On 11/30/2020 8:44 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> cshenk wrote:
>> Snag wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/29/2020 3:53 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>> Snag wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/28/2020 5:23 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> On 2020-11-28 5:33 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2020-11-28 4:34 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MT3S2CK/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I KNOW there are massive units that Sheldon will claim are
>>>>>>>>> all you can use and he has 5 of them or something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now for real people with smaller needs?ﾃつ* I am over
>>>>>>>>> Pnematics at this stage of our lives.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My old neighbour had one similar to that. He loaned it to me
>>>>>>>> when I had that huge branch fall on my house. It was more
>>>>>>>> like tree size. It could not handle the 18" pieces, but it
>>>>>>>> sure was handy for anything you would get in a load of
>>>>>>>> unsplit firewood.ﾃつ* Word of caution... use a heavy duty
>>>>>>>> extension cord or you will be burning out the motor or
>>>>>>>> blowing fuses.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!ﾃつ* Our needs are more to the splitting down a bit
>>>>>>> more.ﾃつ* By 18" do you mean long or wide?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 18" diameter. That would be about the limit and, of course,
>>>>>> depends onﾂ* the type of wood. Some wood splits more easily than
>>>>>> other wood.ﾂ* With theﾂ* big and newer wood you might have to
>>>>>> start near the side rather thanﾂ* going straight down the middle
>>>>>> right off the bat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like you've been there ... IMO that splitter would be fine
>>>>> for someone who wants a small stockpile of firewood for emergency
>>>>> use or someone who has a fireplace that they burn for esthetics .
>>>>> If I were splitting for a main source of heat , I'd want
>>>>> something bigger and gas powered.
>>>>
>>>> Not trying to split 18 cords for a winter, Snag! This is more a
>>>> weekend augment to the heat (weekdays depend but with working from
>>>> home still, hard to say what will happen this year).ﾂ* At roughly 4
>>>> logs a minute if both Don and I are working it, a 1/2 hour probably
>>>> covers us (plus some) for a weekend.ﾂ* MOst doesn't need
>>>> re-splitting at all.
>>>>
>>>>> As Dave said , use a heavy cord , minimum 12 ga but 10
>>>>> would be better . You'll also want to do your back a favor and put
>>>>> that thing up on a platform of some type . From what I've read and
>>>>
>>>> No really good way to do that here but I'll keep it in mind if I
>>>> find something stable and level enough for it.
>>>>
>>>>> seen on the 'net , one of the biggest complaints is that these
>>>>> electrics need both hands to operate. Makes it a bit difficult to
>>>>> balance a big piece on the beam while splitting it.
>>>>
>>>> Watch the review please.ﾂ* Hands off sort. Log fits between the bars.
>>>> 10 inch max width of log but we rarely have wider and if we do, we
>>>> could do that with the Pneumatic.
>>>>
>>>>> Mine's a 12 ton
>>>>> horizontal with a 196CC gas engine . It does pretty good , but
>>>>> gnarly grain in a big piece will have me cutting the chunks down
>>>>> with a chainsaw - I've split up to 24" diameter pieces with
>>>>> straight grain with no problems . I currently have about 4 cords
>>>>> of oak (red and white) and half a cord of hickory split and
>>>>> stacked , and plan to cut that much more this winter . I like
>>>>> being warm ... and I'm trying to get a year ahead , well seasoned
>>>>> wood burns better with more heat and less creosote.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed and love your wood pile!ﾂ* That might be 10 years worth for us
>>>> here!
>>>>
>>>> I have 6 8' racks and a 16' rack.ﾂ* I gave away a 4' rack to another
>>>> who really needed it for a wood stove (he has no other heat).
>>>>
>>>> These are single layer so if doubled (we plan to do that as they
>>>> empty and zip-tie them together), that seems 1/2 cord right?ﾂ* So
>>>> 1.5 cords (and we always have some leftover that doesn't fit when
>>>> we get a load which was why the single 4' rack)
>>>>
>>>> We aren't real specific on 'cords' down here.ﾂ* It's more often sold
>>>> by truck size.ﾂ* The 2-ton truck load is what we normally get and we
>>>> know what it fills.ﾂ* No one gets antsy about exactly how much rack
>>>> fillage there is.
>>>>
>>>> The fellow I use has a decent proption of what I call 'Banker
>>>> Logs'.ﾂ* I don't know what another would call them but they are the
>>>> larger parts, very useful once it's going really well but alone are
>>>> too big to burn correctly without smaller ones around it.ﾂ* I'd say
>>>> 1 in 10 are that but it's 2 more or so than desired?ﾂ* Hence other
>>>> than helping others cut wood, our needs here will be small.
>>>>
>>>
>>> My wood lot for firewood stacks is used steel roofing pieces 10 and
>>> 12 feet long . Total area is about 30 x 10/12 feet . I figure 20"
>>> lengths of wood in a stack 10 feet long and 4 1/2 feet high is about
>>> 2/3 of a cord , 12 foot stacks are about 3/4 cord . I started this
>>> year to leave a space for circulation between rows , it helps quite a
>>> bit to dry it quicker . What your supplier calls banker logs are what
>>> we call overnighters , I like to put a couple of big pieces in just
>>> before I go to bed . There's usually still a pretty good fire when I
>>> get up in the morning . I split my wood into a range of sizes
>>> starting about 2x4 size because you just don't always need a big fire
>>> . Warm (above 50ﾃつｰF) days call for a fire of smaller pieces . Colder
>>> nights (like tonight , predicted low is 27ﾃつｰF) call for some bigger
>>> wood , and sometimes an early-morning replenishment .
>>
>> Makes sense!ﾂ* Obviously I use less.ﾂ* Overnighters then (grin).ﾂ* Same I
>> think.ﾂ* For the rest, banking the fire so you can stir it up fast in
>> the morning.
>>
>> 2x4 size is good for starter wood too since we don't burn 24x7 here.
>> Mostly we want what would equate to 4x4 or 4x6 sizes.ﾂ* The bankers /
>> overnighters are more like a 10x7 and there are the rare larger ones.
>>
>
> I used to get ends cut from railroad ties at a sawmill (not treated of
> course). Hard to get them started burning though, Had to have a pretty
> good fire going before putting them in.
>
>
We have a thriving cross-tie business up here , probably a couple
dozen small sawmills withing 50 miles and several of them sell those end
cuts . Around here you can get a front-loader bucket full for 10-20
bucks . That's about half a cord or so - I haven't bought any of that
stuff but I think it would fill my 5x8 utility trailer heaping full .
Some of the mills also sell bundles of "slash" , those pieces they slab
off to square up the logs . That can be some pretty nice pieces
depending on the size of logs they're starting with . Usually comes in
like 8 foot plus lengths so you can cut it to fit your stove .
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