On 2/26/2021 9:57 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> After her husband died, a few years later she demolished the ocean front
> property rebuilt about 4 years ago. Four bedrooms, for kids and
> grandkids. Now that we are both alone, we spend some time there
> together. She does not want to live there year round though.
>
> Taxes alone are $30k a year. You pay for the view.

That's so crazy too. You own the property yet you're charged $30K a year
for property tax. Get outta here.

Same thing with North Beach here. Property taxes are unbelievable.

On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 8:26:10 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> On 2/26/2021 9:57 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > After her husband died, a few years later she demolished the ocean front
> > property rebuilt about 4 years ago. Four bedrooms, for kids and
> > grandkids. Now that we are both alone, we spend some time there
> > together. She does not want to live there year round though.
> >
> > Taxes alone are $30k a year. You pay for the view.
> That's so crazy too. You own the property yet you're charged $30K a year
> for property tax. Get outta here.
>
> Same thing with North Beach here. Property taxes are unbelievable.

What are the property tax rates? What are the assessed values?

Ann Arbor tax rates (50.4649 mills) are higher than those outside the
city limits (40.4869 for my location). The property values are substantially
higher ($202 per square foot inside the city, compared with $87 - $162
outside the city). The result is a much higher tax bill.

That's one of several reasons I live outside the city limits.

However, everybody who pays those outrageous Ann Arbor prices
thinks it's worth it. Or they wouldn't live there.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2/27/2021 8:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 8:26:10 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> On 2/26/2021 9:57 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> After her husband died, a few years later she demolished the ocean front
>>> property rebuilt about 4 years ago. Four bedrooms, for kids and
>>> grandkids. Now that we are both alone, we spend some time there
>>> together. She does not want to live there year round though.
>>>
>>> Taxes alone are $30k a year. You pay for the view.
>> That's so crazy too. You own the property yet you're charged $30K a year
>> for property tax. Get outta here.
>>
>> Same thing with North Beach here. Property taxes are unbelievable.
>
> What are the property tax rates? What are the assessed values?
>
> Ann Arbor tax rates (50.4649 mills) are higher than those outside the
> city limits (40.4869 for my location). The property values are substantially
> higher ($202 per square foot inside the city, compared with $87 - $162
> outside the city). The result is a much higher tax bill.
>
> That's one of several reasons I live outside the city limits.
>
> However, everybody who pays those outrageous Ann Arbor prices
> thinks it's worth it. Or they wouldn't live there.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

We got our tax bill yesterday in the mail . My annual taxes this time
around are $115 and change ... that's for our property and all the
vehicles . Of course we don't have all that fancy city infrastructure to
pay for either .
--
Snag
In 1775, the British demanded we give them our guns.
We shot them

On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 10:00:54 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
> On 2/27/2021 8:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 8:26:10 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> >> On 2/26/2021 9:57 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>> After her husband died, a few years later she demolished the ocean front
> >>> property rebuilt about 4 years ago. Four bedrooms, for kids and
> >>> grandkids. Now that we are both alone, we spend some time there
> >>> together. She does not want to live there year round though.
> >>>
> >>> Taxes alone are $30k a year. You pay for the view.
> >> That's so crazy too. You own the property yet you're charged $30K a year
> >> for property tax. Get outta here.
> >>
> >> Same thing with North Beach here. Property taxes are unbelievable.
> >
> > What are the property tax rates? What are the assessed values?
> >
> > Ann Arbor tax rates (50.4649 mills) are higher than those outside the
> > city limits (40.4869 for my location). The property values are substantially
> > higher ($202 per square foot inside the city, compared with $87 - $162
> > outside the city). The result is a much higher tax bill.
> >
> > That's one of several reasons I live outside the city limits.
> >
> > However, everybody who pays those outrageous Ann Arbor prices
> > thinks it's worth it. Or they wouldn't live there.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> We got our tax bill yesterday in the mail . My annual taxes this time
> around are $115 and change ... that's for our property and all the
> vehicles . Of course we don't have all that fancy city infrastructure to
> pay for either .

It costs a bunch to plow and salt the roads multiple times a year
up here. I just paid my winter tax bill: $1514 and change. We don't
have personal property taxes on cars, but the registration fees amount
to a tax. Those are due on one's birthday (what a nice present). Ours
are more than $100 for each car.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2/27/2021 9:25 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 10:00:54 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>> On 2/27/2021 8:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 8:26:10 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>>>> On 2/26/2021 9:57 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>> After her husband died, a few years later she demolished the ocean front
>>>>> property rebuilt about 4 years ago. Four bedrooms, for kids and
>>>>> grandkids. Now that we are both alone, we spend some time there
>>>>> together. She does not want to live there year round though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Taxes alone are $30k a year. You pay for the view.
>>>> That's so crazy too. You own the property yet you're charged $30K a year
>>>> for property tax. Get outta here.
>>>>
>>>> Same thing with North Beach here. Property taxes are unbelievable.
>>>
>>> What are the property tax rates? What are the assessed values?
>>>
>>> Ann Arbor tax rates (50.4649 mills) are higher than those outside the
>>> city limits (40.4869 for my location). The property values are substantially
>>> higher ($202 per square foot inside the city, compared with $87 - $162
>>> outside the city). The result is a much higher tax bill.
>>>
>>> That's one of several reasons I live outside the city limits.
>>>
>>> However, everybody who pays those outrageous Ann Arbor prices
>>> thinks it's worth it. Or they wouldn't live there.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> We got our tax bill yesterday in the mail . My annual taxes this time
>> around are $115 and change ... that's for our property and all the
>> vehicles . Of course we don't have all that fancy city infrastructure to
>> pay for either .
>
> It costs a bunch to plow and salt the roads multiple times a year
> up here. I just paid my winter tax bill: $1514 and change. We don't
> have personal property taxes on cars, but the registration fees amount
> to a tax. Those are due on one's birthday (what a nice present). Ours
> are more than $100 for each car.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Our vehicle tags are cheap too . The most expensive one is the tag on
the Harley trike . It's like 9 bucks a year . Trailers get a forever tag
, my truck and the other Harley have antique tags which are also
"forever" , and the SUV wears a veterans tag . Rural Arkansas ain't
perfect , but it's a lot closer than anywhere I've lived in the past -
from my perspective , of course .
--
Snag
In 1775, the British demanded we give them our guns.
We shot them

On Sunday, February 28, 2021 at 8:13:58 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
> On 2/27/2021 9:25 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 10:00:54 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
> >> On 2/27/2021 8:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 8:26:10 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> >>>> On 2/26/2021 9:57 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>>> After her husband died, a few years later she demolished the ocean front
> >>>>> property rebuilt about 4 years ago. Four bedrooms, for kids and
> >>>>> grandkids. Now that we are both alone, we spend some time there
> >>>>> together. She does not want to live there year round though.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Taxes alone are $30k a year. You pay for the view.
> >>>> That's so crazy too. You own the property yet you're charged $30K a year
> >>>> for property tax. Get outta here.
> >>>>
> >>>> Same thing with North Beach here. Property taxes are unbelievable.
> >>>
> >>> What are the property tax rates? What are the assessed values?
> >>>
> >>> Ann Arbor tax rates (50.4649 mills) are higher than those outside the
> >>> city limits (40.4869 for my location). The property values are substantially
> >>> higher ($202 per square foot inside the city, compared with $87 - $162
> >>> outside the city). The result is a much higher tax bill.
> >>>
> >>> That's one of several reasons I live outside the city limits.
> >>>
> >>> However, everybody who pays those outrageous Ann Arbor prices
> >>> thinks it's worth it. Or they wouldn't live there.
> >>>
> >>> Cindy Hamilton
> >>>
> >> We got our tax bill yesterday in the mail . My annual taxes this time
> >> around are $115 and change ... that's for our property and all the
> >> vehicles . Of course we don't have all that fancy city infrastructure to
> >> pay for either .
> >
> > It costs a bunch to plow and salt the roads multiple times a year
> > up here. I just paid my winter tax bill: $1514 and change. We don't
> > have personal property taxes on cars, but the registration fees amount
> > to a tax. Those are due on one's birthday (what a nice present). Ours
> > are more than $100 for each car.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> Our vehicle tags are cheap too . The most expensive one is the tag on
> the Harley trike . It's like 9 bucks a year . Trailers get a forever tag
> , my truck and the other Harley have antique tags which are also
> "forever" , and the SUV wears a veterans tag . Rural Arkansas ain't
> perfect , but it's a lot closer than anywhere I've lived in the past -
> from my perspective , of course .

Yes, our tags are expensive. But that's the only tax on cars that we have.
I see that your $115 includes taxes on vehicles.

I'm glad you enjoy rural Arkansas. I enjoy exurban Michigan.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sunday, February 28, 2021 at 9:22:34 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, February 28, 2021 at 8:13:58 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
> > On 2/27/2021 9:25 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 10:00:54 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
> > >> On 2/27/2021 8:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >>> On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 8:26:10 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > >>>> On 2/26/2021 9:57 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > >>>>> After her husband died, a few years later she demolished the ocean front
> > >>>>> property rebuilt about 4 years ago. Four bedrooms, for kids and
> > >>>>> grandkids. Now that we are both alone, we spend some time there
> > >>>>> together. She does not want to live there year round though.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Taxes alone are $30k a year. You pay for the view.
> > >>>> That's so crazy too. You own the property yet you're charged $30K a year
> > >>>> for property tax. Get outta here.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Same thing with North Beach here. Property taxes are unbelievable.
> > >>>
> > >>> What are the property tax rates? What are the assessed values?
> > >>>
> > >>> Ann Arbor tax rates (50.4649 mills) are higher than those outside the
> > >>> city limits (40.4869 for my location). The property values are substantially
> > >>> higher ($202 per square foot inside the city, compared with $87 - $162
> > >>> outside the city). The result is a much higher tax bill.
> > >>>
> > >>> That's one of several reasons I live outside the city limits.
> > >>>
> > >>> However, everybody who pays those outrageous Ann Arbor prices
> > >>> thinks it's worth it. Or they wouldn't live there.
> > >>>
> > >>> Cindy Hamilton
> > >>>
> > >> We got our tax bill yesterday in the mail . My annual taxes this time
> > >> around are $115 and change ... that's for our property and all the
> > >> vehicles . Of course we don't have all that fancy city infrastructure to
> > >> pay for either .
> > >
> > > It costs a bunch to plow and salt the roads multiple times a year
> > > up here. I just paid my winter tax bill: $1514 and change. We don't
> > > have personal property taxes on cars, but the registration fees amount
> > > to a tax. Those are due on one's birthday (what a nice present). Ours
> > > are more than $100 for each car.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> > >
> > Our vehicle tags are cheap too . The most expensive one is the tag on
> > the Harley trike . It's like 9 bucks a year . Trailers get a forever tag
> > , my truck and the other Harley have antique tags which are also
> > "forever" , and the SUV wears a veterans tag . Rural Arkansas ain't
> > perfect , but it's a lot closer than anywhere I've lived in the past -
> > from my perspective , of course .
> Yes, our tags are expensive. But that's the only tax on cars that we have.
> I see that your $115 includes taxes on vehicles.
>
> I'm glad you enjoy rural Arkansas. I enjoy exurban Michigan.

Exurban? What does that mean? Gobs and gobs of ex's all living in the same area? Ha! Ha! Ha!

On 2/27/2021 9:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 8:26:10 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> On 2/26/2021 9:57 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> After her husband died, a few years later she demolished the ocean front
>>> property rebuilt about 4 years ago. Four bedrooms, for kids and
>>> grandkids. Now that we are both alone, we spend some time there
>>> together. She does not want to live there year round though.
>>>
>>> Taxes alone are $30k a year. You pay for the view.
>> That's so crazy too. You own the property yet you're charged $30K a year
>> for property tax. Get outta here.
>>
>> Same thing with North Beach here. Property taxes are unbelievable.
>
> What are the property tax rates? What are the assessed values?
>
> Ann Arbor tax rates (50.4649 mills) are higher than those outside the
> city limits (40.4869 for my location). The property values are substantially
> higher ($202 per square foot inside the city, compared with $87 - $162
> outside the city). The result is a much higher tax bill.
>
> That's one of several reasons I live outside the city limits.
>
> However, everybody who pays those outrageous Ann Arbor prices
> thinks it's worth it. Or they wouldn't live there.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
No idea of the rate but the property value is north of $2.5 Million. It
is a very nice 2200 sq. ft. Did I mention the elevator?