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What do you think of this log splitter?
On 11/30/2020 8:44 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> cshenk wrote: >> Snag wrote: >> >>> On 11/29/2020 3:53 PM, cshenk wrote: >>>> Snag wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 11/28/2020 5:23 PM, Dave Smith wrote: >>>>>> On 2020-11-28 5:33 p.m., cshenk wrote: >>>>>>> Dave Smith wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2020-11-28 4:34 p.m., cshenk wrote: >>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MT3S2CK/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I KNOW there are massive units that Sheldon will claim are >>>>>>>>> all you can use and he has 5 of them or something. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now for real people with smaller needs?ﾃつ* I am over >>>>>>>>> Pnematics at this stage of our lives. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My old neighbour had one similar to that. He loaned it to me >>>>>>>> when I had that huge branch fall on my house. It was more >>>>>>>> like tree size. It could not handle the 18" pieces, but it >>>>>>>> sure was handy for anything you would get in a load of >>>>>>>> unsplit firewood.ﾃつ* Word of caution... use a heavy duty >>>>>>>> extension cord or you will be burning out the motor or >>>>>>>> blowing fuses. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks!ﾃつ* Our needs are more to the splitting down a bit >>>>>>> more.ﾃつ* By 18" do you mean long or wide? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 18" diameter. That would be about the limit and, of course, >>>>>> depends onﾂ* the type of wood. Some wood splits more easily than >>>>>> other wood.ﾂ* With theﾂ* big and newer wood you might have to >>>>>> start near the side rather thanﾂ* going straight down the middle >>>>>> right off the bat. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sounds like you've been there ... IMO that splitter would be fine >>>>> for someone who wants a small stockpile of firewood for emergency >>>>> use or someone who has a fireplace that they burn for esthetics . >>>>> If I were splitting for a main source of heat , I'd want >>>>> something bigger and gas powered. >>>> >>>> Not trying to split 18 cords for a winter, Snag! This is more a >>>> weekend augment to the heat (weekdays depend but with working from >>>> home still, hard to say what will happen this year).ﾂ* At roughly 4 >>>> logs a minute if both Don and I are working it, a 1/2 hour probably >>>> covers us (plus some) for a weekend.ﾂ* MOst doesn't need >>>> re-splitting at all. >>>> >>>>> As Dave said , use a heavy cord , minimum 12 ga but 10 >>>>> would be better . You'll also want to do your back a favor and put >>>>> that thing up on a platform of some type . From what I've read and >>>> >>>> No really good way to do that here but I'll keep it in mind if I >>>> find something stable and level enough for it. >>>> >>>>> seen on the 'net , one of the biggest complaints is that these >>>>> electrics need both hands to operate. Makes it a bit difficult to >>>>> balance a big piece on the beam while splitting it. >>>> >>>> Watch the review please.ﾂ* Hands off sort. Log fits between the bars. >>>> 10 inch max width of log but we rarely have wider and if we do, we >>>> could do that with the Pneumatic. >>>> >>>>> Mine's a 12 ton >>>>> horizontal with a 196CC gas engine . It does pretty good , but >>>>> gnarly grain in a big piece will have me cutting the chunks down >>>>> with a chainsaw - I've split up to 24" diameter pieces with >>>>> straight grain with no problems . I currently have about 4 cords >>>>> of oak (red and white) and half a cord of hickory split and >>>>> stacked , and plan to cut that much more this winter . I like >>>>> being warm ... and I'm trying to get a year ahead , well seasoned >>>>> wood burns better with more heat and less creosote. >>>> >>>> Agreed and love your wood pile!ﾂ* That might be 10 years worth for us >>>> here! >>>> >>>> I have 6 8' racks and a 16' rack.ﾂ* I gave away a 4' rack to another >>>> who really needed it for a wood stove (he has no other heat). >>>> >>>> These are single layer so if doubled (we plan to do that as they >>>> empty and zip-tie them together), that seems 1/2 cord right?ﾂ* So >>>> 1.5 cords (and we always have some leftover that doesn't fit when >>>> we get a load which was why the single 4' rack) >>>> >>>> We aren't real specific on 'cords' down here.ﾂ* It's more often sold >>>> by truck size.ﾂ* The 2-ton truck load is what we normally get and we >>>> know what it fills.ﾂ* No one gets antsy about exactly how much rack >>>> fillage there is. >>>> >>>> The fellow I use has a decent proption of what I call 'Banker >>>> Logs'.ﾂ* I don't know what another would call them but they are the >>>> larger parts, very useful once it's going really well but alone are >>>> too big to burn correctly without smaller ones around it.ﾂ* I'd say >>>> 1 in 10 are that but it's 2 more or so than desired?ﾂ* Hence other >>>> than helping others cut wood, our needs here will be small. >>>> >>> >>> My wood lot for firewood stacks is used steel roofing pieces 10 and >>> 12 feet long . Total area is about 30 x 10/12 feet . I figure 20" >>> lengths of wood in a stack 10 feet long and 4 1/2 feet high is about >>> 2/3 of a cord , 12 foot stacks are about 3/4 cord . I started this >>> year to leave a space for circulation between rows , it helps quite a >>> bit to dry it quicker . What your supplier calls banker logs are what >>> we call overnighters , I like to put a couple of big pieces in just >>> before I go to bed . There's usually still a pretty good fire when I >>> get up in the morning . I split my wood into a range of sizes >>> starting about 2x4 size because you just don't always need a big fire >>> . Warm (above 50ﾃつｰF) days call for a fire of smaller pieces . Colder >>> nights (like tonight , predicted low is 27ﾃつｰF) call for some bigger >>> wood , and sometimes an early-morning replenishment . >> >> Makes sense!ﾂ* Obviously I use less.ﾂ* Overnighters then (grin).ﾂ* Same I >> think.ﾂ* For the rest, banking the fire so you can stir it up fast in >> the morning. >> >> 2x4 size is good for starter wood too since we don't burn 24x7 here. >> Mostly we want what would equate to 4x4 or 4x6 sizes.ﾂ* The bankers / >> overnighters are more like a 10x7 and there are the rare larger ones. >> > > I used to get ends cut from railroad ties at a sawmill (not treated of > course). Hard to get them started burning though, Had to have a pretty > good fire going before putting them in. > > We have a thriving cross-tie business up here , probably a couple dozen small sawmills withing 50 miles and several of them sell those end cuts . Around here you can get a front-loader bucket full for 10-20 bucks . That's about half a cord or so - I haven't bought any of that stuff but I think it would fill my 5x8 utility trailer heaping full . Some of the mills also sell bundles of "slash" , those pieces they slab off to square up the logs . That can be some pretty nice pieces depending on the size of logs they're starting with . Usually comes in like 8 foot plus lengths so you can cut it to fit your stove . -- Snag Illegitimi non carborundum |
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Snag wrote:
> On 11/30/2020 8:44 PM, Hank Rogers wrote: >> cshenk wrote: >>> Snag wrote: >>> >>>> On 11/29/2020 3:53 PM, cshenk wrote: >>>>> Snag wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 11/28/2020 5:23 PM, Dave Smith wrote: >>>>>>> On 2020-11-28 5:33 p.m., cshenk wrote: >>>>>>>> Dave Smith wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2020-11-28 4:34 p.m., cshenk wrote: >>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MT3S2CK/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I KNOW there are massive units that Sheldon will claim are >>>>>>>>>> all you can use and he has 5 of them or something. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Now for real people with smaller needs?ﾃつ* I am over >>>>>>>>>> Pnematics at this stage of our lives. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My old neighbour had one similar to that. He loaned it to me >>>>>>>>> when I had that huge branch fall on my house. It was more >>>>>>>>> like tree size. It could not handle the 18" pieces, but it >>>>>>>>> sure was handy for anything you would get in a load of >>>>>>>>> unsplit firewood.ﾃつ* Word of caution... use a heavy duty >>>>>>>>> extension cord or you will be burning out the motor or >>>>>>>>> blowing fuses. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks!ﾃつ* Our needs are more to the splitting down a bit >>>>>>>> more.ﾃつ* By 18" do you mean long or wide? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 18" diameter. That would be about the limit and, of course, >>>>>>> depends onﾂ* the type of wood. Some wood splits more easily >>>>>>> than >>>>>>> other wood.ﾂ* With theﾂ* big and newer wood you might have to >>>>>>> start near the side rather thanﾂ* going straight down the >>>>>>> middle >>>>>>> right off the bat. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sounds like you've been there ... IMO that splitter would be >>>>>> fine >>>>>> for someone who wants a small stockpile of firewood for >>>>>> emergency >>>>>> use or someone who has a fireplace that they burn for >>>>>> esthetics . >>>>>> If I were splitting for a main source of heat , I'd want >>>>>> something bigger and gas powered. >>>>> >>>>> Not trying to split 18 cords for a winter, Snag! This is more a >>>>> weekend augment to the heat (weekdays depend but with working >>>>> from >>>>> home still, hard to say what will happen this year).ﾂ* At >>>>> roughly 4 >>>>> logs a minute if both Don and I are working it, a 1/2 hour >>>>> probably >>>>> covers us (plus some) for a weekend.ﾂ* MOst doesn't need >>>>> re-splitting at all. >>>>> >>>>>> As Dave said , use a heavy cord , minimum 12 ga but 10 >>>>>> would be better . You'll also want to do your back a favor >>>>>> and put >>>>>> that thing up on a platform of some type . From what I've >>>>>> read and >>>>> >>>>> No really good way to do that here but I'll keep it in mind if I >>>>> find something stable and level enough for it. >>>>> >>>>>> seen on the 'net , one of the biggest complaints is that these >>>>>> electrics need both hands to operate. Makes it a bit >>>>>> difficult to >>>>>> balance a big piece on the beam while splitting it. >>>>> >>>>> Watch the review please.ﾂ* Hands off sort. Log fits between >>>>> the bars. >>>>> 10 inch max width of log but we rarely have wider and if we >>>>> do, we >>>>> could do that with the Pneumatic. >>>>> >>>>>> Mine's a 12 ton >>>>>> horizontal with a 196CC gas engine . It does pretty good , but >>>>>> gnarly grain in a big piece will have me cutting the chunks down >>>>>> with a chainsaw - I've split up to 24" diameter pieces with >>>>>> straight grain with no problems . I currently have about 4 cords >>>>>> of oak (red and white) and half a cord of hickory split and >>>>>> stacked , and plan to cut that much more this winter . I like >>>>>> being warm ... and I'm trying to get a year ahead , well >>>>>> seasoned >>>>>> wood burns better with more heat and less creosote. >>>>> >>>>> Agreed and love your wood pile!ﾂ* That might be 10 years worth >>>>> for us >>>>> here! >>>>> >>>>> I have 6 8' racks and a 16' rack.ﾂ* I gave away a 4' rack to >>>>> another >>>>> who really needed it for a wood stove (he has no other heat). >>>>> >>>>> These are single layer so if doubled (we plan to do that as they >>>>> empty and zip-tie them together), that seems 1/2 cord right?ﾂ* So >>>>> 1.5 cords (and we always have some leftover that doesn't fit when >>>>> we get a load which was why the single 4' rack) >>>>> >>>>> We aren't real specific on 'cords' down here.ﾂ* It's more >>>>> often sold >>>>> by truck size.ﾂ* The 2-ton truck load is what we normally get >>>>> and we >>>>> know what it fills.ﾂ* No one gets antsy about exactly how much >>>>> rack >>>>> fillage there is. >>>>> >>>>> The fellow I use has a decent proption of what I call 'Banker >>>>> Logs'.ﾂ* I don't know what another would call them but they >>>>> are the >>>>> larger parts, very useful once it's going really well but >>>>> alone are >>>>> too big to burn correctly without smaller ones around it.ﾂ >>>>> I'd say >>>>> 1 in 10 are that but it's 2 more or so than desired?ﾂ* Hence >>>>> other >>>>> than helping others cut wood, our needs here will be small. >>>>> >>>> >>>> My wood lot for firewood stacks is used steel roofing pieces 10 >>>> and >>>> 12 feet long . Total area is about 30 x 10/12 feet . I figure 20" >>>> lengths of wood in a stack 10 feet long and 4 1/2 feet high is >>>> about >>>> 2/3 of a cord , 12 foot stacks are about 3/4 cord . I started this >>>> year to leave a space for circulation between rows , it helps >>>> quite a >>>> bit to dry it quicker . What your supplier calls banker logs >>>> are what >>>> we call overnighters , I like to put a couple of big pieces in >>>> just >>>> before I go to bed . There's usually still a pretty good fire >>>> when I >>>> get up in the morning . I split my wood into a range of sizes >>>> starting about 2x4 size because you just don't always need a >>>> big fire >>>> . Warm (above 50ﾃつｰF) days call for a fire of smaller pieces . >>>> Colder >>>> nights (like tonight , predicted low is 27ﾃつｰF) call for some >>>> bigger >>>> wood , and sometimes an early-morning replenishment . >>> >>> Makes sense!ﾂ* Obviously I use less.ﾂ* Overnighters then >>> (grin).ﾂ* Same I >>> think.ﾂ* For the rest, banking the fire so you can stir it up >>> fast in >>> the morning. >>> >>> 2x4 size is good for starter wood too since we don't burn 24x7 >>> here. >>> Mostly we want what would equate to 4x4 or 4x6 sizes.ﾂ* The >>> bankers / >>> overnighters are more like a 10x7 and there are the rare larger >>> ones. >>> >> >> I used to get ends cut from railroad ties at a sawmill (not >> treated of course). Hard to get them started burning though, Had >> to have a pretty good fire going before putting them in. >> >> > > * We have a thriving cross-tie business up here , probably a > couple dozen small sawmills withing 50 miles and several of them > sell those end cuts . Around here you can get a front-loader bucket > full for 10-20 bucks . That's about half a cord or so - I haven't > bought any of that stuff but I think it would fill my 5x8 utility > trailer heaping full . Some of the mills also sell bundles of > "slash" , those pieces they slab off to square up the logs . That > can be some pretty nice pieces depending on the size of logs > they're starting with . Usually comes in like 8 foot plus lengths > so you can cut it to fit your stove . I used to burn mostly those slabs. The closest mill (4 mi.) gave them free, but it's a lot of work picking decent ones from the pile and loading them in the truck, not to mention cutting them to length. I think they sold the cross tie ends for about $10 for all you could put in an 8' pickup bed, but had to load them yourself. I got to damn old to do it, but that was my only heat for many years. |
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On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 1:34:20 PM UTC-8, cshenk wrote:
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MT3S2CK/ > > I KNOW there are massive units that Sheldon will claim are all you can > use and he has 5 of them or something. > > Now for real people with smaller needs? I am over Pnematics at this > stage of our lives. Carol-- this unit is AWESOME! I looked at it after you posted this up, and ordered one for us. Just tried it out this afternoon and extremely pleased. |
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Tania Hoffman wrote:
> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 1:34:20 PM UTC-8, cshenk wrote: >> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MT3S2CK/ >> >> I KNOW there are massive units that Sheldon will claim are all you can >> use and he has 5 of them or something. >> >> Now for real people with smaller needs? I am over Pnematics at this >> stage of our lives. > Carol-- this unit is AWESOME! I looked at it after you posted this up, and ordered one for us. Just tried it out this afternoon and extremely pleased. > Hahaha ... Not everyone needs Popeye sized stuff! It will probably do just fine as long as you don't try to log a bunch of Sequoya trees. |
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Tania Hoffman wrote:
> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 1:34:20 PM UTC-8, cshenk wrote: > > https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MT3S2CK/ > > > > I KNOW there are massive units that Sheldon will claim are all you > > can use and he has 5 of them or something. > > > > Now for real people with smaller needs? I am over Pnematics at this > > stage of our lives. > Carol-- this unit is AWESOME! I looked at it after you posted this > up, and ordered one for us. Just tried it out this afternoon and > extremely pleased. Ours came in but waiting for Xmas to use it (unless we hit a need earlier). It;s the right size for our needs. We aren't trying to split 4 cords at a shot. |
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