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We have eaten in a restaurant exactly once in 38 years on
Christmas Eve and even though the service and food was very
good, it made me feel VERY guilty that all the personnel
involved were working and not able to be home with their
own families at the time. And. no, I don't think it was their
choice to work that day.

I'll never do it again, even if the alternative is toast
and tea or crackers and cheese for dinner. Holidays are for
family and no one should HAVE to work.

Anyone else?

gloria p
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Puester wrote:


> I'll never do it again, even if the alternative is toast
> and tea or crackers and cheese for dinner. Holidays are for
> family and no one should HAVE to work.
>
> Anyone else?
>
> gloria p


I wish that were the case
I work (Nursing) more Christmas eves and Christmas
days than I want to count. I'm actually off
(shocked!) this year, but was scheduled to work
Thanksgiving day and NY's eve, so it worked out
for me.
Goomba

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Puester wrote:


> I'll never do it again, even if the alternative is toast
> and tea or crackers and cheese for dinner. Holidays are for
> family and no one should HAVE to work.
>
> Anyone else?
>
> gloria p


I wish that were the case
I work (Nursing) more Christmas eves and Christmas
days than I want to count. I'm actually off
(shocked!) this year, but was scheduled to work
Thanksgiving day and NY's eve, so it worked out
for me.
Goomba

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Puester wrote:

> We have eaten in a restaurant exactly once in 38 years on
> Christmas Eve and even though the service and food was very
> good, it made me feel VERY guilty that all the personnel
> involved were working and not able to be home with their
> own families at the time. And. no, I don't think it was their
> choice to work that day.
>
> I'll never do it again, even if the alternative is toast
> and tea or crackers and cheese for dinner. Holidays are for
> family and no one should HAVE to work.
>


I agree, and the same goes for stores staying open late on Christmas
Eve, and those Boxing Day Sales. Everyone should take a few days off.
The world won't come to an end if the cash registers stop for a few
days. Their being open does not increase the money we have to spend in
their stores.
I am also not a fan of Sunday shopping. We need a common day of rest so
people can get together and enjoy a day off.


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Puester wrote:

> We have eaten in a restaurant exactly once in 38 years on
> Christmas Eve and even though the service and food was very
> good, it made me feel VERY guilty that all the personnel
> involved were working and not able to be home with their
> own families at the time. And. no, I don't think it was their
> choice to work that day.
>
> I'll never do it again, even if the alternative is toast
> and tea or crackers and cheese for dinner. Holidays are for
> family and no one should HAVE to work.
>


I agree, and the same goes for stores staying open late on Christmas
Eve, and those Boxing Day Sales. Everyone should take a few days off.
The world won't come to an end if the cash registers stop for a few
days. Their being open does not increase the money we have to spend in
their stores.
I am also not a fan of Sunday shopping. We need a common day of rest so
people can get together and enjoy a day off.




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Puester wrote:
> We have eaten in a restaurant exactly once in 38 years on
> Christmas Eve and even though the service and food was very
> good, it made me feel VERY guilty that all the personnel
> involved were working and not able to be home with their
> own families at the time. And. no, I don't think it was their
> choice to work that day.
>
> I'll never do it again, even if the alternative is toast
> and tea or crackers and cheese for dinner. Holidays are for
> family and no one should HAVE to work.
>
> Anyone else?
>
> gloria p


I'm with you, however there *are* people who don't celebrate Christmas who
might want to go out to eat. And this year it's Friday night, normally a
BIG ticket night for restaurants.

I wish those who have to work on what they would consider a holiday would be
paid extra for doing so. Unfortunately, in my experience, they are usually
told show up for your shift or find another job.

Jill


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Puester wrote:
> We have eaten in a restaurant exactly once in 38 years on
> Christmas Eve and even though the service and food was very
> good, it made me feel VERY guilty that all the personnel
> involved were working and not able to be home with their
> own families at the time. And. no, I don't think it was their
> choice to work that day.
>
> I'll never do it again, even if the alternative is toast
> and tea or crackers and cheese for dinner. Holidays are for
> family and no one should HAVE to work.
>
> Anyone else?
>
> gloria p


I'm with you, however there *are* people who don't celebrate Christmas who
might want to go out to eat. And this year it's Friday night, normally a
BIG ticket night for restaurants.

I wish those who have to work on what they would consider a holiday would be
paid extra for doing so. Unfortunately, in my experience, they are usually
told show up for your shift or find another job.

Jill


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jmcquown wrote:
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> Puester wrote:
> > We have eaten in a restaurant exactly once in 38 years on
> > Christmas Eve and even though the service and food was very
> > good, it made me feel VERY guilty that all the personnel
> > involved were working and not able to be home with their
> > own families at the time. And. no, I don't think it was their
> > choice to work that day.
> >
> > I'll never do it again, even if the alternative is toast
> > and tea or crackers and cheese for dinner. Holidays are for
> > family and no one should HAVE to work.
> >
> > Anyone else?
> >
> > gloria p

>
> I'm with you, however there *are* people who don't celebrate Christmas who
> might want to go out to eat. And this year it's Friday night, normally a
> BIG ticket night for restaurants.
>
> I wish those who have to work on what they would consider a holiday would be
> paid extra for doing so. Unfortunately, in my experience, they are usually
> told show up for your shift or find another job.


One year (perhaps a lot of years, I don't know), the post office
offered Christmas day delivery. I thought, man, that's terrible.
Then I thought, get a grip, why do you assume all the employees
are Christians. Probably a lot of employees of different religions
were happy to get double time for working Christmas.

nancy
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jmcquown wrote:
>
> Puester wrote:
> > We have eaten in a restaurant exactly once in 38 years on
> > Christmas Eve and even though the service and food was very
> > good, it made me feel VERY guilty that all the personnel
> > involved were working and not able to be home with their
> > own families at the time. And. no, I don't think it was their
> > choice to work that day.
> >
> > I'll never do it again, even if the alternative is toast
> > and tea or crackers and cheese for dinner. Holidays are for
> > family and no one should HAVE to work.
> >
> > Anyone else?
> >
> > gloria p

>
> I'm with you, however there *are* people who don't celebrate Christmas who
> might want to go out to eat. And this year it's Friday night, normally a
> BIG ticket night for restaurants.
>
> I wish those who have to work on what they would consider a holiday would be
> paid extra for doing so. Unfortunately, in my experience, they are usually
> told show up for your shift or find another job.


One year (perhaps a lot of years, I don't know), the post office
offered Christmas day delivery. I thought, man, that's terrible.
Then I thought, get a grip, why do you assume all the employees
are Christians. Probably a lot of employees of different religions
were happy to get double time for working Christmas.

nancy
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jmcquown wrote:
> Puester wrote:
>
>>We have eaten in a restaurant exactly once in 38 years on
>>Christmas Eve and even though the service and food was very
>>good, it made me feel VERY guilty that all the personnel
>>involved were working and not able to be home with their
>>own families at the time. And. no, I don't think it was their
>>choice to work that day.
>>
>>I'll never do it again, even if the alternative is toast
>>and tea or crackers and cheese for dinner. Holidays are for
>>family and no one should HAVE to work.
>>
>>Anyone else?
>>
>>gloria p

>
>
> I'm with you, however there *are* people who don't celebrate Christmas who
> might want to go out to eat. And this year it's Friday night, normally a
> BIG ticket night for restaurants.
>
> I wish those who have to work on what they would consider a holiday would be
> paid extra for doing so. Unfortunately, in my experience, they are usually
> told show up for your shift or find another job.



I know some wait staff that volunteer to work holidays even when there
is no additional holiday pay involved. Perhaps they are not celebrating
and do it to let others have the day off (goes for a lot of other
places, too).

In addition, when I waited tables to fill in on the holidays for
vacationing staff at a friend's restaurant back in the mid-80s, my tips
were way above the norm and it was not because of my expertise.


jim


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>, it made me feel VERY guilty that all the personnel
>involved were working and not able to be home with their
>own families


>I'll never do it again, even if the alternative is toast
>and tea or crackers and cheese for dinner. Holidays are for
>family and no one should HAVE to work.


When I was younger going to school I worked as a waitress at Bob's Big Boy. I
worked one Christmas Eve and the worst part was that the tips were lousy.

So if you have to go out --make the tip worthwhile.

We had to drive 6 hours for thanksgiving last year and when we found an open
Burger King the first thing I did at the drivethrough window was thank all the
people working so we could have lunch. Guess we could have packed a lunch.

Joelle
The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
Augustine
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>, it made me feel VERY guilty that all the personnel
>involved were working and not able to be home with their
>own families


>I'll never do it again, even if the alternative is toast
>and tea or crackers and cheese for dinner. Holidays are for
>family and no one should HAVE to work.


When I was younger going to school I worked as a waitress at Bob's Big Boy. I
worked one Christmas Eve and the worst part was that the tips were lousy.

So if you have to go out --make the tip worthwhile.

We had to drive 6 hours for thanksgiving last year and when we found an open
Burger King the first thing I did at the drivethrough window was thank all the
people working so we could have lunch. Guess we could have packed a lunch.

Joelle
The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
Augustine
Joelle
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>Puester wrote:
>> We have eaten in a restaurant exactly once in 38 years on
>> Christmas Eve and even though the service and food was very
>> good, it made me feel VERY guilty that all the personnel
>> involved were working and not able to be home with their
>> own families at the time. And. no, I don't think it was their
>> choice to work that day.
>>
>> I'll never do it again, even if the alternative is toast
>> and tea or crackers and cheese for dinner. Holidays are for
>> family and no one should HAVE to work.
>>
>> Anyone else?


You need to expand your horizon... most (the vast majority) of the world's
population does not celebrate Christmas - shocked, eh - and many don't
celebrate their New Year on Jan.1. For many years my New Year's day ritual has
been to wake up late and to have an early dinner at a local Chinese retaurant.
So where do you live that everyone is WASP?


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"Puester" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> We have eaten in a restaurant exactly once in 38 years on
> Christmas Eve and even though the service and food was very
> good, it made me feel VERY guilty that all the personnel
> involved were working and not able to be home with their
> own families at the time. And. no, I don't think it was their
> choice to work that day.
>
> I'll never do it again, even if the alternative is toast
> and tea or crackers and cheese for dinner. Holidays are for
> family and no one should HAVE to work.
>
> Anyone else?
>
> gloria p

No one? I'm glad there are some people willing to work on the holidays, and
am very grateful to them. Think of your security alarm, if you have one.. it
is monitored. 911 emergency operators, firemen, emergency room personnel,
transportation personnel that ensure we get to our loved ones homes for the
holidays.. and the list goes on.
lucy


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"Puester" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> We have eaten in a restaurant exactly once in 38 years on
> Christmas Eve and even though the service and food was very
> good, it made me feel VERY guilty that all the personnel
> involved were working and not able to be home with their
> own families at the time. And. no, I don't think it was their
> choice to work that day.
>
> I'll never do it again, even if the alternative is toast
> and tea or crackers and cheese for dinner. Holidays are for
> family and no one should HAVE to work.
>
> Anyone else?
>
> gloria p

No one? I'm glad there are some people willing to work on the holidays, and
am very grateful to them. Think of your security alarm, if you have one.. it
is monitored. 911 emergency operators, firemen, emergency room personnel,
transportation personnel that ensure we get to our loved ones homes for the
holidays.. and the list goes on.
lucy




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Nancy Young wrote:

> One year (perhaps a lot of years, I don't know), the post office
> offered Christmas day delivery. I thought, man, that's terrible.
> Then I thought, get a grip, why do you assume all the employees
> are Christians. Probably a lot of employees of different religions
> were happy to get double time for working Christmas.


Isn't it nice that some people will do that... for double time. I wonder what it
would take for all businesses to just stay open every day and pay the premium. We
would end up without any holidays.


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Nancy Young wrote:

> One year (perhaps a lot of years, I don't know), the post office
> offered Christmas day delivery. I thought, man, that's terrible.
> Then I thought, get a grip, why do you assume all the employees
> are Christians. Probably a lot of employees of different religions
> were happy to get double time for working Christmas.


Isn't it nice that some people will do that... for double time. I wonder what it
would take for all businesses to just stay open every day and pay the premium. We
would end up without any holidays.


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> >Puester wrote:
> >> We have eaten in a restaurant exactly once in 38 years on
> >> Christmas Eve and even though the service and food was very
> >> good, it made me feel VERY guilty that all the personnel
> >> involved were working and not able to be home with their
> >> own families at the time. And. no, I don't think it was their
> >> choice to work that day.
> >>
> >> I'll never do it again, even if the alternative is toast
> >> and tea or crackers and cheese for dinner. Holidays are for
> >> family and no one should HAVE to work.
> >>
> >> Anyone else?

>
>We've gone out exactly one Christmas Eve in all my life. My mother-in-law was in the hospital getting a kidney transplant in another state. We went to spend Christmas Eve and Day with her, so after visiting in the hospital we went out to dinner. It's not like we wanted to eat peanuts from the minibar in the hotel for Christmas Eve dinner! So, sometimes your situation dictates a course of action you wouldn't normally follow.


We actually have fond memories of that night because it was the beginning of
Mom's road to recovery!

Tracy
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> >Puester wrote:
> >> We have eaten in a restaurant exactly once in 38 years on
> >> Christmas Eve and even though the service and food was very
> >> good, it made me feel VERY guilty that all the personnel
> >> involved were working and not able to be home with their
> >> own families at the time. And. no, I don't think it was their
> >> choice to work that day.
> >>
> >> I'll never do it again, even if the alternative is toast
> >> and tea or crackers and cheese for dinner. Holidays are for
> >> family and no one should HAVE to work.
> >>
> >> Anyone else?

>
>We've gone out exactly one Christmas Eve in all my life. My mother-in-law was in the hospital getting a kidney transplant in another state. We went to spend Christmas Eve and Day with her, so after visiting in the hospital we went out to dinner. It's not like we wanted to eat peanuts from the minibar in the hotel for Christmas Eve dinner! So, sometimes your situation dictates a course of action you wouldn't normally follow.


We actually have fond memories of that night because it was the beginning of
Mom's road to recovery!

Tracy
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Dave Smith wrote:
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> Nancy Young wrote:
>
> > One year (perhaps a lot of years, I don't know), the post office
> > offered Christmas day delivery. I thought, man, that's terrible.
> > Then I thought, get a grip, why do you assume all the employees
> > are Christians. Probably a lot of employees of different religions
> > were happy to get double time for working Christmas.

>
> Isn't it nice that some people will do that... for double time. I wonder what it
> would take for all businesses to just stay open every day and pay the premium. We
> would end up without any holidays.


Crap, I worked many a holiday for FREE. Welcome to corporate america.

nancy


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Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Nancy Young wrote:
>
> > One year (perhaps a lot of years, I don't know), the post office
> > offered Christmas day delivery. I thought, man, that's terrible.
> > Then I thought, get a grip, why do you assume all the employees
> > are Christians. Probably a lot of employees of different religions
> > were happy to get double time for working Christmas.

>
> Isn't it nice that some people will do that... for double time. I wonder what it
> would take for all businesses to just stay open every day and pay the premium. We
> would end up without any holidays.


Crap, I worked many a holiday for FREE. Welcome to corporate america.

nancy
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In article >,
Puester > wrote:

> We have eaten in a restaurant exactly once in 38 years on
> Christmas Eve and even though the service and food was very
> good, it made me feel VERY guilty that all the personnel
> involved were working and not able to be home with their
> own families at the time. And. no, I don't think it was their
> choice to work that day.
>
> I'll never do it again, even if the alternative is toast
> and tea or crackers and cheese for dinner. Holidays are for
> family and no one should HAVE to work.
>
> Anyone else?
>

We'll be in the Florida Keys on Christmas Eve, so home cooking will not
be an option. Before and after our jaunt to the Keys, we'll be with
SO's mother in Miami, and cooking may not be done there.

Cindy

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In article >,
Puester > wrote:

> We have eaten in a restaurant exactly once in 38 years on
> Christmas Eve and even though the service and food was very
> good, it made me feel VERY guilty that all the personnel
> involved were working and not able to be home with their
> own families at the time. And. no, I don't think it was their
> choice to work that day.
>
> I'll never do it again, even if the alternative is toast
> and tea or crackers and cheese for dinner. Holidays are for
> family and no one should HAVE to work.
>
> Anyone else?
>

We'll be in the Florida Keys on Christmas Eve, so home cooking will not
be an option. Before and after our jaunt to the Keys, we'll be with
SO's mother in Miami, and cooking may not be done there.

Cindy

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Nancy Young wrote:

> > Isn't it nice that some people will do that... for double time. I wonder what it
> > would take for all businesses to just stay open every day and pay the premium. We
> > would end up without any holidays.

>
> Crap, I worked many a holiday for FREE. Welcome to corporate america.


I only had to work Christmas a few times. While at university I had a part time job
looking after the rats in the lab, so I had to go in for about an hour. One winter I
drove a snow plow and was scheduled for Christmas Day. Wouldn't you know.... it
snowed. I ended up working overtime. That worst part was that we got paid for the day
and paid time and a half for working it. So I was making double time and a half. When
the end of my shift came along and I was on overtime I dropped to time and an half, a
pay cut to work overtime :-)

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Nancy Young wrote:

> > Isn't it nice that some people will do that... for double time. I wonder what it
> > would take for all businesses to just stay open every day and pay the premium. We
> > would end up without any holidays.

>
> Crap, I worked many a holiday for FREE. Welcome to corporate america.


I only had to work Christmas a few times. While at university I had a part time job
looking after the rats in the lab, so I had to go in for about an hour. One winter I
drove a snow plow and was scheduled for Christmas Day. Wouldn't you know.... it
snowed. I ended up working overtime. That worst part was that we got paid for the day
and paid time and a half for working it. So I was making double time and a half. When
the end of my shift came along and I was on overtime I dropped to time and an half, a
pay cut to work overtime :-)



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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 16:38:58 GMT, Puester >
wrote:

>
>
>We have eaten in a restaurant exactly once in 38 years on
>Christmas Eve and even though the service and food was very
>good, it made me feel VERY guilty that all the personnel
>involved were working and not able to be home with their
>own families at the time. And. no, I don't think it was their
>choice to work that day.
>
>I'll never do it again, even if the alternative is toast
>and tea or crackers and cheese for dinner. Holidays are for
>family and no one should HAVE to work.
>
>Anyone else?
>
>gloria p


I know what you mean, but there have been times when it was not
possible for us to cook on Christmas Eve. The year we were in New
Orleans, for example.

We left a very generous tip, for what it's worth.


modom

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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 16:38:58 GMT, Puester >
wrote:

>
>
>We have eaten in a restaurant exactly once in 38 years on
>Christmas Eve and even though the service and food was very
>good, it made me feel VERY guilty that all the personnel
>involved were working and not able to be home with their
>own families at the time. And. no, I don't think it was their
>choice to work that day.
>
>I'll never do it again, even if the alternative is toast
>and tea or crackers and cheese for dinner. Holidays are for
>family and no one should HAVE to work.
>
>Anyone else?
>
>gloria p


I know what you mean, but there have been times when it was not
possible for us to cook on Christmas Eve. The year we were in New
Orleans, for example.

We left a very generous tip, for what it's worth.


modom

"Dallas is a rich man with a death wish in his eyes."
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"jmcquown" > wrote in
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> Puester wrote:
> > We have eaten in a restaurant exactly once in 38 years on
> > Christmas Eve and even though the service and food was very
> > good, it made me feel VERY guilty that all the personnel
> > involved were working and not able to be home with their
> > own families at the time. And. no, I don't think it was their
> > choice to work that day.
> >
> > I'll never do it again, even if the alternative is toast
> > and tea or crackers and cheese for dinner. Holidays are for
> > family and no one should HAVE to work.
> >
> > Anyone else?
> >
> > gloria p

>
> I'm with you, however there *are* people who don't celebrate
> Christmas who might want to go out to eat. And this year it's
> Friday night, normally a BIG ticket night for restaurants.
>
> I wish those who have to work on what they would consider a holiday
> would be paid extra for doing so. Unfortunately, in my experience,
> they are usually told show up for your shift or find another job.
>
> Jill
>
>
>


While my mother was alive, she'd order a xmas dinner...turkey, veggies,
stuffing, several pies...the whole 9 yards...from a largish hotel and
we'd pick up diner on the way to her house. She was a semi-invalid and if
she'd have tried to cook xmas dinner it wouldn't of worked out well.
Several of the large hotels in town offered this service. You did
although have to order weeks in advance.

--
Starchless in Manitoba.
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"jmcquown" > wrote in
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> Puester wrote:
> > We have eaten in a restaurant exactly once in 38 years on
> > Christmas Eve and even though the service and food was very
> > good, it made me feel VERY guilty that all the personnel
> > involved were working and not able to be home with their
> > own families at the time. And. no, I don't think it was their
> > choice to work that day.
> >
> > I'll never do it again, even if the alternative is toast
> > and tea or crackers and cheese for dinner. Holidays are for
> > family and no one should HAVE to work.
> >
> > Anyone else?
> >
> > gloria p

>
> I'm with you, however there *are* people who don't celebrate
> Christmas who might want to go out to eat. And this year it's
> Friday night, normally a BIG ticket night for restaurants.
>
> I wish those who have to work on what they would consider a holiday
> would be paid extra for doing so. Unfortunately, in my experience,
> they are usually told show up for your shift or find another job.
>
> Jill
>
>
>


While my mother was alive, she'd order a xmas dinner...turkey, veggies,
stuffing, several pies...the whole 9 yards...from a largish hotel and
we'd pick up diner on the way to her house. She was a semi-invalid and if
she'd have tried to cook xmas dinner it wouldn't of worked out well.
Several of the large hotels in town offered this service. You did
although have to order weeks in advance.

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The entire time I was unmarried and worked as an X-ray technician I was
assigned to work almost every Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year=B4s
Eve. Employers seem to think that unmarried personnel don=B4t have lives
to lead also.=20

Sandi



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The entire time I was unmarried and worked as an X-ray technician I was
assigned to work almost every Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year=B4s
Eve. Employers seem to think that unmarried personnel don=B4t have lives
to lead also.=20

Sandi

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Nancy Young > wrote in
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> Crap, I worked many a holiday for FREE. Welcome to corporate
> america.


You should never work for free. If you do, your employer will fail to
assess the value of your labour at its just rate and you will
persistently be underremunerated. Of course, if you WANT to be
underremunerated, then you're doing the right thing (I am of course
being facetious here).

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Nancy Young > wrote in
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> Crap, I worked many a holiday for FREE. Welcome to corporate
> america.


You should never work for free. If you do, your employer will fail to
assess the value of your labour at its just rate and you will
persistently be underremunerated. Of course, if you WANT to be
underremunerated, then you're doing the right thing (I am of course
being facetious here).

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"It is easier for a rich man to enter heaven seated
comfortably on the back of a camel, than it is for
a poor man to pass through the eye of a needle."

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Michel Boucher wrote:
> Nancy Young > wrote in
> :
>
>> Crap, I worked many a holiday for FREE. Welcome to corporate
>> america.

>
> You should never work for free. If you do, your employer will fail to
> assess the value of your labour at its just rate and you will
> persistently be underremunerated. Of course, if you WANT to be
> underremunerated, then you're doing the right thing (I am of course
> being facetious here).


(taking facetiousness into account) Of course she means she was on salary -
there's another term for it I can't think of right now - therefore you don't
get paid overtime for *anything* regardless of the date or time. At times
it's beneficial - you get paid for holidays you don't work. Hourly
employees such as restaurant workers don't get paid if they don't work.

Jill


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Michel Boucher wrote:
> Nancy Young > wrote in
> :
>
>> Crap, I worked many a holiday for FREE. Welcome to corporate
>> america.

>
> You should never work for free. If you do, your employer will fail to
> assess the value of your labour at its just rate and you will
> persistently be underremunerated. Of course, if you WANT to be
> underremunerated, then you're doing the right thing (I am of course
> being facetious here).


(taking facetiousness into account) Of course she means she was on salary -
there's another term for it I can't think of right now - therefore you don't
get paid overtime for *anything* regardless of the date or time. At times
it's beneficial - you get paid for holidays you don't work. Hourly
employees such as restaurant workers don't get paid if they don't work.

Jill




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Sandi wrote:
> The entire time I was unmarried and worked as an X-ray technician I
> was assigned to work almost every Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New
> Years Eve. Employers seem to think that unmarried personnel dont have
> lives to lead also.
>
> Sandi


I've experienced that. The office closed early before major holidays but
someone had to stay to man the help desk until regular closing. I remember
it being *strongly* suggested I stay when we closed early on Christmas Eve,
rather than them asking the guy with a wife and 2 kids to do so. Christmas
Eve couldn't possibly be important to me, right?

As compensation, however, I got to leave early on July 3rd for Independence
Day. Turned out the guy who got to leave early on Christmas Eve would have
rather been able to leave early to go to a big picnic for Independence Day
whereas I had a party to attend Christmas Eve.

Apparently they didn't consult *him* about these early leave days, just me,
the poor single female. LOL

Jill


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Sandi wrote:
> The entire time I was unmarried and worked as an X-ray technician I
> was assigned to work almost every Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New
> Years Eve. Employers seem to think that unmarried personnel dont have
> lives to lead also.
>
> Sandi


I've experienced that. The office closed early before major holidays but
someone had to stay to man the help desk until regular closing. I remember
it being *strongly* suggested I stay when we closed early on Christmas Eve,
rather than them asking the guy with a wife and 2 kids to do so. Christmas
Eve couldn't possibly be important to me, right?

As compensation, however, I got to leave early on July 3rd for Independence
Day. Turned out the guy who got to leave early on Christmas Eve would have
rather been able to leave early to go to a big picnic for Independence Day
whereas I had a party to attend Christmas Eve.

Apparently they didn't consult *him* about these early leave days, just me,
the poor single female. LOL

Jill


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Michel Boucher wrote:
>
> Nancy Young > wrote in
> :
>
> > Crap, I worked many a holiday for FREE. Welcome to corporate
> > america.

>
> You should never work for free. If you do, your employer will fail to
> assess the value of your labour at its just rate and you will
> persistently be underremunerated. Of course, if you WANT to be
> underremunerated, then you're doing the right thing (I am of course
> being facetious here).


(heh) Exempt workers or salaried workers are different from hourly
workers. At some stage you are expected to just get the job done.
No watching the clock.

nancy
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Michel Boucher wrote:
>
> Nancy Young > wrote in
> :
>
> > Crap, I worked many a holiday for FREE. Welcome to corporate
> > america.

>
> You should never work for free. If you do, your employer will fail to
> assess the value of your labour at its just rate and you will
> persistently be underremunerated. Of course, if you WANT to be
> underremunerated, then you're doing the right thing (I am of course
> being facetious here).


(heh) Exempt workers or salaried workers are different from hourly
workers. At some stage you are expected to just get the job done.
No watching the clock.

nancy
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Michel Boucher wrote:

> Nancy Young > wrote in
> :
>
>
>>Crap, I worked many a holiday for FREE. Welcome to corporate
>>america.

>
>
> You should never work for free. If you do, your employer will fail to
> assess the value of your labour at its just rate and you will
> persistently be underremunerated. Of course, if you WANT to be
> underremunerated, then you're doing the right thing (I am of course
> being facetious here).
>


As a salaried employee you have no choice.

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