>Barbara Llorente writes:
>
>>(PENMART01) wrote:
>>
>> Notice none of the cross posters are AOLers... they are all newbies with
>> cheapo/freebie ISPs.
>
>I keep going back to the posts people complain about being
>cross posted (thinking I've accidently cross posted when I
>replied) but they aren't, so I guess my news server strips
>the cross posts... that's a good thing.

AOL software is sophisticated, it doesn't permit cross posting, and it's a
simple matter to set their filters to block down loading cross posted posts...
but the problem now is that so many are regularly cross posting (those with the
rinky-dink cheapo/freebie ISPs) that by filtering I down load practically
nothing. So for now I've un-clicked the cross post filtering tab and do my own
filtering. I don't do much Plonking, all I filter out is all webtv, as many
remailers as I come across, and a handful of posters... those who are so
obnoxious and ignorant that their posts offer no redeeming quality whatsoever.


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Penmart wrote:
>AOL software is sophisticated, it doesn't
>permit cross posting, and it's a simple
>matter to set their filters to block down\
>loading cross posted posts... but the
>problem now is that so many are
>regularly cross posting (those with the
>inky-dink cheapo/freebie ISPs) that by
>iltering I down load practically nothing.
>So for now I've un-clicked the cross post
>iltering tab and do my own filtering. I
>don't do much Plonking, all I filter out is
>all webtv <snip>

It's too bad that this AOL subscriber will never see my eloquent posts.

Penmart wrote:
>AOL software is sophisticated, it doesn't
>permit cross posting, and it's a simple
>matter to set their filters to block down\
>loading cross posted posts... but the
>problem now is that so many are
>regularly cross posting (those with the
>inky-dink cheapo/freebie ISPs) that by
>iltering I down load practically nothing.
>So for now I've un-clicked the cross post
>iltering tab and do my own filtering. I
>don't do much Plonking, all I filter out is
>all webtv <snip>

It's too bad that this AOL subscriber will never see my eloquent posts.

> (And what's with all the cross-posting?)
>
>gloria p

Notice none of the cross posters are AOLers... they are all newbies with
cheapo/freebie ISPs.


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On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:00:07 -0500, "Zipless" > wrote:

>Funny, I find that as I get older my patience is actually increasing! I'm
>not in so much of a hurry anymore, so I don't really care if someone jumps
>ahead of me or blocks the aisle. And when things get tense, I try to make
>jokes to lighten things up. It really helps everybody's day!

Unless I'm having a treacherously terrible day, I'm usually that way, too.
Invariably, I'll keep running into the same people, no matter what aisle
I'm in at the time, and they're always dead center in the middle. After
awhile, it just gets funny. "We meet again!" "We have to stop meeting
like this." Then, "Tag! You're it!" starts, and it's all uphill from
there. Lemons, lemonade, and all that jazz.

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:11:19 -0800, "kevin" > wrote:

>Just witnessed an amazing incident.

As witnesses to the "accident," did you call the police and stick around so
they could get your statement?

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:08:17 -0600, Damsel >
wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:11:19 -0800, "kevin" > wrote:
> >Just witnessed an amazing incident.
>
> As witnesses to the "accident," did you call the police and stick around so
> they could get your statement?

In the area the poster lives, if it [a fender-bender] occurs on
private property (a parking lot in this case), and there were no
injuries, the police will generally not become involved.

Hopefully the two individuals provided the injured party a set of
statements of exactly what happened so that when she goes to small
claims court to get her deductible back, she has those additional
statements to back-up her claim.

ObGroceryStorePlug: "Gene's Fine Foods" in Saratoga. I've been
shopping there for the last fifteen years and found the staff
great, the foods of excellent quality, and the choices better than
any of the local corporate behemoths. "Gene's" also has a stunning
wine area with tastings every weekend! Woo-hoo! Meet the vintners
and executives; schmooz-n-learn on their dime.

ObTopic: The customers at two of my favorite stores can be placed
into three tiers. Mornings are for the Senior Brigade; if you have
the time, energy, and skill to navigate the aisles it can be a
great experience. As a SAHD with three young daughter-units, it was
my favorite time to shop. The afternoons are for the packs of bored
hs-grunge-goth-ravers and clusters of soccermoms that are between
taxi services. It's a dangerous time because there's a lot of
oblivious bumping-and-jostling going on. Night shift is when the
cell phone drones emerge. As others have pointed out, they are
loud, preferring to share their private conversations with those
complete strangers across the store, and are much more oblivious to
everything around them than any Jolt-pounding, triple-esspresso
software junkie I've ever known. Enter at your own risk or don the
appropriate apparel.

The Ranger

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:08:17 -0600, Damsel >
wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:11:19 -0800, "kevin" > wrote:
> >Just witnessed an amazing incident.
>
> As witnesses to the "accident," did you call the police and stick around so
> they could get your statement?

In the area the poster lives, if it [a fender-bender] occurs on
private property (a parking lot in this case), and there were no
injuries, the police will generally not become involved.

Hopefully the two individuals provided the injured party a set of
statements of exactly what happened so that when she goes to small
claims court to get her deductible back, she has those additional
statements to back-up her claim.

ObGroceryStorePlug: "Gene's Fine Foods" in Saratoga. I've been
shopping there for the last fifteen years and found the staff
great, the foods of excellent quality, and the choices better than
any of the local corporate behemoths. "Gene's" also has a stunning
wine area with tastings every weekend! Woo-hoo! Meet the vintners
and executives; schmooz-n-learn on their dime.

ObTopic: The customers at two of my favorite stores can be placed
into three tiers. Mornings are for the Senior Brigade; if you have
the time, energy, and skill to navigate the aisles it can be a
great experience. As a SAHD with three young daughter-units, it was
my favorite time to shop. The afternoons are for the packs of bored
hs-grunge-goth-ravers and clusters of soccermoms that are between
taxi services. It's a dangerous time because there's a lot of
oblivious bumping-and-jostling going on. Night shift is when the
cell phone drones emerge. As others have pointed out, they are
loud, preferring to share their private conversations with those
complete strangers across the store, and are much more oblivious to
everything around them than any Jolt-pounding, triple-esspresso
software junkie I've ever known. Enter at your own risk or don the
appropriate apparel.

The Ranger

Scott en Aztlán wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:52:34 -0800, The Real Bev
> > wrote:
>
>
>>>I've seen couples do the equivalent thing. The woman will pull 12
>>>items out of the cart, pay for them, and then stand at the end of the
>>>aisle waiting while her boyfriend pulls the remaining 12 items out of
>>>the cart and pays for them. Then they put all the grocery bags into
>>>the cart and walk out of the store together, load everything into
>>>their car, and drive home.
>>
>>I don't see the problem here. Is there one?
>
>
> They are complying with the letter of the rule, but not the spirit.
> It's morally bankrupt.
>
> As soon as that couple has kids, they'll start adding 12 additoional
> items per kid to their carts in order to exploit the loophole even
> further.
>
Would you feel better if they carried separate baskets with 12 items in
each one and went through the same like? I don't do this but don't
really see what difference it makes.

--
Steve

Every job is a self-portrait of the person who did it.
Autograph your work with excellence.

Sheessh! Talk about rude! This is the rudest posting I've seen in ages. Knock
it off.
Californians are remarkably courteous in supermarkets. Friendly, helpful, all
you can ask for. Try a New York City market if you want rudeness and neglect.
This poster is obviously a cranky, middle-aged man who can't keep a woman.
Who would want him ?
Mrmiss
-----------------------------------------
>Subject: Why are people so RUDE at the grocery store???
>From: Steelehtta
>Date: 1/15/2005 1:45 P.M. Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <hf2ju01m11e2b04sbc2b715e1730851cbs@news>
>
>zyk wrote:
>
>>I see more rudeness and nasty behavior during the weekly trip to the
>>grocery store than just about anywhere else, except perhaps on the
>>road. Why are people so nasty at the supermarket???
>
>Yep, seen it all. Don't know where you live but here in Southern
>California people are too important and self-absorbed to be nice to
>anyone. When I was living in West Hollywood I can't tell you how many
>times I'd see some fool blocking up an entire aisle with his or her
>shopping cart parked sideways while they blurted into their cell phone
>that they'd been invited to the Oscars after party thanks to a friend
>of a friend of a friend of a friend of Brad Pitt or Jennifer Anniston
>or whoever. And don't even get me started on the porn stars at the
>Ralphs.
>
>>Yesterday I nearly lost it. After the usual attacks and getting run
>>down by shopping carts being driven by aggressive, power mad insane
>>shoppers I stood there ready to scream. What nearly sent me over the
>>edge was this fat breeder **** driving her little brat mobile
>>recklessly, nearly running everyone down. You know those shopping
>>carts with the little kiddie cab thing built into them. She was
>>speeding into and out of every corner of the store, expecting everyone
>>to move out of her way so she and her drooling one year old could do
>>their shopping, it's more important than everyone else's.
>
>Yep, seen them too. They usually have a crazed look on their faces as
>they zoom by you and don't look at anyone, as if they and their
>squealings are the only ones in the universe.
>
>>Then come the office workers doing their shopping during lunch hour in
>>their power suits and high heels running everyone down cuz they gotta
>>get back to the office.
>
>Most of them are jaded neurotic single women.
>
>>I won't even go into the 40 and 50 year old women wearing sports bras
>>and spandex shorts bending over in front of every guy that walks by.
>>So subtle. Sheesh!
>
>Ah, this is one of my favorites. You have to understand where this
>comes from. It all started with the women's magazines back in the
>feminist heyday of the 70s and early 80s. There were all these
>articles telling women that if they were over thirty and single their
>train had left the station and there was a greater chance of being hit
>by lightning than finding a man to marry them and impregnate them.
>They gave all sorts of off the wall advice to women who had put the
>careers first and their biological clocks were ticking so loud they
>were suffering from hearing loss to dress provocatively and throw
>themselves at men in public places. Two favorite ones were the gym
>and the grocery store. Designing Women had a hilarious episode on
>this. Ever since then the grocery store is considered a major
>cruising park for busy successful people (read: desperate lonely
>middle aged single people) whose battle gear seems to be bright
>spandex that strategically calls attention to their reproductive
>zones.
>
>>Somewhere along the line someone decided that social rules and
>>courtesy and respect were going to be forbidden when shopping at the
>>grocery store and forgot to tell me!
>>
>>Why are people so damn rude at the grocery store???
>
>It's the residue of the Baby Boomer "ME Generation". "It's all about
>me, me first, me always" that kind of mentality. Nothing you can do
>about it except to toughen up and learn to dish it out too. That
>stuff about being nice to others might work well in Omaha and the rest
>of flyover country, but if you're in the big cities on both coasts,
>it's eat or be eaten, unfortunately.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "The Ranger" > wrote in message
>>> Pity the checker-outer didn't speak first.
>>
>> And get publicly reprimanded (or lose his/her job) because the
>> self-centered, Yes -- As A Matter of Fact -- Your Universe Does
>> Revolve Around Me, "customer" chose to break an unenforceable
>> policy?
>
>> The Ranger
>
> The checker outer should be given a reward, not a reprimand. The
> manager and at least some of the clerks at our local Stop & Shop have
> the balls to tell a customer "no". I'm not saying 14 items in the
> 12 and fewer, but a full cart just won't go.
> It can be an enforceable policy if the store wants it to be.

I must be really strange... (1) I snipped all the dang cross posting, like
celebrities. (2) I count the items in my cart and if they don't fit the
Express Lane sign, I just look for a queue with someone who doesn't have 150
items in it and stand in line. It's really a no-brainer and considerate,
too. I also have my check filled out (except for the amount) when I get up
there, or use my debit card.

Jill

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:00:09 -0600, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>I must be really strange...

Yes you are! Which is why we love you.

>(1) I snipped all the dang cross posting, like celebrities.

You did WHAT?

>(2) I count the items in my cart and if they don't fit the
>Express Lane sign, I just look for a queue with someone who doesn't have 150
>items in it and stand in line. It's really a no-brainer and considerate,
>too. I also have my check filled out (except for the amount) when I get up
>there, or use my debit card.

I'm usually right with you there. Although sometimes I go into Shopper's
Daze, in which case, when it's time to pay, I accuse the cashier of being
too picky because they want me to pay for my stuff. This is done with an
apologetic smile.

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

In > posted on
Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:26:59 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:

wrote:
>
>>
>> IMO, the policy shoud be enforced by making those particular registers
>> ring up no more than the stated number of items. So if someone with 20
>> items goes to a 12 or less aisle, the only 12 can be rung up and a total
>> would be required before any more could be rung up.
>>
>> "I'm sorry, but this register only rings up 12 items or less. There's
>> oting I ca do."
>
>Let's face it. Those numbers are arbitrary. Some say 8 items or less, some
>10 items or less, or 12 items or less. There are codes on everything these
>days, and a few extra items is no big deal, just a matter of a few seconds
>extra to pass them over the scanner. There are some things that aren't
>worth fighting over, and even if you are inclined to fight, you have to pick
>your battles. The stores want to come out ahead too.

True, and IMHO the main problem is with customers who refuse
to follow the rules. However, there is an unresolved
question. Suppose I am in a store that has a policy of 10
items or less. I have 6 bags of potato chips at price "x"
and 6 x 2 litre bottles of soft drink at price "y".

Should these count as 2 items or 12 items? Obviously it is
much quicker to pass an item through the scanner once to
determine the price then multiply it by 6 which is an option
on some systems. On others, can simply make multiple passes
of items over the scanner.

This probably takes less actual time than a customer with
8 or 9 separately priced items. So why cannot stores make
their policy clear?

Another annoyance: A supermarket may have a display
of a soft drink on sale, but most of the top boxes will be
opened, thus awkward to handle. If I want 5 unopened
cartons I have to half dismantle the display to get to them.

Often an employee will ask me what I am doing, and I
patiently explain why, and suggest that the display include
some unopened boxes that are easy to get at. Alternatively,
I suggest that it will save us both trouble if I can simply
pay for the product at the checkout and pick it up at the
loading dock.

So far, I haven't managed to get any store to alter their
display practice, but they have no objection to the latter
arrangement.

I don't suppose that I have to mention that when I am forced
to dismantle a display to reach unopened cartons I take my
time about it and the aisle is soon half blocked by opened
cartons. Yes, I do return the opened ones to the display,
but don't bother with artistically arranging them.

Another minor annoyance if buying one unopened case is that
the case has a separate bar code than the individual
bottles, so all that should be necessary is to scan the box
code. However, have never encountered a supermarket which
was prepared for this, and I have invariably been asked to
open the box and pull out a bottle to be scanned.

Does anyone know the reason for this, if there is any
reason?

Years ago I was once told that there was a limit of two
cases. As I grew up in the days where the customer was
always right, my response was to point out that they had not
posted a sign to this effect, and in a deliberately loud
voice demanded that the manager either sell me the five
cases without wasting my time any further or write me a
signed note that he was refusing the sale.

When he asked why, I told him that I needed it as evidence,
and that I intended to forward one copy to his corporate
headquarters and retain the other as evidence to present in
my complaint for false advertising under the trade practices
act. He wisely decided that the best course of action was
to sell me the five cases.

As a customer, one should not allow oneself to be bullied by
business people.

Incidentally, if ever have to make such a complaint to
someone's corporate headquarters, don't bother to talk to
his area manager. Write a letter to the CEO of the chain
and send it by security post with a return receipt
requested. This ensures that either the CEO or his private
secretary has to sign for it. This means he is usually
curious enough to read it, and it prevents his underlings
from concealing the complaint from him.

Regards,
"nilkids"

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:03:27 -0500, Buttercup >
wrote:

>
>> says...
>>
>>>I've never seen spots like that. Real gimpspots or regular parking,
> ^^^^^^^^^
>Excuse me?

Thanks for saying what I wanted to. You did it in a much nicer way than I
could have.

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:15:10 GMT, (Podkayne Fries)
wrote:

>I'm curious - what stores set aside parking spots for pregnant women
>and/or families? Here in central Ohio, the only stores that I know of
>with spots for pregnant women are stores that cater exclusively to
>them, such as Babies R Us. I've never seen parking spots reserved for
>people with kids.

They're non commonplace, but they're out there. When we lived in St. Paul,
the suburban Cub Foods stores had them. I haven't seen any since moving to
Small Town, USA.

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

"The Real Bev" > wrote in message
>>
>> I've seen couples do the equivalent thing. The woman will pull 12
>> items out of the cart, pay for them, and then stand at the end of the
>> aisle waiting while her boyfriend pulls the remaining 12 items out of
>> the cart and pays for them. Then they put all the grocery bags into
>> the cart and walk out of the store together, load everything into
>> their car, and drive home.
>
> I don't see the problem here. Is there one?
>
> --
> Cheers, Bev

Perfectly legal, but it still defeats the purpose of having a speed
checkout. Sort of like when a confessed felon gets out of jail because of a
minor technicality. They are still guilty. Splitting an order is legal, but
not mannerly.

"The Real Bev" > wrote in message
>> >
>> >>I've never seen spots like that. Real gimpspots or regular parking,
>> ^^^^^^^^^
>> Excuse me?
>
> Handicapped parking spots. My mom and mom-in-law are eligible. That's
> what we call them.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Bev


Oh my, you probably use horrid terminology like calling a hearing impaired
person "deaf"

>"Edwin Pawlowski" writes:
>
>"The Real Bev" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>I've never seen spots like that. Real gimpspots or regular parking,
>>>
>>> Excuse me?
>>
>> Handicapped parking spots. My mom and mom-in-law are eligible. That's
>> what we call them.
>
>Oh my, you probably use horrid terminology like calling a hearing impaired
>person "deaf"

Well, in NYC there's all sorts of nomenclature for sight impaired/blind
drivers... ask any cabbie. hehe


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We live in a society of me'ism,plus people have a lot of
personal/business problems these days and are under a lot of tension,but
it's no excuse for rudeness.

Erin Doherty wrote:

> Wow, I've never been hit with a stroller! Grocery carts (esp. those
> "Customer in Training" mini-battering rams they provide for the
> kiddies), sure.
>
> I think I'd probably get pretty bent out of shape if someone "nudged" me
> with a stroller.
>

How about a motorized wheel chair. There was one guy in one of those things
who used to hang out at one of the local malls, at least I saw him almost
every time I was there. I saw him take runs at people several times. After
seeing him to it a few times too many, I stood in front of him to block his
way and had a little talk with him. I never saw him do it again. I guess he
thought that I really would wheel him over to the stairs and push him over.
:-)

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:04:41 -0500, Dave Smith >
wrote:

>How about a motorized wheel chair. There was one guy in one of those things
>who used to hang out at one of the local malls, at least I saw him almost
>every time I was there. I saw him take runs at people several times. After
>seeing him to it a few times too many, I stood in front of him to block his
>way and had a little talk with him. I never saw him do it again. I guess he
>thought that I really would wheel him over to the stairs and push him over.
>:-)

I think Crash would like you.

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

"Horatio" > wrote in message
newscjHd.7167$u_1.5288@edtnps91...
> Rabbit wrote:
> ||| Checks are bloody artifacts from the 19th century. I use plastic for
> ||| EVERYTHING..almost.
> ||
> || Including your girlfriend ...
>
> You seem to enjoy your plastic anal buttplugs, babe.
More than you'll ever know, Sweetie.

In > posted on
Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:26:59 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:

wrote:
>
>>
>> IMO, the policy shoud be enforced by making those particular registers
>> ring up no more than the stated number of items. So if someone with 20
>> items goes to a 12 or less aisle, the only 12 can be rung up and a total
>> would be required before any more could be rung up.
>>
>> "I'm sorry, but this register only rings up 12 items or less. There's
>> oting I ca do."
>
>Let's face it. Those numbers are arbitrary. Some say 8 items or less, some
>10 items or less, or 12 items or less. There are codes on everything these
>days, and a few extra items is no big deal, just a matter of a few seconds
>extra to pass them over the scanner. There are some things that aren't
>worth fighting over, and even if you are inclined to fight, you have to pick
>your battles. The stores want to come out ahead too.

True, and IMHO the main problem is with customers who refuse
to follow the rules. However, there is an unresolved
question. Suppose I am in a store that has a policy of 10
items or less. I have 6 bags of potato chips at price "x"
and 6 x 2 litre bottles of soft drink at price "y".

Should these count as 2 items or 12 items? Obviously it is
much quicker to pass an item through the scanner once to
determine the price then multiply it by 6 which is an option
on some systems. On others, can simply make multiple passes
of items over the scanner.

This probably takes less actual time than a customer with
8 or 9 separately priced items. So why cannot stores make
their policy clear?

Another annoyance: A supermarket may have a display
of a soft drink on sale, but most of the top boxes will be
opened, thus awkward to handle. If I want 5 unopened
cartons I have to half dismantle the display to get to them.

Often an employee will ask me what I am doing, and I
patiently explain why, and suggest that the display include
some unopened boxes that are easy to get at. Alternatively,
I suggest that it will save us both trouble if I can simply
pay for the product at the checkout and pick it up at the
loading dock.

So far, I haven't managed to get any store to alter their
display practice, but they have no objection to the latter
arrangement.

I don't suppose that I have to mention that when I am forced
to dismantle a display to reach unopened cartons I take my
time about it and the aisle is soon half blocked by opened
cartons. Yes, I do return the opened ones to the display,
but don't bother with artistically arranging them.

Another minor annoyance if buying one unopened case is that
the case has a separate bar code than the individual
bottles, so all that should be necessary is to scan the box
code. However, have never encountered a supermarket which
was prepared for this, and I have invariably been asked to
open the box and pull out a bottle to be scanned.

Does anyone know the reason for this, if there is any
reason?

Years ago I was once told that there was a limit of two
cases. As I grew up in the days where the customer was
always right, my response was to point out that they had not
posted a sign to this effect, and in a deliberately loud
voice demanded that the manager either sell me the five
cases without wasting my time any further or write me a
signed note that he was refusing the sale.

When he asked why, I told him that I needed it as evidence,
and that I intended to forward one copy to his corporate
headquarters and retain the other as evidence to present in
my complaint for false advertising under the trade practices
act. He wisely decided that the best course of action was
to sell me the five cases.

As a customer, one should not allow oneself to be bullied by
business people.

Incidentally, if ever have to make such a complaint to
someone's corporate headquarters, don't bother to talk to
his area manager. Write a letter to the CEO of the chain
and send it by security post with a return receipt
requested. This ensures that either the CEO or his private
secretary has to sign for it. This means he is usually
curious enough to read it, and it prevents his underlings
from concealing the complaint from him.

Regards,
"nilkids"

Jason G wrote:

> FYI, Rod, Nilkids is our local tar-baby in ASC. You will never, ever conclude
> this conversation with him. He argues by attrition, burying you in verbiage
> until you give up in exhaustion. And the fact that most everyone here ignores
> him means he's latched on to you for dear life for the attention.
>
> Only escape is to just walk away unless you just want to play him for comedy.
>
> Just FYI.
>
>

It is a 15 year old girl with a fixation on genitalia.

"The Real Bev" > wrote in message
>>
>> I've seen couples do the equivalent thing. The woman will pull 12
>> items out of the cart, pay for them, and then stand at the end of the
>> aisle waiting while her boyfriend pulls the remaining 12 items out of
>> the cart and pays for them. Then they put all the grocery bags into
>> the cart and walk out of the store together, load everything into
>> their car, and drive home.
>
> I don't see the problem here. Is there one?
>
> --
> Cheers, Bev

Perfectly legal, but it still defeats the purpose of having a speed
checkout. Sort of like when a confessed felon gets out of jail because of a
minor technicality. They are still guilty. Splitting an order is legal, but
not mannerly.

"The Real Bev" > wrote in message
>> >
>> >>I've never seen spots like that. Real gimpspots or regular parking,
>> ^^^^^^^^^
>> Excuse me?
>
> Handicapped parking spots. My mom and mom-in-law are eligible. That's
> what we call them.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Bev


Oh my, you probably use horrid terminology like calling a hearing impaired
person "deaf"

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:07:18 -0500, Tony P.
> wrote:

> Why is it that in the places where it's sunny and warm for 80% of the
> year, 99% of the people who already live there are assholes.

They aren't complaining, but you are - so stay put. You
can't handle life in the fast lane.

sf

Sheessh! Talk about rude! This is the rudest posting I've seen in ages. Knock
it off.
Californians are remarkably courteous in supermarkets. Friendly, helpful, all
you can ask for. Try a New York City market if you want rudeness and neglect.
This poster is obviously a cranky, middle-aged man who can't keep a woman.
Who would want him ?
Mrmiss
-----------------------------------------
>Subject: Why are people so RUDE at the grocery store???
>From: Steelehtta
>Date: 1/15/2005 1:45 P.M. Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <hf2ju01m11e2b04sbc2b715e1730851cbs@news>
>
>zyk wrote:
>
>>I see more rudeness and nasty behavior during the weekly trip to the
>>grocery store than just about anywhere else, except perhaps on the
>>road. Why are people so nasty at the supermarket???
>
>Yep, seen it all. Don't know where you live but here in Southern
>California people are too important and self-absorbed to be nice to
>anyone. When I was living in West Hollywood I can't tell you how many
>times I'd see some fool blocking up an entire aisle with his or her
>shopping cart parked sideways while they blurted into their cell phone
>that they'd been invited to the Oscars after party thanks to a friend
>of a friend of a friend of a friend of Brad Pitt or Jennifer Anniston
>or whoever. And don't even get me started on the porn stars at the
>Ralphs.
>
>>Yesterday I nearly lost it. After the usual attacks and getting run
>>down by shopping carts being driven by aggressive, power mad insane
>>shoppers I stood there ready to scream. What nearly sent me over the
>>edge was this fat breeder **** driving her little brat mobile
>>recklessly, nearly running everyone down. You know those shopping
>>carts with the little kiddie cab thing built into them. She was
>>speeding into and out of every corner of the store, expecting everyone
>>to move out of her way so she and her drooling one year old could do
>>their shopping, it's more important than everyone else's.
>
>Yep, seen them too. They usually have a crazed look on their faces as
>they zoom by you and don't look at anyone, as if they and their
>squealings are the only ones in the universe.
>
>>Then come the office workers doing their shopping during lunch hour in
>>their power suits and high heels running everyone down cuz they gotta
>>get back to the office.
>
>Most of them are jaded neurotic single women.
>
>>I won't even go into the 40 and 50 year old women wearing sports bras
>>and spandex shorts bending over in front of every guy that walks by.
>>So subtle. Sheesh!
>
>Ah, this is one of my favorites. You have to understand where this
>comes from. It all started with the women's magazines back in the
>feminist heyday of the 70s and early 80s. There were all these
>articles telling women that if they were over thirty and single their
>train had left the station and there was a greater chance of being hit
>by lightning than finding a man to marry them and impregnate them.
>They gave all sorts of off the wall advice to women who had put the
>careers first and their biological clocks were ticking so loud they
>were suffering from hearing loss to dress provocatively and throw
>themselves at men in public places. Two favorite ones were the gym
>and the grocery store. Designing Women had a hilarious episode on
>this. Ever since then the grocery store is considered a major
>cruising park for busy successful people (read: desperate lonely
>middle aged single people) whose battle gear seems to be bright
>spandex that strategically calls attention to their reproductive
>zones.
>
>>Somewhere along the line someone decided that social rules and
>>courtesy and respect were going to be forbidden when shopping at the
>>grocery store and forgot to tell me!
>>
>>Why are people so damn rude at the grocery store???
>
>It's the residue of the Baby Boomer "ME Generation". "It's all about
>me, me first, me always" that kind of mentality. Nothing you can do
>about it except to toughen up and learn to dish it out too. That
>stuff about being nice to others might work well in Omaha and the rest
>of flyover country, but if you're in the big cities on both coasts,
>it's eat or be eaten, unfortunately.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:18:33 -0500, Tony P.
> wrote:

>WRT supermarket rudeness, I've witnessed tons of that but occasionally
>either been the beneficiary of or the provider of kindness. The kindness
>generally seems to come from the older generation though.

Does picking stuff up off the floor and putting back on the shelf count as
kindness? If so, I'm old.

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

On 15 Jan 2005 21:17:35 -0800, "nancree" > wrote:

>Have a nice day at the supermarket. (and guys, button up your shirts,
>your belly-button is showing, you could use a bath and a shave, --and a
>decent expression on your face.)

Why do you hate men?

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Drew wrote:

<snip>

Please refrain from cross posting threads to newsgroups that have no
bearing on the subject. <most recently added newsgroup removed from
header>.

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:00:07 -0500, "Zipless" > wrote:

>Funny, I find that as I get older my patience is actually increasing! I'm
>not in so much of a hurry anymore, so I don't really care if someone jumps
>ahead of me or blocks the aisle. And when things get tense, I try to make
>jokes to lighten things up. It really helps everybody's day!

Unless I'm having a treacherously terrible day, I'm usually that way, too.
Invariably, I'll keep running into the same people, no matter what aisle
I'm in at the time, and they're always dead center in the middle. After
awhile, it just gets funny. "We meet again!" "We have to stop meeting
like this." Then, "Tag! You're it!" starts, and it's all uphill from
there. Lemons, lemonade, and all that jazz.

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:19:52 GMT, Mike > wrote:

>everyone here in Florida, THE CENTER LANE IS NOT THE RIGHT LANE. Why
>does everyone want to be in the center lane when on a 3 lane
>interstate? It slows everyone down.

Why do you treat the center lane like it's only a passing lane? You're
quite mistaken. The center lane is a driving lane, for people who are not
entering or exiting but driving through. The right lane is for people who
are entering and exiting the highway, and the left lane is the passing
lane. If you want to speed past people, then stay in the left lane.

ob food: I made an interesting dish called Bitterballen for our holiday
meal with guests. At the time it seemed like it wasn't going to make enough
food for everyone so I quadrupled the recipe. It made a HUGE amount of
little fried meatballs.

And I love bitterballen! They're fantastic. It's sorta like deep fried
balls of beef stew. Yum!

--
Siobhan Perricone
Humans wrote the bible,
God wrote the rocks
-- Word of God by Kathy Mar

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:08:45 -0800, Scott en Aztlán
> wrote:

> And then there are the people who stand AT the checkout to pack up all
> their shit, put their change into their wallet and/or coin purse, fold
> up their sales receipt and file it away, etc. etc., forcing the
> customer behind them to wait unnecessarily to begin checking out.
> Walking forward a couple of steps and THEN pack up their crap never
> occurs to these self-centered, inconsiderate assholes.

Perhaps you should keep a receipt book with you and hand
them a bill for wasting your oh, so precious time.

sf

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:55:55 -0500, George
> wrote:

> The guy in front of me says to the women "you must have 150 items in
> that cart" then I also reinforce that with a similar comment.

What made you think it was okay to create a scene in the
checkout line? Why didn't you leave it up to the checkout
clerk to point out she was in the wrong line? It's part of
their job. If the clerk allowed it, which I doubt, you
could have then complained to the manager.

sf

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 04:11:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> wrote:

> Mindless stuff. Of course its enforceable.

And they DO enforce it... to bad the complainers come from
areas that train their staff so poorly.

sf

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:58:54 -0500, "Drew" >
wrote:

> Usually they're like me, they go with a list, are well
> planned, know where everything is, get what they need,

That's what I hate about my husband doing the shopping. If
it's not on the list, he doesn't buy it. Not very flexible.

sf

mslinda wrote:
> Jeannie-2 wrote:
>>
>> Albertsons does that all the time. Now, I'm one to park in the
>> "special" parking spots. Not the employee carpool one, but the
>> "expectant mothers" or "customers with children" ones. for some
>> reason these spots bug the crap out of me.
>
>
> How can the store enforce something like that? You can't know looking at
> the car who was in it.
>
> Linda C.



They can't enforce it, they depend on people's integrity.
Reading these posts makes me think integrity isn't as
common as it used to be. (And what's with all the
cross-posting?)

gloria p

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:11:19 -0800, "kevin" > wrote:

>Just witnessed an amazing incident.

As witnesses to the "accident," did you call the police and stick around so
they could get your statement?

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Scott en Aztlán wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:52:34 -0800, The Real Bev
> > wrote:
>
>
>>>I've seen couples do the equivalent thing. The woman will pull 12
>>>items out of the cart, pay for them, and then stand at the end of the
>>>aisle waiting while her boyfriend pulls the remaining 12 items out of
>>>the cart and pays for them. Then they put all the grocery bags into
>>>the cart and walk out of the store together, load everything into
>>>their car, and drive home.
>>
>>I don't see the problem here. Is there one?
>
>
> They are complying with the letter of the rule, but not the spirit.
> It's morally bankrupt.
>
> As soon as that couple has kids, they'll start adding 12 additoional
> items per kid to their carts in order to exploit the loophole even
> further.
>
Would you feel better if they carried separate baskets with 12 items in
each one and went through the same like? I don't do this but don't
really see what difference it makes.

--
Steve

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Autograph your work with excellence.