On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 4:44:12 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>
> wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 11:46:29 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> >>
> >> He should be home on Wednesday. He's been in a physical rehab facility.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >>
> > Thanks for the update and so glad he's been taking physical therapy. So many people
> > think they'll be just fine without it or "once I'm home I'll mend quickly."
> >
> Generally, they think I CAN'T AFFORD THIS SHIT!
>
Sadly, that's true many times, others just want to get home.

One of the maintenance men at work had a stroke many years ago. "I gotta get
home, I gotta get back to work." He had/has great insurance but his refusal to
remain in the hospital and then go for physical therapy has left him a terrible cripple.
That's not to say the therapy would have corrected his immediate disability but there's
nothing that can be done for him now.

On 23:10 25 Apr 2021, said:

> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 4:44:12 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 11:46:29 AM UTC-5,
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> He should be home on Wednesday. He's been in a physical rehab
>> >> facility.
>> >>
>> >> Jill
>> >>
>> > Thanks for the update and so glad he's been taking physical
>> > therapy. So many people think they'll be just fine without it
>> > or "once I'm home I'll mend quickly."
>> >
>> Generally, they think I CAN'T AFFORD THIS SHIT!
>>
> Sadly, that's true many times, others just want to get home.
>
> One of the maintenance men at work had a stroke many years ago.
> "I gotta get home, I gotta get back to work." He had/has great
> insurance but his refusal to remain in the hospital and then go
> for physical therapy has left him a terrible cripple. That's not
> to say the therapy would have corrected his immediate disability
> but there's nothing that can be done for him now.

Very sad.

On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 4:44:12 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 11:46:29 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>> >>
>> >> He should be home on Wednesday. He's been in a physical rehab facility.
>> >>
>> >> Jill
>> >>
>> > Thanks for the update and so glad he's been taking physical therapy. So many people
>> > think they'll be just fine without it or "once I'm home I'll mend quickly."
>> >
>> Generally, they think I CAN'T AFFORD THIS SHIT!
>>
>Sadly, that's true many times, others just want to get home.
>
>One of the maintenance men at work had a stroke many years ago. "I gotta get
>home, I gotta get back to work." He had/has great insurance but his refusal to
>remain in the hospital and then go for physical therapy has left him a terrible cripple.
>That's not to say the therapy would have corrected his immediate disability but there's
>nothing that can be done for him now.

He needs to ask his doctor if he can have therapy. It isn't my
understanding of Medicare that he can't.
I get authorized by my doctor at least once a year for some sort of
therapy for one ouchie or or another. I forget how many weeks
Medicare will go for, probably a couple times a year. No cost to me.
Janet US

US Janet wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 4:44:12 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 11:46:29 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> He should be home on Wednesday. He's been in a physical rehab facility.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the update and so glad he's been taking physical therapy. So many people
>>>> think they'll be just fine without it or "once I'm home I'll mend quickly."
>>>>
>>> Generally, they think I CAN'T AFFORD THIS SHIT!
>>>
>> Sadly, that's true many times, others just want to get home.
>>
>> One of the maintenance men at work had a stroke many years ago. "I gotta get
>> home, I gotta get back to work." He had/has great insurance but his refusal to
>> remain in the hospital and then go for physical therapy has left him a terrible cripple.
>> That's not to say the therapy would have corrected his immediate disability but there's
>> nothing that can be done for him now.
>
> He needs to ask his doctor if he can have therapy. It isn't my
> understanding of Medicare that he can't.
> I get authorized by my doctor at least once a year for some sort of
> therapy for one ouchie or or another. I forget how many weeks
> Medicare will go for, probably a couple times a year. No cost to me.
> Janet US
>

Popeye could get treated at the VA.

If he served over three years, he qualifies. I know, because I did.

But they won't allow him to **** all the nurses.

On 4/25/2021 8:08 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> US Janet wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 4:44:12 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 11:46:29 AM UTC-5,
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He should be home on Wednesday. He's been in a physical rehab
>>>>>> facility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the update and so glad he's been taking physical
>>>>> therapy. So many people
>>>>> think they'll be just fine without it or "once I'm home I'll mend
>>>>> quickly."
>>>>>
>>>> Generally, they think I CAN'T AFFORD THIS SHIT!
>>>>
>>> Sadly, that's true many times, others just want to get home.
>>>
>>> One of the maintenance men at work had a stroke many years ago.Â* "I
>>> gotta get
>>> home, I gotta get back to work."Â* He had/has great insurance but his
>>> refusal to
>>> remain in the hospital and then go for physical therapy has left him
>>> a terrible cripple.
>>> That's not to say the therapy would have corrected his immediate
>>> disability but there's
>>> nothing that can be done for him now.
>>
>> He needs to ask his doctor if he can have therapy.Â* It isn't my
>> understanding of Medicare that he can't.
>> I get authorized by my doctor at least once a year for some sort of
>> therapy for one ouchie or or another.Â* I forget how many weeks
>> Medicare will go for, probably a couple times a year.Â* No cost to me.
>> Janet US
>>
>
> Popeye could get treated at the VA.
>
> If he served over three years, he qualifies. I know, because I did.
>
> But they won't allow him to **** all the nurses.
>
>
>
>
I imagine they would be sneaking into his room to give him some therapy.

Heywood wrote:
> On 4/25/2021 8:08 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
>> US Janet wrote:
>>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT),
>>> "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 4:44:12 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 11:46:29 AM UTC-5,
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He should be home on Wednesday. He's been in a physical
>>>>>>> rehab facility.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the update and so glad he's been taking physical
>>>>>> therapy. So many people
>>>>>> think they'll be just fine without it or "once I'm home I'll
>>>>>> mend quickly."
>>>>>>
>>>>> Generally, they think I CAN'T AFFORD THIS SHIT!
>>>>>
>>>> Sadly, that's true many times, others just want to get home.
>>>>
>>>> One of the maintenance men at work had a stroke many years
>>>> ago.Â* "I gotta get
>>>> home, I gotta get back to work."Â* He had/has great insurance
>>>> but his refusal to
>>>> remain in the hospital and then go for physical therapy has
>>>> left him a terrible cripple.
>>>> That's not to say the therapy would have corrected his
>>>> immediate disability but there's
>>>> nothing that can be done for him now.
>>>
>>> He needs to ask his doctor if he can have therapy.Â* It isn't my
>>> understanding of Medicare that he can't.
>>> I get authorized by my doctor at least once a year for some sort of
>>> therapy for one ouchie or or another.Â* I forget how many weeks
>>> Medicare will go for, probably a couple times a year.Â* No cost
>>> to me.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>>
>> Popeye could get treated at the VA.
>>
>> If he served over three years, he qualifies. I know, because I did.
>>
>> But they won't allow him to **** all the nurses.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> I imagine they would be sneaking into his room to give him some
> therapy.

Yeah, he can't knock the wimmens off with a baseball bat.

On 2021-04-25 7:54 p.m., US Janet wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT), "

>> One of the maintenance men at work had a stroke many years ago. "I gotta get
>> home, I gotta get back to work." He had/has great insurance but his refusal to
>> remain in the hospital and then go for physical therapy has left him a terrible cripple.
>> That's not to say the therapy would have corrected his immediate disability but there's
>> nothing that can be done for him now.
>
> He needs to ask his doctor if he can have therapy. It isn't my
> understanding of Medicare that he can't.

We had a pretty damned good health care system here, but physiotherapy
is not always covered. From what I understand, if a doctor prescribes it
and refers you to the hospital it is covered by the government. I have
extended health care and if the doctor prescribes it I am covered by my
extended health care to a limit. If you have to pay for it yourself...
well, it's pretty damned expensive.



> I get authorized by my doctor at least once a year for some sort of
> therapy for one ouchie or or another. I forget how many weeks
> Medicare will go for, probably a couple times a year. No cost to me.


When I was on workman's compensation it was totally covered. When I was
prescribe physio for tennis elbow I had to pay and then apply to the
insurance company for reimbursement. It sure wasn't cheap.

Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-04-25 7:54 p.m., US Janet wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT),
>> "
>
>>> One of the maintenance men at work had a stroke many years ago.
>>> "I gotta get
>>> home, I gotta get back to work."* He had/has great insurance but
>>> his refusal to
>>> remain in the hospital and then go for physical therapy has left
>>> him a terrible cripple.
>>> That's not to say the therapy would have corrected his immediate
>>> disability but there's
>>> nothing that can be done for him now.
>>
>> He needs to ask his doctor if he can have therapy.* It isn't my
>> understanding of Medicare that he can't.
>
> We had a pretty damned good health care system here, but
> physiotherapy is not always covered. From what I understand, if a
> doctor prescribes it and refers you to the hospital it is covered
> by the government.* I have extended health care and if the doctor
> prescribes it I am covered by my extended health care to a limit.
> If you have to pay for it yourself... well, it's pretty damned
> expensive.
>
>
>
>> I get authorized by my doctor at least once a year for some sort of
>> therapy for one ouchie or or another.* I forget how many weeks
>> Medicare will go for, probably a couple times a year.* No cost to
>> me.
>
>
> When I was on workman's compensation it was totally covered. When I
> was prescribe physio for tennis elbow I had to pay and then apply
> to the insurance company for reimbursement. It sure wasn't cheap.
>
>

Did Popeye move to canada???

On 2021-04-25 6:28 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-04-25 7:54 p.m., US Janet wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT), "
>
>>> One of the maintenance men at work had a stroke many years ago.Â* "I
>>> gotta get
>>> home, I gotta get back to work."Â* He had/has great insurance but his
>>> refusal to
>>> remain in the hospital and then go for physical therapy has left him
>>> a terrible cripple.
>>> That's not to say the therapy would have corrected his immediate
>>> disability but there's
>>> nothing that can be done for him now.
>>
>> He needs to ask his doctor if he can have therapy.Â* It isn't my
>> understanding of Medicare that he can't.
>
> We had a pretty damned good health care system here, but physiotherapy
> is not always covered. From what I understand, if a doctor prescribes it
> and refers you to the hospital it is covered by the government.Â* I have
> extended health care and if the doctor prescribes it I am covered by my
> extended health care to a limit.Â* If you have to pay for it yourself...
> well, it's pretty damned expensive.
>
What ****es me off is that my extended coverage will pay for quackery
(chiropracters)
but not physio unless I go for the top tier plan.

Graham wrote:

> On 2021-04-25 6:28 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2021-04-25 7:54 p.m., US Janet wrote:
> > > On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT),
> > > "
> >
> > > > One of the maintenance men at work had a stroke many years
> > > > ago.Â* "I gotta get home, I gotta get back to work."Â* He
> > > > had/has great insurance but his refusal to remain in the
> > > > hospital and then go for physical therapy has left him a
> > > > terrible cripple. That's not to say the therapy would have
> > > > corrected his immediate disability but there's nothing that
> > > > can be done for him now.
> > >
> > > He needs to ask his doctor if he can have therapy.Â* It isn't my
> > > understanding of Medicare that he can't.
> >
> > We had a pretty damned good health care system here, but
> > physiotherapy is not always covered. From what I understand, if a
> > doctor prescribes it and refers you to the hospital it is covered
> > by the government.Â* I have extended health care and if the doctor
> > prescribes it I am covered by my extended health care to a limit.Â*
> > If you have to pay for it yourself... well, it's pretty damned
> > expensive.
> >
> What ****es me off is that my extended coverage will pay for quackery
> (chiropracters) but not physio unless I go for the top tier plan.

That's because you have a very narrowminded view of what's quackery.

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On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 21:50:27 -0600, Graham > wrote:

>On 2021-04-25 6:28 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-04-25 7:54 p.m., US Janet wrote:
>>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT), "
>>
>>>> One of the maintenance men at work had a stroke many years ago.* "I
>>>> gotta get
>>>> home, I gotta get back to work."* He had/has great insurance but his
>>>> refusal to
>>>> remain in the hospital and then go for physical therapy has left him
>>>> a terrible cripple.
>>>> That's not to say the therapy would have corrected his immediate
>>>> disability but there's
>>>> nothing that can be done for him now.
>>>
>>> He needs to ask his doctor if he can have therapy.* It isn't my
>>> understanding of Medicare that he can't.
>>
>> We had a pretty damned good health care system here, but physiotherapy
>> is not always covered. From what I understand, if a doctor prescribes it
>> and refers you to the hospital it is covered by the government.* I have
>> extended health care and if the doctor prescribes it I am covered by my
>> extended health care to a limit.* If you have to pay for it yourself...
>> well, it's pretty damned expensive.
>>
>What ****es me off is that my extended coverage will pay for quackery
>(chiropracters)
>but not physio unless I go for the top tier plan.

I loathe those chiropracters, they are worse than quackery. Just
watching another friend who has been sucked into the system
deteriorating. I was frank and said to her could she not see that it
is in the chiropracters interests to make sure she keeps going back,
if she was cured, she is a loss!! At least she is thinking about it
now.

Marketplace did an item on them about 3 or 4 years ago, showed a woman
in her 30s, the chiropracter had done one of those 'alignments' on her
and apparently it squeezed the carotid (sp ?) artery so badly that she
instantly had a major stroke and would never walk again.

On 4/26/2021 7:27 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:

> I loathe those chiropracters, they are worse than quackery. Just
> watching another friend who has been sucked into the system
> deteriorating. I was frank and said to her could she not see that it
> is in the chiropracters interests to make sure she keeps going back,
> if she was cured, she is a loss!! At least she is thinking about it
> now.
>
> Marketplace did an item on them about 3 or 4 years ago, showed a woman
> in her 30s, the chiropracter had done one of those 'alignments' on her
> and apparently it squeezed the carotid (sp ?) artery so badly that she
> instantly had a major stroke and would never walk again.
>

They have a place, but a very limited place. Stiff neck? Sure. Other
diseases? No way.

On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 10:33:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 4/26/2021 7:27 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>
>> I loathe those chiropracters, they are worse than quackery. Just
>> watching another friend who has been sucked into the system
>> deteriorating. I was frank and said to her could she not see that it
>> is in the chiropracters interests to make sure she keeps going back,
>> if she was cured, she is a loss!! At least she is thinking about it
>> now.
>>
>> Marketplace did an item on them about 3 or 4 years ago, showed a woman
>> in her 30s, the chiropracter had done one of those 'alignments' on her
>> and apparently it squeezed the carotid (sp ?) artery so badly that she
>> instantly had a major stroke and would never walk again.
>>
>
>They have a place, but a very limited place. Stiff neck? Sure. Other
>diseases? No way.

Lol that is why that young woman went to a chiropractor!

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 4/26/2021 7:27 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>
> > I loathe those chiropracters, they are worse than quackery. Just
> > watching another friend who has been sucked into the system
> > deteriorating. I was frank and said to her could she not see that
> > it is in the chiropracters interests to make sure she keeps going
> > back, if she was cured, she is a loss!! At least she is thinking
> > about it now.
> >
> > Marketplace did an item on them about 3 or 4 years ago, showed a
> > woman in her 30s, the chiropracter had done one of those
> > 'alignments' on her and apparently it squeezed the carotid (sp ?)
> > artery so badly that she instantly had a major stroke and would
> > never walk again.
> >
>
> They have a place, but a very limited place. Stiff neck? Sure.
> Other diseases? No way.

That's like saying don't ask a dentist to fix your broken leg.

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On 2021-04-26 5:27 a.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 21:50:27 -0600, Graham > wrote:
>
>> On 2021-04-25 6:28 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2021-04-25 7:54 p.m., US Janet wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>
>>>>> One of the maintenance men at work had a stroke many years ago.Â* "I
>>>>> gotta get
>>>>> home, I gotta get back to work."Â* He had/has great insurance but his
>>>>> refusal to
>>>>> remain in the hospital and then go for physical therapy has left him
>>>>> a terrible cripple.
>>>>> That's not to say the therapy would have corrected his immediate
>>>>> disability but there's
>>>>> nothing that can be done for him now.
>>>>
>>>> He needs to ask his doctor if he can have therapy.Â* It isn't my
>>>> understanding of Medicare that he can't.
>>>
>>> We had a pretty damned good health care system here, but physiotherapy
>>> is not always covered. From what I understand, if a doctor prescribes it
>>> and refers you to the hospital it is covered by the government.Â* I have
>>> extended health care and if the doctor prescribes it I am covered by my
>>> extended health care to a limit.Â* If you have to pay for it yourself...
>>> well, it's pretty damned expensive.
>>>
>> What ****es me off is that my extended coverage will pay for quackery
>> (chiropracters)
>> but not physio unless I go for the top tier plan.
>
> I loathe those chiropracters, they are worse than quackery. Just
> watching another friend who has been sucked into the system
> deteriorating. I was frank and said to her could she not see that it
> is in the chiropracters interests to make sure she keeps going back,
> if she was cured, she is a loss!! At least she is thinking about it
> now.
>
> Marketplace did an item on them about 3 or 4 years ago, showed a woman
> in her 30s, the chiropracter had done one of those 'alignments' on her
> and apparently it squeezed the carotid (sp ?) artery so badly that she
> instantly had a major stroke and would never walk again.
>
And another thing:
Chiropracters and Naturopaths in Alberta were given priority for covid
shots over emergency first responders!

Graham wrote:

> On 2021-04-26 5:27 a.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> > On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 21:50:27 -0600, Graham > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2021-04-25 6:28 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> >>> On 2021-04-25 7:54 p.m., US Janet wrote:
> >>>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT), "
> >>>
> >>>>> One of the maintenance men at work had a stroke many years ago. "I
> >>>>> gotta get
> >>>>> home, I gotta get back to work." He had/has great insurance but his
> >>>>> refusal to
> >>>>> remain in the hospital and then go for physical therapy has left him
> >>>>> a terrible cripple.
> >>>>> That's not to say the therapy would have corrected his immediate
> >>>>> disability but there's
> >>>>> nothing that can be done for him now.
> >>>>
> >>>> He needs to ask his doctor if he can have therapy. It isn't my
> >>>> understanding of Medicare that he can't.
> >>>
> >>> We had a pretty damned good health care system here, but physiotherapy
> >>> is not always covered. From what I understand, if a doctor prescribes it
> >>> and refers you to the hospital it is covered by the government. I have
> >>> extended health care and if the doctor prescribes it I am covered by my
> >>> extended health care to a limit. If you have to pay for it yourself...
> >>> well, it's pretty damned expensive.
> >>>
> >> What ****es me off is that my extended coverage will pay for quackery
> >> (chiropracters)
> >> but not physio unless I go for the top tier plan.
> >
> > I loathe those chiropracters, they are worse than quackery. Just
> > watching another friend who has been sucked into the system
> > deteriorating. I was frank and said to her could she not see that it
> > is in the chiropracters interests to make sure she keeps going back,
> > if she was cured, she is a loss!! At least she is thinking about it
> > now.
> >
> > Marketplace did an item on them about 3 or 4 years ago, showed a woman
> > in her 30s, the chiropracter had done one of those 'alignments' on her
> > and apparently it squeezed the carotid (sp ?) artery so badly that she
> > instantly had a major stroke and would never walk again.
> >
> And another thing:
> Chiropracters and Naturopaths in Alberta were given priority for covid
> shots over emergency first responders!


That's what you get with socialist health care, Graham...!!!

;-P

--
Best
Greg

On 2021-04-26 10:49 a.m., Graham wrote:
> On 2021-04-26 5:27 a.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:


>> Marketplace did an item on them about 3 or 4 years ago, showed a woman
>> in her 30s, the chiropracter had done one of those 'alignments' on her
>> and apparently it squeezed the carotid (sp ?) artery so badly that she
>> instantly had a major stroke and would never walk again.
>>
> And another thing:
> Chiropracters and Naturopaths in Alberta were given priority for covid
> shots over emergency first responders!

Despite claims that the border closed at the beginning of the pandemic
we have been seeing thousands and thousands of people arriving by air
from covid hot spots, and a lot of them have been infected. Now the
migrant farm workers are arriving and because there were so many
outbreaks among them last year they have been given priority. The plan
was to vaccinate them at the airport upon arrival. There are no plans
for priority vaccination for our border guards who are dealing with
these people.

Graham wrote:

> On 2021-04-26 5:27 a.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 21:50:27 -0600, Graham > wrote:
> >
> > > On 2021-04-25 6:28 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > On 2021-04-25 7:54 p.m., US Janet wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT),
> > > > > "
> > > >
> > > > > > One of the maintenance men at work had a stroke many years
> > > > > > ago.Â* "I gotta get
> > > > > > home, I gotta get back to work."Â* He had/has great
> > > > > > insurance but his refusal to
> > > > > > remain in the hospital and then go for physical therapy has
> > > > > > left him a terrible cripple.
> > > > > > That's not to say the therapy would have corrected his
> > > > > > immediate disability but there's
> > > > > > nothing that can be done for him now.
> > > > >
> > > > > He needs to ask his doctor if he can have therapy.Â* It isn't
> > > > > my understanding of Medicare that he can't.
> > > >
> > > > We had a pretty damned good health care system here, but
> > > > physiotherapy is not always covered. From what I understand, if
> > > > a doctor prescribes it and refers you to the hospital it is
> > > > covered by the government.Â* I have extended health care and if
> > > > the doctor prescribes it I am covered by my extended health
> > > > care to a limit.Â* If you have to pay for it yourself... well,
> > > > it's pretty damned expensive.
> > > >
> > > What ****es me off is that my extended coverage will pay for
> > > quackery (chiropracters)
> > > but not physio unless I go for the top tier plan.
> >
> > I loathe those chiropracters, they are worse than quackery. Just
> > watching another friend who has been sucked into the system
> > deteriorating. I was frank and said to her could she not see that
> > it is in the chiropracters interests to make sure she keeps going
> > back, if she was cured, she is a loss!! At least she is thinking
> > about it now.
> >
> > Marketplace did an item on them about 3 or 4 years ago, showed a
> > woman in her 30s, the chiropracter had done one of those
> > 'alignments' on her and apparently it squeezed the carotid (sp ?)
> > artery so badly that she instantly had a major stroke and would
> > never walk again.
> >
> And another thing:
> Chiropracters and Naturopaths in Alberta were given priority for
> covid shots over emergency first responders!

lol, that must have ****ed you off to no end.

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Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 21:50:27 -0600, Graham > wrote:
>
>> On 2021-04-25 6:28 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2021-04-25 7:54 p.m., US Janet wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>
>>>>> One of the maintenance men at work had a stroke many years ago.Â* "I
>>>>> gotta get
>>>>> home, I gotta get back to work."Â* He had/has great insurance but his
>>>>> refusal to
>>>>> remain in the hospital and then go for physical therapy has left him
>>>>> a terrible cripple.
>>>>> That's not to say the therapy would have corrected his immediate
>>>>> disability but there's
>>>>> nothing that can be done for him now.
>>>>
>>>> He needs to ask his doctor if he can have therapy.Â* It isn't my
>>>> understanding of Medicare that he can't.
>>>
>>> We had a pretty damned good health care system here, but physiotherapy
>>> is not always covered. From what I understand, if a doctor prescribes it
>>> and refers you to the hospital it is covered by the government.Â* I have
>>> extended health care and if the doctor prescribes it I am covered by my
>>> extended health care to a limit.Â* If you have to pay for it yourself...
>>> well, it's pretty damned expensive.
>>>
>> What ****es me off is that my extended coverage will pay for quackery
>> (chiropracters)
>> but not physio unless I go for the top tier plan.
>
> I loathe those chiropracters, they are worse than quackery. Just
> watching another friend who has been sucked into the system
> deteriorating. I was frank and said to her could she not see that it
> is in the chiropracters interests to make sure she keeps going back,
> if she was cured, she is a loss!! At least she is thinking about it
> now.

How does that differentiate them form any other medical body mechanic
you insipid ****?

teel wrote:

> Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 21:50:27 -0600, Graham > wrote:
> >
> > > On 2021-04-25 6:28 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > On 2021-04-25 7:54 p.m., US Janet wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT),
> > > > > "
> > > >
> > > > > > One of the maintenance men at work had a stroke many years
> > > > > > ago.Â* "I gotta get
> > > > > > home, I gotta get back to work."Â* He had/has great
> > > > > > insurance but his refusal to
> > > > > > remain in the hospital and then go for physical therapy has
> > > > > > left him a terrible cripple.
> > > > > > That's not to say the therapy would have corrected his
> > > > > > immediate disability but there's
> > > > > > nothing that can be done for him now.
> > > > >
> > > > > He needs to ask his doctor if he can have therapy.Â* It isn't
> > > > > my understanding of Medicare that he can't.
> > > >
> > > > We had a pretty damned good health care system here, but
> > > > physiotherapy is not always covered. From what I understand, if
> > > > a doctor prescribes it and refers you to the hospital it is
> > > > covered by the government.Â* I have extended health care and if
> > > > the doctor prescribes it I am covered by my extended health
> > > > care to a limit.Â* If you have to pay for it yourself... well,
> > > > it's pretty damned expensive.
> > > >
> > > What ****es me off is that my extended coverage will pay for
> > > quackery (chiropracters)
> > > but not physio unless I go for the top tier plan.
> >
> > I loathe those chiropracters, they are worse than quackery. Just
> > watching another friend who has been sucked into the system
> > deteriorating. I was frank and said to her could she not see that
> > it is in the chiropracters interests to make sure she keeps going
> > back, if she was cured, she is a loss!! At least she is thinking
> > about it now.
>
> How does that differentiate them form any other medical body mechanic
> you insipid ****?


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On 2021-04-25 11:50 p.m., Graham wrote:
> On 2021-04-25 6:28 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:

>> We had a pretty damned good health care system here, but physiotherapy
>> is not always covered. From what I understand, if a doctor prescribes
>> it and refers you to the hospital it is covered by the government.Â* I
>> have extended health care and if the doctor prescribes it I am covered
>> by my extended health care to a limit.Â* If you have to pay for it
>> yourself... well, it's pretty damned expensive.
>>
> What ****es me off is that my extended coverage will pay for quackery
> (chiropracters)
> but not physio unless I go for the top tier plan.
>

I don't trust chiropractors. I don't know anyone who has been to one
and been fixed. They get some temporary relief but always have to go
back for more. I have been to physiotherapy for my back and for tennis
elbow and they fixed me up permanently.

Dave Smith wrote:
....
> I don't trust chiropractors. I don't know anyone who has been to one
> and been fixed. They get some temporary relief but always have to go
> back for more. I have been to physiotherapy for my back and for tennis
> elbow and they fixed me up permanently.

they've done fine for me. note, i've also had good results from
physical therapy and massage. so far i've not had any surgery for
my various back issues and i don't need drugs. once in a while i
do go back for an adjustment when i can feel my lower back and hips
start to give me the feeling that they are not moving well any more.
at present that means i go to visit him about once a year.

when gardening season gets underway that usually helps all of my
back and hip issues more than anything else.


songbird

On 26/04/2021 15:30, songbird wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
> ...
>> I don't trust chiropractors. I don't know anyone who has been to one
>> and been fixed. They get some temporary relief but always have to go
>> back for more. I have been to physiotherapy for my back and for tennis
>> elbow and they fixed me up permanently.
>
> they've done fine for me. note, i've also had good results from
> physical therapy and massage. so far i've not had any surgery for
> my various back issues and i don't need drugs. once in a while i
> do go back for an adjustment when i can feel my lower back and hips
> start to give me the feeling that they are not moving well any more.
> at present that means i go to visit him about once a year.
>
> when gardening season gets underway that usually helps all of my
> back and hip issues more than anything else.
>
>
> songbird
>

===

My daughter loves hers too. She has problems with the bones in the
back on her neck. It always works for her for a few weeks with no pain
and then she goes back for another massage when it starts up again!

songbird wrote:

> Dave Smith wrote:
> ...
> > I don't trust chiropractors. I don't know anyone who has been to
> > one and been fixed. They get some temporary relief but always have
> > to go back for more. I have been to physiotherapy for my back and
> > for tennis elbow and they fixed me up permanently.
>
> they've done fine for me. note, i've also had good results from
> physical therapy and massage. so far i've not had any surgery for
> my various back issues and i don't need drugs. once in a while i
> do go back for an adjustment when i can feel my lower back and hips
> start to give me the feeling that they are not moving well any more.
> at present that means i go to visit him about once a year.
>
> when gardening season gets underway that usually helps all of my
> back and hip issues more than anything else.
>
>
> songbird


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On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 6:54:37 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote:
>
> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >One of the maintenance men at work had a stroke many years ago. "I gotta get
> >home, I gotta get back to work." He had/has great insurance but his refusal to
> >remain in the hospital and then go for physical therapy has left him a terrible cripple.
> >That's not to say the therapy would have corrected his immediate disability but there's
> >nothing that can be done for him now.
> >
> He needs to ask his doctor if he can have therapy. It isn't my
> understanding of Medicare that he can't.
>
This stroke was about 15-20 years ago, the damage has been done, and
nothing can help him now.
>
> I get authorized by my doctor at least once a year for some sort of
> therapy for one ouchie or or another. I forget how many weeks
> Medicare will go for, probably a couple times a year. No cost to me.
> Janet US
>
The doctors and nurses begged him to stay and receive therapy
but he refused. Company insurance would have paid for that.

On 4/25/2021 8:47 PM, wrote:
> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 6:54:37 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> One of the maintenance men at work had a stroke many years ago. "I gotta get
>>> home, I gotta get back to work." He had/has great insurance but his refusal to
>>> remain in the hospital and then go for physical therapy has left him a terrible cripple.
>>> That's not to say the therapy would have corrected his immediate disability but there's
>>> nothing that can be done for him now.
>>>
>> He needs to ask his doctor if he can have therapy. It isn't my
>> understanding of Medicare that he can't.
>>
> This stroke was about 15-20 years ago, the damage has been done, and
> nothing can help him now.

Yes, it's a little too late for him to try to make a claim.

>> I get authorized by my doctor at least once a year for some sort of
>> therapy for one ouchie or or another. I forget how many weeks
>> Medicare will go for, probably a couple times a year. No cost to me.
>> Janet US
>>
> The doctors and nurses begged him to stay and receive therapy
> but he refused. Company insurance would have paid for that.
>
That's very sad.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:

> On 4/25/2021 8:47 PM, wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 6:54:37 PM UTC-5, US Janet wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > One of the maintenance men at work had a stroke many years ago.
> > > > "I gotta get home, I gotta get back to work." He had/has great
> > > > insurance but his refusal to remain in the hospital and then go
> > > > for physical therapy has left him a terrible cripple. That's
> > > > not to say the therapy would have corrected his immediate
> > > > disability but there's nothing that can be done for him now.
> > > >
> > > He needs to ask his doctor if he can have therapy. It isn't my
> > > understanding of Medicare that he can't.
> > >
> > This stroke was about 15-20 years ago, the damage has been done, and
> > nothing can help him now.
>
> Yes, it's a little too late for him to try to make a claim.
>
> > > I get authorized by my doctor at least once a year for some sort
> > > of therapy for one ouchie or or another. I forget how many weeks
> > > Medicare will go for, probably a couple times a year. No cost to
> > > me. Janet US
> > >
> > The doctors and nurses begged him to stay and receive therapy
> > but he refused. Company insurance would have paid for that.
> >
> That's very sad.
>
> Jill


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