On 2/27/2021 8:07 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-02-27 10:49 a.m., Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> On 2/27/2021 7:34 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2021-02-27 10:11 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 2/27/2021 4:52 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:23:33 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you disagree that our rights are being attacked ? Been to church
>>>>>> lately ? No ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Considering I haven't been to church (not to worship, anyway) since I
>>>>> outgrew religion when I was about 13, no.
>>>>>
>>>>> I assume you're talking about the temporary measures to prevent
>>>>> the spread of covid by packing 1000 people into a poorly ventilated
>>>>> space.
>>>>>
>>>>> You do know that God can hear you pray wherever you are, don't you?
>>>>> Church is not required.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Don't be silly.Â* Of course you have to go to church.Â* They pass the
>>>> collection plate and you don't want to miss that.Â* Pastor wants a new
>>>> car.
>>>
>>> It's funny that so many who call themselves Christian insist on the
>>> right to pray in public when their man man told them to pray in private.
>>>
>>> Matthew 6:5-6 €œAnd when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites.
>>> For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of
>>> the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they
>>> have their reward.
>>>
>>
>>
>> It is not the praying so much, as being able to live their entire lives
>> religiously.Â* This is why Hillary and others have tried to change
>> "Freedom of Religion" to "Freedom to Worship".Â* It is not about going
>> into your church and praying, and then having the government dictate how
>> you will live your life.
>>
>
>
>
> There is a popular mythology that the US was founded by people looking
> for religious freedom. The poor old Puritans just wanted to live their
> religion. That is a bit of a crock. The Puritans were rather radical
> Protestants who were extremely anti Catholic, and they wanted to set up
> a religious colony where everyone was expected to live and worship by
> their rules.
>
> Contemporary Christians whine about not having their religion pushed in
> schools, not having the Lord's Prayer in the morning, not having
> prayers at the beginning of meetings, games etc. That is not practicing
> their religion. It is an attempt to indoctrinate people with their
> religious mumbo jumbo
>


There are some that do that, but that is hardly the majority. Most want
to live their lives according to their beliefs, helping others as they
do so, and be allowed to do so as they have in the past.

On 2021-02-27 9:14 a.m., Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 2/27/2021 8:07 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-02-27 10:49 a.m., Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>> On 2/27/2021 7:34 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2021-02-27 10:11 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>> On 2/27/2021 4:52 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:23:33 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you disagree that our rights are being attacked ? Been to church
>>>>>>> lately ? No ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Considering I haven't been to church (not to worship, anyway) since I
>>>>>> outgrew religion when I was about 13, no.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I assume you're talking about the temporary measures to prevent
>>>>>> the spread of covid by packing 1000 people into a poorly ventilated
>>>>>> space.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You do know that God can hear you pray wherever you are, don't you?
>>>>>> Church is not required.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't be silly.Â* Of course you have to go to church.Â* They pass the
>>>>> collection plate and you don't want to miss that.Â* Pastor wants a new
>>>>> car.
>>>>
>>>> It's funny that so many who call themselves Christian insist on the
>>>> right to pray in public when their man man told them to pray in
>>>> private.
>>>>
>>>> Matthew 6:5-6 €œAnd when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites.
>>>> For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of
>>>> the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you,
>>>> they
>>>> have their reward.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It is not the praying so much, as being able to live their entire lives
>>> religiously.Â* This is why Hillary and others have tried to change
>>> "Freedom of Religion" to "Freedom to Worship".Â* It is not about going
>>> into your church and praying, and then having the government dictate how
>>> you will live your life.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> There is a popular mythology that the US was founded by people looking
>> for religious freedom. The poor old Puritans just wanted to live their
>> religion. That is a bit of a crock. The Puritans were rather radical
>> Protestants who were extremely anti Catholic, and they wanted to set up
>> a religious colony where everyone was expected to live and worship by
>> their rules.
>>
>> Contemporary Christians whine about not having their religion pushed in
>> schools, not having the Lord's Prayer in the morning,Â* not having
>> prayers at the beginning of meetings, games etc.Â* That is not practicing
>> their religion. It is an attempt to indoctrinate people with their
>> religious mumbo jumbo
>>
>
>
> There are some that do that, but that is hardly the majority.Â* Most want
> to live their lives according to their beliefs, helping others as they
> do so, and be allowed to do so as they have in the past.
>
Unfortunately it is those big-mouthed, obscenely wealthy, megachurch
scamvangelists who have the ears of many and have an outsize influence.

On 2/27/2021 8:34 AM, Graham wrote:
> On 2021-02-27 9:14 a.m., Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> On 2/27/2021 8:07 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2021-02-27 10:49 a.m., Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>> On 2/27/2021 7:34 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-02-27 10:11 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/27/2021 4:52 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:23:33 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you disagree that our rights are being attacked ? Been to church
>>>>>>>> lately ? No ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Considering I haven't been to church (not to worship, anyway) since I
>>>>>>> outgrew religion when I was about 13, no.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I assume you're talking about the temporary measures to prevent
>>>>>>> the spread of covid by packing 1000 people into a poorly ventilated
>>>>>>> space.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You do know that God can hear you pray wherever you are, don't you?
>>>>>>> Church is not required.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't be silly.Â* Of course you have to go to church.Â* They pass the
>>>>>> collection plate and you don't want to miss that.Â* Pastor wants a new
>>>>>> car.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's funny that so many who call themselves Christian insist on the
>>>>> right to pray in public when their man man told them to pray in
>>>>> private.
>>>>>
>>>>> Matthew 6:5-6 €œAnd when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites.
>>>>> For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of
>>>>> the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you,
>>>>> they
>>>>> have their reward.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is not the praying so much, as being able to live their entire lives
>>>> religiously.Â* This is why Hillary and others have tried to change
>>>> "Freedom of Religion" to "Freedom to Worship".Â* It is not about going
>>>> into your church and praying, and then having the government dictate how
>>>> you will live your life.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There is a popular mythology that the US was founded by people looking
>>> for religious freedom. The poor old Puritans just wanted to live their
>>> religion. That is a bit of a crock. The Puritans were rather radical
>>> Protestants who were extremely anti Catholic, and they wanted to set up
>>> a religious colony where everyone was expected to live and worship by
>>> their rules.
>>>
>>> Contemporary Christians whine about not having their religion pushed in
>>> schools, not having the Lord's Prayer in the morning,Â* not having
>>> prayers at the beginning of meetings, games etc.Â* That is not practicing
>>> their religion. It is an attempt to indoctrinate people with their
>>> religious mumbo jumbo
>>>
>>
>>
>> There are some that do that, but that is hardly the majority.Â* Most want
>> to live their lives according to their beliefs, helping others as they
>> do so, and be allowed to do so as they have in the past.
>>
> Unfortunately it is those big-mouthed, obscenely wealthy, megachurch
> scamvangelists who have the ears of many and have an outsize influence.
>

That seems to be always the case, no matter the issue or leaning.

On 2021-02-27 11:14 a.m., Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 2/27/2021 8:07 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

>>
>> There is a popular mythology that the US was founded by people looking
>> for religious freedom. The poor old Puritans just wanted to live their
>> religion. That is a bit of a crock. The Puritans were rather radical
>> Protestants who were extremely anti Catholic, and they wanted to set up
>> a religious colony where everyone was expected to live and worship by
>> their rules.
>>
>> Contemporary Christians whine about not having their religion pushed in
>> schools, not having the Lord's Prayer in the morning,Â* not having
>> prayers at the beginning of meetings, games etc.Â* That is not practicing
>> their religion. It is an attempt to indoctrinate people with their
>> religious mumbo jumbo
>>
>
>
> There are some that do that, but that is hardly the majority.Â* Most want
> to live their lives according to their beliefs, helping others as they
> do so, and be allowed to do so as they have in the past.




Oh yeah. We see that all the time. We see "christians" rallying against
abortion because they believe that all life is sacred. The same people
generally support capital punishment, eye for and eye, tooth for a tooth
and all that.

>

On 2021-02-27 10:56 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-02-27 11:14 a.m., Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> On 2/27/2021 8:07 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>>
>>> There is a popular mythology that the US was founded by people looking
>>> for religious freedom. The poor old Puritans just wanted to live their
>>> religion. That is a bit of a crock. The Puritans were rather radical
>>> Protestants who were extremely anti Catholic, and they wanted to set up
>>> a religious colony where everyone was expected to live and worship by
>>> their rules.
>>>
>>> Contemporary Christians whine about not having their religion pushed in
>>> schools, not having the Lord's Prayer in the morning,Â* not having
>>> prayers at the beginning of meetings, games etc.Â* That is not practicing
>>> their religion. It is an attempt to indoctrinate people with their
>>> religious mumbo jumbo
>>>
>>
>>
>> There are some that do that, but that is hardly the majority.Â* Most
>> want to live their lives according to their beliefs, helping others as
>> they do so, and be allowed to do so as they have in the past.
>
>
>
>
> Oh yeah. We see that all the time. We see "christians"Â* rallying against
> abortion because they believe that all life is sacred. The same people
> generally support capital punishment, eye for and eye, tooth for a tooth
> and all that.
>
>>
>
Of course their favourite hobby is to cherry-pick biblical texts.

Graham wrote:

> Of course their favourite hobby is to cherry-pick biblical texts.


For in the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed€”a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: €œThe righteous will live by faith.€�

Romans 1:17

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Best
Greg