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I came late to the 15-bean chili party, so I must have missed the recipe,
and Google just tells me to start with "15-bean soup mix." Can anyone tell me what the 15 beans are? FIFTEEN? I would be hard-pressed to think of 15 (dried, I assume) beans, let alone find them in my markets. Can someone enlighten me? Felice |
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![]() Felice Friese wrote: > I came late to the 15-bean chili party, so I must have missed the recipe, > and Google just tells me to start with "15-bean soup mix." Can anyone tell > me what the 15 beans are? FIFTEEN? I would be hard-pressed to think of 15 > (dried, I assume) beans, let alone find them in my markets. Can someone > enlighten me? > > Felice >From the Hurst Beans website here is a list of the "beans": Northern, Pinto, Large Lima, Blackeye, Garbanzo, Baby Lima, Green Split Pea, Kidney, Cranberry Bean, Small White, Pink Bean, Small Red, Yellow Split Pea, Lentil, Navy, White Kidney, Black Bean, Pearl Barley. http://hurstbeans.com/nutrition.htm Not all are "beans". Some of the 15 are peas, barley and lentils. Rusty |
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"Rusty" > wrote in message
ups.com... > > Felice Friese wrote: >> I came late to the 15-bean chili party, so I must have missed the > recipe, >> and Google just tells me to start with "15-bean soup mix." Can > anyone tell >> me what the 15 beans are? FIFTEEN? I would be hard-pressed to think > of 15 >> (dried, I assume) beans, let alone find them in my markets. Can > someone >> enlighten me? >> >> Felice > >>From the Hurst Beans website here is a list of the "beans": > > Northern, Pinto, Large Lima, Blackeye, Garbanzo, Baby Lima, Green Split > Pea, Kidney, Cranberry Bean, Small White, Pink Bean, Small Red, Yellow > Split Pea, Lentil, Navy, White Kidney, Black Bean, Pearl Barley. > > http://hurstbeans.com/nutrition.htm > > Not all are "beans". Some of the 15 are peas, barley and lentils. What a blatant gimmick. Can anyone with an ounce of intelligence believe for a moment that having all these "bean" varieties makes it better? No. -- Peter Aitken Remove the crap from my email address before using. |
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![]() Peter Aitken wrote: > "Rusty" > wrote in message > ups.com... > > > > Felice Friese wrote: > >> I came late to the 15-bean chili party, so I must have missed the > > recipe, > >> and Google just tells me to start with "15-bean soup mix." Can > > anyone tell > >> me what the 15 beans are? FIFTEEN? I would be hard-pressed to think > > of 15 > >> (dried, I assume) beans, let alone find them in my markets. Can > > someone > >> enlighten me? > >> > >> Felice > > > >>From the Hurst Beans website here is a list of the "beans": > > > > Northern, Pinto, Large Lima, Blackeye, Garbanzo, Baby Lima, Green Split > > Pea, Kidney, Cranberry Bean, Small White, Pink Bean, Small Red, Yellow > > Split Pea, Lentil, Navy, White Kidney, Black Bean, Pearl Barley. > > > > http://hurstbeans.com/nutrition.htm > > > > Not all are "beans". Some of the 15 are peas, barley and lentils. > > What a blatant gimmick. Can anyone with an ounce of intelligence believe for > a moment that having all these "bean" varieties makes it better? > > No. > > > -- > Peter Aitken My guess would be, no matter how you cook them, some will be over done and some will be under done. A large dried lima bean and a small dried pearl barly or lentil can't have the same cooking requirements. Rusty Rusty |
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On Thu 14 Apr 2005 04:56:36p, Peter Aitken wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> "Rusty" > wrote in message > ups.com... >> >> Felice Friese wrote: >>> I came late to the 15-bean chili party, so I must have missed the >>> recipe, and Google just tells me to start with "15-bean soup mix." >>> Can anyone tell me what the 15 beans are? FIFTEEN? I would be >>> hard-pressed to think of 15 (dried, I assume) beans, let alone find >>> them in my markets. Can someone enlighten me? >>> >>> Felice >> >>>From the Hurst Beans website here is a list of the "beans": >> >> Northern, Pinto, Large Lima, Blackeye, Garbanzo, Baby Lima, Green Split >> Pea, Kidney, Cranberry Bean, Small White, Pink Bean, Small Red, Yellow >> Split Pea, Lentil, Navy, White Kidney, Black Bean, Pearl Barley. >> >> http://hurstbeans.com/nutrition.htm >> >> Not all are "beans". Some of the 15 are peas, barley and lentils. > > What a blatant gimmick. Can anyone with an ounce of intelligence believe > for a moment that having all these "bean" varieties makes it better? > > No. OTOH, does it make it worse? No. -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* ____________________________________________ Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day. Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974 |
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A little birdie told me that "Rusty" > said:
>My guess would be, no matter how you cook them, some will be over done >and some will be under done. A large dried lima bean and a small dried >pearl barly or lentil can't have the same cooking requirements. Yup. Some of the smaller peas just became thickeners for the soup. Carol -- Coming at you live, from beautiful Lake Woebegon |
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![]() "Rusty" > wrote in message ups.com... > > Felice Friese wrote: >> I came late to the 15-bean chili party, so I must have missed the > recipe, >> and Google just tells me to start with "15-bean soup mix." Can > anyone tell >> me what the 15 beans are? FIFTEEN? I would be hard-pressed to think > of 15 >> (dried, I assume) beans, let alone find them in my markets. Can > someone >> enlighten me? >> >> Felice > >>From the Hurst Beans website here is a list of the "beans": > > Northern, Pinto, Large Lima, Blackeye, Garbanzo, Baby Lima, Green Split > Pea, Kidney, Cranberry Bean, Small White, Pink Bean, Small Red, Yellow > Split Pea, Lentil, Navy, White Kidney, Black Bean, Pearl Barley. > > http://hurstbeans.com/nutrition.htm > > Not all are "beans". Some of the 15 are peas, barley and lentils. > > Rusty OK, here's my take on it. The ingredient lists on Hurst's website says the packages contain 15 of 18 listed beans, etc. I figure at the end of the day, after they've bagged all 18 varieties individually, they toss all the leftovers -- an ounce of this, an ounce of that -- into the 15-bean bags. Me, I'll just stick with one-of-a-kind, one-at-a-time. Felice |
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On Thu 14 Apr 2005 08:30:20p, Felice Friese wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > "Rusty" > wrote in message > ups.com... >> >> Felice Friese wrote: >>> I came late to the 15-bean chili party, so I must have missed the >>> recipe, and Google just tells me to start with "15-bean soup mix." >>> Can anyone tell me what the 15 beans are? FIFTEEN? I would be >>> hard-pressed to think of 15 (dried, I assume) beans, let alone find >>> them in my markets. Can someone enlighten me? >>> >>> Felice >> >>>From the Hurst Beans website here is a list of the "beans": >> >> Northern, Pinto, Large Lima, Blackeye, Garbanzo, Baby Lima, Green Split >> Pea, Kidney, Cranberry Bean, Small White, Pink Bean, Small Red, Yellow >> Split Pea, Lentil, Navy, White Kidney, Black Bean, Pearl Barley. >> >> http://hurstbeans.com/nutrition.htm >> >> Not all are "beans". Some of the 15 are peas, barley and lentils. >> >> Rusty > > OK, here's my take on it. The ingredient lists on Hurst's website says > the packages contain 15 of 18 listed beans, etc. I figure at the end of > the day, after they've bagged all 18 varieties individually, they toss > all the leftovers -- an ounce of this, an ounce of that -- into the > 15-bean bags. > > Me, I'll just stick with one-of-a-kind, one-at-a-time. > > Felice Years ago I tried one of these packages, not this brand and probably not 15 beans, maybe 10 or 12. As I recall, it made a good soup, but nothing out of the ordinary. I have since made multi-bean and grain soups, but it was my own combination, adding beans, peas, and grains from individual packages. I liked the results. It's also easier to control the different cooking rates of the ingredients, adding quicker cooking items like lentils, peas, barley, etc., later in the process. I almost always cook bean soups with a ham bone or ham stock and sometimes add sausage. I don't like "brothy" soups, so will deliberately allow some quicker cooking varieties to cook to mushiness to thicken the soup. -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* ____________________________________________ Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day. Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974 |
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![]() "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message ... > Years ago I tried one of these packages, not this brand and probably not > 15 > beans, maybe 10 or 12. As I recall, it made a good soup, but nothing out > of the ordinary. I have since made multi-bean and grain soups, but it was > my own combination, adding beans, peas, and grains from individual > packages. I liked the results. It's also easier to control the different > cooking rates of the ingredients, adding quicker cooking items like > lentils, peas, barley, etc., later in the process. I almost always cook > bean soups with a ham bone or ham stock and sometimes add sausage. I > don't > like "brothy" soups, so will deliberately allow some quicker cooking > varieties to cook to mushiness to thicken the soup. > -- > Wayne Boatwright *¿* Now that you mention it, Wayne, I have a bean recipe that recommends pureeing some of the cooked beans and pitching them back in the pot to thicken the finished dish. And a ham bone always helps. In my starving days in Greenwich Village I used to pop into the kitchen of the neighborhood pub and beg for their ham bones (they made a mean ham sammich) for my weekly pot of pea soup. Felice |
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Peter Aitken wrote:
> > "Rusty" > wrote in message > ups.com... > > > > Felice Friese wrote: > >> I came late to the 15-bean chili party, so I must have missed the > > recipe, > >> and Google just tells me to start with "15-bean soup mix." Can > > anyone tell > >> me what the 15 beans are? FIFTEEN? I would be hard-pressed to think > > of 15 > >> (dried, I assume) beans, let alone find them in my markets. Can > > someone > >> enlighten me? > >> > >> Felice > > > >>From the Hurst Beans website here is a list of the "beans": > > > > Northern, Pinto, Large Lima, Blackeye, Garbanzo, Baby Lima, Green Split > > Pea, Kidney, Cranberry Bean, Small White, Pink Bean, Small Red, Yellow > > Split Pea, Lentil, Navy, White Kidney, Black Bean, Pearl Barley. > > > > http://hurstbeans.com/nutrition.htm Hey, that's cheating! Large limas and small limas are still just limas! Sheesh! > > Not all are "beans". Some of the 15 are peas, barley and lentils. > > What a blatant gimmick. Can anyone with an ounce of intelligence believe for > a moment that having all these "bean" varieties makes it better? Maybe not better but interesting and pretty to look at. I don't see it as a gimmick at all. And each bean has it's own different flavor. I've made it a time or two many years ago. I never could understand though how to get all those different things cooked properly if you dump them in all at the same time. Sure they use the smaller versions of things like kidney beans, etc., but there's still no way the lentils and peas aren't going to be over-cooked by the time the kidneys, etc., are done. Kate -- Kate Connally “If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.” Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back, Until you bite their heads off.” What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about? |
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On Fri 15 Apr 2005 09:30:00a, Felice Friese wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message > ... > >> Years ago I tried one of these packages, not this brand and probably >> not 15 beans, maybe 10 or 12. As I recall, it made a good soup, but >> nothing out of the ordinary. I have since made multi-bean and grain >> soups, but it was my own combination, adding beans, peas, and grains >> from individual packages. I liked the results. It's also easier to >> control the different cooking rates of the ingredients, adding quicker >> cooking items like lentils, peas, barley, etc., later in the process. >> I almost always cook bean soups with a ham bone or ham stock and >> sometimes add sausage. I don't like "brothy" soups, so will >> deliberately allow some quicker cooking varieties to cook to mushiness >> to thicken the soup. -- >> Wayne Boatwright *¿* > > Now that you mention it, Wayne, I have a bean recipe that recommends > pureeing some of the cooked beans and pitching them back in the pot to > thicken the finished dish. > > And a ham bone always helps. In my starving days in Greenwich Village I > used to pop into the kitchen of the neighborhood pub and beg for their > ham bones (they made a mean ham sammich) for my weekly pot of pea soup. > > Felice Small world... I once lived on Charles St. near W 4th St., not that far from Bleeker. I think the building I lived in was later a restaurant and still later a furniture store. -- Wayne Boatwright ____________________________________________ Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day. Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974 |
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![]() "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message ... > On Fri 15 Apr 2005 09:30:00a, Felice Friese wrote in rec.food.cooking: >> And a ham bone always helps. In my starving days in Greenwich Village I >> used to pop into the kitchen of the neighborhood pub and beg for their >> ham bones (they made a mean ham sammich) for my weekly pot of pea soup. >> >> Felice > > Small world... I once lived on Charles St. near W 4th St., not that far > from Bleeker. I think the building I lived in was later a restaurant and > still later a furniture store. > -- > Wayne Boatwright Downing Street and Morton Street for me. Waaaay back in the late '40s and '50s. Felice |
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On Fri 15 Apr 2005 01:52:18p, Felice Friese wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message > ... >> On Fri 15 Apr 2005 09:30:00a, Felice Friese wrote in rec.food.cooking: > >>> And a ham bone always helps. In my starving days in Greenwich Village >>> I used to pop into the kitchen of the neighborhood pub and beg for >>> their ham bones (they made a mean ham sammich) for my weekly pot of >>> pea soup. >>> >>> Felice >> >> Small world... I once lived on Charles St. near W 4th St., not that >> far from Bleeker. I think the building I lived in was later a >> restaurant and still later a furniture store. >> -- >> Wayne Boatwright > > Downing Street and Morton Street for me. Waaaay back in the late '40s > and '50s. > > Felice It was the early and mid '60s for me. When I go back to NYC, I sure do miss all the places that are long gone. -- Wayne Boatwright ____________________________________________ Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day. Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974 |
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:00:50 -0400, "Felice Friese"
> wrote: >I came late to the 15-bean chili party, so I must have missed the recipe, >and Google just tells me to start with "15-bean soup mix." Can anyone tell >me what the 15 beans are? FIFTEEN? I would be hard-pressed to think of 15 >(dried, I assume) beans, let alone find them in my markets. Can someone >enlighten me? > Personally, I'd use at least half a bag of dried beans for soup. Fifteen seems a bit light... unless they're really big beans ;> Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! |
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On Fri 15 Apr 2005 03:26:49p, Curly Sue wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:00:50 -0400, "Felice Friese" > > wrote: > >>I came late to the 15-bean chili party, so I must have missed the recipe, >>and Google just tells me to start with "15-bean soup mix." Can anyone >>tell me what the 15 beans are? FIFTEEN? I would be hard-pressed to think >>of 15 (dried, I assume) beans, let alone find them in my markets. Can >>someone enlighten me? >> > > Personally, I'd use at least half a bag of dried beans for soup. > Fifteen seems a bit light... unless they're really big beans ;> Or a very tiny pot. -- Wayne Boatwright ____________________________________________ Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day. Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974 |
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![]() "Curly Sue" > wrote in message ... > On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:00:50 -0400, "Felice Friese" > > wrote: > >>I came late to the 15-bean chili party, so I must have missed the recipe, >>and Google just tells me to start with "15-bean soup mix." Can anyone >>tell >>me what the 15 beans are? FIFTEEN? I would be hard-pressed to think of 15 >>(dried, I assume) beans, let alone find them in my markets. Can someone >>enlighten me? >> > > Personally, I'd use at least half a bag of dried beans for soup. > Fifteen seems a bit light... unless they're really big beans ;> LOL |
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