Just got one this morning. Very professional with the eBay logo and
header format. The subject was something like "eBay account suspended"
with a nice HTML form to enter my username and password.

The real eBay has a good tutorial on this sort of thing. Down at the
bottom of the home page is a link to 'Security Center.'

"Frogleg" > wrote in message
...
> Just got one this morning. Very professional with the eBay logo and
> header format. The subject was something like "eBay account suspended"
> with a nice HTML form to enter my username and password.
>
> The real eBay has a good tutorial on this sort of thing. Down at the
> bottom of the home page is a link to 'Security Center.'

This has been going on for a while. CitiBank has the same problem.
You should NEVER enter a password in response to an e mail.

On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 12:45:55 GMT, "Kswck" > wrote:

>
>"Frogleg" > wrote in message
.. .
>> Just got one this morning. Very professional with the eBay logo and
>> header format. The subject was something like "eBay account suspended"
>> with a nice HTML form to enter my username and password.
>>
>> The real eBay has a good tutorial on this sort of thing. Down at the
>> bottom of the home page is a link to 'Security Center.'
>
>This has been going on for a while. CitiBank has the same problem.
>You should NEVER enter a password in response to an e mail.
>
I didn't think I needed to add that I simply forwarded it to eBay.
Your advice was aimed toward others, right? :-) I posted because
this was the first example I'd received and I didn't know if others
might just be having a similar problem.

BTW, some newsgroup participants are receiving bogus/dangerous e-mail
purporting to come from other members, frequently with old addresses
spoofed. Geez, will this never end? I'm about to refuse to correspond
with anyone who uses Outlook -- too easy to harvest their address
books.

Frogleg wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 12:45:55 GMT, "Kswck" > wrote:
<snip>
> I didn't think I needed to add that I simply forwarded it to eBay.
> Your advice was aimed toward others, right? :-) I posted because
> this was the first example I'd received and I didn't know if others
> might just be having a similar problem.
>
> BTW, some newsgroup participants are receiving bogus/dangerous e-mail
> purporting to come from other members, frequently with old addresses
> spoofed. Geez, will this never end? I'm about to refuse to correspond
> with anyone who uses Outlook -- too easy to harvest their address
> books.

I "assume" that you expanded and included the full header information
in your forward. If not then it's useless. Even with the headers,
chances are nothing will happen. YMMV


--
Steve

Men are from Earth. Women are from Earth. Deal with it.

On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 18:42:28 GMT, Steve Calvin >
wrote:

>Frogleg wrote:
>> On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 12:45:55 GMT, "Kswck" > wrote:
><snip>
>> I didn't think I needed to add that I simply forwarded it to eBay.
>> Your advice was aimed toward others, right? :-) I posted because
>> this was the first example I'd received and I didn't know if others
>> might just be having a similar problem.

>I "assume" that you expanded and included the full header information
>in your forward. If not then it's useless. Even with the headers,
>chances are nothing will happen. YMMV

I did not. I followed eBay's security instructions which were simply
to forward it as is. They can expand the header as well as I can.

Frogleg wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 18:42:28 GMT, Steve Calvin >
> wrote:
<snip>
>
>
> I did not. I followed eBay's security instructions which were simply
> to forward it as is. They can expand the header as well as I can.

Actually, that's not at all true which just goes to show that they
could not care less about it.

--
Steve

Men are from Earth. Women are from Earth. Deal with it.

On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 22:11:24 GMT, Frogleg
> wrote:

> On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 18:42:28 GMT, Steve Calvin >
> wrote:
>
> >I "assume" that you expanded and included the full header information
> >in your forward. If not then it's useless. Even with the headers,
> >chances are nothing will happen. YMMV
>
> I did not. I followed eBay's security instructions which were simply
> to forward it as is. They can expand the header as well as I can.

Have you ever tried to expand the headers of forwarded
messages (often at least a full page of them if no one has
bothered to delete) that you receive?

If you haven't tried to expand the header of the person who
sent the message to the person who actually sent the message
to you.... try it sometime.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 18:15:12 GMT, Frogleg
> wrote:

>
> BTW, some newsgroup participants are receiving bogus/dangerous e-mail
> purporting to come from other members, frequently with old addresses
> spoofed. Geez, will this never end? I'm about to refuse to correspond
> with anyone who uses Outlook -- too easy to harvest their address
> books.

I think most people have antivirus protection these days,
but they don't update their data bases regularly enough.
Viruses are smarter too - they are not limited to Outlook
and can harvest addresses anywhere on the HD. I don't know
if they are limited to the partition they launch in or not.
The average home user has only one partition, so that means
if your address is in their newsreader... it will be found.

Most people have antivirus protection these days, but they
don't update their virus data bases regularly enough.
Viruses are getting more vicious too - they are not limited
to hitting Outlook and can harvest addresses anywhere on the
HD. I don't know if they are limited to the partition they
launch in or not. The average home user has only one
partition, so that means if your address is in their
newsreader.. it will be found.

I like to use a "real" address to post with. Fortunately, I
can have more than one mailbox with my ISP and can use more
than one "personality" on my email program. I think it's
time for me to set up a new mailbox for posting purposes.

I share your pain!
:-\

PS: home users - look at AVG and Avast. They are free for
home use. I use Avast and love it.




Practice safe eating - always use condiments

Frogleg wrote:
> Just got one this morning. Very professional with the eBay logo and
> header format. The subject was something like "eBay account suspended"
> with a nice HTML form to enter my username and password.
>
> The real eBay has a good tutorial on this sort of thing. Down at the
> bottom of the home page is a link to 'Security Center.'

This happened to me a couple of days ago my DSL ISP account, too. I was
like, uh huh, I pay my phone bill asswipe so I know my account isn't about
to be cut off.

Any time anyone gets something stupid enough to ask for login ID, password
information, credit card information (like I used a credit card to set up my
friggin telephone) STOP, LOOK, LISTEN. Contact the vendor/service provider
immediately.

I can't believe some people actually fall for these scams. It's like
opening an attachment in email from someone you don't know.

I'll tell you right now, when I send you an email with a photo or something,
I will write something in the body of the email which describes what I'm
sending and why. That way you know it's from me. If it doesn't have that
personalized little memo from me, chances are it ain't from me so delete it.

Jill

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 08:06:41 -0600, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>I'll tell you right now, when I send you an email with a photo or something,
>I will write something in the body of the email which describes what I'm
>sending and why. That way you know it's from me. If it doesn't have that
>personalized little memo from me, chances are it ain't from me so delete it.
>
>Jill
>
what kind of photos you got, jill?

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 08:06:41 -0600, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>I'll tell you right now, when I send you an email with a photo or something,
>I will write something in the body of the email which describes what I'm
>sending and why. That way you know it's from me. If it doesn't have that
>personalized little memo from me, chances are it ain't from me so delete it.
>
>Jill
>
what kind of photos you got, jill?

your pal,
blake

Ebay states that they never send emails for anything, when I receive
one I forward it to and always I receive a real
response telling me that the email in question was not from them.
NEVER, NEVER, NEVER go to a web page from a link in the emal received
and enter ANY kind of information. That email will have several links
to the true web page ( for example the ebay logo and links at the
bottom of the page) but the main one ( the one you have to click to
"renew" or anything is directed to the scammers home page)
This applys for anything, I have received emails like that from ebay,
paypal etc
The same for thos emails that it seems you got from an ebay user as a
reply for "question for the seller" if you don't havew anything to do
wih it forward it to
For bellsouth.net email users: all the spam that I receive I forward
it to
My outlook is setup to have all the spam in the deleted items, I check
once a day and forward them all togheter


On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 12:39:14 GMT, Frogleg > wrote:

>Just got one this morning. Very professional with the eBay logo and
>header format. The subject was something like "eBay account suspended"
>with a nice HTML form to enter my username and password.
>
>The real eBay has a good tutorial on this sort of thing. Down at the
>bottom of the home page is a link to 'Security Center.'

On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 12:39:14 GMT, Frogleg
> wrote:

> Just got one this morning. Very professional with the eBay logo and
> header format. The subject was something like "eBay account suspended"
> with a nice HTML form to enter my username and password.
>
> The real eBay has a good tutorial on this sort of thing. Down at the
> bottom of the home page is a link to 'Security Center.'

What really cracks me up is getting one of those when I've
never, ever used EBay!


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 12:39:14 GMT, Frogleg
> > wrote:
>
> > Just got one this morning. Very professional with the eBay logo and
> > header format. The subject was something like "eBay account suspended"
> > with a nice HTML form to enter my username and password.
> >
> > The real eBay has a good tutorial on this sort of thing. Down at the
> > bottom of the home page is a link to 'Security Center.'
>
> What really cracks me up is getting one of those when I've
> never, ever used EBay!
>


I've used ebay, but I send postal money orders, so I don't use paypal. I
get a paypal dunning notice telling me I would be charged $15 to my account
if I don't log on and confirm all my information. They even asked for bank
and credit card numbers in the original email. Since they indicated it was
from ebay, I contacted ebay and got the address from them for paypal. Both
indicated that this was a scam.

I don't send anyone jack. I got a really bad computer virus from an
attachment asking for information on an account with Wells Fargo Mortgage
once. I opened it only because we were having an ongoing disagreement with
Wells Fargo at the time. Now if I don't recognize the name in the email it
goes plonk.

-Ginny

"Frogleg" > wrote in message
...
> Just got one this morning. Very professional with the eBay logo and
> header format. The subject was something like "eBay account suspended"
> with a nice HTML form to enter my username and password.
>
> The real eBay has a good tutorial on this sort of thing. Down at the
> bottom of the home page is a link to 'Security Center.'

I got the idea that some really fishy things were going on over the internet
when I failed to get the funds that were promised to me by an ex-official
from Nigeria.

In article >,
Frogleg > wrote:

> Just got one this morning. Very professional with the eBay logo and
> header format. The subject was something like "eBay account suspended"
> with a nice HTML form to enter my username and password.
>
> The real eBay has a good tutorial on this sort of thing. Down at the
> bottom of the home page is a link to 'Security Center.'

I've gotten dozens of them...
I also get them for paypal.

I forward all to " or ".

One learns to recognize these things....

_NEVER_ give out passwords and financial information based on an e-mail!
Always check with what you know is a legitimate source first.

K.

--
Sprout the Mung Bean to reply...

>,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,<
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra

"Frogleg" > wrote in message
...
> Just got one this morning. Very professional with the eBay logo and
> header format. The subject was something like "eBay account suspended"
> with a nice HTML form to enter my username and password.
>
> The real eBay has a good tutorial on this sort of thing. Down at the
> bottom of the home page is a link to 'Security Center.'

Ebay, PayPal, Citibank, and others all being "spoofed" in this manner...and
the sites linked to look just like the real thing. The key is to pay close
attention. For example, the Ebay ones will take you to a link to fill in
information that Ebay never asked of you in the first place, such as social
security numbers, mother's maiden name, etc. Also, the cgi-bin part of the
address is missing.
With PayPal, watch for e-mails that are addressed as "Dear PayPal user" and
such. PayPal will only address you by the name on your account.
It is very important that people learn not to be so free with their personal
information. Never give out any information that isn't absolutely required
and always verify who you're giving it to before giving it. Heck, I don't
even give Best Buy and the like my zip code or phone number when they ask.

kimberly

Nexis wrote:

> Ebay, PayPal, Citibank, and others all being "spoofed" in this manner...

I think spoofed is too weak a word.

> and
> the sites linked to look just like the real thing.

I can't believe you actually looked at them.

> The key is to pay close attention

You misspelled NO! attention.

Never ever ever open emails like that, never mind any attachments they
contain. Just delete them.

nancy

In article <SEM2c.16225$id3.6840@fed1read01>, "Nexis" >
wrote:

> "Frogleg" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Just got one this morning. Very professional with the eBay logo and
> > header format. The subject was something like "eBay account suspended"
> > with a nice HTML form to enter my username and password.
> >
> > The real eBay has a good tutorial on this sort of thing. Down at the
> > bottom of the home page is a link to 'Security Center.'
>
> Ebay, PayPal, Citibank, and others all being "spoofed" in this manner...and
> the sites linked to look just like the real thing. The key is to pay close
> attention. For example, the Ebay ones will take you to a link to fill in
> information that Ebay never asked of you in the first place, such as social
> security numbers, mother's maiden name, etc. Also, the cgi-bin part of the
> address is missing.

Not necessarily...
The last one that I got not only had "cgi-bin" in the URL, it was an
https site as well!

They are learning and getting better at this!

If in doubt, send any and all of these to Spoof@ whatever site they are
emulating. The company will get in touch with you if there is really a
problem.

> With PayPal, watch for e-mails that are addressed as "Dear PayPal user" and
> such. PayPal will only address you by the name on your account.
> It is very important that people learn not to be so free with their personal
> information. Never give out any information that isn't absolutely required
> and always verify who you're giving it to before giving it. Heck, I don't
> even give Best Buy and the like my zip code or phone number when they ask.
>
> kimberly
>
>

--
Sprout the Mung Bean to reply...

>,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,<
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra

On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 12:39:14 GMT, Frogleg >
arranged random neurons, so they looked like this:

>Just got one this morning. Very professional with the eBay logo and
>header format. The subject was something like "eBay account suspended"
>with a nice HTML form to enter my username and password.
>
>The real eBay has a good tutorial on this sort of thing. Down at the
>bottom of the home page is a link to 'Security Center.'

Same thing happened to me, but they also wanted to know my bank,
account nos., SSN, as well as my username and password in eBay. Like
I'd even have given all that informatin to eBay? I don't *think* so.

I forwarded the whole thing to eBay.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"Never argue with an idiot.....they bring you down to their level and
then beat you with experience."

To reply, replace "shcox" with "cox"

On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 16:03:30 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:
>
> Same thing happened to me, but they also wanted to know my bank,
> account nos., SSN, as well as my username and password in eBay. Like
> I'd even have given all that informatin to eBay? I don't *think* so.
>
> I forwarded the whole thing to eBay.
>
So what do you expect them to do? Contact the FEDs on them?
If they had a round file, I'm sure such forwards would be
there. If you're lucky, at least they log the complaints.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 16:03:30 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd
> > wrote:
> >
> > Same thing happened to me, but they also wanted to know my bank,
> > account nos., SSN, as well as my username and password in eBay. Like
> > I'd even have given all that informatin to eBay? I don't *think* so.
> >
> > I forwarded the whole thing to eBay.
> >
> So what do you expect them to do? Contact the FEDs on them?
> If they had a round file, I'm sure such forwards would be
> there. If you're lucky, at least they log the complaints.
>
>
> Practice safe eating - always use condiments

Actually, Ebay requests that any member who received such an e-mail forward
it to them for investigation.
Report Suspicious Email to eBay
To report email requesting account information that you suspect was not sent
by eBay send us the email with the complete message text and full header or
forward the entire message to using the forward function of
your email program. When forwarding the message, do not change the subject
line, send additional text, or forward the message as an attachment.
Forwarding the message in this manner will allow us to review the message
headers and any other information that may be attached to the email.



kimberly

On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 03:48:07 GMT, sf > arranged
random neurons, so they looked like this:

>On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 16:03:30 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:
>>
>> Same thing happened to me, but they also wanted to know my bank,
>> account nos., SSN, as well as my username and password in eBay. Like
>> I'd even have given all that informatin to eBay? I don't *think* so.
>>
>> I forwarded the whole thing to eBay.
>>
>So what do you expect them to do? Contact the FEDs on them?
>If they had a round file, I'm sure such forwards would be
>there. If you're lucky, at least they log the complaints.
>
>
That's the best I was hoping for <shrug> What else are ya gonna do?

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret
had been as old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had
been as full as the waitress', it would have been a very
good dinner." Anonymous.

To reply, remove replace "shcox" with "cox"

On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 03:48:07 GMT, sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 16:03:30 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:
>>
>> I forwarded the whole thing to eBay.
>>
>So what do you expect them to do? Contact the FEDs on them?
>If they had a round file, I'm sure such forwards would be
>there. If you're lucky, at least they log the complaints.

eBay has an interest in tracking down this sort of thing, as it can
affect *their* business. They *request* that the msgs be forwarded to
them. This is not like complaining to your cable co.

i get these all the time, but know straight away that they are spam
cos i do not have an e-bay account.