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wild boar
I would like to know if in Us there are wild boars; if you eat them and how
you cook. In nothern Italy we use boar stew, cooked in red wine. With grilled polenta is wonderful! With The sauce of the meat we season pasta (Fettuccine, ravioli, pappardelle, etc). Cheers Pandora |
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"Pandora" > wrote in message ... >I would like to know if in Us there are wild boars; if you eat them and how >you cook. > In nothern Italy we use boar stew, cooked in red wine. With grilled > polenta is wonderful! With The sauce of the meat we season pasta > (Fettuccine, ravioli, pappardelle, etc). > Cheers > Pandora > In my best Bubba voice (Forrest Gump)............wild boar kabobs, wild boar and shrimp, wild boar grilled, wild boar cooked, breaded wild boar, deep fried wild boar, marinated wild boar, sun dried wild boar, zesty wild boar.................................. :-) Yes, there are wild boar in the US but it is something not normally on the menu. I would imagine it tastes like pork but gamey.....is that correct? |
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In article >,
"Pandora" > wrote: > I would like to know if in Us there are wild boars; if you eat them and how > you cook. > In nothern Italy we use boar stew, cooked in red wine. With grilled polenta > is wonderful! With The sauce of the meat we season pasta (Fettuccine, > ravioli, pappardelle, etc). > Cheers > Pandora > > Yes, there are both feral (domestic) wild pigs and true wild boars known as "Javalina". I know they are around here but I've never tried it. :-) -- Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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"*JimH*" > ha scritto nel messaggio ... > > "Pandora" > wrote in message > ... >>I would like to know if in Us there are wild boars; if you eat them and >>how you cook. >> In nothern Italy we use boar stew, cooked in red wine. With grilled >> polenta is wonderful! With The sauce of the meat we season pasta >> (Fettuccine, ravioli, pappardelle, etc). >> Cheers >> Pandora >> > > In my best Bubba voice (Forrest Gump)............ What is Bubba voice? wild boar kabobs, wild boar and shrimp, I don't think that you can eat wild boar with shrimps !!!!))) wild boar grilled, wild boar cooked, breaded wild boar, Breaded WB? deep > fried wild boar, marinated wild boar, sun dried wild boar, zesty wild > boar.................................. :-) > > Yes, there are wild boar in the US but it is something not normally on the > menu. Here you can find Wb on the mountains menu. > > I would imagine it tastes like pork but gamey.....is that correct? I don't know what "gamey" does mean? Cheers pandora > > |
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > ha scritto nel messaggio ... > In article >, > "Pandora" > wrote: > >> I would like to know if in Us there are wild boars; if you eat them and >> how >> you cook. >> In nothern Italy we use boar stew, cooked in red wine. With grilled >> polenta >> is wonderful! With The sauce of the meat we season pasta (Fettuccine, >> ravioli, pappardelle, etc). >> Cheers >> Pandora >> >> > > Yes, there are both feral (domestic) wild pigs and true wild boars known > as "Javalina". I know they are around here but I've never tried it. :-) Ohhh! It is a very pity! You don't know what you loose. We often use wild boar salami. Very good taste! Cheers Pandora |
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"Pandora" > wrote in message ... > > "*JimH*" > ha scritto nel messaggio > ... >> >> "Pandora" > wrote in message >> ... >>>I would like to know if in Us there are wild boars; if you eat them and >>>how you cook. >>> In nothern Italy we use boar stew, cooked in red wine. With grilled >>> polenta is wonderful! With The sauce of the meat we season pasta >>> (Fettuccine, ravioli, pappardelle, etc). >>> Cheers >>> Pandora >>> >> >> In my best Bubba voice (Forrest Gump)............ > What is Bubba voice? > > wild boar kabobs, > wild boar and shrimp, > > I don't think that you can eat wild boar with shrimps !!!!))) > > wild boar grilled, wild boar cooked, > breaded wild boar, > > Breaded WB? > > deep >> fried wild boar, marinated wild boar, sun dried wild boar, zesty wild >> boar.................................. :-) >> >> Yes, there are wild boar in the US but it is something not normally on >> the menu. > > Here you can find Wb on the mountains menu. >> >> I would imagine it tastes like pork but gamey.....is that correct? > > I don't know what "gamey" does mean? > Cheers > pandora >> >> > > Gamey.....a taste of the wild. If you ever ate wild turkey and turkey raised on farms you would know what I mean. |
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On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 23:17:01 +0200, "Pandora" >
wrote: >I would like to know if in Us there are wild boars; if you eat them and how >you cook. >In nothern Italy we use boar stew, cooked in red wine. With grilled polenta >is wonderful! With The sauce of the meat we season pasta (Fettuccine, >ravioli, pappardelle, etc). >Cheers >Pandora I shot one in North Carolina several years ago...meat was so rank no even the dog would eat it. Really bad. > |
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On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 23:17:01 +0200, "Pandora" >
wrote: >I would like to know if in Us there are wild boars; if you eat them and how >you cook. >In nothern Italy we use boar stew, cooked in red wine. With grilled polenta >is wonderful! With The sauce of the meat we season pasta (Fettuccine, >ravioli, pappardelle, etc). >Cheers >Pandora I had it once at a local restaurant, Po, in a sauce for pappardelle. But it's not very common. Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! |
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Here in South Louisiana there is an area called Honey Island Swamp. It is
very aptly named and consists of a very large area. It is over populated with feral hogs. Each fall some very large boars are taken by hunters. They taste very gamey, but,if cooked right, can be very tasty. |
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In article >,
"Pandora" > wrote: > "OmManiPadmeOmelet" > ha scritto nel messaggio > ... > > In article >, > > "Pandora" > wrote: > > > >> I would like to know if in Us there are wild boars; if you eat them and > >> how > >> you cook. > >> In nothern Italy we use boar stew, cooked in red wine. With grilled > >> polenta > >> is wonderful! With The sauce of the meat we season pasta (Fettuccine, > >> ravioli, pappardelle, etc). > >> Cheers > >> Pandora > >> > >> > > > > Yes, there are both feral (domestic) wild pigs and true wild boars known > > as "Javalina". I know they are around here but I've never tried it. :-) > > Ohhh! It is a very pity! You don't know what you loose. > We often use wild boar salami. Very good taste! > Cheers > Pandora > > It's a matter of paying the hunting leases. :-) All the land in Texas is privately owned! There really is no place to hunt without paying those hunting lease fees and that can be VERY expensive! -- Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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In article >,
"Pandora" > wrote: > "*JimH*" > ha scritto nel messaggio > ... > > > > "Pandora" > wrote in message > > ... > >>I would like to know if in Us there are wild boars; if you eat them and > >>how you cook. > >> In nothern Italy we use boar stew, cooked in red wine. With grilled > >> polenta is wonderful! With The sauce of the meat we season pasta > >> (Fettuccine, ravioli, pappardelle, etc). > >> Cheers > >> Pandora > >> > > > > In my best Bubba voice (Forrest Gump)............ > What is Bubba voice? > > wild boar kabobs, > wild boar and shrimp, > > I don't think that you can eat wild boar with shrimps !!!!))) > > wild boar grilled, wild boar cooked, > breaded wild boar, > > Breaded WB? He's just teasing Pandora! <lol> That's a takeoff from the movie "Forrest Gump". > > deep > > fried wild boar, marinated wild boar, sun dried wild boar, zesty wild > > boar.................................. :-) > > > > Yes, there are wild boar in the US but it is something not normally on the > > menu. > > Here you can find Wb on the mountains menu. > > > > I would imagine it tastes like pork but gamey.....is that correct? > > I don't know what "gamey" does mean? Gamey. Hmmmmmm... hard to describe but older wild animals, even deer, tend to have a "wild game" taste that is unique. Some people don't like it, but specific marinading techniques can control it somewhat. > Cheers > pandora -- Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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In article >,
Allan Matthews > wrote: > On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 23:17:01 +0200, "Pandora" > > wrote: > > >I would like to know if in Us there are wild boars; if you eat them and how > >you cook. > >In nothern Italy we use boar stew, cooked in red wine. With grilled polenta > >is wonderful! With The sauce of the meat we season pasta (Fettuccine, > >ravioli, pappardelle, etc). > >Cheers > >Pandora > > I shot one in North Carolina several years ago...meat was so rank no > even the dog would eat it. Really bad. > > > Was it bled out properly when it was killed? That's pretty important. Proper marinating can also take care of that somewhat I'm told? -- Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 16:35:11 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
> wrote: >In article >, > "Pandora" > wrote: > >> I would like to know if in Us there are wild boars; if you eat them and how >> you cook. >> In nothern Italy we use boar stew, cooked in red wine. With grilled polenta >> is wonderful! With The sauce of the meat we season pasta (Fettuccine, >> ravioli, pappardelle, etc). >> Cheers >> Pandora >> >> > >Yes, there are both feral (domestic) wild pigs and true wild boars known >as "Javalina". I know they are around here but I've never tried it. :-) Folks tell me that one is almost never hungry enough to eat javalina. They taste that bad. Here in northeast Texas feral hogs are common enough to be a problem. They are hunted for their meat and to reduce their population. They can really mess up one's corn crop or pasture land fast. While most hunters kill them in the field, some take them alive so they can be butchered according to health department code for the upscale restaurant trade in Dallas. The latter hunters share some characteristics in common with Bat Man. And I don't mean their fabulous wealth. A wild hog is capable of eating a hunter. modom |
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"*JimH*" > ha scritto nel messaggio ... > > "Pandora" > wrote in message > ... >> >> "*JimH*" > ha scritto nel messaggio >> ... >>> >>> "Pandora" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>>I would like to know if in Us there are wild boars; if you eat them and >>>>how you cook. >>>> In nothern Italy we use boar stew, cooked in red wine. With grilled >>>> polenta is wonderful! With The sauce of the meat we season pasta >>>> (Fettuccine, ravioli, pappardelle, etc). >>>> Cheers >>>> Pandora >>>> >>> >>> In my best Bubba voice (Forrest Gump)............ >> What is Bubba voice? >> >> wild boar kabobs, >> wild boar and shrimp, >> >> I don't think that you can eat wild boar with shrimps !!!!))) >> >> wild boar grilled, wild boar cooked, >> breaded wild boar, >> >> Breaded WB? >> >> deep >>> fried wild boar, marinated wild boar, sun dried wild boar, zesty wild >>> boar.................................. :-) >>> >>> Yes, there are wild boar in the US but it is something not normally on >>> the menu. >> >> Here you can find Wb on the mountains menu. >>> >>> I would imagine it tastes like pork but gamey.....is that correct? >> >> I don't know what "gamey" does mean? >> Cheers >> pandora >>> >>> >> >> > > Gamey.....a taste of the wild. If you ever ate wild turkey and turkey > raised on farms you would know what I mean. I don't like very much turkey's meat (I eat only grilled slices of breast); BTW we haven't wild turkey, here. Yes. The wild bear has a very hard taste of gamey. But we kill this taste with a particular system of cooking called "Civet" or Civè (a french word which means cook in the wine.). We let the meat in the wine for about a night, than change the wine and let other 12 hours in new wine with spicy, onions, carrots, celery and a potato (potatos thicken the sauce). In this way we also cook chamois, deers, roes. Once upon a time an highlander gave me a secret: "put in the first and in the second wine a piece of chocolate, the gamey tast will go away). I tried and I must say that he said the truth! Cheers Pandora > > |
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"Curly Sue" > ha scritto nel messaggio ... > On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 23:17:01 +0200, "Pandora" > > wrote: > >>I would like to know if in Us there are wild boars; if you eat them and >>how >>you cook. >>In nothern Italy we use boar stew, cooked in red wine. With grilled >>polenta >>is wonderful! With The sauce of the meat we season pasta (Fettuccine, >>ravioli, pappardelle, etc). >>Cheers >>Pandora > > I had it once at a local restaurant, Po, in a sauce for pappardelle. > But it's not very common. Did you appreciate the taste, or not? Pandora |
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > ha scritto nel messaggio ... > In article >, > "Pandora" > wrote: > >> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" > ha scritto nel messaggio >> ... >> > In article >, >> > "Pandora" > wrote: >> > >> >> I would like to know if in Us there are wild boars; if you eat them >> >> and >> >> how >> >> you cook. >> >> In nothern Italy we use boar stew, cooked in red wine. With grilled >> >> polenta >> >> is wonderful! With The sauce of the meat we season pasta (Fettuccine, >> >> ravioli, pappardelle, etc). >> >> Cheers >> >> Pandora >> >> >> >> >> > >> > Yes, there are both feral (domestic) wild pigs and true wild boars >> > known >> > as "Javalina". I know they are around here but I've never tried it. :-) >> >> Ohhh! It is a very pity! You don't know what you loose. >> We often use wild boar salami. Very good taste! >> Cheers >> Pandora >> >> > > It's a matter of paying the hunting leases. :-) > All the land in Texas is privately owned! There really is no place to > hunt without paying those hunting lease fees and that can be VERY > expensive! Ohhhh! But hunter? We have hunter that hunt animals and then sell to the butcher. I ate who kill the animals, but here wild boars goes in private gardens and layed fields!!! Pandora |
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > ha scritto nel messaggio ... > In article >, > "Pandora" > wrote: > >> "*JimH*" > ha scritto nel messaggio >> ... >> > >> > "Pandora" > wrote in message >> > ... >> >>I would like to know if in Us there are wild boars; if you eat them and >> >>how you cook. >> >> In nothern Italy we use boar stew, cooked in red wine. With grilled >> >> polenta is wonderful! With The sauce of the meat we season pasta >> >> (Fettuccine, ravioli, pappardelle, etc). >> >> Cheers >> >> Pandora >> >> >> > >> > In my best Bubba voice (Forrest Gump)............ >> What is Bubba voice? >> >> wild boar kabobs, >> wild boar and shrimp, >> >> I don't think that you can eat wild boar with shrimps !!!!))) >> >> wild boar grilled, wild boar cooked, >> breaded wild boar, >> >> Breaded WB? > > He's just teasing Pandora! <lol> > That's a takeoff from the movie "Forrest Gump". > >> >> deep >> > fried wild boar, marinated wild boar, sun dried wild boar, zesty wild >> > boar.................................. :-) >> > >> > Yes, there are wild boar in the US but it is something not normally on >> > the >> > menu. >> >> Here you can find Wb on the mountains menu. >> > >> > I would imagine it tastes like pork but gamey.....is that correct? >> >> I don't know what "gamey" does mean? > > Gamey. Hmmmmmm... hard to describe but older wild animals, even deer, > tend to have a "wild game" taste that is unique. Some people don't like > it, but specific marinading techniques can control it somewhat. Yes. Thank you I understand now what it means! Pandora |
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"modom" > ha scritto nel messaggio ... > On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 16:35:11 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet > > wrote: > >>In article >, >> "Pandora" > wrote: >> >>> I would like to know if in Us there are wild boars; if you eat them and >>> how >>> you cook. >>> In nothern Italy we use boar stew, cooked in red wine. With grilled >>> polenta >>> is wonderful! With The sauce of the meat we season pasta (Fettuccine, >>> ravioli, pappardelle, etc). >>> Cheers >>> Pandora >>> >>> >> >>Yes, there are both feral (domestic) wild pigs and true wild boars known >>as "Javalina". I know they are around here but I've never tried it. :-) > > Folks tell me that one is almost never hungry enough to eat javalina. > They taste that bad. > > Here in northeast Texas feral hogs are common enough to be a problem. > They are hunted for their meat and to reduce their population. They > can really mess up one's corn crop or pasture land fast. While most > hunters kill them in the field, some take them alive so they can be > butchered according to health department code for the upscale > restaurant trade in Dallas. The latter hunters share some > characteristics in common with Bat Man. And I don't mean their > fabulous wealth. A wild hog is capable of eating a hunter. We have also problems with wild boars which waste fields. Pandora > > > modom |
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Allan Matthews wrote: > > > I shot one in North Carolina several years ago...meat was so rank no > even the dog would eat it. Really bad. > > I was coming home once after a gambling trip to Cherokee and was just a mile or two outside of town. We saw something on the lefthand side of the road grazing and snuffling along and thought from a distance it was a dog. As we got close to it we saw it was a wild boar and we didn't slow down one bit!! No pulling off the side of the road that day to make pictures! |
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On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 21:25:37 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
> wrote: >In article >, > Allan Matthews > wrote: > >> On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 23:17:01 +0200, "Pandora" > >> wrote: >> >> >I would like to know if in Us there are wild boars; if you eat them and how >> >you cook. >> >In nothern Italy we use boar stew, cooked in red wine. With grilled polenta >> >is wonderful! With The sauce of the meat we season pasta (Fettuccine, >> >ravioli, pappardelle, etc). >> >Cheers >> >Pandora >> >> I shot one in North Carolina several years ago...meat was so rank no >> even the dog would eat it. Really bad. >> > >> > >Was it bled out properly when it was killed? >That's pretty important. Yes, Guided hunt...bled out , field dressed immediately and packed in ice. Found out later that a domestic boar, as an adult, is also rank and the large ones are used for pepperoni only. Nearly all male piglets are casterated very young. > >Proper marinating can also take care of that somewhat I'm told? |
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In article >,
modom > wrote: > On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 16:35:11 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet > > wrote: > > >In article >, > > "Pandora" > wrote: > > > >> I would like to know if in Us there are wild boars; if you eat them and > >> how > >> you cook. > >> In nothern Italy we use boar stew, cooked in red wine. With grilled > >> polenta > >> is wonderful! With The sauce of the meat we season pasta (Fettuccine, > >> ravioli, pappardelle, etc). > >> Cheers > >> Pandora > >> > >> > > > >Yes, there are both feral (domestic) wild pigs and true wild boars known > >as "Javalina". I know they are around here but I've never tried it. :-) > > Folks tell me that one is almost never hungry enough to eat javalina. > They taste that bad. > > Here in northeast Texas feral hogs are common enough to be a problem. > They are hunted for their meat and to reduce their population. They > can really mess up one's corn crop or pasture land fast. While most > hunters kill them in the field, some take them alive so they can be > butchered according to health department code for the upscale > restaurant trade in Dallas. The latter hunters share some > characteristics in common with Bat Man. And I don't mean their > fabulous wealth. A wild hog is capable of eating a hunter. > > > modom That's what tree or standing blinds are for. ;-) -- Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 11:36:42 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
> wrote: >In article >, > modom > wrote: > >> On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 16:35:11 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet >> > wrote: >> >> >In article >, >> > "Pandora" > wrote: >> > I've hunted boar twice, once in Texas and once in Oklahoma . It's been about 20 years or so ago. Both times I used an 80lb draw longbow and boar spear. I prefer traditional hunting on foot or horseback. The one(and only) boar I bagged took 3 days to track and find before I had a chance at him. He weighed in around 150-175 lbs, not a giant but at ground level he looked like as big and mean as a T-Rex to me. Maybe before I get to old I'll try a deer hunt again that way and actually get one. I really enjoy the solitude and challenge. |
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 10:35:46 GMT, Allan Matthews
> wrote: >On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 21:25:37 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet > wrote: > >>In article >, >> Allan Matthews > wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 23:17:01 +0200, "Pandora" > >>> wrote: >>> >>> >I would like to know if in Us there are wild boars; if you eat them and how >>> >you cook. >>> >In nothern Italy we use boar stew, cooked in red wine. With grilled polenta >>> >is wonderful! With The sauce of the meat we season pasta (Fettuccine, >>> >ravioli, pappardelle, etc). >>> >Cheers >>> >Pandora >>> >>> I shot one in North Carolina several years ago...meat was so rank no >>> even the dog would eat it. Really bad. >>> > >>> >> >>Was it bled out properly when it was killed? >>That's pretty important. >Yes, Guided hunt...bled out , field dressed immediately and packed in >ice. Found out later that a domestic boar, as an adult, is also rank >and the large ones are used for pepperoni only. Nearly all male >piglets are casterated very young. You are what you eat. The taste of any animal is greatly affected by its diet and diet will change over the course of the seasons - I can tell when a deer has been eating lots of acorns. The second thing to be careful of is dressing the animal. You have to be very careful of the scent glands. I quick search turned up the following site with some tips: http://www.fishersnet.com/prep.html |
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In article >,
Robert Klute > wrote: > On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 10:35:46 GMT, Allan Matthews > > wrote: > > >On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 21:25:37 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet > > wrote: > > > >>In article >, > >> Allan Matthews > wrote: > >> > >>> On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 23:17:01 +0200, "Pandora" > > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> >I would like to know if in Us there are wild boars; if you eat them and > >>> >how > >>> >you cook. > >>> >In nothern Italy we use boar stew, cooked in red wine. With grilled > >>> >polenta > >>> >is wonderful! With The sauce of the meat we season pasta (Fettuccine, > >>> >ravioli, pappardelle, etc). > >>> >Cheers > >>> >Pandora > >>> > >>> I shot one in North Carolina several years ago...meat was so rank no > >>> even the dog would eat it. Really bad. > >>> > > >>> > >> > >>Was it bled out properly when it was killed? > >>That's pretty important. > >Yes, Guided hunt...bled out , field dressed immediately and packed in > >ice. Found out later that a domestic boar, as an adult, is also rank > >and the large ones are used for pepperoni only. Nearly all male > >piglets are casterated very young. > > You are what you eat. The taste of any animal is greatly affected by > its diet and diet will change over the course of the seasons - I can > tell when a deer has been eating lots of acorns. > > The second thing to be careful of is dressing the animal. You have to > be very careful of the scent glands. I quick search turned up the > following site with some tips: http://www.fishersnet.com/prep.html > Neat site! :-) It would be nice to have pictures of where these scent glands are... With squirrel, they forgot to mention that squirrels tend to shed like fury when they are being skinned! If you wet the entire carcass prior to dressing it, that totally prevents this problem and keeps you from ending up with a hairy, inedible carcass. Those are delicious cooked fresh. Skin, gut, remove head, tail and feet and quarter with a pair of poultry shears or a cleaver. Cook on medium heat in a skillet with EVOO and a little salt free lemon pepper, or pepper and salt to taste. They have a delicate flavor and are very tender so don't over-spice... Porcupine. It's been years (I was a very young child when dad used to hunt porcupine on hunting trips) but mom just used to stew it over the campfire and I remember it being very good. :-) -- Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 13:32:13 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
> wrote: snipped >Cook on medium heat in a skillet with EVOO Ack, there's that word again |
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On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 07:58:14 +0200, "Pandora" >
wrote: > >"Curly Sue" > ha scritto nel messaggio ... >> On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 23:17:01 +0200, "Pandora" > >> wrote: >> >>>I would like to know if in Us there are wild boars; if you eat them and >>>how >>>you cook. >>>In nothern Italy we use boar stew, cooked in red wine. With grilled >>>polenta >>>is wonderful! With The sauce of the meat we season pasta (Fettuccine, >>>ravioli, pappardelle, etc). >>>Cheers >>>Pandora >> >> I had it once at a local restaurant, Po, in a sauce for pappardelle. >> But it's not very common. > >Did you appreciate the taste, or not? >Pandora > It was fine but didn't knock my socks off. I was more interested in the pasta :> Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! |
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In my restaurants, we served wild game meats. Lion, hippo, bear, boar,
venison, llama, elk and like that. They are commercially available as long as they're not endangered. I bought boar hams - the hind legs - and cured them like country hams, except, since I wasn't looking for a full-cure, for only a month. When they were ready, I soaked them in apple juice for 24 hours to get salt out and moisture back in, and then roasted them slowly over apple-wood fires. Made a pan gravy with the drippings. We served it thinly sliced over a bed of sauteed apples (local golden delicious and Granny Smith) with a small dribble of the gravy. One other way I did them was to bone them out and butterfly them one more fold open. I laid orange slices (very thin, peel and all) inside the opened cut. Topped that with very thin slices of country ham and finely chopped dried cranberries. Rolled them up from the hock, tied and roasted at 205°F in a conventional oven until the meat was at 155°F and pulled it to rest. Sliced about 1/2-inch thick. Napped the plate with a demi-glace made with boar stock made with the bones of other legs and meat trimmings. Served it with pears and fresh cranberries over a risotto made with dried fruit. It was the "Lion Loin Chops" that got the most comment. Pastorio |
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"Bob (this one)" > wrote in message
... > In my restaurants, we served wild game meats. Lion, hippo, bear, boar, > venison, llama, elk and like that. They are commercially available as long > as they're not endangered. > > I bought boar hams - the hind legs - and cured them like country hams, > except, since I wasn't looking for a full-cure, for only a month. When > they were ready, I soaked them in apple juice for 24 hours to get salt out > and moisture back in, and then roasted them slowly over apple-wood fires. > Made a pan gravy with the drippings. We served it thinly sliced over a bed > of sauteed apples (local golden delicious and Granny Smith) with a small > dribble of the gravy. > > One other way I did them was to bone them out and butterfly them one more > fold open. I laid orange slices (very thin, peel and all) inside the > opened cut. Topped that with very thin slices of country ham and finely > chopped dried cranberries. Rolled them up from the hock, tied and roasted > at 205°F in a conventional oven until the meat was at 155°F and pulled it > to rest. Sliced about 1/2-inch thick. Napped the plate with a demi-glace > made with boar stock made with the bones of other legs and meat trimmings. > Served it with pears and fresh cranberries over a risotto made with dried > fruit. > > It was the "Lion Loin Chops" that got the most comment. > Here's a recipe that treats a fresh ham in a way that imitates wild boar. I do not know how much it really tastes like wild boar but it sure is delicious. http://www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm#Ro...%20Wild%20Boar -- Peter Aitken Visit my recipe and kitchen myths page at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm |
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"Curly Sue" > ha scritto nel messaggio ... > On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 07:58:14 +0200, "Pandora" > > wrote: > >> >>"Curly Sue" > ha scritto nel messaggio ... >>> On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 23:17:01 +0200, "Pandora" > >>> wrote: >>> >>>>I would like to know if in Us there are wild boars; if you eat them and >>>>how >>>>you cook. >>>>In nothern Italy we use boar stew, cooked in red wine. With grilled >>>>polenta >>>>is wonderful! With The sauce of the meat we season pasta (Fettuccine, >>>>ravioli, pappardelle, etc). >>>>Cheers >>>>Pandora >>> >>> I had it once at a local restaurant, Po, in a sauce for pappardelle. >>> But it's not very common. >> >>Did you appreciate the taste, or not? >>Pandora >> > It was fine but didn't knock my socks off. I was more interested in > the pasta :> > > Sue(tm) > Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! I love pasta, too. Pandora |
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Wild boar is sometimes hunted in California and served
at restaurants around here. Normally, it is just slighty gamey, otherwise tastes like everyday pork (which is what it is, just escaped). I'm sure though that killing/bleeding/hanging techniques affect the result. A rancher I know explained it: either let it age a few days after killing; or bleed it slowly (a "stuck pig"); or the meat has the texture of jelly if you just kill and cook and eat. Taste is fine, but the mouth feel is icky. "Stuck pigs" were hung on infamous Catherine Wheels invented in slaughterhouses in Chicago when that city was just getting its bearings. When I lived in Italy, I would hear them screaming from the country farms down the hill from our villa. There is no more godawful a sound, enough to send many people to deciding to become vegan. Steve |
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"Steve Pope" > ha scritto nel messaggio ... > Wild boar is sometimes hunted in California and served > at restaurants around here. Normally, it is just slighty > gamey, otherwise tastes like everyday pork (which is what > it is, just escaped). > > I'm sure though that killing/bleeding/hanging techniques > affect the result. A rancher I know explained it: either > let it age a few days after killing; or bleed it slowly > (a "stuck pig"); or the meat has the texture of jelly if > you just kill and cook and eat. Taste is fine, but the > mouth feel is icky. Yes! It's true. > > "Stuck pigs" were hung on infamous Catherine Wheels invented > in slaughterhouses in Chicago when that city was just getting > its bearings. When I lived in Italy, I would hear them > screaming from the country farms down the hill from our villa. > There is no more godawful a sound, enough to send many people > to deciding to become vegan. Ohhhh! poor animals! Pandora |
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Steve Pope wrote:
> Wild boar is sometimes hunted in California and served > at restaurants around here. Normally, it is just slighty > gamey, otherwise tastes like everyday pork (which is what > it is, just escaped). That's not a wild boar, it's a feral pig. True boars taste very gamy and the texture of the meat is sufficiently distinctive to be obviously different. It's closer-grained and chewier when done to the same doneness as commercial pork or feral pigs. Flavors significantly richer. Male domesticated pigs are called "boars," but that's merely a statement of its sex. If castrated, it's called a "barrow." > I'm sure though that killing/bleeding/hanging techniques > affect the result. A rancher I know explained it: either > let it age a few days after killing; or bleed it slowly > (a "stuck pig"); "Sticking" a pig means to kill it, nothing about bleeding it slowly. One sticks a pig after stunning it (head shot with a 22 or big hammer) by cutting an incision just above the breastbone and sticking the knife down behind the bone and severing the arteries there. Pull the pig up to hang by the hind feet and let the blood come out into a bucket. Pigs and other animals for slaughter are specifically not bled slowly. That would create fear and anxiety in them, and trigger adrenalin production. That makes meat taste bad. Ask any hunter about that. Adult boars, and sows (adult females) in heat also aren't slaughtered because the meat will taste musky. A pig ready for slaughter is best between 8 and 10 months old and up near 180 pounds. Best are castrated males and gilts (young females). > or the meat has the texture of jelly if > you just kill and cook and eat. Taste is fine, but the > mouth feel is icky. I've been to dozens of hog killings and never seen or heard of anything like this. Some meats benefit from aging, pork isn't one, and commercial pork isn't deliberately aged beyond shipping times. Around here, at the end of Fall and the beginning of Winter, farmers kill and butcher hogs. The usual rule of thumb is that the temperature outside should be below 40°F and above 20°F. And even then, they often set up ice water brines to cool the carcass quickly. They discard very little and package the rest. Some of the packaging includes making sausages and what is called variously (depending on minor differences) pan haas, pon hoss, scrapple, pudding or whatever. Some is cooked (and often, eaten) on the spot to make still other dishes. The rest is wrapped and frozen or cured or dried or whatever. No one deliberately ages any of it. Feasting on pork dishes happens that day. The meat is wonderful, not like jelly. I've never seen that in all these years. > "Stuck pigs" were hung on infamous Catherine Wheels invented > in slaughterhouses in Chicago when that city was just getting > its bearings. I find that difficult to believe. I just checked Mother Earth News and a book called "Basic Butchering of Livestock and Game" by Mettler, a veterinarian. They flatly disagree with this notion of slow bleeding, as does my experience. > When I lived in Italy, I would hear them > screaming from the country farms down the hill from our villa. > There is no more godawful a sound, enough to send many people > to deciding to become vegan. I live in a rural area where livestock - cattle, pigs, sheep, goats, ostriches, llamas - are very common. I've lived in other countries in similar areas. Never have I encountered this, heard of it or seen any reference to it before this post. I don't believe any of it. Pastorio |
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