>"Edwin Pawlowski"
>
>"Siobhan Perricone" > wrote in message
>>
>> No, it's just a fancy name for "babysitter" There have always been
>> babysitters, there always will. Anyone who expects parents to raise
>> children with any assistance is living in a dream world. Oh right... it's
>> you, Sheldon.

Actually when the kid is institutionalized all day on weekly/monthly/yearly
basis it's called a KENNEL... the kind of mother who cages her kids like a cur
dog on a steady basis is otherwise known as a BITCH.

>Depends. Baby sitters used to be grandma or the nice neighbor lady that
>really cared about your child. Far different than some (note: I said some,
>not all) of the warehouses for kids used today.

Babysitters are for when parents need an occasional evening out... not when
it's all day every day... that's called incarceration... day care centers are
no different from a work release program, the proprietor no different from a
warden.

Birthing a child makes one a mother but in no way makes one a parent... and
dumping kids off makes one a lousy mother.

M-W

ba·by-sit
verb
Inflected Form(s): baby-sat /-"sat/; -sit·ting
Etymology: back-formation from baby-sitter
Date: 1947

: to care for children during a short absence of the parents
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PENMART01 wrote in message >...
>>"Edwin Pawlowski"
>>
>>"Siobhan Perricone" > wrote in message
>>>
>>> No, it's just a fancy name for "babysitter" There have always been
>>> babysitters, there always will. Anyone who expects parents to raise
>>> children with any assistance is living in a dream world. Oh right...
it's
>>> you, Sheldon.
>
>Actually when the kid is institutionalized all day on weekly/monthly/yearly
>basis it's called a KENNEL... the kind of mother who cages her kids like a
cur
>dog on a steady basis is otherwise known as a BITCH.
>

what about the father? oh yeah, i forgot. it's perfectly fine for the male
parent of a child to leave them in the care of another person (namely their
slave/wife) while they earn a living.

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"Saerah" > wrote in message

>
> what about the father? oh yeah, i forgot. it's perfectly fine for the male
> parent of a child to leave them in the care of another person (namely
> their
> slave/wife) while they earn a living.
>

That is exactly what I did. But my wife is far from a slave. She is a
dedicated mother that wanted to stay home and raise a family and gave up a
banking career to do that. It was a conscience decision.

If you feel the slave/wife is a suitable term you have the option of not
getting married and not having children and the responsibility that goes
along with them. That's what makes America great!

Edwin Pawlowski > wrote in message
. com...
> > What about the father?

> If you feel the slave/wife is a suitable term you have the
> option of not getting married and not having children and
> the responsibility that goes along with them.

You dodged the question, Ed; answer it.

> That's what makes America great!

That's not "what makes America great." It's always been our ability to
adapt to changes and capitalize on trends.

The Ranger

;"The Ranger" > wrote in message
...
> Edwin Pawlowski > wrote in message
> . com...
>> > What about the father?
>
>> If you feel the slave/wife is a suitable term you have the
>> option of not getting married and not having children and
>> the responsibility that goes along with them.
>
> You dodged the question, Ed; answer it.

I dodged nothing. Fathers have a responsibility to raise the children also.
I was not the one bringing up the slave/wife issue. In most cases the
traditional roles are father works, mother nurtures. It is the way we were
made and mothers have generally better instincts for that. if people want
to reverse the roles, that is fine by me. Better than warehousing kids.

In my house I helped with feeding, baths, homework etc. Get this shocking
behavior, I'd also take the kids down to the corner store for an ice cream
while my wife cleaned up the kitchen after dinner. But there are no slaves
in our house!

Edwin Pawlowski > wrote in message
.. .
> Fathers have a responsibility to raise the children also.

I must have missed that in your other posts...

> In most cases the traditional roles are father works,
> mother nurtures.

But these roles are changing -- thankfully. The father should be more
than a simple paycheck, hiding at work from anything resembling family,
because "society" demands it. You work to live, not live to work.

> It is the way we were made and mothers have generally
> better instincts for that.

Nonsense; men haven't had to go and kill for food (unless for sport*)
for a long time. Wives haven't had to till the earth or be
baby-production machines since before the end of the nineteenth century.
It's all about what you bring into a relationship, not what "society"
expects or demands.

The Ranger

"The Ranger" > wrote in message
>> It is the way we were made and mothers have generally
>> better instincts for that.
>
> Nonsense; men haven't had to go and kill for food (unless for sport*)
> for a long time. Wives haven't had to till the earth or be
> baby-production machines since before the end of the nineteenth century.
> It's all about what you bring into a relationship, not what "society"
> expects or demands.
>
> The Ranger

Study anthropology. Society has changed in our country, but our instincts
are centuries behind. Then travel a bit (or at least read National
Geographic) to see how some areas of the world are still little developed
and man still hunts to survive. Those instincts are going to remain with
humans for many more years.

With the advent of artificial insemination we no longer have the need to get
horny either. BTW, if women are not going to be the "baby producing
machines", who will??????

Edwin Pawlowski wrote in message ...
>
>"Saerah" > wrote in message
>
>>
>> what about the father? oh yeah, i forgot. it's perfectly fine for the
male
>> parent of a child to leave them in the care of another person (namely
>> their
>> slave/wife) while they earn a living.
>>
>
>That is exactly what I did. But my wife is far from a slave. She is a
>dedicated mother that wanted to stay home and raise a family and gave up a
>banking career to do that. It was a conscience decision.
>
>If you feel the slave/wife is a suitable term you have the option of not
>getting married and not having children and the responsibility that goes
>along with them. That's what makes America great!

I am married, with a child. I also work full-time. my husband and I have
arranged our schedules so that one of us is home caring for our 3 year old
while the other is working. even if i could afford child care, i would
rather not put my child in the care of strangers. I am no less dedicated a
mother than someone who can afford to quit their job to stay home and be a
full time mother and homemaker. my objection is to the blaming of the female
parent for working, but not assuming the same parental obligations to the
father of said child.

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saerah

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