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notbob 16-12-2004 05:13 PM

Crosspost crap
 
This group is so much more enjoyable since I learned how to configure my
newsreader to killfile all these crap crossposts from newsgroups like
*cardiology*, and *snuff*, and their ilk. Not only do I not have to wade
through all this garbage, but I'm less likely to perpetuate it on to the
rest of the group. Do yourself and the rest of us a favor and learn how to
use the score/filter feature on your own particular newsreader to killfile
(eliminate) these unwelcome crossposts. If you need assistance, just ask
here. Someone will be glad to help.

Thank you,
nb

me 16-12-2004 05:20 PM

notbob,
Please consider this me asking.. will you please tell us/me how to killfile
crossposters?
I use outlook express..
Thanks,
lucy

"notbob" > wrote in message
news:9njwd.509639$wV.492194@attbi_s54...
> This group is so much more enjoyable since I learned how to configure my
> newsreader to killfile all these crap crossposts from newsgroups like
> *cardiology*, and *snuff*, and their ilk. Not only do I not have to wade
> through all this garbage, but I'm less likely to perpetuate it on to the
> rest of the group. Do yourself and the rest of us a favor and learn how
> to
> use the score/filter feature on your own particular newsreader to killfile
> (eliminate) these unwelcome crossposts. If you need assistance, just ask
> here. Someone will be glad to help.
>
> Thank you,
> nb




me 16-12-2004 05:20 PM

notbob,
Please consider this me asking.. will you please tell us/me how to killfile
crossposters?
I use outlook express..
Thanks,
lucy

"notbob" > wrote in message
news:9njwd.509639$wV.492194@attbi_s54...
> This group is so much more enjoyable since I learned how to configure my
> newsreader to killfile all these crap crossposts from newsgroups like
> *cardiology*, and *snuff*, and their ilk. Not only do I not have to wade
> through all this garbage, but I'm less likely to perpetuate it on to the
> rest of the group. Do yourself and the rest of us a favor and learn how
> to
> use the score/filter feature on your own particular newsreader to killfile
> (eliminate) these unwelcome crossposts. If you need assistance, just ask
> here. Someone will be glad to help.
>
> Thank you,
> nb




MOMPEAGRAM 16-12-2004 06:35 PM

Yes. Alt M, S.

"me" > wrote in message
. com...
> notbob,
> Please consider this me asking.. will you please tell us/me how to
> killfile crossposters?
> I use outlook express..
> Thanks,
> lucy
>
> "notbob" > wrote in message
> news:9njwd.509639$wV.492194@attbi_s54...
>> This group is so much more enjoyable since I learned how to configure my
>> newsreader to killfile all these crap crossposts from newsgroups like
>> *cardiology*, and *snuff*, and their ilk. Not only do I not have to wade
>> through all this garbage, but I'm less likely to perpetuate it on to the
>> rest of the group. Do yourself and the rest of us a favor and learn how
>> to
>> use the score/filter feature on your own particular newsreader to
>> killfile
>> (eliminate) these unwelcome crossposts. If you need assistance, just ask
>> here. Someone will be glad to help.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> nb

>
>




limey 16-12-2004 07:06 PM


"notbob" > wrote in message
news:9njwd.509639$wV.492194@attbi_s54...
> This group is so much more enjoyable since I learned how to configure my
> newsreader to killfile all these crap crossposts from newsgroups like
> *cardiology*, and *snuff*, and their ilk. Not only do I not have to wade
> through all this garbage, but I'm less likely to perpetuate it on to the
> rest of the group. Do yourself and the rest of us a favor and learn how
> to
> use the score/filter feature on your own particular newsreader to killfile
> (eliminate) these unwelcome crossposts. If you need assistance, just ask
> here. Someone will be glad to help.
>
> Thank you,
> nb


Is there a way to stop the whole cross-posting thread dead in its tracks in
one operation? It's pretty tiresome to block the first sender by going to
Message > Block Sender, then have to block all the cross-posters who
respond to the first message. I haven't figured out whether Tools>Message
Rule> fills the bill and if, so, how.

Dora



kilikini 16-12-2004 07:09 PM

limey wrote:
> "notbob" > wrote in message
> news:9njwd.509639$wV.492194@attbi_s54...
>> This group is so much more enjoyable since I learned how to
>> configure my newsreader to killfile all these crap crossposts from
>> newsgroups like *cardiology*, and *snuff*, and their ilk. Not only
>> do I not have to wade through all this garbage, but I'm less likely
>> to perpetuate it on to the rest of the group. Do yourself and the
>> rest of us a favor and learn how to
>> use the score/filter feature on your own particular newsreader to
>> killfile (eliminate) these unwelcome crossposts. If you need
>> assistance, just ask here. Someone will be glad to help.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> nb

>
> Is there a way to stop the whole cross-posting thread dead in its
> tracks in one operation? It's pretty tiresome to block the first
> sender by going to Message > Block Sender, then have to block all the
> cross-posters who respond to the first message. I haven't figured
> out whether Tools>Message Rule> fills the bill and if, so, how.
>
> Dora


Dora the Tools>Message Rule thing sort of works if you block specific words
from the subject title. For instance I have Christian, Dr. Chung, stuff
like that blocked (marked as read) so that I don't see those posts anymore.
Wish there was a way to have it see messages in the TO field, but that's not
an option.

kili



kilikini 16-12-2004 07:09 PM

limey wrote:
> "notbob" > wrote in message
> news:9njwd.509639$wV.492194@attbi_s54...
>> This group is so much more enjoyable since I learned how to
>> configure my newsreader to killfile all these crap crossposts from
>> newsgroups like *cardiology*, and *snuff*, and their ilk. Not only
>> do I not have to wade through all this garbage, but I'm less likely
>> to perpetuate it on to the rest of the group. Do yourself and the
>> rest of us a favor and learn how to
>> use the score/filter feature on your own particular newsreader to
>> killfile (eliminate) these unwelcome crossposts. If you need
>> assistance, just ask here. Someone will be glad to help.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> nb

>
> Is there a way to stop the whole cross-posting thread dead in its
> tracks in one operation? It's pretty tiresome to block the first
> sender by going to Message > Block Sender, then have to block all the
> cross-posters who respond to the first message. I haven't figured
> out whether Tools>Message Rule> fills the bill and if, so, how.
>
> Dora


Dora the Tools>Message Rule thing sort of works if you block specific words
from the subject title. For instance I have Christian, Dr. Chung, stuff
like that blocked (marked as read) so that I don't see those posts anymore.
Wish there was a way to have it see messages in the TO field, but that's not
an option.

kili



kilikini 16-12-2004 07:09 PM

limey wrote:
> "notbob" > wrote in message
> news:9njwd.509639$wV.492194@attbi_s54...
>> This group is so much more enjoyable since I learned how to
>> configure my newsreader to killfile all these crap crossposts from
>> newsgroups like *cardiology*, and *snuff*, and their ilk. Not only
>> do I not have to wade through all this garbage, but I'm less likely
>> to perpetuate it on to the rest of the group. Do yourself and the
>> rest of us a favor and learn how to
>> use the score/filter feature on your own particular newsreader to
>> killfile (eliminate) these unwelcome crossposts. If you need
>> assistance, just ask here. Someone will be glad to help.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> nb

>
> Is there a way to stop the whole cross-posting thread dead in its
> tracks in one operation? It's pretty tiresome to block the first
> sender by going to Message > Block Sender, then have to block all the
> cross-posters who respond to the first message. I haven't figured
> out whether Tools>Message Rule> fills the bill and if, so, how.
>
> Dora


Dora the Tools>Message Rule thing sort of works if you block specific words
from the subject title. For instance I have Christian, Dr. Chung, stuff
like that blocked (marked as read) so that I don't see those posts anymore.
Wish there was a way to have it see messages in the TO field, but that's not
an option.

kili



notbob 16-12-2004 07:20 PM

On 2004-12-16, me > wrote:
> notbob,
> Please consider this me asking.. will you please tell us/me how to killfile
> crossposters?
> I use outlook express..


DOH! (slapping forehead)

You would ask about the one newsreader I know absolutely nothing about,
having NEVER used it. ;)

As I currently understand it, you can't killfile crossposts in OE unless
you already subscrib to that particular group. This is one of the
reasons so many M$ users download and use other newsreaders like Agent and
Xnews instead of OE. OTOH, I read some websites that allude to the
possibility of scoring (rating msgs for sorting and/or deleting purposes) in
OE. I'm still researching it, though. I DID say I would help, so I'll try
and find a definitive answer one way or the other by the end of the day. In
the meantime, maybe some other readers here can help with this one
.....anyone?

nb

notbob 16-12-2004 07:20 PM

On 2004-12-16, me > wrote:
> notbob,
> Please consider this me asking.. will you please tell us/me how to killfile
> crossposters?
> I use outlook express..


DOH! (slapping forehead)

You would ask about the one newsreader I know absolutely nothing about,
having NEVER used it. ;)

As I currently understand it, you can't killfile crossposts in OE unless
you already subscrib to that particular group. This is one of the
reasons so many M$ users download and use other newsreaders like Agent and
Xnews instead of OE. OTOH, I read some websites that allude to the
possibility of scoring (rating msgs for sorting and/or deleting purposes) in
OE. I'm still researching it, though. I DID say I would help, so I'll try
and find a definitive answer one way or the other by the end of the day. In
the meantime, maybe some other readers here can help with this one
.....anyone?

nb

jmcquown 16-12-2004 07:27 PM

notbob wrote:
> On 2004-12-16, me > wrote:
>> notbob,
>> Please consider this me asking.. will you please tell us/me how to
>> killfile crossposters?
>> I use outlook express..

>
> DOH! (slapping forehead)
>
> You would ask about the one newsreader I know absolutely nothing
> about, having NEVER used it. ;)
>
> As I currently understand it, you can't killfile crossposts in OE
> unless
> you already subscrib to that particular group.

(snippage)

Not true. I use OE and I don't subscribe to these crossposted groups and in
fact have never visited nor considered visiting most of them.

I know you can killfile entire domains by creating rules to block the
senders; I'd be hard pressed to bother figuring out every single ng from
which someone might be cross posting. It's usually pretty obvious from the
subject what is going to be assinine and cross posted. If you have to read
the first post to figure it out, with OE just mark the thread as IGNORE and
don't bother reading or responding to the replies. My two cents.

Jill



jmcquown 16-12-2004 07:27 PM

notbob wrote:
> On 2004-12-16, me > wrote:
>> notbob,
>> Please consider this me asking.. will you please tell us/me how to
>> killfile crossposters?
>> I use outlook express..

>
> DOH! (slapping forehead)
>
> You would ask about the one newsreader I know absolutely nothing
> about, having NEVER used it. ;)
>
> As I currently understand it, you can't killfile crossposts in OE
> unless
> you already subscrib to that particular group.

(snippage)

Not true. I use OE and I don't subscribe to these crossposted groups and in
fact have never visited nor considered visiting most of them.

I know you can killfile entire domains by creating rules to block the
senders; I'd be hard pressed to bother figuring out every single ng from
which someone might be cross posting. It's usually pretty obvious from the
subject what is going to be assinine and cross posted. If you have to read
the first post to figure it out, with OE just mark the thread as IGNORE and
don't bother reading or responding to the replies. My two cents.

Jill



limey 16-12-2004 07:38 PM


"kilikini" wrote in message
> limey wrote:


>> "notbob" wrote in message
>>> This group is so much more enjoyable since I learned how to
>>> configure my newsreader to killfile all these crap crossposts from
>>> newsgroups like *cardiology*, and *snuff*, and their ilk. Not only
>>> do I not have to wade through all this garbage, but I'm less likely
>>> to perpetuate it on to the rest of the group. Do yourself and the
>>> rest of us a favor and learn how to
>>> use the score/filter feature on your own particular newsreader to
>>> killfile (eliminate) these unwelcome crossposts. If you need
>>> assistance, just ask here. Someone will be glad to help.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> nb

>>
>> Is there a way to stop the whole cross-posting thread dead in its
>> tracks in one operation? It's pretty tiresome to block the first
>> sender by going to Message > Block Sender, then have to block all the
>> cross-posters who respond to the first message. I haven't figured
>> out whether Tools>Message Rule> fills the bill and if, so, how.
>>
>> Dora

>
> Dora the Tools>Message Rule thing sort of works if you block specific
> words
> from the subject title. For instance I have Christian, Dr. Chung, stuff
> like that blocked (marked as read) so that I don't see those posts
> anymore.
> Wish there was a way to have it see messages in the TO field, but that's
> not
> an option.
>
> kili


Thanks, kili. Looks like Jill's suggestion is the best; namely, "Ignore"
the whole thread. The only irritating thing with that is that all the
"ignore" messages move to the very top of the newsposts list (although
grayed out). Better than nothing, though. Please, folks, if you want to
blast the cross-posters please remove rec.food.cooking from the recipients
before you send it.

Dora



[email protected] 16-12-2004 07:40 PM


kilikini wrote:
> > Is there a way to stop the whole cross-posting thread dead in its
> > tracks in one operation? It's pretty tiresome to block the first
> > sender by going to Message > Block Sender, then have to block all

the
> > cross-posters who respond to the first message. I haven't figured
> > out whether Tools>Message Rule> fills the bill and if, so, how.
> >
> > Dora

>
> Dora the Tools>Message Rule thing sort of works if you block specific

words
> from the subject title. For instance I have Christian, Dr. Chung,

stuff
> like that blocked (marked as read) so that I don't see those posts

anymore.
> Wish there was a way to have it see messages in the TO field, but

that's not
> an option.
>
> kili


Might be different on a Mac, but I use OE for newsgroups on my Mac (OS
9.2) and I have been able to block cross-posted garbage by using a
rule. The configuration is "Do Not Display" "any message" where the
"newsgroup is not rec.food.cooking". And by putting it exactly that
way, if there is anything else in the "newsgroup" field....even an
extra period, it will not display it. So if there are multiple ng
names, it doesn't display it.
That works for me. Try it on OE for Windows. See how it does.


[email protected] 16-12-2004 07:40 PM


kilikini wrote:
> > Is there a way to stop the whole cross-posting thread dead in its
> > tracks in one operation? It's pretty tiresome to block the first
> > sender by going to Message > Block Sender, then have to block all

the
> > cross-posters who respond to the first message. I haven't figured
> > out whether Tools>Message Rule> fills the bill and if, so, how.
> >
> > Dora

>
> Dora the Tools>Message Rule thing sort of works if you block specific

words
> from the subject title. For instance I have Christian, Dr. Chung,

stuff
> like that blocked (marked as read) so that I don't see those posts

anymore.
> Wish there was a way to have it see messages in the TO field, but

that's not
> an option.
>
> kili


Might be different on a Mac, but I use OE for newsgroups on my Mac (OS
9.2) and I have been able to block cross-posted garbage by using a
rule. The configuration is "Do Not Display" "any message" where the
"newsgroup is not rec.food.cooking". And by putting it exactly that
way, if there is anything else in the "newsgroup" field....even an
extra period, it will not display it. So if there are multiple ng
names, it doesn't display it.
That works for me. Try it on OE for Windows. See how it does.


BOB 16-12-2004 07:43 PM

wrote:
> kilikini wrote:
>>> Is there a way to stop the whole cross-posting thread dead in its
>>> tracks in one operation? It's pretty tiresome to block the first
>>> sender by going to Message > Block Sender, then have to block all the
>>> cross-posters who respond to the first message. I haven't figured
>>> out whether Tools>Message Rule> fills the bill and if, so, how.
>>>
>>> Dora

>>
>> Dora the Tools>Message Rule thing sort of works if you block specific
>> words from the subject title. For instance I have Christian, Dr.
>> Chung, stuff like that blocked (marked as read) so that I don't see
>> those posts anymore. Wish there was a way to have it see messages in
>> the TO field, but that's not an option.
>>
>> kili

>
> Might be different on a Mac, but I use OE for newsgroups on my Mac (OS
> 9.2) and I have been able to block cross-posted garbage by using a
> rule. The configuration is "Do Not Display" "any message" where the
> "newsgroup is not rec.food.cooking". And by putting it exactly that
> way, if there is anything else in the "newsgroup" field....even an
> extra period, it will not display it. So if there are multiple ng
> names, it doesn't display it.
> That works for me. Try it on OE for Windows. See how it does.


It works for windows also. My rule isn't exactly the same as yours, but
very similar. I also have the same rule set to delete the messages that
fit the particular rule.

BOB



BOB 16-12-2004 07:43 PM

wrote:
> kilikini wrote:
>>> Is there a way to stop the whole cross-posting thread dead in its
>>> tracks in one operation? It's pretty tiresome to block the first
>>> sender by going to Message > Block Sender, then have to block all the
>>> cross-posters who respond to the first message. I haven't figured
>>> out whether Tools>Message Rule> fills the bill and if, so, how.
>>>
>>> Dora

>>
>> Dora the Tools>Message Rule thing sort of works if you block specific
>> words from the subject title. For instance I have Christian, Dr.
>> Chung, stuff like that blocked (marked as read) so that I don't see
>> those posts anymore. Wish there was a way to have it see messages in
>> the TO field, but that's not an option.
>>
>> kili

>
> Might be different on a Mac, but I use OE for newsgroups on my Mac (OS
> 9.2) and I have been able to block cross-posted garbage by using a
> rule. The configuration is "Do Not Display" "any message" where the
> "newsgroup is not rec.food.cooking". And by putting it exactly that
> way, if there is anything else in the "newsgroup" field....even an
> extra period, it will not display it. So if there are multiple ng
> names, it doesn't display it.
> That works for me. Try it on OE for Windows. See how it does.


It works for windows also. My rule isn't exactly the same as yours, but
very similar. I also have the same rule set to delete the messages that
fit the particular rule.

BOB



Gregory Morrow 16-12-2004 09:17 PM


kilikini wrote:

> Dora the Tools>Message Rule thing sort of works if you block specific

words
> from the subject title. For instance I have Christian, Dr. Chung, stuff
> like that blocked (marked as read) so that I don't see those posts

anymore.
> Wish there was a way to have it see messages in the TO field, but that's

not
> an option.



Yep, in OE we don't have that option, AFAIK if we did all one would have to
do is make a "," rule for the "TO" field, that way any x - posts would be
deleted, as all the groups in the "TO" field are separated by commas...

Oh well :-|

--
Best
Greg




Gregory Morrow 16-12-2004 09:17 PM


kilikini wrote:

> Dora the Tools>Message Rule thing sort of works if you block specific

words
> from the subject title. For instance I have Christian, Dr. Chung, stuff
> like that blocked (marked as read) so that I don't see those posts

anymore.
> Wish there was a way to have it see messages in the TO field, but that's

not
> an option.



Yep, in OE we don't have that option, AFAIK if we did all one would have to
do is make a "," rule for the "TO" field, that way any x - posts would be
deleted, as all the groups in the "TO" field are separated by commas...

Oh well :-|

--
Best
Greg




Gregory Morrow 16-12-2004 09:17 PM


kilikini wrote:

> Dora the Tools>Message Rule thing sort of works if you block specific

words
> from the subject title. For instance I have Christian, Dr. Chung, stuff
> like that blocked (marked as read) so that I don't see those posts

anymore.
> Wish there was a way to have it see messages in the TO field, but that's

not
> an option.



Yep, in OE we don't have that option, AFAIK if we did all one would have to
do is make a "," rule for the "TO" field, that way any x - posts would be
deleted, as all the groups in the "TO" field are separated by commas...

Oh well :-|

--
Best
Greg




me 16-12-2004 09:58 PM

You're sweet, notbob.. thank you. And if you can't find anything, don't
worry about it.. I've survived so far by just killfiling the username of the
person doing it, and was hoping I could do it another way, so I could see
their 'sane' posts.. oh well! lol
lucy :)

"notbob" > wrote in message
news:Edlwd.666505$mD.247276@attbi_s02...
> On 2004-12-16, me > wrote:
>> notbob,
>> Please consider this me asking.. will you please tell us/me how to
>> killfile
>> crossposters?
>> I use outlook express..

>
> DOH! (slapping forehead)
>
> You would ask about the one newsreader I know absolutely nothing about,
> having NEVER used it. ;)
>
> As I currently understand it, you can't killfile crossposts in OE unless
> you already subscrib to that particular group. This is one of the
> reasons so many M$ users download and use other newsreaders like Agent and
> Xnews instead of OE. OTOH, I read some websites that allude to the
> possibility of scoring (rating msgs for sorting and/or deleting purposes)
> in
> OE. I'm still researching it, though. I DID say I would help, so I'll
> try
> and find a definitive answer one way or the other by the end of the day.
> In
> the meantime, maybe some other readers here can help with this one
> ....anyone?
>
> nb




me 16-12-2004 09:58 PM

You're sweet, notbob.. thank you. And if you can't find anything, don't
worry about it.. I've survived so far by just killfiling the username of the
person doing it, and was hoping I could do it another way, so I could see
their 'sane' posts.. oh well! lol
lucy :)

"notbob" > wrote in message
news:Edlwd.666505$mD.247276@attbi_s02...
> On 2004-12-16, me > wrote:
>> notbob,
>> Please consider this me asking.. will you please tell us/me how to
>> killfile
>> crossposters?
>> I use outlook express..

>
> DOH! (slapping forehead)
>
> You would ask about the one newsreader I know absolutely nothing about,
> having NEVER used it. ;)
>
> As I currently understand it, you can't killfile crossposts in OE unless
> you already subscrib to that particular group. This is one of the
> reasons so many M$ users download and use other newsreaders like Agent and
> Xnews instead of OE. OTOH, I read some websites that allude to the
> possibility of scoring (rating msgs for sorting and/or deleting purposes)
> in
> OE. I'm still researching it, though. I DID say I would help, so I'll
> try
> and find a definitive answer one way or the other by the end of the day.
> In
> the meantime, maybe some other readers here can help with this one
> ....anyone?
>
> nb




Steve Calvin 16-12-2004 10:01 PM

me wrote:
> You're sweet, notbob.. thank you. And if you can't find anything, don't
> worry about it.. I've survived so far by just killfiling the username of the
> person doing it, and was hoping I could do it another way, so I could see
> their 'sane' posts.. oh well! lol
> lucy :)


I'm not sure about other readers. I still use the Netscape reader. All
I can killfile by username by creating a filter or simply hit the "k"
key on the thread and the reader will ignore the thread from then on.

--
Steve

Why is it that most nudists are people you don't want to see naked?

Steve Calvin 16-12-2004 10:01 PM

me wrote:
> You're sweet, notbob.. thank you. And if you can't find anything, don't
> worry about it.. I've survived so far by just killfiling the username of the
> person doing it, and was hoping I could do it another way, so I could see
> their 'sane' posts.. oh well! lol
> lucy :)


I'm not sure about other readers. I still use the Netscape reader. All
I can killfile by username by creating a filter or simply hit the "k"
key on the thread and the reader will ignore the thread from then on.

--
Steve

Why is it that most nudists are people you don't want to see naked?

Damsel in dis Dress 16-12-2004 10:17 PM

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 21:58:01 GMT, "me" > wrote:

>You're sweet, notbob.. thank you. And if you can't find anything, don't
>worry about it.. I've survived so far by just killfiling the username of the
>person doing it, and was hoping I could do it another way, so I could see
>their 'sane' posts.. oh well! lol
>lucy :)


Hi, Lucy!

I killfile individuals who NEVER make sane posts by their posting name.
There are others who post to point out that someone is being a stinker, but
otherwise make positive contributions to the group. I look at the thread
they just started, and filter that entire thread. There are also a number
of key words, as kilikini suggested, that will be automatically
disregarded. Anything pertaining to politics, race, religion, 2 pound
diets, you get the picture.

I see amazingly few of the crap posts. And I get fewer than half of the
posts made to the group by careful filtering, saving me lots of time for
painting my toenails and eating bonbons.

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Hahabogus 16-12-2004 10:39 PM

"kilikini" > wrote in
m:

> limey wrote:
> > "notbob" > wrote in message
> > news:9njwd.509639$wV.492194@attbi_s54...
> >> This group is so much more enjoyable since I learned how to
> >> configure my newsreader to killfile all these crap crossposts
> >> from newsgroups like *cardiology*, and *snuff*, and their ilk.
> >> Not only do I not have to wade through all this garbage, but I'm
> >> less likely to perpetuate it on to the rest of the group. Do
> >> yourself and the rest of us a favor and learn how to
> >> use the score/filter feature on your own particular newsreader to
> >> killfile (eliminate) these unwelcome crossposts. If you need
> >> assistance, just ask here. Someone will be glad to help.
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> nb

> >
> > Is there a way to stop the whole cross-posting thread dead in its
> > tracks in one operation? It's pretty tiresome to block the first
> > sender by going to Message > Block Sender, then have to block all
> > the cross-posters who respond to the first message. I haven't
> > figured out whether Tools>Message Rule> fills the bill and if, so,
> > how.
> >
> > Dora

>
> Dora the Tools>Message Rule thing sort of works if you block
> specific words from the subject title. For instance I have
> Christian, Dr. Chung, stuff like that blocked (marked as read) so
> that I don't see those posts anymore. Wish there was a way to have
> it see messages in the TO field, but that's not an option.
>
> kili
>
>


If you used the free Xnews you could kill on all of the headers.

--
Starchless in Manitoba.
Type 2 Diabetic 1AC 5.6mmol or 101mg/dl

notbob 17-12-2004 12:37 AM

On 2004-12-16, Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:

> I killfile individuals who NEVER make sane posts by their posting name.
> There are others who post to point out that someone is being a stinker, but
> otherwise make positive contributions to the group. I look at the thread
> they just started, and filter that entire thread. There are also a number
> of key words, as kilikini suggested, that will be automatically
> disregarded. Anything pertaining to politics, race, religion, 2 pound
> diets, you get the picture.


This is because you have a decent newsreader, namely Agent. It looks like
if Lucy wants the same flexibility, she's going to have to change
newsreaders. It appears OE is very limiited in its filtering power.

nb

notbob 17-12-2004 12:37 AM

On 2004-12-16, Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:

> I killfile individuals who NEVER make sane posts by their posting name.
> There are others who post to point out that someone is being a stinker, but
> otherwise make positive contributions to the group. I look at the thread
> they just started, and filter that entire thread. There are also a number
> of key words, as kilikini suggested, that will be automatically
> disregarded. Anything pertaining to politics, race, religion, 2 pound
> diets, you get the picture.


This is because you have a decent newsreader, namely Agent. It looks like
if Lucy wants the same flexibility, she's going to have to change
newsreaders. It appears OE is very limiited in its filtering power.

nb

notbob 17-12-2004 01:12 AM

On 2004-12-16, me > wrote:

> worry about it.. I've survived so far by just killfiling the username of the
> person doing it, and was hoping I could do it another way, so I could see
> their 'sane' posts.. oh well! lol


Well Lucy, it looks like if you want to do a killfile on a whole newsgroup
you're going to hafta use another newsreader. OE just doesn't have the
capability.

The most versatile newsreaders are the one's that have "scoring"
capabilities. This gives you a wide range of possibilities from killfilling
by everything in the header to prioritizing and favoring posts by other
criteria. I can killfile by just one word or even any post that has more
than one newsgroup. To kill that lame cannabalism thread, I killed any post
with "snuff" in the header. The word "cardiology" kills off the whole Dr.
Dung crowd as it seems to be the one newsgroup (ng) that is always in the
list. So, no matter the subject or the author, Dr Dung and his minions are
totally absent from my thread list.

The most popular scoring type newsreader for Windows is Xnews. You can also
get slrn (my fave) for Windows. Slrn is a unix command line type reader,
but it's so good I still prefer it to gui readers, which I used for many
years. If you insist on staying with OE, it appears you can get what you
need by using an add on appy called nfilter:

http://www.nfilter.org/

.....The choice is up to you. You can find everything you want to know
about newsreaders on:

http://www.newsreaders.com/

....and you can ask all the questions you would like on the newsgroup:

news:news.software.readers

hope this helps,
nb

notbob 17-12-2004 01:12 AM

On 2004-12-16, me > wrote:

> worry about it.. I've survived so far by just killfiling the username of the
> person doing it, and was hoping I could do it another way, so I could see
> their 'sane' posts.. oh well! lol


Well Lucy, it looks like if you want to do a killfile on a whole newsgroup
you're going to hafta use another newsreader. OE just doesn't have the
capability.

The most versatile newsreaders are the one's that have "scoring"
capabilities. This gives you a wide range of possibilities from killfilling
by everything in the header to prioritizing and favoring posts by other
criteria. I can killfile by just one word or even any post that has more
than one newsgroup. To kill that lame cannabalism thread, I killed any post
with "snuff" in the header. The word "cardiology" kills off the whole Dr.
Dung crowd as it seems to be the one newsgroup (ng) that is always in the
list. So, no matter the subject or the author, Dr Dung and his minions are
totally absent from my thread list.

The most popular scoring type newsreader for Windows is Xnews. You can also
get slrn (my fave) for Windows. Slrn is a unix command line type reader,
but it's so good I still prefer it to gui readers, which I used for many
years. If you insist on staying with OE, it appears you can get what you
need by using an add on appy called nfilter:

http://www.nfilter.org/

.....The choice is up to you. You can find everything you want to know
about newsreaders on:

http://www.newsreaders.com/

....and you can ask all the questions you would like on the newsgroup:

news:news.software.readers

hope this helps,
nb

Lucy 17-12-2004 09:38 AM

Carol..
Cool idea.. thank you!
lucy :)

"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 21:58:01 GMT, "me" > wrote:
>
>>You're sweet, notbob.. thank you. And if you can't find anything, don't
>>worry about it.. I've survived so far by just killfiling the username of
>>the
>>person doing it, and was hoping I could do it another way, so I could see
>>their 'sane' posts.. oh well! lol
>>lucy :)

>
> Hi, Lucy!
>
> I killfile individuals who NEVER make sane posts by their posting name.
> There are others who post to point out that someone is being a stinker,
> but
> otherwise make positive contributions to the group. I look at the thread
> they just started, and filter that entire thread. There are also a number
> of key words, as kilikini suggested, that will be automatically
> disregarded. Anything pertaining to politics, race, religion, 2 pound
> diets, you get the picture.
>
> I see amazingly few of the crap posts. And I get fewer than half of the
> posts made to the group by careful filtering, saving me lots of time for
> painting my toenails and eating bonbons.
>
> Carol
> --
> "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
> 'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
> Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."
>
> *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_




Lucy 17-12-2004 09:38 AM

Carol..
Cool idea.. thank you!
lucy :)

"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 21:58:01 GMT, "me" > wrote:
>
>>You're sweet, notbob.. thank you. And if you can't find anything, don't
>>worry about it.. I've survived so far by just killfiling the username of
>>the
>>person doing it, and was hoping I could do it another way, so I could see
>>their 'sane' posts.. oh well! lol
>>lucy :)

>
> Hi, Lucy!
>
> I killfile individuals who NEVER make sane posts by their posting name.
> There are others who post to point out that someone is being a stinker,
> but
> otherwise make positive contributions to the group. I look at the thread
> they just started, and filter that entire thread. There are also a number
> of key words, as kilikini suggested, that will be automatically
> disregarded. Anything pertaining to politics, race, religion, 2 pound
> diets, you get the picture.
>
> I see amazingly few of the crap posts. And I get fewer than half of the
> posts made to the group by careful filtering, saving me lots of time for
> painting my toenails and eating bonbons.
>
> Carol
> --
> "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
> 'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
> Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."
>
> *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_




Lucy 17-12-2004 09:39 AM


"notbob" > wrote in message
news:joqwd.770658$8_6.571320@attbi_s04...
> On 2004-12-16, me > wrote:
>
>> worry about it.. I've survived so far by just killfiling the username of
>> the
>> person doing it, and was hoping I could do it another way, so I could see
>> their 'sane' posts.. oh well! lol

>
> Well Lucy, it looks like if you want to do a killfile on a whole newsgroup
> you're going to hafta use another newsreader. OE just doesn't have the
> capability.


notbob, I didn't ask how to killfile the whole newsgroup.. just the weirdos
(although I see how you could think that, hehe).
Carol had a great suggestion..
Thanks everyone!
lucy :)

>
> The most versatile newsreaders are the one's that have "scoring"
> capabilities. This gives you a wide range of possibilities from
> killfilling
> by everything in the header to prioritizing and favoring posts by other
> criteria. I can killfile by just one word or even any post that has more
> than one newsgroup. To kill that lame cannabalism thread, I killed any
> post
> with "snuff" in the header. The word "cardiology" kills off the whole Dr.
> Dung crowd as it seems to be the one newsgroup (ng) that is always in the
> list. So, no matter the subject or the author, Dr Dung and his minions
> are
> totally absent from my thread list.
>
> The most popular scoring type newsreader for Windows is Xnews. You can
> also
> get slrn (my fave) for Windows. Slrn is a unix command line type reader,
> but it's so good I still prefer it to gui readers, which I used for many
> years. If you insist on staying with OE, it appears you can get what you
> need by using an add on appy called nfilter:
>
> http://www.nfilter.org/
>
> ....The choice is up to you. You can find everything you want to know
> about newsreaders on:
>
> http://www.newsreaders.com/
>
> ...and you can ask all the questions you would like on the newsgroup:
>
> news:news.software.readers
>
> hope this helps,
> nb




Lucy 17-12-2004 09:39 AM


"notbob" > wrote in message
news:joqwd.770658$8_6.571320@attbi_s04...
> On 2004-12-16, me > wrote:
>
>> worry about it.. I've survived so far by just killfiling the username of
>> the
>> person doing it, and was hoping I could do it another way, so I could see
>> their 'sane' posts.. oh well! lol

>
> Well Lucy, it looks like if you want to do a killfile on a whole newsgroup
> you're going to hafta use another newsreader. OE just doesn't have the
> capability.


notbob, I didn't ask how to killfile the whole newsgroup.. just the weirdos
(although I see how you could think that, hehe).
Carol had a great suggestion..
Thanks everyone!
lucy :)

>
> The most versatile newsreaders are the one's that have "scoring"
> capabilities. This gives you a wide range of possibilities from
> killfilling
> by everything in the header to prioritizing and favoring posts by other
> criteria. I can killfile by just one word or even any post that has more
> than one newsgroup. To kill that lame cannabalism thread, I killed any
> post
> with "snuff" in the header. The word "cardiology" kills off the whole Dr.
> Dung crowd as it seems to be the one newsgroup (ng) that is always in the
> list. So, no matter the subject or the author, Dr Dung and his minions
> are
> totally absent from my thread list.
>
> The most popular scoring type newsreader for Windows is Xnews. You can
> also
> get slrn (my fave) for Windows. Slrn is a unix command line type reader,
> but it's so good I still prefer it to gui readers, which I used for many
> years. If you insist on staying with OE, it appears you can get what you
> need by using an add on appy called nfilter:
>
> http://www.nfilter.org/
>
> ....The choice is up to you. You can find everything you want to know
> about newsreaders on:
>
> http://www.newsreaders.com/
>
> ...and you can ask all the questions you would like on the newsgroup:
>
> news:news.software.readers
>
> hope this helps,
> nb




blake murphy 18-12-2004 01:34 AM

On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 00:37:56 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2004-12-16, Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:
>
>> I killfile individuals who NEVER make sane posts by their posting name.
>> There are others who post to point out that someone is being a stinker, but
>> otherwise make positive contributions to the group. I look at the thread
>> they just started, and filter that entire thread. There are also a number
>> of key words, as kilikini suggested, that will be automatically
>> disregarded. Anything pertaining to politics, race, religion, 2 pound
>> diets, you get the picture.

>
>This is because you have a decent newsreader, namely Agent. It looks like
>if Lucy wants the same flexibility, she's going to have to change
>newsreaders. It appears OE is very limiited in its filtering power.
>
>nb


i use agent, but i can't see how to filter crossposts.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy 18-12-2004 01:34 AM

On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 00:37:56 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2004-12-16, Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:
>
>> I killfile individuals who NEVER make sane posts by their posting name.
>> There are others who post to point out that someone is being a stinker, but
>> otherwise make positive contributions to the group. I look at the thread
>> they just started, and filter that entire thread. There are also a number
>> of key words, as kilikini suggested, that will be automatically
>> disregarded. Anything pertaining to politics, race, religion, 2 pound
>> diets, you get the picture.

>
>This is because you have a decent newsreader, namely Agent. It looks like
>if Lucy wants the same flexibility, she's going to have to change
>newsreaders. It appears OE is very limiited in its filtering power.
>
>nb


i use agent, but i can't see how to filter crossposts.

your pal,
blake

Damsel in dis Dress 18-12-2004 01:46 AM

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 01:34:32 GMT, blake murphy >
wrote:

>i use agent, but i can't see how to filter crossposts.


Me neither. You've just got to decide which topics you know you don't
want to hear about, and put permanent filters on keywords. And permanent
filters on certain posters. I'm too attached to Agent by this point to
change to something that'll do a little more.

Carol, getting set in her ways
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Damsel in dis Dress 18-12-2004 01:46 AM

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 01:34:32 GMT, blake murphy >
wrote:

>i use agent, but i can't see how to filter crossposts.


Me neither. You've just got to decide which topics you know you don't
want to hear about, and put permanent filters on keywords. And permanent
filters on certain posters. I'm too attached to Agent by this point to
change to something that'll do a little more.

Carol, getting set in her ways
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Dave W. 18-12-2004 01:56 AM

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:
>
> i use agent, but i can't see how to filter crossposts.
>
> your pal,
> blake


I've tried, but never succeeded to get shed of crossposts. I 'm on a Mac
with Newswatcher and there are apparently some powerful filters
available. I just can't get them to work.

You are supposed to be able to get rid of crossposts with something like:
Kill if Xref contains "[^ ]+,[^ ]+,[^ ]+"
Whatever that means. In any case, it doesn't work for me.

I have, though, apparently wiped out a slew of garbage from rfc with:
Kill if Xref contains sci.med.cardiology

All the Chung garbage is gone. The only loss I can see is that Pastorio
apparently gets killed a bit .... his posts are often way cool. But the
crossposts were a pain in the posterior and I'll do without some
Pastorio to avoid the tedious religious threads.

Regards,
Dave W.

--
Living in the Ozarks
For email, edu will do.

Dave W. 18-12-2004 01:56 AM

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:
>
> i use agent, but i can't see how to filter crossposts.
>
> your pal,
> blake


I've tried, but never succeeded to get shed of crossposts. I 'm on a Mac
with Newswatcher and there are apparently some powerful filters
available. I just can't get them to work.

You are supposed to be able to get rid of crossposts with something like:
Kill if Xref contains "[^ ]+,[^ ]+,[^ ]+"
Whatever that means. In any case, it doesn't work for me.

I have, though, apparently wiped out a slew of garbage from rfc with:
Kill if Xref contains sci.med.cardiology

All the Chung garbage is gone. The only loss I can see is that Pastorio
apparently gets killed a bit .... his posts are often way cool. But the
crossposts were a pain in the posterior and I'll do without some
Pastorio to avoid the tedious religious threads.

Regards,
Dave W.

--
Living in the Ozarks
For email, edu will do.


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