On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 12:45:05 AM UTC-4, songbird wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> ...
> > Indeed, without the great native tribes of America, we would not have Cracker Jacks, Kellogg's Corn Pops, and 10% ethanol gasoline. Without the native Americans, life as we know it, would not be possible.
> life without tomatoes, beans and squash would be a very
> sad state of affairs.

We'd still have fava beans, chickpeas, soybeans, and lentils.

I could do without squash, but I would miss tomatoes.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 3:01:46 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-05-25 7:48 a.m., Janet wrote:
> > In article >, says...
> >>
> >> dsi1 wrote:
> >> ...
> >>> Indeed, without the great native tribes of America, we would not have Cracker Jacks, Kellogg's Corn Pops, and 10% ethanol gasoline. Without the native Americans, life as we know it, would not be possible.
> >>
> >> life without tomatoes, beans and squash would be a very
> >> sad state of affairs.
> >
> > OMG, how did the cultures of Ancient Rome, Greece and the Renaissance
> > ever get by?
> Don't forget about the noble potato. At least they had metal pots for
> cooking. dsi1 is painting with that very wide brush again. There was a
> wide range of indigenous culture across the New World. Some of those in
> Central and South America had advanced civilizations with massive
> works of architecture while others were extremely primitive. There was
> a lot of agriculture. As you move up into the US things got considerable
> more primitive and the tribes were more nomadic hunter gatherer cultures.

I made no comments about the nobility of certain roots, or metal pots or beans and squash, or Central and South American civilization. My point was grits are mostly a Southern favorite - and I ain't talking about South America. My brush might be wide by yours is insubstantial and unable to paint a straight, uninterrupted, solid line.

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:01:00 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 12:45:05 AM UTC-4, songbird wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote:
> > ...
> > > Indeed, without the great native tribes of America, we would not have Cracker Jacks, Kellogg's Corn Pops, and 10% ethanol gasoline. Without the native Americans, life as we know it, would not be possible.
> > life without tomatoes, beans and squash would be a very
> > sad state of affairs.
> We'd still have fava beans, chickpeas, soybeans, and lentils.
>
> I could do without squash, but I would miss tomatoes.

I agree on both points. I HATE squash.

On Tue, 25 May 2021 10:07:11 -0700, dsi1 wrote:

> I made no comments about the nobility of certain

I'm ****ed nobody stood up for capsicum.


> My brush might be wide by yours is insubstantial and
> unable to paint a straight, uninterrupted, solid line.

WTF? Guys like myself & Dave Smith have had years of experience with
outdoor snow canvases. Did you **** into the volcano?

Also, picking at your grammar although 'your brush might be wide' in
camparison to Dave, it is yours which is:

'insubstantial and unable to paint [...]'

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:07:33 PM UTC-4, Transition Zone wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:01:00 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 12:45:05 AM UTC-4, songbird wrote:
> > > dsi1 wrote:
> > > ...
> > > > Indeed, without the great native tribes of America, we would not have Cracker Jacks, Kellogg's Corn Pops, and 10% ethanol gasoline. Without the native Americans, life as we know it, would not be possible.
> > > life without tomatoes, beans and squash would be a very
> > > sad state of affairs.
> > We'd still have fava beans, chickpeas, soybeans, and lentils.
> >
> > I could do without squash, but I would miss tomatoes.
> I agree on both points. I HATE squash.

I don't hate it. I just don't like it enough to care whether it exists.

Still, as originally posited, we'd never know the difference. Without the
Native Americans, we wouldn't know what we were missing, having
never eaten tomatoes or chiles.

On the third hand, if Europeans had arrived to empty continents starting
in 1492, we might have developed tomatoes and chiles anyway. The Native
Americans did what farmers have been doing since it started: choose the
best and biggest fruit to supply seeds for next year's crop.

Cindy Hamilton

On 5/24/2021 5:35 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 5:59:32 PM UTC-5, wolfy's new skateboard wrote:
>>
>> You into e-bikes?
>>
>> I could do one of these and be stoked:
>>
>> https://electricbikereview.com/rad-p...ikes/radrover/
>>
> They're finally getting practical. I have the Lance 150 that isn't running.
> I also have a KYMCO 125 that isn't running. Both need fuel system (carb,
> petcock, etc.) work, then I'm going to sell the KYMCO. I've also got an old
> 50cc that hasn't run in a couple of years. I just put it on Craigslist:
> _____________________________
> SYM Mio 50 parts - $20 (Richmond Heights)
>
> condition: salvage
> make / manufacturer: SYM
> model name / number: Mio
> I have a tire that's brand new that fits it. I want $20 for the tire if you take
> the whole scooter. You can have the scooter for free for parts or if you
> want to get it running. It ran a couple of years ago, but the back tire went
> flat, and I bought a new tire, but never put it on. You can have the scooter
> for free whether or not you buy the tire, but it's a $35 tire for $20, and it
> fits the scooter.
> _____________________________
>
> If they have a truck to haul away the scooter, and offer to do so only if I
> give them the tire for free, I'll do it. My wife wants it gone 2 years ago.
>>
> --Bryan
>

That should not last long, scooter shops are all the rage now and a good
parts machine is useful as Hell.

I bet you'd dig a classic Lambretta:

https://classiccars.com/listings/fin...ears/lambretta

Spendy as Hell tho.

On 5/24/2021 5:46 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 5:59:32 PM UTC-5, wolfy's new skateboard wrote:
>> On 5/24/2021 4:36 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>> I'm 61 years old. I'm fat, and I drink too much beer. I'd kill myself on
>>> one of those. This is what I ride, and I need to get it fixed very soon.
>>> https://www.lancepowersports.com/mod...havana150.html
>>> I don't even ride it on anything more than a 35MPH street unless there's
>>> no alternative.
>> I dig that - 90 mpg and can do 65!
>>
> I'm sure it'd go 65, but it didn't get any 90MPG. More like 60-65.

Nothing to sniff at for sure.

Plus they're nice and quiet unlike those lawnblower engine go-peds.

>>
>> I bet it was cheap too.
>>
> It cost me $1K 5 years ago, including a $100 helmet, and it rides nicely.
> My KYMCO Agility 125 accelerated like a bat out of Hell, but it sat too
> high for my short legs.
>>
> --Bryan
>

Scooters rock.

On 5/24/2021 7:39 PM, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 11:55:03 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 8:23:59 AM UTC-10,
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 8:41:38 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 6:30:26 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>>>>>> Well, I finally bought some Thursday and honestly, first
>>>>>>> time in at least 18 months.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did Burger King this time.
>>>>>>> 2 Whoppers
>>>>>> Here they have the BOGOF deal, too.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday I used the BK app to get a 70 cent cheeseburger, then
>>>>> 3 more $1 bacon cheeseburgers. They ended up putting bacon on
>>>>> the 70 cent one too. We were 130 miles from home. This morning
>>>>> I made breakfast on the Coleman stove. Pix to come soon. Man,
>>>>> the place we camp is going to have thousands of blackberries in
>>>>> 4 weeks or so. I've never seen that patch that loaded with
>>>>> berries.
>>>>>>
>>>>> --Bryan
>>>>
>>>> Food is really cheap on the mainland. I can't make a cheeseburger
>>>> for 70 cents. I have been making cheeseburgers - boy, does that
>>>> make a mess. These burger places and franchises are practically
>>>> the only places where I can get white people/mainland food
>>>> because the Denny's in our little town caught covid-19 and did
>>>> not survive. If I want biscuits with gravy or grits, I have to
>>>> make my own. That's kind of a shame.
>>> dsi1, you have a sad habit of getting the mainland and 'white
>>> people' really wrong.
>>>
>>> Here's a basic primer. Grits aren't 'white people' derived. It's
>>> American Natives.
>>>
>>>
> https://theculturetrip.com/north-ame...tory-of-grits/
>>
>> Indeed I do equate Denny's with white people food and mainland food.
>> The reality is that I can only get white people/American food at
>> places like Burger King, McDonald's, KFC, et al. Denny's was the only
>> place in this town that has mainland food in a restaurant setting.
>
> Why in the world would you say that? Plenty of 'mainland type' food
> places there dsi1. Remember, I lived there. They didn't just all 'go
> away'.

How long ago?

Things have been changing fast everywhere.

On 5/24/2021 10:27 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 3:39:14 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 11:55:03 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 8:23:59 AM UTC-10,
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 8:41:38 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 6:30:26 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>>>>>>> Well, I finally bought some Thursday and honestly, first
>>>>>>>> time in at least 18 months.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did Burger King this time.
>>>>>>>> 2 Whoppers
>>>>>>> Here they have the BOGOF deal, too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yesterday I used the BK app to get a 70 cent cheeseburger, then
>>>>>> 3 more $1 bacon cheeseburgers. They ended up putting bacon on
>>>>>> the 70 cent one too. We were 130 miles from home. This morning
>>>>>> I made breakfast on the Coleman stove. Pix to come soon. Man,
>>>>>> the place we camp is going to have thousands of blackberries in
>>>>>> 4 weeks or so. I've never seen that patch that loaded with
>>>>>> berries.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Bryan
>>>>>
>>>>> Food is really cheap on the mainland. I can't make a cheeseburger
>>>>> for 70 cents. I have been making cheeseburgers - boy, does that
>>>>> make a mess. These burger places and franchises are practically
>>>>> the only places where I can get white people/mainland food
>>>>> because the Denny's in our little town caught covid-19 and did
>>>>> not survive. If I want biscuits with gravy or grits, I have to
>>>>> make my own. That's kind of a shame.
>>>> dsi1, you have a sad habit of getting the mainland and 'white
>>>> people' really wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Here's a basic primer. Grits aren't 'white people' derived. It's
>>>> American Natives.
>>>>
>>>>
>> https://theculturetrip.com/north-ame...tory-of-grits/
>>>
>>> Indeed I do equate Denny's with white people food and mainland food.
>>> The reality is that I can only get white people/American food at
>>> places like Burger King, McDonald's, KFC, et al. Denny's was the only
>>> place in this town that has mainland food in a restaurant setting.
>>
>> Why in the world would you say that? Plenty of 'mainland type' food
>> places there dsi1. Remember, I lived there. They didn't just all 'go
>> away'. Plenty of sub shops similar to subway, steal places with baked
>> potatoes.
>>
>>
>>> My
>>> wife would say that eating there makes her feel like going on a trip
>>> across the mainland. I know exactly what she means. It is like being
>>> in a different place and time. A mainlander probably wouldn't see it
>>> that way. To them, it's just another greasy-spoon dive. You've lost
>>> touch with the local food scene on this rock. It's not like the
>>> mainland anymore. My guess is that grits are mostly eaten by white
>>> folks in the South. What's Indians got to do with it?
>>
>>
>> There was a reason why I added the link to the history of grits. Comes
>> from the native Americans.
>
> Indeed, without the great native tribes of America, we would not have Cracker Jacks, Kellogg's Corn Pops, and 10% ethanol gasoline. Without the native Americans, life as we know it, would not be possible.
>

Why is it the Vikings get no due?

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 2:04:32 PM UTC-4, wolfy's new skateboard wrote:

> Why is it the Vikings get no due?

Because lutefisk.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 7:45:25 AM UTC-10, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Tue, 25 May 2021 10:07:11 -0700, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > I made no comments about the nobility of certain
> I'm ****ed nobody stood up for capsicum.
> > My brush might be wide by yours is insubstantial and
> > unable to paint a straight, uninterrupted, solid line.
> WTF? Guys like myself & Dave Smith have had years of experience with
> outdoor snow canvases. Did you **** into the volcano?
>
> Also, picking at your grammar although 'your brush might be wide' in
> camparison to Dave, it is yours which is:
>
> 'insubstantial and unable to paint [...]'

Yoose guys love to paint quick and dirty - using only two colors.

On 5/25/2021 5:43 AM, Gary wrote:
> Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> I didn't skate because I was ballsy.Â* I skated because it seemed frugal
>> and practical.
>
> I've always skated for fun. Practical came later when I did ride it to
> work for a few years so the wife could have the car available.
>
> My last one (and I still have it) was custom made in 1975 or '76.
>
> Blank: Logan Earth SkiÂ* (one piece wood)
> Trucks: Tracker half-tracks
> Wheels: Road Rider 4 (almost 2" wide)
>
> The rubber gaskets on the trucks need to be replaced. They've dried up
> to hard over the past years.
>
> When I bought this, the longer boards with wide trucks were *just*
> starting to show up. That's all you see these days.
>
Wow, another aging skate punk, lol.

We wuz kangs!

On 5/25/2021 7:01 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> There was a lot of agriculture. As you move up into the US things got
> considerable more primitive and the tribes were more nomadic hunter
> gatherer cultures.

What kind of tribal foods did your frozen tundra tribes create?

On 5/25/2021 11:07 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 3:01:46 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-05-25 7:48 a.m., Janet wrote:
>>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>> Indeed, without the great native tribes of America, we would not have Cracker Jacks, Kellogg's Corn Pops, and 10% ethanol gasoline. Without the native Americans, life as we know it, would not be possible.
>>>>
>>>> life without tomatoes, beans and squash would be a very
>>>> sad state of affairs.
>>>
>>> OMG, how did the cultures of Ancient Rome, Greece and the Renaissance
>>> ever get by?
>> Don't forget about the noble potato. At least they had metal pots for
>> cooking. dsi1 is painting with that very wide brush again. There was a
>> wide range of indigenous culture across the New World. Some of those in
>> Central and South America had advanced civilizations with massive
>> works of architecture while others were extremely primitive. There was
>> a lot of agriculture. As you move up into the US things got considerable
>> more primitive and the tribes were more nomadic hunter gatherer cultures.
>
> I made no comments about the nobility of certain roots, or metal pots or beans and squash, or Central and South American civilization. My point was grits are mostly a Southern favorite - and I ain't talking about South America. My brush might be wide by yours is insubstantial and unable to paint a straight, uninterrupted, solid line.
>

The line must be painted with grits roux of course...

;-)

On 5/25/2021 11:07 AM, Transition Zone wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:01:00 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 12:45:05 AM UTC-4, songbird wrote:
>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> Indeed, without the great native tribes of America, we would not have Cracker Jacks, Kellogg's Corn Pops, and 10% ethanol gasoline. Without the native Americans, life as we know it, would not be possible.
>>> life without tomatoes, beans and squash would be a very
>>> sad state of affairs.
>> We'd still have fava beans, chickpeas, soybeans, and lentils.
>>
>> I could do without squash, but I would miss tomatoes.
>
> I agree on both points. I HATE squash.
>
It is somewhat to the side of nasty I think.

Like tasting the smell of wet dog.

On 5/25/2021 12:07 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 2:04:32 PM UTC-4, wolfy's new skateboard wrote:
>
>> Why is it the Vikings get no due?
>
> Because lutefisk.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

LOL!

1 point.

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 8:04:32 AM UTC-10, wolfy's new skateboard wrote:
> Why is it the Vikings get no due?

Indeed. My step-mom comes for the land of ice and snow, from the land of the midnight sun where the hot springs and Volvos flow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxti2RWB5-w

On Tue, 25 May 2021 10:50:17 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:07:33 PM UTC-4, Transition Zone wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:01:00 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>> > We'd still have fava beans, chickpeas, soybeans, and lentils.
>> >
>> > I could do without squash, but I would miss tomatoes.
>> I agree on both points. I HATE squash.
>
>I don't hate it. I just don't like it enough to care whether it exists.
>
>Still, as originally posited, we'd never know the difference. Without the
>Native Americans, we wouldn't know what we were missing, having
>never eaten tomatoes or chiles.

Weren't these things just growing there? Native Americans didn't
invent tomatoes and chillies (what kind of word is chiles, does it
rhyme with Miles?).

>On the third hand, if Europeans had arrived to empty continents starting
>in 1492, we might have developed tomatoes and chiles anyway. The Native
>Americans did what farmers have been doing since it started: choose the
>best and biggest fruit to supply seeds for next year's crop.

That's it. We don't need Native Americans to eat tomatoes.

--
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On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 2:35:10 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On Tue, 25 May 2021 10:50:17 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:07:33 PM UTC-4, Transition Zone wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:01:00 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> >> > We'd still have fava beans, chickpeas, soybeans, and lentils.
> >> >
> >> > I could do without squash, but I would miss tomatoes.
> >> I agree on both points. I HATE squash.
> >
> >I don't hate it. I just don't like it enough to care whether it exists.
> >
> >Still, as originally posited, we'd never know the difference. Without the
> >Native Americans, we wouldn't know what we were missing, having
> >never eaten tomatoes or chiles.
> Weren't these things just growing there? Native Americans didn't
> invent tomatoes and chillies

They bred them up from tiny things the size of currants.

> (what kind of word is chiles, does it
> rhyme with Miles?).

It's a Spanish word. Pronounced chee-lays.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tue, 25 May 2021 09:11:55 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:45:05 PM UTC-10, songbird wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>> ...
>> > Indeed, without the great native tribes of America, we would not have Cracker Jacks, Kellogg's Corn Pops, and 10% ethanol gasoline. Without the native Americans, life as we know it, would not be possible.
>> life without tomatoes, beans and squash would be a very
>> sad state of affairs.
>>
>> songbird
>
>Tomatoes, for sure. Beans and squash, perhaps not.

Not all that long ago tomatoes were thought to be toxic (resembling
the nightshade fruit), and tomatoes didn't look like they do in recent
times, about 100 years ago tomatoes were tiny reddish brown mishapen
berries. Horticulturists put a lot of work into making tomatoes look
edible and somewhat tasty (used to be sour/bitter), and still they're
working on improvement.
https://www.planetnatural.com/tomato...-guru/history/
http://www.vegetablefacts.net/vegeta...y-of-tomatoes/

On 5/25/2021 12:24 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 8:04:32 AM UTC-10, wolfy's new skateboard wrote:
>> Why is it the Vikings get no due?
>
> Indeed. My step-mom comes for the land of ice and snow, from the land of the midnight sun where the hot springs and Volvos flow.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxti2RWB5-w
>
:-0


https://youtu.be/hrsq1werkfs

https://youtu.be/eq9NE2qQzTo

On 2021-05-25 1:07 p.m., Transition Zone wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:01:00 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>> We'd still have fava beans, chickpeas, soybeans, and lentils.
>>
>> I could do without squash, but I would miss tomatoes.
>
> I agree on both points. I HATE squash.
>

I can understand that. I hated it until about 10 years ago. Now I love
it. Baking it with things like ginger, cinammon and curry powder make it
quite tasty.

On 5/25/2021 2:29 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-05-25 1:07 p.m., Transition Zone wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:01:00 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>>> We'd still have fava beans, chickpeas, soybeans, and lentils.
>>>
>>> I could do without squash, but I would miss tomatoes.
>>
>> I agree on both points.Â* I HATE squash.
>>
>
> I can understand that. I hated it until about 10 years ago. Now I love
> it. Baking it with things like ginger, cinammon and curry powder make it
> quite tasty.

I bet those would make a wet dog smell better too.

On Tue, 25 May 2021 14:45:23 -0600, wolfy's new skateboard
> wrote:

>On 5/25/2021 2:29 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-05-25 1:07 p.m., Transition Zone wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:01:00 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>>> We'd still have fava beans, chickpeas, soybeans, and lentils.
>>>>
>>>> I could do without squash, but I would miss tomatoes.
>>>
>>> I agree on both points.* I HATE squash.
>>>
>>
>> I can understand that. I hated it until about 10 years ago. Now I love
>> it. Baking it with things like ginger, cinammon and curry powder make it
>> quite tasty.
>
>I bet those would make a wet dog smell better too.

Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
--
This is a message from the other Dave Smith.

On 5/25/2021 3:28 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On Tue, 25 May 2021 14:45:23 -0600, wolfy's new skateboard
> > wrote:
>
>> On 5/25/2021 2:29 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2021-05-25 1:07 p.m., Transition Zone wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:01:00 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>>> We'd still have fava beans, chickpeas, soybeans, and lentils.
>>>>>
>>>>> I could do without squash, but I would miss tomatoes.
>>>>
>>>> I agree on both points.Â* I HATE squash.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I can understand that. I hated it until about 10 years ago. Now I love
>>> it. Baking it with things like ginger, cinammon and curry powder make it
>>> quite tasty.
>>
>> I bet those would make a wet dog smell better too.
>
> Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
>
Dude, grow the **** up!

On Tue, 25 May 2021 16:29:14 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2021-05-25 1:07 p.m., Transition Zone wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:01:00 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>>> We'd still have fava beans, chickpeas, soybeans, and lentils.
>>>
>>> I could do without squash, but I would miss tomatoes.
>>
>> I agree on both points. I HATE squash.
>>
>
>I can understand that. I hated it until about 10 years ago. Now I love
>it. Baking it with things like ginger, cinammon and curry powder make it
>quite tasty.

Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
--
This is a message from the other Dave Smith.

On Tue, 25 May 2021 14:45:57 -0400, Sheldon Martin >
wrote:

>On Tue, 25 May 2021 09:11:55 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:
>
>>On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:45:05 PM UTC-10, songbird wrote:
>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>> ...
>>> > Indeed, without the great native tribes of America, we would not have Cracker Jacks, Kellogg's Corn Pops, and 10% ethanol gasoline. Without the native Americans, life as we know it, would not be possible.
>>> life without tomatoes, beans and squash would be a very
>>> sad state of affairs.
>>>
>>> songbird
>>
>>Tomatoes, for sure. Beans and squash, perhaps not.
>
>Not all that long ago tomatoes were thought to be toxic (resembling
>the nightshade fruit), and tomatoes didn't look like they do in recent
>times, about 100 years ago tomatoes were tiny reddish brown mishapen
>berries. Horticulturists put a lot of work into making tomatoes look
>edible and somewhat tasty (used to be sour/bitter), and still they're
>working on improvement.
>https://www.planetnatural.com/tomato...-guru/history/
>http://www.vegetablefacts.net/vegeta...y-of-tomatoes/

Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
--
This is a message from the other Dave Smith.

On Tue, 25 May 2021 14:35:04 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On Tue, 25 May 2021 10:50:17 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>
>>On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:07:33 PM UTC-4, Transition Zone wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:01:00 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>>> > We'd still have fava beans, chickpeas, soybeans, and lentils.
>>> >
>>> > I could do without squash, but I would miss tomatoes.
>>> I agree on both points. I HATE squash.
>>
>>I don't hate it. I just don't like it enough to care whether it exists.
>>
>>Still, as originally posited, we'd never know the difference. Without the
>>Native Americans, we wouldn't know what we were missing, having
>>never eaten tomatoes or chiles.
>
>Weren't these things just growing there? Native Americans didn't
>invent tomatoes and chillies (what kind of word is chiles, does it
>rhyme with Miles?).
>
>>On the third hand, if Europeans had arrived to empty continents starting
>>in 1492, we might have developed tomatoes and chiles anyway. The Native
>>Americans did what farmers have been doing since it started: choose the
>>best and biggest fruit to supply seeds for next year's crop.
>
>That's it. We don't need Native Americans to eat tomatoes.

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On Tue, 25 May 2021 12:17:41 -0600, wolfy's new skateboard
> wrote:

>On 5/25/2021 11:07 AM, Transition Zone wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:01:00 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 12:45:05 AM UTC-4, songbird wrote:
>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>> Indeed, without the great native tribes of America, we would not have Cracker Jacks, Kellogg's Corn Pops, and 10% ethanol gasoline. Without the native Americans, life as we know it, would not be possible.
>>>> life without tomatoes, beans and squash would be a very
>>>> sad state of affairs.
>>> We'd still have fava beans, chickpeas, soybeans, and lentils.
>>>
>>> I could do without squash, but I would miss tomatoes.
>>
>> I agree on both points. I HATE squash.
>>
>It is somewhat to the side of nasty I think.
>
>Like tasting the smell of wet dog.

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On Tue, 25 May 2021 15:30:00 -0600, wolfy's new skateboard
> wrote:

>On 5/25/2021 3:28 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 May 2021 14:45:23 -0600, wolfy's new skateboard
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/25/2021 2:29 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2021-05-25 1:07 p.m., Transition Zone wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 1:01:00 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> We'd still have fava beans, chickpeas, soybeans, and lentils.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I could do without squash, but I would miss tomatoes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree on both points.* I HATE squash.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can understand that. I hated it until about 10 years ago. Now I love
>>>> it. Baking it with things like ginger, cinammon and curry powder make it
>>>> quite tasty.
>>>
>>> I bet those would make a wet dog smell better too.
>>
>> Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
>>
>Dude, grow the **** up!

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On 5/24/2021 9:39 PM, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 11:55:03 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Food is really cheap on the mainland. I can't make a cheeseburger
>>>> for 70 cents. I have been making cheeseburgers - boy, does that
>>>> make a mess. These burger places and franchises are practically
>>>> the only places where I can get white people/mainland food
>>>> because the Denny's in our little town caught covid-19 and did
>>>> not survive. If I want biscuits with gravy or grits, I have to
>>>> make my own. That's kind of a shame.
>>> dsi1, you have a sad habit of getting the mainland and 'white
>>> people' really wrong.
>>>
>>> Here's a basic primer. Grits aren't 'white people' derived. It's
>>> American Natives.
>>>
>>>
> https://theculturetrip.com/north-ame...tory-of-grits/
>>
>> Indeed I do equate Denny's with white people food and mainland food.
>> The reality is that I can only get white people/American food at
>> places like Burger King, McDonald's, KFC, et al. Denny's was the only
>> place in this town that has mainland food in a restaurant setting.
>
> Why in the world would you say that? Plenty of 'mainland type' food
> places there dsi1. Remember, I lived there. They didn't just all 'go
> away'. Plenty of sub shops similar to subway, steal places with baked
> potatoes.
>
>
>> My
>> wife would say that eating there makes her feel like going on a trip
>> across the mainland. I know exactly what she means. It is like being
>> in a different place and time. A mainlander probably wouldn't see it
>> that way. To them, it's just another greasy-spoon dive. You've lost
>> touch with the local food scene on this rock. It's not like the
>> mainland anymore. My guess is that grits are mostly eaten by white
>> folks in the South. What's Indians got to do with it?
>
>
> There was a reason why I added the link to the history of grits. Comes
> from the native Americans.
>
It appears the only thing dsi1 knows about food on the mainland is from
chain restaurants (Denny's - as if everyone eats at Denny's) and fast
food joints. From the pics I've seen, he seems to seek such places out
on his "rock", the only difference being they serve whatever it is with
rice.

Jill

On Wed, 26 May 2021 19:08:57 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 5/24/2021 9:39 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 11:55:03 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Food is really cheap on the mainland. I can't make a cheeseburger
>>>>> for 70 cents. I have been making cheeseburgers - boy, does that
>>>>> make a mess. These burger places and franchises are practically
>>>>> the only places where I can get white people/mainland food
>>>>> because the Denny's in our little town caught covid-19 and did
>>>>> not survive. If I want biscuits with gravy or grits, I have to
>>>>> make my own. That's kind of a shame.
>>>> dsi1, you have a sad habit of getting the mainland and 'white
>>>> people' really wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Here's a basic primer. Grits aren't 'white people' derived. It's
>>>> American Natives.
>>>>
>>>>
>> https://theculturetrip.com/north-ame...tory-of-grits/
>>>
>>> Indeed I do equate Denny's with white people food and mainland food.
>>> The reality is that I can only get white people/American food at
>>> places like Burger King, McDonald's, KFC, et al. Denny's was the only
>>> place in this town that has mainland food in a restaurant setting.
>>
>> Why in the world would you say that? Plenty of 'mainland type' food
>> places there dsi1. Remember, I lived there. They didn't just all 'go
>> away'. Plenty of sub shops similar to subway, steal places with baked
>> potatoes.
>>
>>
>>> My
>>> wife would say that eating there makes her feel like going on a trip
>>> across the mainland. I know exactly what she means. It is like being
>>> in a different place and time. A mainlander probably wouldn't see it
>>> that way. To them, it's just another greasy-spoon dive. You've lost
>>> touch with the local food scene on this rock. It's not like the
>>> mainland anymore. My guess is that grits are mostly eaten by white
>>> folks in the South. What's Indians got to do with it?
>>
>>
>> There was a reason why I added the link to the history of grits. Comes
>> from the native Americans.
>>
>It appears the only thing dsi1 knows about food on the mainland is from
>chain restaurants (Denny's - as if everyone eats at Denny's) and fast
>food joints. From the pics I've seen, he seems to seek such places out
>on his "rock", the only difference being they serve whatever it is with
>rice.
>
>Jill
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On 2021-05-26 7:08 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/24/2021 9:39 PM, cshenk wrote:

>> There was a reason why I added the link to the history of grits. Comes
>> from the native Americans.
>>
> It appears the only thing dsi1 knows about food on the mainland is from
> chain restaurants (Denny's - as if everyone eats at Denny's) and fast
> food joints.Â* From the pics I've seen, he seems to seek such places out
> on his "rock", the only difference being they serve whatever it is with
> rice.
>

A few years back someone opened up a Hawaiian restaurant in our town. I
didn't understand why they would do that in a small town because it
wasn't like the were following a wave of popular Hawaiian dining in the
area because there was none. I went there once and was turned right
off. I am pretty adventurous and look forward to trying new ethnic
foods and many times I have been impressed enough to go back. One that
just couldn't get into was Japanese. I tried it several times and was
always a little disappointed. Hover, I was at least willing to give it a
few more tries. Not so with Hawaiian food. Once was more than enough
for me.

On 5/26/2021 7:20 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-05-26 7:08 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/24/2021 9:39 PM, cshenk wrote:
>
>>> There was a reason why I added the link to the history of grits. Comes
>>> from the native Americans.
>>>
>> It appears the only thing dsi1 knows about food on the mainland is
>> from chain restaurants (Denny's - as if everyone eats at Denny's) and
>> fast food joints.Â* From the pics I've seen, he seems to seek such
>> places out on his "rock", the only difference being they serve
>> whatever it is with rice.
>>
>
> A few years back someone opened up a Hawaiian restaurant in our town. I
> didn't understand why they would do that in a small town because it
> wasn't like the were following a wave of popular Hawaiian dining in the
> area because there was none.Â* I went there once and was turned right
> off.Â* I am pretty adventurous and look forward to trying new ethnic
> foods and many times I have been impressed enough to go back. One that
> just couldn't get into was Japanese. I tried it several times and was
> always a little disappointed. Hover, I was at least willing to give it a
> few more tries. Not so with Hawaiian food.Â* Once was more than enough
> for me.

The thing about Japanese food and dsi1 is he keeps yapping about it but
he's been asked several times, has he ever been to Japan? He's
curiously silent in that regard.

Jill

On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 1:35:29 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> On 5/26/2021 7:20 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2021-05-26 7:08 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> >> On 5/24/2021 9:39 PM, cshenk wrote:
> >
> >>> There was a reason why I added the link to the history of grits. Comes
> >>> from the native Americans.
> >>>
> >> It appears the only thing dsi1 knows about food on the mainland is
> >> from chain restaurants (Denny's - as if everyone eats at Denny's) and
> >> fast food joints. From the pics I've seen, he seems to seek such
> >> places out on his "rock", the only difference being they serve
> >> whatever it is with rice.
> >>
> >
> > A few years back someone opened up a Hawaiian restaurant in our town. I
> > didn't understand why they would do that in a small town because it
> > wasn't like the were following a wave of popular Hawaiian dining in the
> > area because there was none. I went there once and was turned right
> > off. I am pretty adventurous and look forward to trying new ethnic
> > foods and many times I have been impressed enough to go back. One that
> > just couldn't get into was Japanese. I tried it several times and was
> > always a little disappointed. Hover, I was at least willing to give it a
> > few more tries. Not so with Hawaiian food. Once was more than enough
> > for me.
> The thing about Japanese food and dsi1 is he keeps yapping about it but
> he's been asked several times, has he ever been to Japan? He's
> curiously silent in that regard.
>
> Jill

Why don't you ask me? I'm here.

On Wed, 26 May 2021 17:28:42 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 1:35:29 PM UTC-10, wrote:

>> The thing about Japanese food and dsi1 is he keeps yapping about it but
>> he's been asked several times, has he ever been to Japan? He's
>> curiously silent in that regard.
>>
>> Jill
>
>Why don't you ask me? I'm here.

lol

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dsi1 wrote:

> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 1:35:29 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> > On 5/26/2021 7:20 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2021-05-26 7:08 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > >> On 5/24/2021 9:39 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > >
> > >>> There was a reason why I added the link to the history of grits. Comes
> > >>> from the native Americans.
> > >>>
> > >> It appears the only thing dsi1 knows about food on the mainland is
> > >> from chain restaurants (Denny's - as if everyone eats at Denny's) and
> > >> fast food joints. From the pics I've seen, he seems to seek such
> > >> places out on his "rock", the only difference being they serve
> > >> whatever it is with rice.
> > >>
> > >
> > > A few years back someone opened up a Hawaiian restaurant in our town. I
> > > didn't understand why they would do that in a small town because it
> > > wasn't like the were following a wave of popular Hawaiian dining in the
> > > area because there was none. I went there once and was turned right
> > > off. I am pretty adventurous and look forward to trying new ethnic
> > > foods and many times I have been impressed enough to go back. One that
> > > just couldn't get into was Japanese. I tried it several times and was
> > > always a little disappointed. Hover, I was at least willing to give it a
> > > few more tries. Not so with Hawaiian food. Once was more than enough
> > > for me.
> > The thing about Japanese food and dsi1 is he keeps yapping about it but
> > he's been asked several times, has he ever been to Japan? He's
> > curiously silent in that regard.
> >
> > Jill
> Why don't you ask me? I'm here.


HIT her, and hit her HARD, Tojo...!!!

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songbird wrote:

> dsi1 wrote:
> ...
> > Indeed, without the great native tribes of America, we would not
> > have Cracker Jacks, Kellogg's Corn Pops, and 10% ethanol gasoline.
> > Without the native Americans, life as we know it, would not be
> > possible.
>
> life without tomatoes, beans and squash would be a very
> sad state of affairs.
>
>
> songbird

Native Americans like every other culture, contributed a great deal to
all of us. Human selective crop propagation to make a 'wheat like
sheath' into the corn type we know today, Chocolate anyone?
Pineapples? Potatoes?

I'd say they have added their share along with tomatoes and quite a few
other vegetables.

Hawaiians addition. Poi maybe? Didn't catch on.

On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 7:42:04 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 1:35:29 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> > > On 5/26/2021 7:20 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > On 2021-05-26 7:08 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > > >> On 5/24/2021 9:39 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>> There was a reason why I added the link to the history of grits. Comes
> > > >>> from the native Americans.
> > > >>>
> > > >> It appears the only thing dsi1 knows about food on the mainland is
> > > >> from chain restaurants (Denny's - as if everyone eats at Denny's) and
> > > >> fast food joints. From the pics I've seen, he seems to seek such
> > > >> places out on his "rock", the only difference being they serve
> > > >> whatever it is with rice.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > A few years back someone opened up a Hawaiian restaurant in our town. I
> > > > didn't understand why they would do that in a small town because it
> > > > wasn't like the were following a wave of popular Hawaiian dining in the
> > > > area because there was none. I went there once and was turned right
> > > > off. I am pretty adventurous and look forward to trying new ethnic
> > > > foods and many times I have been impressed enough to go back. One that
> > > > just couldn't get into was Japanese. I tried it several times and was
> > > > always a little disappointed. Hover, I was at least willing to give it a
> > > > few more tries. Not so with Hawaiian food. Once was more than enough
> > > > for me.
> > > The thing about Japanese food and dsi1 is he keeps yapping about it but
> > > he's been asked several times, has he ever been to Japan? He's
> > > curiously silent in that regard.
> > >
> > > Jill
> > Why don't you ask me? I'm here.
> HIT her, and hit her HARD, Tojo...!!!
>
I hope you're merely suggesting a pearl necklace, and not a Pearl Harbor.
>
> --
> Best
> Greg
>
--Bryan

jmcquown wrote:

> On 5/26/2021 7:20 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2021-05-26 7:08 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > > On 5/24/2021 9:39 PM, cshenk wrote:
> >
> > > > There was a reason why I added the link to the history of
> > > > grits. Comes from the native Americans.
> > > >
> > > It appears the only thing dsi1 knows about food on the mainland
> > > is from chain restaurants (Denny's - as if everyone eats at
> > > Denny's) and fast food joints.Â* From the pics I've seen, he
> > > seems to seek such places out on his "rock", the only difference
> > > being they serve whatever it is with rice.
> > >
> >
> > A few years back someone opened up a Hawaiian restaurant in our
> > town. I didn't understand why they would do that in a small town
> > because it wasn't like the were following a wave of popular
> > Hawaiian dining in the area because there was none.Â* I went there
> > once and was turned right off.Â* I am pretty adventurous and look
> > forward to trying new ethnic foods and many times I have been
> > impressed enough to go back. One that just couldn't get into was
> > Japanese. I tried it several times and was always a little
> > disappointed. Hover, I was at least willing to give it a few more
> > tries. Not so with Hawaiian food.Â* Once was more than enough for
> > me.
>
> The thing about Japanese food and dsi1 is he keeps yapping about it
> but he's been asked several times, has he ever been to Japan? He's
> curiously silent in that regard.
>
> Jill

Yup. I think there is (or was?) another here who lived in Japan.
Hawaiian 'Japanese' cooking is all fusion. Nothing wrong with that but
it's not how they do it in Japan.

Smile, try asking him what a 'miso tub' is.