There was a thread here recently about chicken (or maybe it was veal)
*parmesan*. I always thought the correct term was *parmigiana*. Am I
wrong? Are the terms synonymous or are they two separate dishes? If
separate, does anybody know the derivation of the two words?

TIA, Jack
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cruciverbalist wrote:
> There was a thread here recently about chicken (or maybe it was veal)
> *parmesan*. I always thought the correct term was *parmigiana*. Am I
> wrong? Are the terms synonymous or are they two separate dishes? If
> separate, does anybody know the derivation of the two words?
>
> TIA, Jack


Parmesan is the English version of the Italian parmigiano/a.
The derivation is "from" or "in the style of" Parma, an
Italian comunity in the region of Emilia-Romagna.

gloria P

cruciverbalist > wrote:

> There was a thread here recently about chicken (or maybe it was veal)
> *parmesan*. I always thought the correct term was *parmigiana*. Am I
> wrong? Are the terms synonymous or are they two separate dishes? If
> separate, does anybody know the derivation of the two words?

"Parmesan" is just an English (and some other languages) spelling of
"Parmigiano (Reggiano)". The name drives from "Parma" and "Reggio
Emilia", in the general region of which the cheese is produced.

Victor

"Victor Sack" > wrote in message
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> cruciverbalist > wrote:
>
>> There was a thread here recently about chicken (or maybe it was veal)
>> *parmesan*. I always thought the correct term was *parmigiana*. Am I
>> wrong? Are the terms synonymous or are they two separate dishes? If
>> separate, does anybody know the derivation of the two words?
>
> "Parmesan" is just an English (and some other languages) spelling of
> "Parmigiano (Reggiano)". The name drives from "Parma" and "Reggio
> Emilia", in the general region of which the cheese is produced.
>
> Victor

And, as you probably already know, there is no substitute for the genuine
article.


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Peter Aitken wrote:

>
> > "Parmesan" is just an English (and some other languages) spelling of
> > "Parmigiano (Reggiano)". The name drives from "Parma" and "Reggio
> > Emilia", in the general region of which the cheese is produced.
> >
> > Victor
>
> And, as you probably already know, there is no substitute for the genuine
> article.

When I discovered freshly grated Parmesan there was no going back to the
canned crap. Due to the high cost of the real McCoy Parmigiano Reggiano I
tried a local made "Parmesan" cheese. It was about half the price, but I was
not impressed with it and went back to the real stuff.

Peter Aitken > wrote:

> And, as you probably already know, there is no substitute for the genuine
> article.

Actually, there is. Grana padano and Parmigiano Reggiano are very
similar and sometimes indistinguishable, especially artisanal Grana
padano labelled "di testa", meaning it has been made between April and
June when the cows are feeding on fresh grass.

Victor

"Victor Sack" > wrote in message
.. .
> Peter Aitken > wrote:
>
>> And, as you probably already know, there is no substitute for the genuine
>> article.
>
> Actually, there is. Grana padano and Parmigiano Reggiano are very
> similar and sometimes indistinguishable, especially artisanal Grana
> padano labelled "di testa", meaning it has been made between April and
> June when the cows are feeding on fresh grass.
>
> Victor

Well, then it *is* the genuine article! I was referring more to the
"parmesan" cheese made in the US.


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Victor Sack wrote:
> Peter Aitken > wrote:
>
> > And, as you probably already know, there is no substitute for the
genuine
> > article.
>
> Actually, there is. Grana padano and Parmigiano Reggiano are very
> similar and sometimes indistinguishable, especially artisanal Grana
> padano labelled "di testa", meaning it has been made between April
and
> June when the cows are feeding on fresh grass.
>
> Victor

Especially indistinguishable when permitted to dry enough for grating
(improper storage), and most especially indistinguishable when
cooked... unless you're going to eat Parmigiano Reggiano as a table
cheese you're essentially wasting your money... sprinkling grated
Parmigiano Reggiano on a dish of pasta is tantamount to blending top
shelf Scotch with Sour Mix. Unless your cheese purveyor cuts your
wedge of Parmigiano Reggiano from the wheel directly in front of you
don't buy it... pre-cut Parmigiano Reggiano is an abomination.

Sheldon

Parmesan cheese, Hard cheese, rich sharp flavor.

Parmigiana, is a term used describing food that is made or cooked with
Parmesan Cheese.
Bob

> wrote in message
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> Parmesan cheese, Hard cheese, rich sharp flavor.
>
> Parmigiana, is a term used describing food that is made or cooked with
> Parmesan Cheese.
> Bob
>
>

In Italian the cheese is called parmesiano (strictly parmesiano-reggiano).


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Peter Aitken wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Parmesan cheese, Hard cheese, rich sharp flavor.
>>
>>Parmigiana, is a term used describing food that is made or cooked with
>>Parmesan Cheese.
>>Bob
>>
> In Italian the cheese is called parmesiano (strictly parmesiano-reggiano).

Sorry. No. Parmigiano is the Italian name for the cheese. Or
Parmigiano-Reggiano

Parmigiana means a female from Parma or foods cooked in the style of Parma.

Pastorio

"Bob (this one)" > wrote in message
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> Peter Aitken wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>Parmesan cheese, Hard cheese, rich sharp flavor.
>>>
>>>Parmigiana, is a term used describing food that is made or cooked with
>>>Parmesan Cheese.
>>>Bob
>>>
>> In Italian the cheese is called parmesiano (strictly
>> parmesiano-reggiano).
>
> Sorry. No. Parmigiano is the Italian name for the cheese. Or
> Parmigiano-Reggiano
>
> Parmigiana means a female from Parma or foods cooked in the style of
> Parma.
>
> Pastorio

Whoops, right you are.


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wrote:

> Parmesan cheese, Hard cheese, rich sharp flavor.
>
> Parmigiana, is a term used describing food that is made or cooked with
> Parmesan Cheese.

That could be because Parmigiana is the name of the cheese that we usually
call Parmesan.