ROMAN GLADIATORS WERE VEGGIE

Roman gladiators were overweight vegetarians who lived on barley and
beans, according to a scientific study by the University of Vienna of the
largest gladiator graveyard discovered.

Analysis of the bones of more than 70 gladiators recently found near
Ephesus, the Roman capital of Asia Minor, puts paid to traditional
Hollywood images of macho carnivores with the physique of boxers.

Ancient Roman mosaics depict gladiators as stocky, heavy men but
historians have tended to assume this was a tribute to their macho image
rather than a literal depiction of their size.

Karl Grossschmidt, a forensic anthropologist at Vienna University, used
chemical testing on the bones to reveal that gladiators stuck to a diet of
barley and beans to bulk out.

It was a boring diet, he admitted. "They got enough of this food every day
to make them very fat and strong," he said. He concluded that they devised
the diet primarily to protect themselves from slashing wounds and damage
to nerves and blood vessels, with the layer of fat supplementing their
scant armor.

Dr Grossschmidt noticed from the bone analysis that, contrary to the
normal effects of intensive training, the gladiators put on weight before a
fight rather than lost it.

The density of the bone tissue was significantly higher than normal,
exactly what one finds in modern athletes, he said. The bone enlargement
was particularly pronounced in the feet - evidence that gladiators fought
barefoot in the slippery arena sand.

courtesy of http://www.vnv.org.au/VNVUpdate/VNVUpdate-18.htm

God, I love the Internet. Excellent post!

Where else can I experience the finest vegan propaganda delivered right to
my home? I do have to commend you, since I couldn't be laughing harder if
you were doing standup comedy.

Keep fighting the good fight, man. I salute you for entertaining me free of
charge. In fact, I swear to become a vegan on my deathbed just to help prove
all of you were right.

Keep up the good work and, 'til next time...
--

Hasta,
Curt Nelson


"Keith" <withheld@ . > wrote in message ...
>
> ROMAN GLADIATORS WERE VEGGIE
>
> courtesy of http://www.vnv.org.au/VNVUpdate/VNVUpdate-18.htm

> "Keith" <withheld@ . > wrote in message ...
>> ROMAN GLADIATORS WERE VEGGIE
>> courtesy of http://www.vnv.org.au/VNVUpdate/VNVUpdate-18.htm

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 03:39:16 +0000, Curt Nelson wrote:
> Where else can I experience the finest vegan propaganda delivered right to
> my home?

Roman gladiators ate a high carb diet, were overweight, and died young.
VEGAN propaganda?


It's one of those Atkinsians sneaking over from asdl-c, Ibetcha.

Martin
--
Martin Golding | Studies indicate that undernutrition increases lifespan.
DoD #236 | Eat good, die young. Leave a big corpse.

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 04:31:58 GMT, "Martin Golding"
> wrote:

>
> > "Keith" <withheld@ . > wrote in message ...
> >> ROMAN GLADIATORS WERE VEGGIE
> >> courtesy of http://www.vnv.org.au/VNVUpdate/VNVUpdate-18.htm
>
> On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 03:39:16 +0000, Curt Nelson wrote:
> > Where else can I experience the finest vegan propaganda delivered right to
> > my home?
>
> Roman gladiators ate a high carb diet, were overweight, and died young.
> VEGAN propaganda?
>
LOL! You read my thoughts.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

sf > wrote in
:

> On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 04:31:58 GMT, "Martin Golding"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> > "Keith" <withheld@ . > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> ROMAN GLADIATORS WERE VEGGIE
>> >> courtesy of http://www.vnv.org.au/VNVUpdate/VNVUpdate-18.htm
>>
>> On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 03:39:16 +0000, Curt Nelson wrote:
>> > Where else can I experience the finest vegan propaganda delivered
>> > right to my home?
>>
>> Roman gladiators ate a high carb diet, were overweight, and died
>> young. VEGAN propaganda?
>>
> LOL! You read my thoughts.
>
>
> Practice safe eating - always use condiments
>

Don't be silly Gladiators were Slaves. As slaves they were fed the cheapest
food possible. Who cared if they found it boring, or even if they liked it?

--
Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but food
and water.
--------
FIELDS, W. C.

What happened to the Mounty? (yeah yeah you had to be there!)

-Sticks (giggliing hysterically)

>>
>> > "Keith" <withheld@ . > wrote in message ...

>> Roman gladiators ate a high carb diet, were overweight, and died young.
>> VEGAN propaganda?
>>

In article >, Keith <withheld@ . > wrote:
>
>ROMAN GLADIATORS WERE VEGGIE
>
>Roman gladiators were overweight vegetarians who lived on barley and
>beans, according to a scientific study by the University of Vienna of the
>largest gladiator graveyard discovered.

If so, where did they get their vitamin B12?


Chuck Demas

--
Eat Healthy | _ _ | Nothing would be done at all,
Stay Fit | @ @ | If a man waited to do it so well,
Die Anyway | v | That no one could find fault with it.
| \___/ | http://world.std.com/~cpd

>Keith <withheld@ . > wrote:
>>
>>ROMAN GLADIATORS WERE VEGGIE
>>
>>Roman gladiators were overweight vegetarians who lived on barley and
>>beans, according to a scientific study by the University of Vienna of the
>>largest gladiator graveyard discovered.
>
>If so, where did they get their vitamin B12?
>
>
>Chucky Demasinni

Romans are filthy WOPS, they suck peepee and pick pockets.


---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
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Sheldon
````````````
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

>Don't be silly Gladiators were Slaves.

Not quite. They were a professional guild.

On 05 Apr 2004 21:44:59 GMT, (WardNA) wrote:

> >Don't be silly Gladiators were Slaves.
>
> Not quite. They were a professional guild.

Maybe, but only if being a Gladiator was a step up from
their station in free life.



Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 10:12:04 GMT, hahabogus
> wrote:

> sf > wrote in
> :
>
> > On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 04:31:58 GMT, "Martin Golding"
> > > wrote:

> >> Roman gladiators ate a high carb diet, were overweight, and died
> >> young. VEGAN propaganda?
> >>
> > LOL! You read my thoughts.
> >
> >
> > Practice safe eating - always use condiments
> >
>
> Don't be silly Gladiators were Slaves. As slaves they were fed the cheapest
> food possible. Who cared if they found it boring, or even if they liked it?

No one is being silly. That's what they ate and most
Gladiators didn't volunteer, it was a draft.

I laughed because Martin called it "vegan propaganda"...
both of us know there was no choice for the vast majority of
gladiators. Sorry you couldn't understand the (black)
humor.

Get some extra sleep. It will help you get over the time
change.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

Sticks.... I know rich Roman women liked being sticked by
gladiators, but that's OT.

```````````
On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 09:17:16 -0400, sticks
> wrote:

> What happened to the Mounty? (yeah yeah you had to be there!)
>
> -Sticks (giggliing hysterically)
>
> >>
> >> > "Keith" <withheld@ . > wrote in message ...
>
> >> Roman gladiators ate a high carb diet, were overweight, and died young.
> >> VEGAN propaganda?
> >>




Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On 05 Apr 2004 16:11:02 GMT, (PENMART01)
wrote:

>
> Romans are filthy WOPS, they suck peepee and pick pockets.
>

They still pinch women's butts in elevators (I'm not
joking).


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> No one is being silly. That's what they ate and most
> Gladiators didn't volunteer, it was a draft.

I'm pretty sure some people did sell themselves into slavery and become
gladiators. They could buy their way out of slavery again later, if
they had the funds.

Miche

--
If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud.
-- Arlo Guthrie, "Alice's Restaurant"

>> Not quite. They were a professional guild.
>
>Maybe, but only if being a Gladiator was a step up from
>their station in free life.

They were a lot like today's "pro wrestlers," with a full catalogue of fake
moves designed to look riskier than they were; and they understood the etiquet
that, as with the medieval "fight to the utterance," the job entailed putting
up a good show and having one's skill evaluated afterwards--gaining the crowd's
loyalty.

Risk of injury and death was high, but so it was with similar athletes, and a
sense of honor and status conveyed with it, which seems to have been worth the
hazards.

If you don't understand that, you probably won't understand why people become
toreros either.

Neil

On 07 Apr 2004 02:40:18 GMT, (WardNA) wrote:

> >> Not quite. They were a professional guild.
> >
> >Maybe, but only if being a Gladiator was a step up from
> >their station in free life.
>
> They were a lot like today's "pro wrestlers," with a full catalogue of fake
> moves designed to look riskier than they were; and they understood the etiquet
> that, as with the medieval "fight to the utterance," the job entailed putting
> up a good show and having one's skill evaluated afterwards--gaining the crowd's
> loyalty.

Of course, a gladiator would play to the crowd... but he
would also fight for his life. One of them HAD to die.
>
> Risk of injury and death was high, but so it was with similar athletes, and a
> sense of honor and status conveyed with it, which seems to have been worth the
> hazards.

You are minimizing the situation.
>
> If you don't understand that,
>
Unlike you, I understand completely.
I'm right, you're wrong.

> you probably won't understand why people become
> toreros either.

Understand???? LOL! Do you experience history through
videos?



Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 19:37:57 +1200, Miche
> wrote:

> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
> > No one is being silly. That's what they ate and most
> > Gladiators didn't volunteer, it was a draft.
>
> I'm pretty sure some people did sell themselves into slavery and become
> gladiators.
>
Perhaps if that was their only way to survive, however
little short a time it was. There was no other reason other
than desparation (or insanity) to sell youself into that
sort of thing.

> They could buy their way out of slavery again later, if
> they had the funds.

If they were the WINNER. Most of them died.

The big difference between them iand today's athletes are
that today's athletes are paid a lot more money and they
don't anticipate dying during the game.



Practice safe eating - always use condiments

>Of course, a gladiator would play to the crowd... but he
>would also fight for his life. One of them HAD to die.

Not a bit of it. Commonly, the loser was spared.

>Understand???? LOL! Do you experience history through
>videos?

My sources are better than yours.

Neil

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 19:37:57 +1200, Miche
> > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > sf > wrote:
> >
> > > No one is being silly. That's what they ate and most
> > > Gladiators didn't volunteer, it was a draft.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure some people did sell themselves into slavery and become
> > gladiators.
> >
> Perhaps if that was their only way to survive, however
> little short a time it was. There was no other reason other
> than desparation (or insanity) to sell youself into that
> sort of thing.
>
> > They could buy their way out of slavery again later, if
> > they had the funds.
>
> If they were the WINNER. Most of them died.
>
> The big difference between them iand today's athletes are
> that today's athletes are paid a lot more money and they
> don't anticipate dying during the game.
>
>

I have heard of football as being called "modern gladatorial games", but
wonder if Hockey would be even more approrpriate? <G>

Or Rugby...

K.

--
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In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 19:37:57 +1200, Miche
> > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > sf > wrote:
> >
> > > No one is being silly. That's what they ate and most
> > > Gladiators didn't volunteer, it was a draft.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure some people did sell themselves into slavery and become
> > gladiators.
> >
> Perhaps if that was their only way to survive, however
> little short a time it was. There was no other reason other
> than desparation (or insanity) to sell youself into that
> sort of thing.
>
> > They could buy their way out of slavery again later, if
> > they had the funds.
>
> If they were the WINNER. Most of them died.

Actually very few of them died. They were worth too much to their
owners for that.

Miche

--
If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud.
-- Arlo Guthrie, "Alice's Restaurant"

In article >,
(WardNA) wrote:

> >Of course, a gladiator would play to the crowd... but he
> >would also fight for his life. One of them HAD to die.
>
> Not a bit of it. Commonly, the loser was spared.

Yep. Worth too much to his owner.

Miche

--
If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud.
-- Arlo Guthrie, "Alice's Restaurant"