A recipe of my own creation that tastes pretty darned good.

* Exported from MasterCook *

Black Bean Chili

Recipe By :Carol Peterson
Serving Size : 16 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Beans/Legumes Signature Dishes
Stews/Chilis

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
1 pound ground chuck
2 tablespoons all-purpose flour -- to coat stew meat
1 1/2 pounds beef stew meat -- 1/2" cubes
1 medium onion -- finely chopped
1 medium green pepper -- finely chopped
1 clove garlic -- finely minced
28 ounces canned crushed tomatoes
3 16 ounce cans black beans -- drained
5 teaspoons chili powder
1/4 teaspoon cayenne pepper
1 teaspoon salt
water -- as needed

Brown ground beef and the flour-coated stew meat in a 4-quart saucepan
(start the ground beef first, so there is some fat in the pan to keep
the stew meat from sticking). When meat is browned, add the onion and
green pepper. Cook until the onion is translucent. Add garlic and
cook for aoubt 2 more minutes. Drain off any excess fat. Add
tomatoes, beans, and spices. Cover and simmer for 45 minutes, adding
water if desired. Adjust seasonings and serve.

Serving suggestions:
Saltine crackers or oyster crackers
Shredded cheddar, Monterey jack, or other cheese
Chopped onions

Yield:
"4 quarts"

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Damsel in dis Dress > wrote in
oups.com:

> Add garlic and
> cook for aoubt 2 more minutes.

Please Carol correct the recipe in MC... the 'aoubt' instead of about is
driving me nuts.

--

The house of the burning beet-Alan

It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night-
Elbonian Folklore

On Aug 10, 8:14 am, hahabogus > wrote:
> Damsel in dis Dress > wrote groups.com:
>
> > Add garlic and
> > cook for aoubt 2 more minutes.
>
> Please Carol correct the recipe in MC... the 'aoubt' instead of about is
> driving me nuts.

OOOOOOOOOOOPS! My bad. Gonna correct that right now. LOL!

Thankee!
Carol

Damsel in dis Dress > wrote in
oups.com:

> On Aug 10, 8:14 am, hahabogus > wrote:
>> Damsel in dis Dress > wrote
>> groups.com:
>>
>> > Add garlic and
>> > cook for aoubt 2 more minutes.
>>
>> Please Carol correct the recipe in MC... the 'aoubt' instead of about
>> is driving me nuts.
>
> OOOOOOOOOOOPS! My bad. Gonna correct that right now. LOL!
>
> Thankee!
> Carol
>
>

It was more my problem than yours...but I do thank you.

--

The house of the burning beet-Alan

It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night-
Elbonian Folklore

On Aug 10, 8:29 am, hahabogus > wrote:
> Damsel in dis Dress > wrote groups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 10, 8:14 am, hahabogus > wrote:
> >> Damsel in dis Dress > wrote
> >> groups.com:
>
> >> > Add garlic and
> >> > cook for aoubt 2 more minutes.
>
> >> Please Carol correct the recipe in MC... the 'aoubt' instead of about
> >> is driving me nuts.
>
> > OOOOOOOOOOOPS! My bad. Gonna correct that right now. LOL!
>
> > Thankee!
> > Carol
>
> It was more my problem than yours...but I do thank you.

Any time, sweet cheeks!

Carol

Damsel in dis Dress > wrote in
oups.com:

> Any time, sweet cheeks!
>

I need to ask which cheeks you are referring to?... In my Youth Biker
Chicks complemented me on my ass several times...Have you been peeking?

--

The house of the burning beet-Alan

It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night-
Elbonian Folklore

Damsel in dis Dress wrote:

> A recipe of my own creation that tastes pretty darned good.
>
> * Exported from MasterCook *
>
> Black Bean Chili
>
> Recipe By :Carol Peterson
> Serving Size : 16 Preparation Time :0:00
> Categories : Beans/Legumes Signature Dishes
> Stews/Chilis
>
> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
> -------- ------------ --------------------------------
> 1 pound ground chuck
> 1 1/2 pounds beef stew meat -- 1/2" cubes


My usual comment is that I find it strange to have both ground and
diced beef in the same chili. I do one or the other.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

"Default User" > wrote in news:5i3iqgF3nkbf0U1
@mid.individual.net:

> My usual comment is that I find it strange to have both ground and
> diced beef in the same chili. I do one or the other.
>

Well now you've been shown better.... Even more tasty if you add 1 lb pork
chunks from say a pork butt roast.

--

The house of the burning beet-Alan

It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night-
Elbonian Folklore

hahabogus wrote:

> "Default User" > wrote in news:5i3iqgF3nkbf0U1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
> > My usual comment is that I find it strange to have both ground and
> > diced beef in the same chili. I do one or the other.
> >
>
> Well now you've been shown better

I don't understand this sentence. I've seen that same recipe, and made
the same comments. It seems unlikely to me that a mix of the two would
produce superior results.

> .... Even more tasty if you add 1 lb
> pork chunks from say a pork butt roast.

Pork chunks I'd prefer to use by themselves. Mixing some ground pork
(beer bratwurst is good) with ground beef is is a decent addition.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

Instead of the ground pork or beef, you should try it with Chorizo.
It would go great with the above recipe.

On Aug 10, 2:53 pm, hc > wrote:
> Instead of the ground pork or beef, you should try it with Chorizo.
> It would go great with the above recipe.

Never thought of that. I'll bet that *would* be good.

Thanks!
Carol

On 10 Aug 2007 16:41:52 GMT, "Default User" >
wrote:

>Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>
>> A recipe of my own creation that tastes pretty darned good.
>>
>> * Exported from MasterCook *
>>
>> Black Bean Chili
>>
>> Recipe By :Carol Peterson
>> Serving Size : 16 Preparation Time :0:00
>> Categories : Beans/Legumes Signature Dishes
>> Stews/Chilis
>>
>> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
>> -------- ------------ --------------------------------
>> 1 pound ground chuck
>> 1 1/2 pounds beef stew meat -- 1/2" cubes
>
>
>My usual comment is that I find it strange to have both ground and
>diced beef in the same chili. I do one or the other.
>
>
>
>Brian

it also seems a little underspiced for that much beef and beans. but
i still love you , carol.

your pal,
blake

On Aug 10, 3:00 pm, blake murphy > wrote:
> On 10 Aug 2007 16:41:52 GMT, "Default User" >
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>
> >> A recipe of my own creation that tastes pretty darned good.
>
> >> * Exported from MasterCook *
>
> >> Black Bean Chili
>
> >> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
> >> -------- ------------ --------------------------------
> >> 1 pound ground chuck
> >> 1 1/2 pounds beef stew meat -- 1/2" cubes
>
> >My usual comment is that I find it strange to have both ground and
> >diced beef in the same chili. I do one or the other.
>
> >Brian
>
> it also seems a little underspiced for that much beef and beans. but
> i still love you , carol.

I still love you too, Blake.

Your pal,
Carol

On Aug 10, 11:41 am, "Default User" > wrote:
> Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>
> > * Exported from MasterCook *
>
> > Black Bean Chili
>
> > Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
> > -------- ------------ --------------------------------
> > 1 pound ground chuck
> > 1 1/2 pounds beef stew meat -- 1/2" cubes
>
> My usual comment is that I find it strange to have both ground and
> diced beef in the same chili. I do one or the other.

Duly noted ... again.

Carol

Damsel in dis Dress wrote:

> On Aug 10, 11:41 am, "Default User" > wrote:
> > Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
> >
> > > * Exported from MasterCook *
> >
> > > Black Bean Chili
> >
> > > Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
> > > -------- ------------ --------------------------------
> > > 1 pound ground chuck
> > > 1 1/2 pounds beef stew meat -- 1/2" cubes
> >
> > My usual comment is that I find it strange to have both ground and
> > diced beef in the same chili. I do one or the other.
>
> Duly noted ... again.

Hey, at least it's cooking-related discussion.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

On Aug 10, 4:58 pm, "Default User" > wrote:
> Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 10, 11:41 am, "Default User" > wrote:
> > > Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>
> > > > * Exported from MasterCook *
>
> > > > Black Bean Chili
>
> > > > Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
> > > > -------- ------------ --------------------------------
> > > > 1 pound ground chuck
> > > > 1 1/2 pounds beef stew meat -- 1/2" cubes
>
> > > My usual comment is that I find it strange to have both ground and
> > > diced beef in the same chili. I do one or the other.
>
> > Duly noted ... again.
>
> Hey, at least it's cooking-related discussion.

We can't have THAT, Brian! Quick! Think of something!

I do like the texture combination of the ground and the cubed meats.

The pork idea sounds intriguing, too, but I'm saving that for when I
attempt green chili for the first time. Some day. I've been talking
about it for years. Maybe this will spur me on to action. I want to
try it SO BAD! And I'm assuming that it's SO GOOD! Have you tried
green chili?

Carol, who still gets a kick out of your nick

Damsel in dis Dress > wrote in
ps.com:

> Carol, who still gets a kick out of your nick
>
>

I get a kick from champagne...from a song?

mere alchol doesn't thrill me at all...but I get a kick from champagne.

--

The house of the burning beet-Alan

It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night-
Elbonian Folklore

Damsel in dis Dress wrote:

> On Aug 10, 4:58 pm, "Default User" > wrote:

> Carol, who still gets a kick out of your nick


All the result of procrastination.




Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:06:55 -0700, Damsel in dis Dress
> wrote:


>The pork idea sounds intriguing, too, but I'm saving that for when I
>attempt green chili for the first time. Some day. I've been talking
>about it for years. Maybe this will spur me on to action. I want to
>try it SO BAD! And I'm assuming that it's SO GOOD! Have you tried
>green chili?
>
>Carol, who still gets a kick out of your nick

You want me to send you some green chiles sometime? The new crop of
Hatch chiles are coming in now. One can get them in all degrees of
heat, including mild.

I can get them already roasted. And sometimes frozen. I probably
would have to do an overnight delivery, with dry ice or something like
that. Not sure how to do it, but I know it can be done.

Christine, wishing Carol and Crash could come to the NM cook-in in 3
weeks.

Default User > wrote:

> My usual comment is that I find it strange to have both ground and
> diced beef in the same chili.

It gives a range of textures. It may not be to one's preference, but
strange it ain't, at least not to me. I'm reminded of gazpacho, which
often consists of puréed or very finely chopped vegetables, as well as
the same vegetables diced.

Victor

On Aug 10, 4:53 pm, (Victor Sack) wrote:
> Default User > wrote:
> > My usual comment is that I find it strange to have both ground and
> > diced beef in the same chili.
>
> It gives a range of textures. It may not be to one's preference, but
> strange it ain't, at least not to me. I'm reminded of gazpacho, which
> often consists of puréed or very finely chopped vegetables, as well as
> the same vegetables diced.
>
> Victor

BUBBA!!!! Thankee for the vindication. ROFL! (Have you tried my
chili, kiddo?)

Smoochers!
Carol

Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:

> BUBBA!!!! Thankee for the vindication. ROFL! (Have you tried my
> chili, kiddo?)

Not yet, but it is in my future. I like chili and I like black beans.
I'm planning to omit the green pepper (don't like bell peppers) and add
more chili powder and cayenne pepper. Not sure I'll retain the "chili"
name of the dish, either. ;-)

Bubba

On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 18:48:02 +0200, (Victor Sack)
wrote:

>Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:
>
>> BUBBA!!!! Thankee for the vindication. ROFL! (Have you tried my
>> chili, kiddo?)
>
>Not yet, but it is in my future. I like chili and I like black beans.
>I'm planning to omit the green pepper (don't like bell peppers) and add
>more chili powder and cayenne pepper. Not sure I'll retain the "chili"
>name of the dish, either. ;-)

Oh, so you're one of THEM! I see how it is now. Whatcha gonna call
it? Black bean slop? ROFL!

(Some people are so difficult)
Carol

--
www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini/

Victor Sack wrote:

> Default User > wrote:
>
> > My usual comment is that I find it strange to have both ground and
> > diced beef in the same chili.
>
> It gives a range of textures. It may not be to one's preference, but
> strange it ain't, at least not to me. I'm reminded of gazpacho, which
> often consists of puréed or very finely chopped vegetables, as well as
> the same vegetables diced.

We're talking about chili, not gazpacho. Large variations in texture is
not normally considered a plus.




Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

On Aug 10, 8:53 pm, "Default User" > wrote:
> Victor Sack wrote:
> > Default User > wrote:
>
> > > My usual comment is that I find it strange to have both ground and
> > > diced beef in the same chili.
>
> > It gives a range of textures. It may not be to one's preference, but
> > strange it ain't, at least not to me. I'm reminded of gazpacho, which
> > often consists of puréed or very finely chopped vegetables, as well as
> > the same vegetables diced.
>
> We're talking about chili, not gazpacho. Large variations in texture is
> not normally considered a plus.
>
> Brian

Aw, c'mon. Try it my way, just once.

Carol

Default User > wrote:

> Victor Sack wrote:
>
> > Default User > wrote:
> >
> > > My usual comment is that I find it strange to have both ground and
> > > diced beef in the same chili.
> >
> > It gives a range of textures. It may not be to one's preference, but
> > strange it ain't, at least not to me. I'm reminded of gazpacho, which
> > often consists of puréed or very finely chopped vegetables, as well as
> > the same vegetables diced.
>
> We're talking about chili, not gazpacho. Large variations in texture is
> not normally considered a plus.

You are kind of contradicting yourself. First, you say you find it
strange to have different textures in chili; now you say it is not
normally considered a plus. If it is strange, then who has been
considering all those textures for pluses or minuses and defining them
as normal or not? Are you sure you are not mixing up personal
expectations or preferences and statistics?

Victor

Victor Sack wrote:

> Default User > wrote:
>
> > Victor Sack wrote:

> > > It gives a range of textures. It may not be to one's preference,
> > > but strange it ain't, at least not to me. I'm reminded of
> > > gazpacho, which often consists of puréed or very finely chopped
> > > vegetables, as well as the same vegetables diced.
> >
> > We're talking about chili, not gazpacho. Large variations in
> > texture is not normally considered a plus.
>
> You are kind of contradicting yourself. First, you say you find it
> strange to have different textures in chili; now you say it is not
> normally considered a plus. If it is strange, then who has been
> considering all those textures for pluses or minuses and defining them
> as normal or not? Are you sure you are not mixing up personal
> expectations or preferences and statistics?

There's two things:

1. My personal reaction the texture.

2. The general standard for the dish.

It could well be that in general, a variation in texture is considered
a plus, but that I don't personally care for it. However, in this case
I am agreeing with the general consensus (or at least what I perceive
to be the general consensus).



Brian


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