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Bruce wrote:

> On Thu, 04 Mar 2021 21:01:39 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 01:57:04 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 11:11:30 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >>> On 03/03/2021 21:19, dsi1 wrote:
> >>> > On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:04:08 AM UTC-10, Sheldon

> wrote: >>> >> On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 09:25:54 -0500, Gary
> > wrote: >>> >>> On 3/2/2021 2:09 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>> >>>> Sheldon Martin wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>>> we rarely ate pasta at home... I still much
> >>> >>>>> prefer egg noodles.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Egg noodles aren't pasta?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Yes they are. Ask Mario Batali. His recipes for both are the

> same. >>> >>> I always use egg in my pasta and homemade is to die
> for. >>> >>>
> >>> >>> I know that some commercial dried pasta doesn't contain eggs.

> Inferior >>> >>> product, imo.
> >>> >> Most packaged pasta contains no eggs because a lot of people

> are >>> >> allergic to eggs so they won't buy any. Wontons and
> ravioli contain >>> >> no egg for the same reason. Eastern Europeans
> make wontons and >>> >> ravioli with egg, they're called kreploch.
> >>> >
> >>> > I think most Chinese noodles contain eggs. That includes won

> ton wrappers. Japanese ramen typically does not contain eggs.
> Hawaiian saimin noodles does because it's Chinese style noodles in a
> Hawaiian version of Japanese dashi. I think that Korean noodles are
> mostly egg-less because they're Japanese style noodles. >>> > >>> >
> Here's one of my favorite breakfast, Hawaiian saimin with won ton.
> It's a dish not found anywhere else on this planet - except maybe a
> few spots in Las Vegas. >>> > >>> >
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/uP72bSg9Sz2r5heLA >>> > >>> === >>> >>>
> What is the yellow, green and pink stuff?
> > >
> > > The yellow stuff is hot mustard and scrambled eggs. The green
> > > stuff is choy sum - a popular Chinese leafy vegetable. The pink
> > > stuff is kamaboko - fish cake. It's the same stuff that fake crab
> > > is made of.

> >
> > Ah, isn't that pollack

>
> /often blue whiting says Wikipedia. First it's denatured, meaning all
> flavours and smells are removed by rinsing it multiple times. Then
> additives are used to achieve the intended flavour.
>
> Ugh. Hawaiians like that, do they?


Not sure. My first impression was Kailua or Char Sui pork..
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Gary wrote:

> Bruce wrote:
> > Isn't there a Navy base in LA?

>
> If so, it wouldn't be a big one as no natural harbor there to my
> knowledge.
>
> The 3 largest US Navy bases that I can think of a
>
> - Norfolk, Va on the east coast
> - San Diego on the west coast
> - Pearl Harbor on Dsi1's rock
>
> There are many others but I think these are the main ones now.
> cshenk here would be a good one to ask as she's the most recently
> retired.


Those are the main ones. LA had a presence but BRAC closed it long ago.
It's mostly now a shipping spot for cars.

Lets add: Bremerton Washington, Corpus Christi TX, Groton CT, Yokosuka
and Sasebo Japan, Okinawa (White beach), Sigonella, Bahrain.

WE have significant footprints elsewhere but those probably are the
notable ones. Oh and for Norfolk, it's multiple locations but for
ships, primarily Norfolk, Virginia Beach, and Newport News with a
smaller shipyard in Portsmouth.
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dsi1 wrote:

> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 7:57:33 AM UTC-10, bruce bowser wrote:
>
> > That's precisely what I thought about Hawai'ian noodle bowls. So
> > many Koreans seem obsessed with trying to prove that they are
> > somehow ARE also Japanese. I never understood that.

>
> That makes two of us.. Most of the Asians - well, the older
> generation anyway, hate the Japanese. The Koreans hate them for sure.
> OTOH, my Korean mother-in-law spoke fluent Japanese and went to a
> university in Japan. That's what the rich Koreans did. She didn't
> think too much of me as boyfriend to her daughter. She wanted a nice
> Korean boy instead but what the heck, this is America, not Korea.
> That shit don't fly here.
>
> The Koreans, these days, have found themselves as a culture. You have
> the Japanese and Chinese young people digging Korean culture. Even
> the American kids wanna be Korean.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4NB73HTlxI


Cool watch!
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S Viemeister wrote:

> On 04/03/2021 20:02, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 7:57:33 AM UTC-10, bruce bowser wrote:
> >
> > > That's precisely what I thought about Hawai'ian noodle bowls. So
> > > many Koreans seem obsessed with trying to prove that they are
> > > somehow ARE also Japanese. I never understood that.

> >
> > That makes two of us.. Most of the Asians - well, the older
> > generation anyway, hate the Japanese. The Koreans hate them for
> > sure.

>
> One of the students at the school I used to volunteer at, was Korean.
> She was horrified when she discovered that I had Japanese cousins.


Japanese in WWII took Korean women back and put them in whore houses,
sadly. The shame will take time to recover.
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2021 21:04:32 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:

>S Viemeister wrote:
>
>> On 04/03/2021 20:02, dsi1 wrote:
>> > On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 7:57:33 AM UTC-10, bruce bowser wrote:
>> >
>> > > That's precisely what I thought about Hawai'ian noodle bowls. So
>> > > many Koreans seem obsessed with trying to prove that they are
>> > > somehow ARE also Japanese. I never understood that.
>> >
>> > That makes two of us.. Most of the Asians - well, the older
>> > generation anyway, hate the Japanese. The Koreans hate them for
>> > sure.

>>
>> One of the students at the school I used to volunteer at, was Korean.
>> She was horrified when she discovered that I had Japanese cousins.

>
>Japanese in WWII took Korean women back and put them in whore houses,
>sadly. The shame will take time to recover.


The Japs were a sadistic bunch.

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On 2021-03-04 10:04 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> S Viemeister wrote:

sure.
>>
>> One of the students at the school I used to volunteer at, was Korean.
>> She was horrified when she discovered that I had Japanese cousins.

>
> Japanese in WWII took Korean women back and put them in whore houses,
> sadly. The shame will take time to recover.
>


They were pretty nasty through out Asia. In China they slaughtered
300,000 civilians in Nanking alone. They used about 50,000 POWs for
slave labour and the death rate was about 20%. Then there were about
300,000 south Asian forced labourers and their death rate was as high as
50%.
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Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Mar 2021 21:04:32 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/03/2021 20:02, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 7:57:33 AM UTC-10, bruce bowser wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's precisely what I thought about Hawai'ian noodle bowls. So
>>>>> many Koreans seem obsessed with trying to prove that they are
>>>>> somehow ARE also Japanese. I never understood that.
>>>>
>>>> That makes two of us.. Most of the Asians - well, the older
>>>> generation anyway, hate the Japanese. The Koreans hate them for
>>>> sure.
>>>
>>> One of the students at the school I used to volunteer at, was Korean.
>>> She was horrified when she discovered that I had Japanese cousins.

>>
>> Japanese in WWII took Korean women back and put them in whore houses,
>> sadly. The shame will take time to recover.

>
> The Japs were a sadistic bunch.
>


Because they eat dead animals?

Or have bad whorehouses?


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On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 4:45:06 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 11:11:30 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > On 03/03/2021 21:19, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:04:08 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> > > >> On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 09:25:54 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> > > >>> On 3/2/2021 2:09 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> > > >>>> Sheldon Martin wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>> we rarely ate pasta at home... I still much
> > > >>>>> prefer egg noodles.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Egg noodles aren't pasta?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Yes they are. Ask Mario Batali. His recipes for both are the
> > > same. >>> I always use egg in my pasta and homemade is to die for.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I know that some commercial dried pasta doesn't contain eggs.
> > > Inferior >>> product, imo.
> > > >> Most packaged pasta contains no eggs because a lot of people are
> > > >> allergic to eggs so they won't buy any. Wontons and ravioli
> > > contain >> no egg for the same reason. Eastern Europeans make
> > > wontons and >> ravioli with egg, they're called kreploch.
> > > >
> > > > I think most Chinese noodles contain eggs. That includes won ton
> > > > wrappers. Japanese ramen typically does not contain eggs.
> > > > Hawaiian saimin noodles does because it's Chinese style noodles
> > > > in a Hawaiian version of Japanese dashi. I think that Korean
> > > > noodles are mostly egg-less because they're Japanese style
> > > > noodles.
> > > >
> > > > Here's one of my favorite breakfast, Hawaiian saimin with won
> > > > ton. It's a dish not found anywhere else on this planet - except
> > > > maybe a few spots in Las Vegas.
> > > >
> > > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/uP72bSg9Sz2r5heLA
> > > >
> > > ===
> > >
> > > What is the yellow, green and pink stuff?

> >
> > The yellow stuff is hot mustard and scrambled eggs. The green stuff
> > is choy sum - a popular Chinese leafy vegetable. The pink stuff is
> > kamaboko - fish cake. It's the same stuff that fake crab is made of.
> > The young kids love the stuff because it comes in fun shapes and
> > colors.
> >
> > https://keepingitrelle.com/delicious-kamaboko-dip/

> The other yellow stuff may be bamboo tender shoot? (in the bowl)


It's a Japan style rolled omlette.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvV97x9tpiY
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On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 9:57:01 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>
> > Bruce wrote:
> > > Isn't there a Navy base in LA?

> >
> > If so, it wouldn't be a big one as no natural harbor there to my
> > knowledge.
> >
> > The 3 largest US Navy bases that I can think of a
> >
> > - Norfolk, Va on the east coast
> > - San Diego on the west coast
> > - Pearl Harbor on Dsi1's rock
> >
> > There are many others but I think these are the main ones now.
> > cshenk here would be a good one to ask as she's the most recently
> > retired.

> Those are the main ones. LA had a presence but BRAC closed it long ago.
> It's mostly now a shipping spot for cars.
>
> Lets add: Bremerton Washington, Corpus Christi TX, Groton CT, Yokosuka
> and Sasebo Japan, Okinawa (White beach), Sigonella, Bahrain.
>
> WE have significant footprints elsewhere but those probably are the
> notable ones. Oh and for Norfolk, it's multiple locations but for
> ships, primarily Norfolk, Virginia Beach, and Newport News with a
> smaller shipyard in Portsmouth.


And everybody's favorite: Naval Support Facility Diego Garcia.

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On 04/03/2021 19:41, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 4:38:16 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> On 04/03/2021 09:57, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 11:11:30 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> On 03/03/2021 21:19, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:04:08 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 09:25:54 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/2/2021 2:09 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>>> Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> we rarely ate pasta at home... I still much
>>>>>>>>> prefer egg noodles.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Egg noodles aren't pasta?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes they are. Ask Mario Batali. His recipes for both are the same.
>>>>>>> I always use egg in my pasta and homemade is to die for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know that some commercial dried pasta doesn't contain eggs. Inferior
>>>>>>> product, imo.
>>>>>> Most packaged pasta contains no eggs because a lot of people are
>>>>>> allergic to eggs so they won't buy any. Wontons and ravioli contain
>>>>>> no egg for the same reason. Eastern Europeans make wontons and
>>>>>> ravioli with egg, they're called kreploch.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think most Chinese noodles contain eggs. That includes won ton wrappers. Japanese ramen typically does not contain eggs. Hawaiian saimin noodles does because it's Chinese style noodles in a Hawaiian version of Japanese dashi. I think that Korean noodles are mostly egg-less because they're Japanese style noodles.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's one of my favorite breakfast, Hawaiian saimin with won ton. It's a dish not found anywhere else on this planet - except maybe a few spots in Las Vegas.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/uP72bSg9Sz2r5heLA
>>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> What is the yellow, green and pink stuff?
>>>
>>> The yellow stuff is hot mustard and scrambled eggs. The green stuff is choy sum - a popular Chinese leafy vegetable. The pink stuff is kamaboko - fish cake. It's the same stuff that fake crab is made of. The young kids love the stuff because it comes in fun shapes and colors.
>>>
>>> https://keepingitrelle.com/delicious-kamaboko-dip/
>>>

>> ====
>>
>> Thank you! I doubt I will ever get to taste any of those But I would
>> love to ))

>
> You can make that dip recipe with fake crab. That's what my daughter does. She uses that to stuff won ton wrappers which she then deep fries.


Thank you but I doubt I will get around to it)

Today I am dealing with a load of onions so I can cook, 'sliders' I
read I can cook them in the slow cooker and store them. Sounds like a
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On 04/03/2021 20:02, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 7:57:33 AM UTC-10, bruce bowser wrote:
>
>> That's precisely what I thought about Hawai'ian noodle bowls. So many Koreans seem obsessed with trying to prove that they are somehow ARE also Japanese. I never understood that.

>
> That makes two of us.. Most of the Asians - well, the older generation anyway, hate the Japanese. The Koreans hate them for sure. OTOH, my Korean mother-in-law spoke fluent Japanese and went to a university in Japan. That's what the rich Koreans did. She didn't think too much of me as boyfriend to her daughter. She wanted a nice Korean boy instead but what the heck, this is America, not Korea. That shit don't fly here.
>
> The Koreans, these days, have found themselves as a culture. You have the Japanese and Chinese young people digging Korean culture. Even the American kids wanna be Korean.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4NB73HTlxI
>



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Never seen them before but I loved it)))
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On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 11:12:08 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-03-04 10:04 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> > S Viemeister wrote:

> sure.
> >>
> >> One of the students at the school I used to volunteer at, was Korean.
> >> She was horrified when she discovered that I had Japanese cousins.

> >
> > Japanese in WWII took Korean women back and put them in whore houses,
> > sadly. The shame will take time to recover.

>
> They were pretty nasty through out Asia. In China they slaughtered
> 300,000 civilians in Nanking alone. They used about 50,000 POWs for
> slave labour and the death rate was about 20%. Then there were about
> 300,000 south Asian forced labourers and their death rate was as high as
> 50%.


Bruce's one-sided history. The Mongol invasions of Japan (元寇, Genkō), took place in 1274 and 1281, were major military efforts undertaken by Kublai Khan of the Yuan dynasty to conquer the Japanese archipelago after the submission of the Korean kingdom of Goryeo to vassaldom."
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bruce bowser wrote:

> Gary wrote:
>> The 3 largest US Navy bases that I can think of a
>>
>> - Norfolk, Va on the east coast
>> - San Diego on the west coast
>> - Pearl Harbor on Dsi1's rock

>
> And at that, I heard they all became joint bases.
> No longer Forts, Air Force bases or Navy bases.


In the Norfolk, VB area all are still separate bases.
Fort Story - army base
Many Navy bases.
Air Force base is close but not here.







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On 3/4/2021 9:56 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>
>> Bruce wrote:
>>> Isn't there a Navy base in LA?

>>
>> If so, it wouldn't be a big one as no natural harbor there to my
>> knowledge.
>>
>> The 3 largest US Navy bases that I can think of a
>>
>> - Norfolk, Va on the east coast
>> - San Diego on the west coast
>> - Pearl Harbor on Dsi1's rock
>>
>> There are many others but I think these are the main ones now.
>> cshenk here would be a good one to ask as she's the most recently
>> retired.

>
> Those are the main ones. LA had a presence but BRAC closed it long ago.
> It's mostly now a shipping spot for cars.
>
> Lets add: Bremerton Washington, Corpus Christi TX, Groton CT, Yokosuka
> and Sasebo Japan, Okinawa (White beach), Sigonella, Bahrain.
>
> WE have significant footprints elsewhere but those probably are the
> notable ones. Oh and for Norfolk, it's multiple locations but for
> ships, primarily Norfolk, Virginia Beach, and Newport News with a
> smaller shipyard in Portsmouth.


And I lived in Newport RI (1970-71). Home of the Naval War College. They
had several ships there but no carriers. I've heard they've downsized
that base since I lived there.



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On 3/4/2021 10:32 PM, Bruce wrote:
> The Japs were a sadistic bunch.
>

All morals go to hell during a war. Some of the Jap military should
have been tried for war crimes but I guess we didn't do that because we
nuked two of their cities to end the war.

As a whole, I admire the Japanese people and their traditions.




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On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 06:25:20 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 11:12:08 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-03-04 10:04 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>> > S Viemeister wrote:

>> sure.
>> >>
>> >> One of the students at the school I used to volunteer at, was Korean.
>> >> She was horrified when she discovered that I had Japanese cousins.
>> >
>> > Japanese in WWII took Korean women back and put them in whore houses,
>> > sadly. The shame will take time to recover.

>>
>> They were pretty nasty through out Asia. In China they slaughtered
>> 300,000 civilians in Nanking alone. They used about 50,000 POWs for
>> slave labour and the death rate was about 20%. Then there were about
>> 300,000 south Asian forced labourers and their death rate was as high as
>> 50%.

>
>Bruce's one-sided history. The Mongol invasions of Japan (??, Genk?), took place in 1274 and 1281, were major military efforts undertaken by Kublai Khan of the Yuan dynasty to conquer the Japanese archipelago after the submission of the Korean kingdom of Goryeo to vassaldom."
> - Wiki


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On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 1:45:37 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 06:25:20 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 11:12:08 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2021-03-04 10:04 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> >> > S Viemeister wrote:
> >> sure.
> >> >>
> >> >> One of the students at the school I used to volunteer at, was Korean.
> >> >> She was horrified when she discovered that I had Japanese cousins.
> >> >
> >> > Japanese in WWII took Korean women back and put them in whore houses,
> >> > sadly. The shame will take time to recover.
> >>
> >> They were pretty nasty through out Asia. In China they slaughtered
> >> 300,000 civilians in Nanking alone. They used about 50,000 POWs for
> >> slave labour and the death rate was about 20%. Then there were about
> >> 300,000 south Asian forced labourers and their death rate was as high as
> >> 50%.

> >
> >Bruce's one-sided history. The Mongol invasions of Japan (??, Genk?), took place in 1274 and 1281, were major military efforts undertaken by Kublai Khan of the Yuan dynasty to conquer the Japanese archipelago after the submission of the Korean kingdom of Goryeo to vassaldom."
> > - Wiki

>
> Bruce's? I wrote nothing of the above.
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Really? Which Bruce?
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bruce bowser wrote:
> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 1:45:37 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 06:25:20 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 11:12:08 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2021-03-04 10:04 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>>>>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>>> sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One of the students at the school I used to volunteer at, was Korean.
>>>>>> She was horrified when she discovered that I had Japanese cousins.
>>>>>
>>>>> Japanese in WWII took Korean women back and put them in whore houses,
>>>>> sadly. The shame will take time to recover.
>>>>
>>>> They were pretty nasty through out Asia. In China they slaughtered
>>>> 300,000 civilians in Nanking alone. They used about 50,000 POWs for
>>>> slave labour and the death rate was about 20%. Then there were about
>>>> 300,000 south Asian forced labourers and their death rate was as high as
>>>> 50%.
>>>
>>> Bruce's one-sided history. The Mongol invasions of Japan (??, Genk?), took place in 1274 and 1281, were major military efforts undertaken by Kublai Khan of the Yuan dynasty to conquer the Japanese archipelago after the submission of the Korean kingdom of Goryeo to vassaldom."
>>> - Wiki

>>
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> Really? Which Bruce?
>


There's only one dutch master ass sniffer here.

His picture is still on cigar boxes.


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Gary wrote:

> On 3/4/2021 9:56 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Gary wrote:
> >
> >> Bruce wrote:
> > > > Isn't there a Navy base in LA?
> > >
> > > If so, it wouldn't be a big one as no natural harbor there to my
> > > knowledge.
> > >
> > > The 3 largest US Navy bases that I can think of a
> > >
> > > - Norfolk, Va on the east coast
> > > - San Diego on the west coast
> > > - Pearl Harbor on Dsi1's rock
> > >
> > > There are many others but I think these are the main ones now.
> > > cshenk here would be a good one to ask as she's the most recently
> > > retired.

> >
> > Those are the main ones. LA had a presence but BRAC closed it long
> > ago. It's mostly now a shipping spot for cars.
> >
> > Lets add: Bremerton Washington, Corpus Christi TX, Groton CT,
> > Yokosuka and Sasebo Japan, Okinawa (White beach), Sigonella,
> > Bahrain.
> >
> > WE have significant footprints elsewhere but those probably are the
> > notable ones. Oh and for Norfolk, it's multiple locations but for
> > ships, primarily Norfolk, Virginia Beach, and Newport News with a
> > smaller shipyard in Portsmouth.

>
> And I lived in Newport RI (1970-71). Home of the Naval War College.
> They had several ships there but no carriers. I've heard they've
> downsized that base since I lived there.


They are still there but I think there are no ships anymore. It's more
of a training base now.
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