from the onions, chillis and garlic was quite refresing > and pleasant, but it seemed to be missing something, and as I said, was > just a bit bland. It didnt really taste much like a burger! That's because it wasn't a burger. > > does anyone have a magic burger ingredient? Ground chuck, salt, pepper. You don't need all that other crap. |
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
> wrote in message
oups.com... > Hi, > > I made some home made burgers last night following a recipie but it > came out rather bland. This is what I used: > > Lean Mince beef > Egg > Chilli > Onion > Garlic > Spring onions > Basil > salt > brushed with olive oil > > (I cooked them under the grill) > > The flavours from the onions, chillis and garlic was quite refresing > and pleasant, but it seemed to be missing something, and as I said, was > just a bit bland. It didnt really taste much like a burger! > > does anyone have a magic burger ingredient? > The problem is that you did not make a burger but rather a meatloaf. A burger is ground meat and perhaps a little salt, nothing more, cooked to medium AT THE VERY MOST. Any other additions are added afterwards, on the outside. The soul of a great burger is the taste of the meat, and when you add all that stuff you cover it up. Ground chuck is best. Meatloaf can be great too, don't get me wrong, but it is something entirely different. Take 1/4 lb of ground chuck and form it into a patty with as little pressure as possible. Sprinkle with S&P and grill (preferably) or pan fry to medium rare. Put on a toasted whole grain bun with Vidalia onion, tomato, lettuce, ketchup. That's all there is to it. -- Peter Aitken |
|
|||
|
|||
![]() "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message m... > > wrote in message > oups.com... > > Hi, > > > > I made some home made burgers last night following a recipie but it > > came out rather bland. This is what I used: > > > > Lean Mince beef > > Egg > > Chilli > > Onion > > Garlic > > Spring onions > > Basil > > salt > > brushed with olive oil > > > > (I cooked them under the grill) > > > > The flavours from the onions, chillis and garlic was quite refresing > > and pleasant, but it seemed to be missing something, and as I said, was > > just a bit bland. It didnt really taste much like a burger! > > > > does anyone have a magic burger ingredient? > > > > The problem is that you did not make a burger but rather a meatloaf. A > burger is ground meat and perhaps a little salt, nothing more, cooked to > medium AT THE VERY MOST. Any other additions are added afterwards, on the > outside. The soul of a great burger is the taste of the meat, and when you > add all that stuff you cover it up. Ground chuck is best. Meatloaf can be > great too, don't get me wrong, but it is something entirely different. > > Take 1/4 lb of ground chuck and form it into a patty with as little pressure > as possible. Sprinkle with S&P and grill (preferably) or pan fry to medium > rare. Put on a toasted whole grain bun with Vidalia onion, tomato, lettuce, > ketchup. That's all there is to it. > > > -- > Peter Aitken > > I still like a little garlic powder and worcestershire on my burgers, but yeah, ground chuck, salt and my other things and that's it. kili |
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
kilikini wrote:
> I still like a little garlic powder and worcestershire on my burgers, > but > yeah, ground chuck, salt and my other things and that's it. > > kili Me mum used to make us burgers following the directions on the bottle of Lee & Perins worsteshire (sp?) sauce, just the meat in a pan with butter and worsteshire sauce and very good they were. ---- JL |
|
|||
|
|||
![]() |
|
|||
|
|||
![]() > wrote in message oups.com... > Hi, > > I made some home made burgers last night following a recipie but it > came out rather bland. This is what I used: > > Lean Mince beef > Egg > Chilli > Onion > Garlic > Spring onions > Basil > salt > brushed with olive oil > > (I cooked them under the grill) > > The flavours from the onions, chillis and garlic was quite refresing > and pleasant, but it seemed to be missing something, and as I said, was > just a bit bland. It didnt really taste much like a burger! > > does anyone have a magic burger ingredient? > Try a fattier beef, with only salt and pepper. If you must add flavorings, a bit of Worchestershire sauce. The egg was to hold the patties together because you added the other solid ingredients?? As many have replied.... that's a grilled meatloaf patty sans bell pepper, you made. |
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
wrote:
> Hi, > > I made some home made burgers last night following a recipie but it > came out rather bland. This is what I used: > > Lean Mince beef > Egg > Chilli > Onion > Garlic > Spring onions > Basil > salt > brushed with olive oil > > (I cooked them under the grill) > > The flavours from the onions, chillis and garlic was quite refresing > and pleasant, but it seemed to be missing something, and as I said, was > just a bit bland. It didnt really taste much like a burger! > > does anyone have a magic burger ingredient? I'm no expert but take your ground meat and just start with that and maybe some salt and pepper. Save the toppings for after they're cheese'd and on buns. Nix the egg for certain. Andy |
|
|||
|
|||
![]() |
|
|||
|
|||
![]() |
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
On Sun 18 Sep 2005 09:48:58a, wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> Hi, > > I made some home made burgers last night following a recipie but it > came out rather bland. This is what I used: > > Lean Mince beef > Egg > Chilli > Onion > Garlic > Spring onions > Basil > salt > brushed with olive oil > > (I cooked them under the grill) > > The flavours from the onions, chillis and garlic was quite refresing > and pleasant, but it seemed to be missing something, and as I said, was > just a bit bland. It didnt really taste much like a burger! > > does anyone have a magic burger ingredient? > Nice meatloaf you've got there! The best burgers I consistently make are 100% meat with no additions. I use 80% lean and hand form the patties. -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* ____________________________________________ Okay, okay, I take it back! UnScrew you! |
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Wayne Boatwright > said:
> Nice meatloaf you've got there! The best burgers I consistently make are > 100% meat with no additions. I use 80% lean and hand form the patties. (I'm just attaching my comments to your post because it's the last one on my list - nothing negative about what you said at all) Doesn't anyone put chopped onions in their burgers? My dad used to make them that way, then grilled them over charcoal. I never cooked them that way myself until this (fading) summer. Damn! Those things are good! So much better than plain ol' meat. Okay, back to the meatloaf discussion ... Carol |
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
In article >,
Damsel in dis Dress > wrote: > Wayne Boatwright > said: > > > Nice meatloaf you've got there! The best burgers I consistently make are > > 100% meat with no additions. I use 80% lean and hand form the patties. > > (I'm just attaching my comments to your post because it's the last one on > my list - nothing negative about what you said at all) > > Doesn't anyone put chopped onions in their burgers? My dad used to make > them that way, then grilled them over charcoal. I never cooked them that > way myself until this (fading) summer. Damn! Those things are good! So > much better than plain ol' meat. > > Okay, back to the meatloaf discussion ... > > Carol When one is consuming a lot of meat in the diet (like I am at the moment), plain meat burgers are going to get really boring really fast, as is plain grilled chicken. I'm fixin' to start experimenting with mixing stuff with my beef (keeping it low carb) to make my "burgers" more interesting. Same with the chicken. After seeing the earlier thread on chicken palliard (or however the hell it's spelled!) I do want to try pounding spices/herbs into the raw chickens breasts and/or thighs prior to grilling them. So I did not think that meatloaf burgers was such a bad idea. :-) I just hate clearing out my oven to make a baked meatloaf in a pan! There are only two of us and this burns a lot of electricity, makes a mess, heats up the house and is a PITA in general. I think meatloaf patties, grilled or fried, are an excellent idea. -- Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
OmManiPadmeOmelet > said:
> I think meatloaf patties, grilled or fried, are an excellent idea. That's what Crash makes. We serve it with beef gravy, mashed potatoes, and corn. That mixture keeps coming up, doesn't it? Carol |
|
|||
|
|||
![]() Damsel in dis Dress wrote: > OmManiPadmeOmelet > said: > > > I think meatloaf patties, grilled or fried, are an excellent idea. > > That's what Crash makes. We serve it with beef gravy, mashed potatoes, and > corn. That mixture keeps coming up, doesn't it? > > Carol |
|
|||
|
|||
![]() Damsel in dis Dress wrote: > OmManiPadmeOmelet > said: > > > I think meatloaf patties, grilled or fried, are an excellent idea. > > That's what Crash makes. We serve it with beef gravy, mashed potatoes, and > corn. That mixture keeps coming up, doesn't it? > > Carol > |
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
On Sun 18 Sep 2005 11:21:39p, Damsel in dis Dress wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> OmManiPadmeOmelet > said: > >> I think meatloaf patties, grilled or fried, are an excellent idea. > > That's what Crash makes. We serve it with beef gravy, mashed potatoes, and > corn. That mixture keeps coming up, doesn't it? > > Carol > I really like ALL those variations. I just wouldn't call it hamburgers. :-) -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* ____________________________________________ Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day. Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974 |
|
|||
|
|||
![]() OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: > > > When one is consuming a lot of meat in the diet (like I am at the > moment), plain meat burgers are going to get really boring really fast, > as is plain grilled chicken. > > I'm fixin' to start experimenting with mixing stuff with my beef > (keeping it low carb) to make my "burgers" more interesting. Same with > the chicken. After seeing the earlier thread on chicken palliard (or > however the hell it's spelled!) I do want to try pounding spices/herbs > into the raw chickens breasts and/or thighs prior to grilling them. If only you had a meat grinder... you could make your own chicken meat loaf or chicken patty meat loaf... that's about the only way I do skinless/boneless chicken breasts... I don't really care for plain chicken breasts, no matter even if you cook them book-perfect they're still kinds dry and tasteless.... instead grind them with veggies, herbs, seasoning... then blend in some crumbs and a few eggs, form into whatever shape, brush with egg and coat with crumbs and fry, or bake. Breasts are kind of tender so you don't want to grill yours or the grill grate will slice into them like they're hard cooked eggs, if yoose think mamograms are bad... hehe If you had a meat grinder you could do the same with any meat, any cut of beef, pork, turkey, even fish... and you'll know exactly what/who is in it. Salmon loaf is great... I used to have a really good recipe where cottage cheese was added to the ground salmon mixture but it's nowhere to be found, I suppose one could experiment with a small recipe. Sheldon |
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
In article .com>,
"Sheldon" > wrote: > OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: > > > > > When one is consuming a lot of meat in the diet (like I am at the > > moment), plain meat burgers are going to get really boring really fast, > > as is plain grilled chicken. > > > > I'm fixin' to start experimenting with mixing stuff with my beef > > (keeping it low carb) to make my "burgers" more interesting. Same with > > the chicken. After seeing the earlier thread on chicken palliard (or > > however the hell it's spelled!) I do want to try pounding spices/herbs > > into the raw chickens breasts and/or thighs prior to grilling them. > > If only you had a meat grinder... you could make your own chicken meat > loaf or chicken patty meat loaf... that's about the only way I do > skinless/boneless chicken breasts... I don't really care for plain > chicken breasts, no matter even if you cook them book-perfect they're > still kinds dry and tasteless.... instead grind them with veggies, > herbs, seasoning... then blend in some crumbs and a few eggs, form into > whatever shape, brush with egg and coat with crumbs and fry, or bake. > Breasts are kind of tender so you don't want to grill yours or the > grill grate will slice into them like they're hard cooked eggs, if > yoose think mamograms are bad... hehe > > If you had a meat grinder you could do the same with any meat, any cut > of beef, pork, turkey, even fish... and you'll know exactly what/who is > in it. Salmon loaf is great... I used to have a really good recipe > where cottage cheese was added to the ground salmon mixture but it's > nowhere to be found, I suppose one could experiment with a small > recipe. > > Sheldon > I may very well have to look into that. The kitchen aid can be a pita to set up for small amounts. Do you have a good sausage spice recipe? Not a pre-mix? -- Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Sheldon replied:
>> I'm fixin' to start experimenting with mixing stuff with my beef >> (keeping it low carb) to make my "burgers" more interesting. Same with >> the chicken. After seeing the earlier thread on chicken palliard (or >> however the hell it's spelled!) I do want to try pounding spices/herbs >> into the raw chickens breasts and/or thighs prior to grilling them. > > If only you had a meat grinder... you could make your own chicken meat > loaf or chicken patty meat loaf... that's about the only way I do > skinless/boneless chicken breasts... I don't really care for plain > chicken breasts, no matter even if you cook them book-perfect they're > still kinds dry and tasteless.... instead grind them with veggies, > herbs, seasoning... then blend in some crumbs and a few eggs, form into > whatever shape, brush with egg and coat with crumbs and fry, or bake. > Breasts are kind of tender so you don't want to grill yours or the > grill grate will slice into them like they're hard cooked eggs, if > yoose think mamograms are bad... hehe > > If you had a meat grinder you could do the same with any meat, any cut > of beef, pork, turkey, even fish... and you'll know exactly what/who is > in it. Salmon loaf is great... I used to have a really good recipe > where cottage cheese was added to the ground salmon mixture but it's > nowhere to be found, I suppose one could experiment with a small > recipe. The direction this conversation is taking reminds me of the "prison loaf" discussion we had here a few years ago. From http://www.npr.org/programs/wesat/fe...oaf/index.html Special Management Meal (Served to misbehaving inmates for all their meals.) Yield - Three Loaves 6 slices whole wheat bread, finely chopped 4 ounces imitation cheddar cheese, finely grated 4 ounces raw carrots, finely grated 12 ounces spinach, canned, drained 2 cups dried Great Northern Beans, soaked, cooked and drained 4 tablespoons vegetable oil 6 ounces potato flakes, dehydrated 6 ounces tomato paste 8 ounces powdered skim milk 4 ounces raisins Mix all ingredients in a 12-quart mixing bowl. Make sure all wet items are drained. Mix until stiff, just moist enough to spread. Form three loaves in glazed bread pans. Place loaf pans in the oven on a sheet pan filled with water, to keep the bottom of the loaves from burning. Bake at 325 degrees in a convection oven for approximately 45 minutes. The loaf will start to pull away from the sides of the bread pan when done. Bob |
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
G'day Sheldon,
I was interested to see your comment below about using a meat grinder for "mixing" ingredients as distinct from simply making mince. What do you call a "meat grinder" over there these days? My ancient mincer is a thing with a hopper and a small auger that forces stuff though a perforated plate with a rotating cutter at the end. It simply clamps onto the edge of the kitchen table so the winding handle can be turned fully, and the minced stuff falls out the other end into whatever you've put under it (or onto the table top ![]() That sound anything like yours? In article .com>, "Sheldon" > wrote: >OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: >> > >> When one is consuming a lot of meat in the diet (like I am at the >> moment), plain meat burgers are going to get really boring really fast, >> as is plain grilled chicken. >> >> I'm fixin' to start experimenting with mixing stuff with my beef >> (keeping it low carb) to make my "burgers" more interesting. Same with >> the chicken. After seeing the earlier thread on chicken palliard (or >> however the hell it's spelled!) I do want to try pounding spices/herbs >> into the raw chickens breasts and/or thighs prior to grilling them. > >If only you had a meat grinder... you could make your own chicken meat >loaf or chicken patty meat loaf... that's about the only way I do >skinless/boneless chicken breasts... I don't really care for plain >chicken breasts, no matter even if you cook them book-perfect they're >still kinds dry and tasteless.... instead grind them with veggies, >herbs, seasoning... then blend in some crumbs and a few eggs, form into >whatever shape, brush with egg and coat with crumbs and fry, or bake. >Breasts are kind of tender so you don't want to grill yours or the >grill grate will slice into them like they're hard cooked eggs, if >yoose think mamograms are bad... hehe > >If you had a meat grinder you could do the same with any meat, any cut >of beef, pork, turkey, even fish... and you'll know exactly what/who is >in it. Salmon loaf is great... I used to have a really good recipe >where cottage cheese was added to the ground salmon mixture but it's >nowhere to be found, I suppose one could experiment with a small >recipe. Cheers, Phred. -- LID |
|
|||
|
|||
![]() Damsel in dis Dress wrote: > Wayne Boatwright > said: > > > Nice meatloaf you've got there! The best burgers I consistently make are > > 100% meat with no additions. I use 80% lean and hand form the patties. > > (I'm just attaching my comments to your post because it's the last one on > my list - nothing negative about what you said at all) > > Doesn't anyone put chopped onions in their burgers? Yes, of course. And occasionally just a bit of finely chopped garlic. John Kane KIngston ON > My dad used to make > them that way, then grilled them over charcoal. I never cooked them that > way myself until this (fading) summer. Damn! Those things are good! So > much better than plain ol' meat. > > Okay, back to the meatloaf discussion ... > > Carol |
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 22:23:14 -0500, in rec.food.cooking, Damsel in dis
Dress wrote: >Wayne Boatwright > said: > >> Nice meatloaf you've got there! The best burgers I consistently make are >> 100% meat with no additions. I use 80% lean and hand form the patties. > >(I'm just attaching my comments to your post because it's the last one on >my list - nothing negative about what you said at all) > >Doesn't anyone put chopped onions in their burgers? My dad used to make >them that way, then grilled them over charcoal. I never cooked them that >way myself until this (fading) summer. Damn! Those things are good! So >much better than plain ol' meat. I haven't made burgers much recently, but when I did I usually added chopped onions. Doug -- Doug Weller -- exorcise the demon to reply Doug & Helen's Dogs http://www.dougandhelen.com A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk |
|
|||
|
|||
![]() Doug Weller wrote: > On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 22:23:14 -0500, in rec.food.cooking, Damsel in dis > Dress wrote: > > >Wayne Boatwright > said: > > > >> Nice meatloaf you've got there! The best burgers I consistently make are > >> 100% meat with no additions. I use 80% lean and hand form the patties. > > > >(I'm just attaching my comments to your post because it's the last one on > >my list - nothing negative about what you said at all) > > > >Doesn't anyone put chopped onions in their burgers? My dad used to make > >them that way, then grilled them over charcoal. I never cooked them that > >way myself until this (fading) summer. Damn! Those things are good! So > >much better than plain ol' meat. > > I haven't made burgers much recently, but when I did I usually added > chopped onions. Better with a fresh cut paper thin slice of raw onion on top of a cooked burger... chopped onions inside remain pretty much raw anyways but those bits fercockt up the taste of the meat... I suppose yoose use mystery meat and I can appreciate not wanting to taste that. Sheldon |
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
On 22 Sep 2005 14:21:21 -0700, Sheldon wrote:
> > Doug Weller wrote: > > > > I haven't made burgers much recently, but when I did I usually added > > chopped onions. > > Better with a fresh cut paper thin slice of raw onion on top of a > cooked burger... I agree, except I want my onion in thick slices. Onion breath can be your friend... just like coffee breath. > chopped onions inside remain pretty much raw anyways Not in my experience. If they did, I wouldn't object so much. > but those bits fercockt up the taste of the meat... I agree. > I suppose yoose use > mystery meat and I can appreciate not wanting to taste that. > It f's up the taste of fresh ground too. |
|
|||
|
|||
![]() wrote: > Hi, > > I made some home made burgers last night following a recipie but it > came out rather bland. This is what I used: > > Lean Mince beef > Egg > Chilli > Onion > Garlic > Spring onions > Basil > salt > brushed with olive oil > > (I cooked them under the grill) > > The flavours from the onions, chillis and garlic was quite refresing > and pleasant, but it seemed to be missing something, and as I said, was > just a bit bland. It didnt really taste much like a burger! > > does anyone have a magic burger ingredient? I do. The magic burger ingredient is beef. -bwg "[T]he administration has to spend money like a drunken bureaucrat at home, to prove that it can afford to spend money like a drunken colonial bureaucrat in Iraq." -- <http://billmon.org/archives/002161.html> |
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
You should try the Italian salad dressing package and mix it in with 1
lb. of groud beef. The package wieghs .07 ounces. |
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Grind my own beef because I don't know what is going on in the meat
industry. I ground lean beef and it was tastless when cooked. I then added a thumb size amount of gound lamb. Just enough flavour to make a perfect burger. Nothing else is needed as others have said but some fat in some form is a must. |
Reply |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
Display Modes | |
|
|
![]() |
||||
Thread | Forum | |||
Home Made Sausage | General Cooking | |||
What exactly is 'home made'? | General Cooking | |||
Breakfast, non home-made | General Cooking | |||
Home Made Pop? | Winemaking | |||
Home Made Soy Yogurt ? | General Cooking |