I thawed out the remains of the Easter ham shank. After a few hours of
simmering, I will add canned pinto beans, and later, sliced carrots.
Meanwhile, my hot water heater is leaking, so I will be calling people who
know how to replace it. It´s within a year of being forty years old, so
Sears didn´t cheat me when they replaced it last time. Forty years ago,
Sears was a different company. I´m using my, nearly as old, plumbing outfit
this time. The water heater will be a Bradford White if the quote isn´t
ridiculous.
Anybody here hate Bradford White water heaters? It only has to last ten
years. By then, I won´t care.

leo

On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:02:16 AM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
>
> I thawed out the remains of the Easter ham shank. After a few hours of
> simmering, I will add canned pinto beans, and later, sliced carrots.
>
Onions too, or will that be an addition to add when served?
>
> Meanwhile, my hot water heater is leaking, so I will be calling people who
> know how to replace it. It´s within a year of being forty years old, so
> Sears didn´t cheat me when they replaced it last time. Forty years ago,
> Sears was a different company. I´m using my, nearly as old, plumbing outfit
> this time. The water heater will be a Bradford White if the quote isn´t
> ridiculous.
>
I definitely think you got your money worth out of that water heater!! Is it
gas or electric?
>
> Anybody here hate Bradford White water heaters? It only has to last ten
> years. By then, I won´t care.
>
> leo
>
I'm not familiar with that brand and they are a pain, like any appliance, to
deal with when time to replace. I don't give any of mine a second thought
until they go on the blink.
)

On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 09:20:14 -0700, wrote:

> I'm not familiar with that brand and they are a pain, like any
> appliance, to deal with when time to replace.

About 25 years ago I manhandled an 80 gallon hot water tank with probably
a few gallons of rusty water up my basement stairs.

A few years ago, I used a metal-cutting grinder blade to cut an 80 gallon
tank into 2 foot square pieces to more easily carry it out.

Dropping a new one down the stairs is easy if you do it systematically.


> I don't give any of mine a second thought until they go on the blink.

That sounds like a better approach than both my ways.

On 2021-04-26 1:01 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 09:20:14 -0700, wrote:
>
>> I'm not familiar with that brand and they are a pain, like any
>> appliance, to deal with when time to replace.
>
> About 25 years ago I manhandled an 80 gallon hot water tank with probably
> a few gallons of rusty water up my basement stairs.
>
> A few years ago, I used a metal-cutting grinder blade to cut an 80 gallon
> tank into 2 foot square pieces to more easily carry it out.
>
> Dropping a new one down the stairs is easy if you do it systematically.
>
>
>> I don't give any of mine a second thought until they go on the blink.
>
> That sounds like a better approach than both my ways.

Years ago I tried to get Ontario Hydro to stop charging me rent for my
electric water heater. I figured it had been paid for a couple times
over in rental money. They would not go for that and they would not get
me a new one if the old one was still working. I went out and bought a
new water heater and installed it myself. Then I called them and told
them to come and pick up their heater. They didn't want it. Hell, if I
had known that I could have just told them I had removed it and the rent
would have been cancelled.

When my insurance company made me replace my old oil tank the the
installer emptied the old tank and then cut it in two to get it out of
the basement. I only had that tank for two years before I switched over
to high efficiency natural gas. They didn't cut that tank in two. I am
assuming they were especially careful to get it out of there in one
piece so they could sell it.

On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 1:24:13 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> I switched over
> to high efficiency natural gas.
>
I've done some careful snipping, hope you don't mind.

When my natural gas water heater bit the dust about 2 years ago
I called the gas company thinking maybe since I was a customer I
*might* get a tiny break on the price. HA! They were much more
expensive than a plumber by about $400.

On 2021-04-26 2:49 p.m., wrote:
> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 1:24:13 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> I switched over
>> to high efficiency natural gas.
>>
> I've done some careful snipping, hope you don't mind.
>
> When my natural gas water heater bit the dust about 2 years ago
> I called the gas company thinking maybe since I was a customer I
> *might* get a tiny break on the price. HA! They were much more
> expensive than a plumber by about $400.
>
My friend's gas water heater died a couple months ago. He asked me to
recommend a plumber who could replace it for him, but I asked if he
owned or rented. He rented, so he called the gas company and they sent
two guys out the next day and replaced it for free.

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2021-04-26 1:01 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 09:20:14 -0700, wrote:
> >
> > > I'm not familiar with that brand and they are a pain, like any
> > > appliance, to deal with when time to replace.
> >
> > About 25 years ago I manhandled an 80 gallon hot water tank with
> > probably a few gallons of rusty water up my basement stairs.
> >
> > A few years ago, I used a metal-cutting grinder blade to cut an 80
> > gallon tank into 2 foot square pieces to more easily carry it out.
> >
> > Dropping a new one down the stairs is easy if you do it
> > systematically.
> >
> >
> > > I don't give any of mine a second thought until they go on the
> > > blink.
> >
> > That sounds like a better approach than both my ways.
>
> Years ago I tried to get Ontario Hydro to stop charging me rent for
> my electric water heater. I figured it had been paid for a couple
> times over in rental money. They would not go for that and they
> would not get me a new one if the old one was still working. I went
> out and bought a new water heater and installed it myself. Then I
> called them and told them to come and pick up their heater. They
> didn't want it. Hell, if I had known that I could have just told them
> I had removed it and the rent would have been cancelled.
>
> When my insurance company made me replace my old oil tank the the
> installer emptied the old tank and then cut it in two to get it out
> of the basement. I only had that tank for two years before I switched
> over to high efficiency natural gas. They didn't cut that tank in
> two. I am assuming they were especially careful to get it out of
> there in one piece so they could sell it.
>
>

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On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 07:01:14 -0000 (UTC), "Dr. Bruce"
> wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> On 2021-04-26 1:01 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
>> > On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 09:20:14 -0700, wrote:
>> >
>> > > I'm not familiar with that brand and they are a pain, like any
>> > > appliance, to deal with when time to replace.
>> >
>> > About 25 years ago I manhandled an 80 gallon hot water tank with
>> > probably a few gallons of rusty water up my basement stairs.
>> >
>> > A few years ago, I used a metal-cutting grinder blade to cut an 80
>> > gallon tank into 2 foot square pieces to more easily carry it out.
>> >
>> > Dropping a new one down the stairs is easy if you do it
>> > systematically.
>> >
>> >
>> > > I don't give any of mine a second thought until they go on the
>> > > blink.
>> >
>> > That sounds like a better approach than both my ways.
>>
>> Years ago I tried to get Ontario Hydro to stop charging me rent for
>> my electric water heater. I figured it had been paid for a couple
>> times over in rental money. They would not go for that and they
>> would not get me a new one if the old one was still working. I went
>> out and bought a new water heater and installed it myself. Then I
>> called them and told them to come and pick up their heater. They
>> didn't want it. Hell, if I had known that I could have just told them
>> I had removed it and the rent would have been cancelled.
>>
>> When my insurance company made me replace my old oil tank the the
>> installer emptied the old tank and then cut it in two to get it out
>> of the basement. I only had that tank for two years before I switched
>> over to high efficiency natural gas. They didn't cut that tank in
>> two. I am assuming they were especially careful to get it out of
>> there in one piece so they could sell it.

Failed water heaters should always be replaced with tankless
on-demand... easily saves the cost of replacement the first year.

Leo wrote:

> I thawed out the remains of the Easter ham shank. After a few hours
> of simmering, I will add canned pinto beans, and later, sliced
> carrots. Meanwhile, my hot water heater is leaking, so I will be
> calling people who know how to replace it. It´s within a year of
> being forty years old, so Sears didn´t cheat me when they replaced it
> last time. Forty years ago, Sears was a different company. I´m using
> my, nearly as old, plumbing outfit this time. The water heater will
> be a Bradford White if the quote isn´t ridiculous.
> Anybody here hate Bradford White water heaters? It only has to last
> ten years. By then, I won´t care.
>
> leo


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Leo wrote:

> I thawed out the remains of the Easter ham shank. After a few hours
> of simmering, I will add canned pinto beans, and later, sliced
> carrots. Meanwhile, my hot water heater is leaking, so I will be
> calling people who know how to replace it. It´s within a year of
> being forty years old, so Sears didn´t cheat me when they replaced it
> last time. Forty years ago, Sears was a different company. I´m using
> my, nearly as old, plumbing outfit this time. The water heater will
> be a Bradford White if the quote isn´t ridiculous.
> Anybody here hate Bradford White water heaters? It only has to last
> ten years. By then, I won´t care.
>
> leo

Hi Leo, I replaced a 40 year old one about 2 years ago. It was
starting to fail and was a good time to upgrade to a more energy
efficient model. 'Proline' is what it says. It was a combo deal with
the gas HVAC (it's gas too).

On 4/26/2021 4:02 AM, Leo wrote:
> I thawed out the remains of the Easter ham shank. After a few hours of
> simmering, I will add canned pinto beans, and later, sliced carrots.
> Meanwhile, my hot water heater is leaking, so I will be calling people who
> know how to replace it. It´s within a year of being forty years old, so
> Sears didn´t cheat me when they replaced it last time. Forty years ago,
> Sears was a different company. I´m using my, nearly as old, plumbing outfit
> this time. The water heater will be a Bradford White if the quote isn´t
> ridiculous.
> Anybody here hate Bradford White water heaters? It only has to last ten
> years. By then, I won´t care.
>
> leo
>
I've no knowledge of Bradford White water heaters. I had to have mine
(electric) replaced last October. After checking with local plumbers
and getting outrageous quotes (not to mention, they were all booked up
for a month!) I wound up going to Lowe's and bought one and they came
out in two days to install it and haul away the broken one. A.O. Smith
is the brand and the price including installation was very reasonable.
One of the installers told me even though the Mfg. warranty is only 10
years it will likely last 20 or more.

BTW, I would have used that ham shank to make my Dad's Navy Bean Soup.
I'm sure your ham & pinto beans were quite good, though.

Jill

On 2021-04-26 6:06 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/26/2021 4:02 AM, Leo wrote:
eo
>>
> I've no knowledge of Bradford White water heaters.Â* I had to have mine
> (electric) replaced last October.Â* After checking with local plumbers
> and getting outrageous quotes (not to mention, they were all booked up
> for a month!) I wound up going to Lowe's and bought one and they came
> out in two days to install it and haul away the broken one.Â* A.O. Smith
> is the brand and the price including installation was very reasonable.
> One of the installers told me even though the Mfg. warranty is only 10
> years it will likely last 20 or more.
>


I don't know what you consider to be outrageous. I just checked out Home
Depot prices and you can get an electric hot water heater for under
$700. You would need pressure relief valve (about $25) and little bit
of plumbing done. While I did mine myself I would think that it is
probably a two man job to get the old tank in and the old one out
without doing damage. I would think 2 hours labour at the very most.



> BTW, I would have used that ham shank to make my Dad's Navy Bean Soup.
> I'm sure your ham & pinto beans were quite good, though.
>
>


Thai style food tonight. Beef wraps using julienned carrot and
cucumber,chopped mango, mint, cilantro and strips of leftover NY Strip
steaks that had been marinated in soy sauce with some very finely
chopped Thai pepper. Dressed in a mixture of lime juice and low sodium
soya sauce. Mixed it up with some chopped arugala and rolled it up in
rice paper.

I also made a nice spicy soup using low sodium chicken broth, a dash of
low sodium soya sauce, one star anise, a little basil, a bit of lime
juice and heated it up with half a Thai pepper. I removed the pepper for
serving. It was still really spicy.


I

On 2021 Apr 26, , jmcquown wrote
(in article >):

> BTW, I would have used that ham shank to make my Dad's Navy Bean Soup.
> I'm sure your ham & pinto beans were quite good, though.

Here are the Ham ´n Pintos. The ham from a Easter ham shank makes far
better broth with a lot more meat than the smaller smoked ham shanks I
normally use. I´m pretty sure I´ve posted a similar picture
before.
I added more beans for our second meal. The first meal didn´t have
enough.

<https://postimg.cc/kV3KmM1V>

leo

On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 9:20:28 PM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
>
> Here are the Ham ´n Pintos. The ham from a Easter ham shank makes far
> better broth with a lot more meat than the smaller smoked ham shanks I
> normally use. I´m pretty sure I´ve posted a similar picture
> before.
> I added more beans for our second meal. The first meal didn´t have
> enough.
>
> <https://postimg.cc/kV3KmM1V>
>
> leo
>
You did good!! I bet the carrots were good in the beans, as well. A skillet
of cornbread, too?

On 2021 Apr 28, , wrote
(in >):

> You did good!! I bet the carrots were good in the beans, as well. A skillet
> of cornbread, too?

Shhhhhh! I forgot the cornbread, and my wife was kind enough to not mention
it. This the first time that my error has hit me like a thunderbolt.Thanks!
We needed skillet cornbread, and I forgot until just now. She is right behind
me. I´m going to mention it. She just said, "It would have been great."
Well, hell!
I blame it on the water heater.

On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 10:45:21 PM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
>
> On 2021 Apr 28, , wrote
> (in >):
>
> > You did good!! I bet the carrots were good in the beans, as well. A skillet
> > of cornbread, too?
> >
> Shhhhhh! I forgot the cornbread, and my wife was kind enough to not mention
> it. This the first time that my error has hit me like a thunderbolt.Thanks!
> We needed skillet cornbread, and I forgot until just now. She is right behind
> me. I´m going to mention it. She just said, "It would have been great."
> Well, hell!
> I blame it on the water heater.
>
Har-har-har-har! If there's any left over you can make a skillet Thursday
night. Add a bowl of chopped onions on the table to add to the beans and
you'll really be a hero.

Leo wrote:

> On 2021 Apr 28, , wrote
> (in >):
>
> > You did good!! I bet the carrots were good in the beans, as well. A
> > skillet of cornbread, too?
>
> Shhhhhh! I forgot the cornbread, and my wife was kind enough to not
> mention it. This the first time that my error has hit me like a
> thunderbolt.Thanks! We needed skillet cornbread, and I forgot until
> just now. She is right behind me. I´m going to mention it. She just
> said, "It would have been great." Well, hell!
> I blame it on the water heater.

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On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 4:02:16 AM UTC-4, Leo wrote:
> I thawed out the remains of the Easter ham shank. After a few hours of
> simmering, I will add canned pinto beans, and later, sliced carrots.
> Meanwhile, my hot water heater is leaking, so I will be calling people who
> know how to replace it. It´s within a year of being forty years old, so
> Sears didn´t cheat me when they replaced it last time. Forty years ago,
> Sears was a different company. I´m using my, nearly as old, plumbing outfit
> this time. The water heater will be a Bradford White if the quote isn´t
> ridiculous.
> Anybody here hate Bradford White water heaters? It only has to last ten
> years. By then, I won´t care.

You cook on top of a heater or a furnace. Some furnaces in big buildings are hot enough to cook a lot of stuff.

Leo wrote:

> I thawed out the remains of the Easter ham shank. After a few hours
> of simmering, I will add canned pinto beans, and later, sliced
> carrots. Meanwhile, my hot water heater is leaking, so I will be
> calling people who know how to replace it. It´s within a year of
> being forty years old, so Sears didn´t cheat me when they replaced it
> last time. Forty years ago, Sears was a different company. I´m using
> my, nearly as old, plumbing outfit this time. The water heater will
> be a Bradford White if the quote isn´t ridiculous.
> Anybody here hate Bradford White water heaters? It only has to last
> ten years. By then, I won´t care.
>
> leo

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