On 2021-02-17 11:30 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 13:00:13 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2021-02-17 11:57 a.m., Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:15:45 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>
>>>> Ours came with a back-up camera. It spent all of yesterday covered
>>>> with snow kicked up from the road.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> Really don't need a rear camera unless you're backing up. For driving
>>> straight ahead there's no need to see where you've been.
>>>
>>
>> Back up cameras are handy when you back into a parking space and you can
>> see how much room you have. It's handy when someone behind has parked
>> really badly and is sticking a foot or more into your space. You can get
>> back to within in an inch or two and ensure that you have room ahead to
>> get out.
>
> My cars have front, back, a bit of the sides in those areas, and
> overhead views. Took me a few months to trust the cameras, but I adore
> them now.
>
With age, I don't have the flexibility that I once had to twist around
to look through the rear window when reversing. The camera overcomes that.

On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 12:42:30 -0700, Graham > wrote:

>On 2021-02-17 11:30 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 13:00:13 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2021-02-17 11:57 a.m., Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:15:45 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>>>> Ours came with a back-up camera. It spent all of yesterday covered
>>>>> with snow kicked up from the road.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>> Really don't need a rear camera unless you're backing up. For driving
>>>> straight ahead there's no need to see where you've been.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Back up cameras are handy when you back into a parking space and you can
>>> see how much room you have. It's handy when someone behind has parked
>>> really badly and is sticking a foot or more into your space. You can get
>>> back to within in an inch or two and ensure that you have room ahead to
>>> get out.
>>
>> My cars have front, back, a bit of the sides in those areas, and
>> overhead views. Took me a few months to trust the cameras, but I adore
>> them now.
>>
>With age, I don't have the flexibility that I once had to twist around
>to look through the rear window when reversing. The camera overcomes that.

Another advantage.

On 2021-02-17 2:42 p.m., Graham wrote:
> On 2021-02-17 11:30 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 13:00:13 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2021-02-17 11:57 a.m., Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:15:45 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton

>> My cars have front, back, a bit of the sides in those areas,Â* and
>> overhead views. Took me a few months to trust the cameras, but I adore
>> them now.
>>
> With age, I don't have the flexibility that I once had to twist around
> to look through the rear window when reversing. The camera overcomes that.



Perhaps it is something older drivers need to work out. Drivers' crash
rates increase as they age, and one of the most prevalent crash
locations is intersections because they don't look. A lot of that is
because of loss of flexibility. I noticed myself turning my head less
and made a point of exercising my neck, turning to the left and to the
right.

My CRV (2013)has a back up camera and I was never terribly impressed
with it. It is not all that clear. Having been in some newer and higher
end cars with I can see them being a lot more useful. People should
still be capable of backing up with out one. One of my concerns is that
if people become too reliant on backup cameras they will stop looking
around and using their eyes.

Dave Smith wrote:

> Graham wrote:
>> With age, I don't have the flexibility that I once had to twist around
>> to look through the rear window when reversing. The camera overcomes
>> that.

> Perhaps it is something older drivers need to work out.

IMO, that's the time for older drivers to quit driving.

On 2021-02-18 8:56 a.m., Gary wrote:
> Â*Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> Graham wrote:
>>> With age, I don't have the flexibility that I once had to twist around
>>> to look through the rear window when reversing. The camera overcomes
>>> that.
>
>> Perhaps it is something older drivers need to work out.
>
> IMO, that's the time for older drivers to quit driving.
>
>

I did a short stint as a driver examiner back when drivers over 80 and
those over 70 who had had an accident had to do a road test every year.
We left Wednesday mornings for seniors road tests. I very quickly
learned to hate Wednesdays. You would hope that 65 years of driving
would mean they knew how to drive. In reality, it was the result of 65
years of learning bad driving habits.