On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 20:10:44 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Mon, 08 Mar 2021 22:25:12 -0500, Boron Elgar wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 19:10:47 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>I remember my mother cooking lamb chops once, and that was when my
>>>father was away on a business trip. He hated it. I know if it was a
>>>life long dislike of lamb or the result of spending three years in the
>>>UK during the war and being fed a lot of mutton.
>>
>> I have never had mutton. In all my travels I just did not happen upon
>> it at the right time, right place. I have never seen it in a store,
>> either. There must be some specialized ethnic markets/restaurants that
>> offer it. I'd say I'd pay particular attention to see if I could try
>> it, but it has been over a year now....
>
>I'd like to find it. I looked for for about a year a bunch of years
>ago and all I could find was a whole one, cut up into a "6 way cut"
>(halved, then the hinds, breast/loin racks, and shoulders. But it
>was unclear if it was actually mutton or just lamb.
>
>I think I'd like the extra gamey taste.
>
>-sw

That is a flavor characteristic that can, at times, make venison
beyond me.

Many peeps who dislike even young spring lamb, mention a gaminess to
it, that I have never noticed at all.

On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 08:40:13 -0500, Boron Elgar wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 20:10:44 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>>I'd like to find it. I looked for for about a year a bunch of years
>>ago and all I could find was a whole one, cut up into a "6 way cut"
>>(halved, then the hinds, breast/loin racks, and shoulders. But it
>>was unclear if it was actually mutton or just lamb.
>>
>>I think I'd like the extra gamey taste.
>
> That is a flavor characteristic that can, at times, make venison
> beyond me.
>
> Many peeps who dislike even young spring lamb, mention a gaminess to
> it, that I have never noticed at all.

I don't like the gaminess of venison, but I like the gamey taste of
lamb. "Gamey" is not just one flavor. It's just a flavor stronger
than beef and each species has it's own unique gamey flavor.

-sw

On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 10:45:45 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 08:40:13 -0500, Boron Elgar wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 20:10:44 -0600, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I'd like to find it. I looked for for about a year a bunch of years
>>>ago and all I could find was a whole one, cut up into a "6 way cut"
>>>(halved, then the hinds, breast/loin racks, and shoulders. But it
>>>was unclear if it was actually mutton or just lamb.
>>>
>>>I think I'd like the extra gamey taste.
>>
>> That is a flavor characteristic that can, at times, make venison
>> beyond me.
>>
>> Many peeps who dislike even young spring lamb, mention a gaminess to
>> it, that I have never noticed at all.
>
>I don't like the gaminess of venison, but I like the gamey taste of
>lamb. "Gamey" is not just one flavor. It's just a flavor stronger
>than beef and each species has it's own unique gamey flavor.
>
>-sw

venison taste can vary if the animal spent most of its life in a pine
forest or a farmer's field.
Janet US

On 2021-03-10 11:00 a.m., US Janet wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 10:45:45 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 08:40:13 -0500, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 20:10:44 -0600, Sqwertz >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd like to find it. I looked for for about a year a bunch of years
>>>> ago and all I could find was a whole one, cut up into a "6 way cut"
>>>> (halved, then the hinds, breast/loin racks, and shoulders. But it
>>>> was unclear if it was actually mutton or just lamb.
>>>>
>>>> I think I'd like the extra gamey taste.
>>>
>>> That is a flavor characteristic that can, at times, make venison
>>> beyond me.
>>>
>>> Many peeps who dislike even young spring lamb, mention a gaminess to
>>> it, that I have never noticed at all.
>>
>> I don't like the gaminess of venison, but I like the gamey taste of
>> lamb. "Gamey" is not just one flavor. It's just a flavor stronger
>> than beef and each species has it's own unique gamey flavor.
>>
>> -sw
>
> venison taste can vary if the animal spent most of its life in a pine
> forest or a farmer's field.
> Janet US
>
And also the cut! I enjoyed some caribou steaks one year and when it
appeared the following year I bought some cutlets from the front quarter
and some ground. The flavour was too strong and the neighbour's dog
benefited from our loss of appetite for it.

On 2021-03-10 1:51 p.m., Graham wrote:
> On 2021-03-10 11:00 a.m., US Janet wrote:

>> venison taste can vary if the animal spent most of its life in a pine
>> forest or a farmer's field.
>> Janet US
>>
> And also the cut! I enjoyed some caribou steaks one year and when it
> appeared the following year I bought some cutlets from the front quarter
> and some ground. The flavour was too strong and the neighbour's dog
> benefited from our loss of appetite for it.


I had a good friend who was part Inuit. His parents had moved back to
the north and used to send back all sorts of game and fish for his
family. He got together for many a meal of caribou and Arctic char. The
char was great but the caribou was nothing to write home about. His son
used to alter the Inuit word for it and called it ooyuck.

On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 14:44:13 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2021-03-10 1:51 p.m., Graham wrote:
>> On 2021-03-10 11:00 a.m., US Janet wrote:
>
>>> venison taste can vary if the animal spent most of its life in a pine
>>> forest or a farmer's field.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> And also the cut! I enjoyed some caribou steaks one year and when it
>> appeared the following year I bought some cutlets from the front quarter
>> and some ground. The flavour was too strong and the neighbour's dog
>> benefited from our loss of appetite for it.
>
>
>I had a good friend who was part Inuit. His parents had moved back to
>the north and used to send back all sorts of game and fish for his
>family. He got together for many a meal of caribou and Arctic char. The
>char was great but the caribou was nothing to write home about. His son
>used to alter the Inuit word for it and called it ooyuck.
>
Are you saying that the next time we see caribou on special, we'd
better not get it?

--
The real Bruce posts with Eternal September

Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 14:44:13 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2021-03-10 1:51 p.m., Graham wrote:
>>> On 2021-03-10 11:00 a.m., US Janet wrote:
>>
>>>> venison taste can vary if the animal spent most of its life in a pine
>>>> forest or a farmer's field.
>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>> And also the cut! I enjoyed some caribou steaks one year and when it
>>> appeared the following year I bought some cutlets from the front quarter
>>> and some ground. The flavour was too strong and the neighbour's dog
>>> benefited from our loss of appetite for it.
>>
>>
>> I had a good friend who was part Inuit. His parents had moved back to
>> the north and used to send back all sorts of game and fish for his
>> family. He got together for many a meal of caribou and Arctic char. The
>> char was great but the caribou was nothing to write home about. His son
>> used to alter the Inuit word for it and called it ooyuck.
>>
> Are you saying that the next time we see caribou on special, we'd
> better not get it?
>

Read it again, slowly, and use your finger to follow the words as
you say them aloud.

On 2021 Mar 10, , Bruce wrote
(in >):

> Are you saying that the next time we see caribou on special, we'd
> better not get it?

I ate caribou a few times during two weeks on the Kanektok River in the late
Eighties. Caribou was a welcome break from the coho salmon that we ate at
least twice a day.
That´s the furthest that I´ve ever been from home. Big planes and small
planes and dirt runways. The hell with that. Home means Nevada!

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZUOQF4eq5A>

On 2021 Mar 10, , US Janet wrote
(in >):

> venison taste can vary if the animal spent most of its life in a pine
> forest or a farmer's field.

Or out in the sagebrush, pine and cedar of Southern Idaho and Nevada. Don't
use sage as a seasoning!

leo

On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 17:51:01 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2021 Mar 10, , US Janet wrote
>(in >):
>
>> venison taste can vary if the animal spent most of its life in a pine
>> forest or a farmer's field.
>
>Or out in the sagebrush, pine and cedar of Southern Idaho and Nevada. Don't
>use sage as a seasoning!
>
>leo
>
True. Pre-seasoned.
Janet US

On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 10:45:45 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 08:40:13 -0500, Boron Elgar wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 20:10:44 -0600, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I'd like to find it. I looked for for about a year a bunch of years
>>>ago and all I could find was a whole one, cut up into a "6 way cut"
>>>(halved, then the hinds, breast/loin racks, and shoulders. But it
>>>was unclear if it was actually mutton or just lamb.
>>>
>>>I think I'd like the extra gamey taste.
>>
>> That is a flavor characteristic that can, at times, make venison
>> beyond me.
>>
>> Many peeps who dislike even young spring lamb, mention a gaminess to
>> it, that I have never noticed at all.
>
>I don't like the gaminess of venison, but I like the gamey taste of
>lamb. "Gamey" is not just one flavor. It's just a flavor stronger
>than beef and each species has it's own unique gamey flavor.
>
>-sw

Indeed. Wild duck or goose can have its own gaminess flavors, too.

Most domesticated meats are from early-culled critters bred for mild
taste. Sometimes I can find heritage breeds that are more flavorful,
but the costs can be through the roof.

On 2021-03-10 11:45 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 08:40:13 -0500, Boron Elgar wrote:

>> Many peeps who dislike even young spring lamb, mention a gaminess to
>> it, that I have never noticed at all.
>
> I don't like the gaminess of venison, but I like the gamey taste of
> lamb. "Gamey" is not just one flavor. It's just a flavor stronger
> than beef and each species has it's own unique gamey flavor.

I had a friend who used to hunt with her husband. She said that she
loved venison. I was surprised to hear her say that she disliked lamb
because it was gamey.

On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 08:40:13 -0500, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 20:10:44 -0600, Sqwertz >
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 08 Mar 2021 22:25:12 -0500, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 19:10:47 -0500, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>I remember my mother cooking lamb chops once, and that was when my
>>>>father was away on a business trip. He hated it. I know if it was a
>>>>life long dislike of lamb or the result of spending three years in the
>>>>UK during the war and being fed a lot of mutton.
>>>
>>> I have never had mutton. In all my travels I just did not happen upon
>>> it at the right time, right place. I have never seen it in a store,
>>> either. There must be some specialized ethnic markets/restaurants that
>>> offer it. I'd say I'd pay particular attention to see if I could try
>>> it, but it has been over a year now....
>>
>>I'd like to find it. I looked for for about a year a bunch of years
>>ago and all I could find was a whole one, cut up into a "6 way cut"
>>(halved, then the hinds, breast/loin racks, and shoulders. But it
>>was unclear if it was actually mutton or just lamb.
>>
>>I think I'd like the extra gamey taste.
>>
>>-sw
>
>That is a flavor characteristic that can, at times, make venison
>beyond me.
>
>Many peeps who dislike even young spring lamb, mention a gaminess to
>it, that I have never noticed at all.

The flavour of lamb varies greatly depending where it lived, NZ lamb
is great, Oz not so much, and I have grown used now to our NS lamb.

Lucretia Borgia wrote:
....
> The flavour of lamb varies greatly depending where it lived, NZ lamb
> is great, Oz not so much, and I have grown used now to our NS lamb.

someone told me that it can vary by variety of sheepies too
and i believe that just seeing how two beans can vary from each
other.

i've found that i like lamb if it is well trimmed or even better
yet already made into gyros.

i used to make my own lamb stew that i liked a lot but after lamb
got expensive and i moved in with someone who doesn't like lamb at
all it's a waste for me to cook it.


songbird

On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 08:40:13 -0500, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 20:10:44 -0600, Sqwertz >
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 08 Mar 2021 22:25:12 -0500, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 19:10:47 -0500, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>I remember my mother cooking lamb chops once, and that was when my
>>>>father was away on a business trip. He hated it. I know if it was a
>>>>life long dislike of lamb or the result of spending three years in the
>>>>UK during the war and being fed a lot of mutton.
>>>
>>> I have never had mutton. In all my travels I just did not happen upon
>>> it at the right time, right place. I have never seen it in a store,
>>> either. There must be some specialized ethnic markets/restaurants that
>>> offer it. I'd say I'd pay particular attention to see if I could try
>>> it, but it has been over a year now....
>>
>>I'd like to find it. I looked for for about a year a bunch of years
>>ago and all I could find was a whole one, cut up into a "6 way cut"
>>(halved, then the hinds, breast/loin racks, and shoulders. But it
>>was unclear if it was actually mutton or just lamb.
>>
>>I think I'd like the extra gamey taste.
>>
>>-sw
>
>That is a flavor characteristic that can, at times, make venison
>beyond me.
>
>Many peeps who dislike even young spring lamb, mention a gaminess to
>it, that I have never noticed at all.

When certain meat is severly overcooked or reheated mercilessly, I
refer to the taste as like bad venison. Lamb easily can fall into
that category if cooked until "done." That's why most leftover meat
in my house becomes sandwich meat or is dropped into hot gravy for
heating and immediately removed.
Janet US

On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 10:58:41 -0700, US Janet >
wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 08:40:13 -0500, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 20:10:44 -0600, Sqwertz >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 08 Mar 2021 22:25:12 -0500, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 19:10:47 -0500, Dave Smith
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I remember my mother cooking lamb chops once, and that was when my
>>>>>father was away on a business trip. He hated it. I know if it was a
>>>>>life long dislike of lamb or the result of spending three years in the
>>>>>UK during the war and being fed a lot of mutton.
>>>>
>>>> I have never had mutton. In all my travels I just did not happen upon
>>>> it at the right time, right place. I have never seen it in a store,
>>>> either. There must be some specialized ethnic markets/restaurants that
>>>> offer it. I'd say I'd pay particular attention to see if I could try
>>>> it, but it has been over a year now....
>>>
>>>I'd like to find it. I looked for for about a year a bunch of years
>>>ago and all I could find was a whole one, cut up into a "6 way cut"
>>>(halved, then the hinds, breast/loin racks, and shoulders. But it
>>>was unclear if it was actually mutton or just lamb.
>>>
>>>I think I'd like the extra gamey taste.
>>>
>>>-sw
>>
>>That is a flavor characteristic that can, at times, make venison
>>beyond me.
>>
>>Many peeps who dislike even young spring lamb, mention a gaminess to
>>it, that I have never noticed at all.
>
>When certain meat is severly overcooked or reheated mercilessly, I
>refer to the taste as like bad venison. Lamb easily can fall into
>that category if cooked until "done." That's why most leftover meat
>in my house becomes sandwich meat or is dropped into hot gravy for
>heating and immediately removed.
>Janet US

Yup- some meat/meta dishes have off tastes as leftovers. Ground beef
does not seem to bother me that way- leftover taco meat, spaghetti
sauce, or chili is just fine, as are most beef soups.

We are on day 3 of leftover beef with mushroom barley soup and it has
improved each day. Go figure.