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![]() I just ordered my complete cooked Thanksgiving dinner from Albertsons. The cost is about what it would be to order all the parts and pieces and then still have to cook. I just can't/don't want to cook all that stuff anymore. It's too hard on me. So, problem solved. I'll be getting a 12 pound roasted turkey, dressing, mashed potatoes, gravy and cranberry sauce. We will have leftovers but that is fine. Janet US |
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On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 4:22:02 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> I just ordered my complete cooked Thanksgiving dinner from Albertsons. > The cost is about what it would be to order all the parts and pieces > and then still have to cook. I just can't/don't want to cook all that > stuff anymore. It's too hard on me. So, problem solved. > I'll be getting a 12 pound roasted turkey, dressing, mashed potatoes, > gravy and cranberry sauce. We will have leftovers but that is fine. > Janet US Good for you. I'm not sure precisely what we're doing for Thanksgiving. I'm sure some sort of turkey will be involved. We don't bother with a lot of sides. Turkey, dressing, gravy, tossed salad. Done. Cindy Hamilton |
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 4:22:02 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >> I just ordered my complete cooked Thanksgiving dinner from Albertsons. >> The cost is about what it would be to order all the parts and pieces >> and then still have to cook. I just can't/don't want to cook all that >> stuff anymore. It's too hard on me. So, problem solved. >> I'll be getting a 12 pound roasted turkey, dressing, mashed potatoes, >> gravy and cranberry sauce. We will have leftovers but that is fine. >> Janet US > > Good for you. > > I'm not sure precisely what we're doing for Thanksgiving. I'm sure some > sort of turkey will be involved. > > We don't bother with a lot of sides. Turkey, dressing, gravy, tossed salad. Done. > > Cindy Hamilton > It's cool to buy thanksgiving dinner from a store. But make sure it is a genuine kosher jewish deli, or yoose may burn in hell. |
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >I just ordered my complete cooked Thanksgiving dinner from Albertsons. >The cost is about what it would be to order all the parts and pieces >and then still have to cook. I just can't/don't want to cook all that >stuff anymore. It's too hard on me. So, problem solved. >I'll be getting a 12 pound roasted turkey, dressing, mashed potatoes, >gravy and cranberry sauce. We will have leftovers but that is fine. >Janet US A 12 pound turkey costs maybe 7-8 dollars, dressing, mashed, and gravy are dirt cheap... I really don't care for cranberry sauce, but if you're lazy there's canned. I see no big deal to roast a turkey, it roasts itself. A 12 pound turkey is no more difficult than roasting a large chicken. I find a Thanksgiving dinner the least laborious and least expensive dinner there is. We tried Thanksgiving dinner at a fancy schmancy restaurnat twice, never again... the bar bill was more than the meal. Truth be told Thanksgiving dinner at a fancy schmancy eatery is no better than a TV turkey dinner... actually a TV dinner at home is far FAR better. Ya know, you can get a better turkey dinner from Chewy. |
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Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 U.S. Janet B. wrote: >> >> I just ordered my complete cooked Thanksgiving dinner from Albertsons. >> The cost is about what it would be to order all the parts and pieces >> and then still have to cook. I just can't/don't want to cook all that >> stuff anymore. It's too hard on me. So, problem solved. >> I'll be getting a 12 pound roasted turkey, dressing, mashed potatoes, >> gravy and cranberry sauce. We will have leftovers but that is fine. >> Janet US > > A 12 pound turkey costs maybe 7-8 dollars, dressing, mashed, and gravy > are dirt cheap... I really don't care for cranberry sauce, but if > you're lazy there's canned. > I see no big deal to roast a turkey, it roasts itself. A 12 pound > turkey is no more difficult than roasting a large chicken. > I find a Thanksgiving dinner the least laborious and least expensive > dinner there is. We tried Thanksgiving dinner at a fancy schmancy > restaurnat twice, never again... the bar bill was more than the meal. > Truth be told Thanksgiving dinner at a fancy schmancy eatery is no > better than a TV turkey dinner... actually a TV dinner at home is far > FAR better. Ya know, you can get a better turkey dinner from Chewy. > Popeye, folks are not as smart as yoose. But good yoose work so hard to educate us dummies. Thank yoose Popeye! And praise Trump! |
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On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 3:22:02 PM UTC-6, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > I just ordered my complete cooked Thanksgiving dinner from Albertsons. > The cost is about what it would be to order all the parts and pieces > and then still have to cook. I just can't/don't want to cook all that > stuff anymore. It's too hard on me. So, problem solved. > I'll be getting a 12 pound roasted turkey, dressing, mashed potatoes, > gravy and cranberry sauce. We will have leftovers but that is fine. > Janet US > Let us know how their dressing is, please. I'll be traveling to my niece's new house 30 miles away for turkey day. A cooked ham will ride along with me and anything else she may ask me to bring. |
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On 11/11/2020 4:21 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > I just ordered my complete cooked Thanksgiving dinner from Albertsons. > The cost is about what it would be to order all the parts and pieces > and then still have to cook. I just can't/don't want to cook all that > stuff anymore. It's too hard on me. So, problem solved. > I'll be getting a 12 pound roasted turkey, dressing, mashed potatoes, > gravy and cranberry sauce. We will have leftovers but that is fine. > Janet US > Sounds like a plan. ![]() I do hope it turns out better than what happened when I was a teenager and my mother didn't feel like cooking Thanksgiving dinner. She saw an ad in the Sunday paper: Let Kroger Do It For You. Ads on TV, too. Turkey and all the fixin's. IIRC it sure looked tasty! So she ordered ahead, to be picked up on Thanksgiving day. The assumption was, of course, it would be a fully cooked meal. My brother and I went with her to pick it up. Carrying the box to the car my brother said, "This box is very cold." We opened up the box in the trunk and everything in it was frozen solid. The turkey, side dishes, everything. Mom was not a happy camper! She marched that box right back in and demanded her money back. We went to another store. We had steaks and baked potatoes for Thanksgiving dinner that year. ![]() Jill |
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 20:27:46 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote: >On 11/11/2020 4:21 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >> >> I just ordered my complete cooked Thanksgiving dinner from Albertsons. >> The cost is about what it would be to order all the parts and pieces >> and then still have to cook. I just can't/don't want to cook all that >> stuff anymore. It's too hard on me. So, problem solved. >> I'll be getting a 12 pound roasted turkey, dressing, mashed potatoes, >> gravy and cranberry sauce. We will have leftovers but that is fine. >> Janet US >> >Sounds like a plan. ![]() > >I do hope it turns out better than what happened when I was a teenager >and my mother didn't feel like cooking Thanksgiving dinner. She saw an >ad in the Sunday paper: Let Kroger Do It For You. Ads on TV, too. >Turkey and all the fixin's. IIRC it sure looked tasty! So she ordered >ahead, to be picked up on Thanksgiving day. The assumption was, of >course, it would be a fully cooked meal. My brother and I went with her >to pick it up. Carrying the box to the car my brother said, "This box >is very cold." We opened up the box in the trunk and everything in it >was frozen solid. The turkey, side dishes, everything. Mom was not a >happy camper! She marched that box right back in and demanded her money >back. > >We went to another store. We had steaks and baked potatoes for >Thanksgiving dinner that year. ![]() > >Jill That's like the movie Christmas Story/ The neighbor's dogs ate the turkey sot the family went out for Chinese dinner. BTW, it does say fully cooked ![]() Janet UF |
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On 2020-11-11 8:27 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/11/2020 4:21 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >> >> I just ordered my complete cooked Thanksgiving dinner from Albertsons. >> The cost is about what it would be to order all the parts and pieces >> and then still have to cook.* I just can't/don't want to cook all that >> stuff anymore.* It's too hard on me.* So, problem solved. >> I'll be getting a 12 pound roasted turkey, dressing, mashed potatoes, >> gravy and cranberry sauce.* We will have leftovers but that is fine. >> Janet US >> > Sounds like a plan. ![]() > > I do hope it turns out better than what happened when I was a teenager > and my mother didn't feel like cooking Thanksgiving dinner.* She saw an > ad in the Sunday paper: Let Kroger Do It For You.* Ads on TV, too. > Turkey and all the fixin's.* IIRC it sure looked tasty!* So she ordered > ahead, to be picked up on Thanksgiving day.* The assumption was, of > course, it would be a fully cooked meal.* My brother and I went with her > to pick it up.* Carrying the box to the car my brother said, "This box > is very cold."* We opened up the box in the trunk and everything in it > was frozen solid.* The turkey, side dishes, everything.* Mom was not a > happy camper!* She marched that box right back in and demanded her money > back. > > We went to another store.* We had steaks and baked potatoes for > Thanksgiving dinner that year. ![]() > That's an amazing story. When I was a kid stores were closed on Sundays and holidays. |
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On 11/11/2020 8:31 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 20:27:46 -0500, jmcquown > > wrote: > >> On 11/11/2020 4:21 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >>> >>> I just ordered my complete cooked Thanksgiving dinner from Albertsons. >>> The cost is about what it would be to order all the parts and pieces >>> and then still have to cook. I just can't/don't want to cook all that >>> stuff anymore. It's too hard on me. So, problem solved. >>> I'll be getting a 12 pound roasted turkey, dressing, mashed potatoes, >>> gravy and cranberry sauce. We will have leftovers but that is fine. >>> Janet US >>> >> Sounds like a plan. ![]() >> >> I do hope it turns out better than what happened when I was a teenager >> and my mother didn't feel like cooking Thanksgiving dinner. She saw an >> ad in the Sunday paper: Let Kroger Do It For You. Ads on TV, too. >> Turkey and all the fixin's. IIRC it sure looked tasty! So she ordered >> ahead, to be picked up on Thanksgiving day. The assumption was, of >> course, it would be a fully cooked meal. My brother and I went with her >> to pick it up. Carrying the box to the car my brother said, "This box >> is very cold." We opened up the box in the trunk and everything in it >> was frozen solid. The turkey, side dishes, everything. Mom was not a >> happy camper! She marched that box right back in and demanded her money >> back. >> >> We went to another store. We had steaks and baked potatoes for >> Thanksgiving dinner that year. ![]() >> >> Jill > > That's like the movie Christmas Story/ The neighbor's dogs ate the > turkey sot the family went out for Chinese dinner. > BTW, it does say fully cooked ![]() > Janet UF > LOL It's a Thanksgiving memory I'll never forget! Let's hope Albertson's means it when they advertise a fully cooked Thanksgiving dinner. ![]() Jill |
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On 11/11/2020 9:32 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-11-11 8:27 p.m., jmcquown wrote: >> On 11/11/2020 4:21 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >>> >>> I just ordered my complete cooked Thanksgiving dinner from Albertsons. >>> The cost is about what it would be to order all the parts and pieces >>> and then still have to cook.* I just can't/don't want to cook all that >>> stuff anymore.* It's too hard on me.* So, problem solved. >>> I'll be getting a 12 pound roasted turkey, dressing, mashed potatoes, >>> gravy and cranberry sauce.* We will have leftovers but that is fine. >>> Janet US >>> >> Sounds like a plan. ![]() >> >> I do hope it turns out better than what happened when I was a teenager >> and my mother didn't feel like cooking Thanksgiving dinner.* She saw >> an ad in the Sunday paper: Let Kroger Do It For You.* Ads on TV, too. >> Turkey and all the fixin's.* IIRC it sure looked tasty!* So she >> ordered ahead, to be picked up on Thanksgiving day.* The assumption >> was, of course, it would be a fully cooked meal.* My brother and I >> went with her to pick it up.* Carrying the box to the car my brother >> said, "This box is very cold."* We opened up the box in the trunk and >> everything in it was frozen solid.* The turkey, side dishes, >> everything.* Mom was not a happy camper!* She marched that box right >> back in and demanded her money back. >> >> We went to another store.* We had steaks and baked potatoes for >> Thanksgiving dinner that year. ![]() >> > > > That's an amazing story. When I was a kid stores were closed on Sundays > and holidays. What can I say? In the 1970's some grocery stores stayed open until 3PM on holidays such as Thanksgiving and Christmas. Thanksgiving has never been on a Sunday so that's a moot point. They stayed open until 3PM so people could pick up last minute things for their holiday meals. I don't remember exactly what time we went to pick up this dinner but it was certainly too late to thaw a turkey and all the sides and have it the same day. That night we ate steaks. Jill |
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On 2020-11-11 9:50 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/11/2020 9:32 PM, Dave Smith wrote: >> On 2020-11-11 8:27 p.m., jmcquown wrote: >>> On 11/11/2020 4:21 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >>>> >>>> I just ordered my complete cooked Thanksgiving dinner from Albertsons. >>>> The cost is about what it would be to order all the parts and pieces >>>> and then still have to cook.* I just can't/don't want to cook all that >>>> stuff anymore.* It's too hard on me.* So, problem solved. >>>> I'll be getting a 12 pound roasted turkey, dressing, mashed potatoes, >>>> gravy and cranberry sauce.* We will have leftovers but that is fine. >>>> Janet US >>>> >>> Sounds like a plan. ![]() >>> >>> I do hope it turns out better than what happened when I was a >>> teenager and my mother didn't feel like cooking Thanksgiving dinner. >>> She saw an ad in the Sunday paper: Let Kroger Do It For You.* Ads on >>> TV, too. Turkey and all the fixin's.* IIRC it sure looked tasty!* So >>> she ordered ahead, to be picked up on Thanksgiving day.* The >>> assumption was, of course, it would be a fully cooked meal.* My >>> brother and I went with her to pick it up.* Carrying the box to the >>> car my brother said, "This box is very cold."* We opened up the box >>> in the trunk and everything in it was frozen solid.* The turkey, side >>> dishes, everything.* Mom was not a happy camper!* She marched that >>> box right back in and demanded her money back. >>> >>> We went to another store.* We had steaks and baked potatoes for >>> Thanksgiving dinner that year. ![]() >>> >> >> >> That's an amazing story. When I was a kid stores were closed on >> Sundays and holidays. > > What can I say?* In the 1970's some grocery stores stayed open until 3PM > on holidays such as Thanksgiving and Christmas.* Thanksgiving has never > been on a Sunday so that's a moot point.* They stayed open until 3PM so > people could pick up last minute things for their holiday meals.* I > don't remember exactly what time we went to pick up this dinner but it > was certainly too late to thaw a turkey and all the sides and have it > the same day.* That night we ate steaks. > > They were talking about a complete cooked meal, which one would expect to be delivered in time for dinner, not early enough to go out to the store. |
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jmcquown wrote:
> > LOL It's a Thanksgiving memory I'll never forget! Let's hope > Albertson's means it when they advertise a fully cooked Thanksgiving > dinner. ![]() My mother and sister bought one a few years ago. It was fully cooked but all cold. Still had to heat it all up at home. They were expecting a hot meal, ready to eat. They should have asked about that. |
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On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:45:41 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-11-11 9:50 p.m., jmcquown wrote: > > On 11/11/2020 9:32 PM, Dave Smith wrote: > >> On 2020-11-11 8:27 p.m., jmcquown wrote: > >>> On 11/11/2020 4:21 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I just ordered my complete cooked Thanksgiving dinner from Albertsons. > >>>> The cost is about what it would be to order all the parts and pieces > >>>> and then still have to cook. I just can't/don't want to cook all that > >>>> stuff anymore. It's too hard on me. So, problem solved. > >>>> I'll be getting a 12 pound roasted turkey, dressing, mashed potatoes, > >>>> gravy and cranberry sauce. We will have leftovers but that is fine. > >>>> Janet US > >>>> > >>> Sounds like a plan. ![]() > >>> > >>> I do hope it turns out better than what happened when I was a > >>> teenager and my mother didn't feel like cooking Thanksgiving dinner. > >>> She saw an ad in the Sunday paper: Let Kroger Do It For You. Ads on > >>> TV, too. Turkey and all the fixin's. IIRC it sure looked tasty! So > >>> she ordered ahead, to be picked up on Thanksgiving day. The > >>> assumption was, of course, it would be a fully cooked meal. My > >>> brother and I went with her to pick it up. Carrying the box to the > >>> car my brother said, "This box is very cold." We opened up the box > >>> in the trunk and everything in it was frozen solid. The turkey, side > >>> dishes, everything. Mom was not a happy camper! She marched that > >>> box right back in and demanded her money back. > >>> > >>> We went to another store. We had steaks and baked potatoes for > >>> Thanksgiving dinner that year. ![]() > >>> > >> > >> > >> That's an amazing story. When I was a kid stores were closed on > >> Sundays and holidays. > > > > What can I say? In the 1970's some grocery stores stayed open until 3PM > > on holidays such as Thanksgiving and Christmas. Thanksgiving has never > > been on a Sunday so that's a moot point. They stayed open until 3PM so > > people could pick up last minute things for their holiday meals. I > > don't remember exactly what time we went to pick up this dinner but it > > was certainly too late to thaw a turkey and all the sides and have it > > the same day. That night we ate steaks. > > > > > They were talking about a complete cooked meal, which one would expect > to be delivered in time for dinner, not early enough to go out to the > store. We always served Sunday and holiday dinners around 2 pm when I was a kid. Now I time them to be ready at 5:30-6. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 21:32:50 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2020-11-11 8:27 p.m., jmcquown wrote: >> On 11/11/2020 4:21 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >>> >>> I just ordered my complete cooked Thanksgiving dinner from Albertsons. >>> The cost is about what it would be to order all the parts and pieces >>> and then still have to cook.* I just can't/don't want to cook all that >>> stuff anymore.* It's too hard on me.* So, problem solved. >>> I'll be getting a 12 pound roasted turkey, dressing, mashed potatoes, >>> gravy and cranberry sauce.* We will have leftovers but that is fine. >>> Janet US >>> >> Sounds like a plan. ![]() >> >> I do hope it turns out better than what happened when I was a teenager >> and my mother didn't feel like cooking Thanksgiving dinner.* She saw an >> ad in the Sunday paper: Let Kroger Do It For You.* Ads on TV, too. >> Turkey and all the fixin's.* IIRC it sure looked tasty!* So she ordered >> ahead, to be picked up on Thanksgiving day.* The assumption was, of >> course, it would be a fully cooked meal.* My brother and I went with her >> to pick it up.* Carrying the box to the car my brother said, "This box >> is very cold."* We opened up the box in the trunk and everything in it >> was frozen solid.* The turkey, side dishes, everything.* Mom was not a >> happy camper!* She marched that box right back in and demanded her money >> back. >> >> We went to another store.* We had steaks and baked potatoes for >> Thanksgiving dinner that year. ![]() > >That's an amazing story. When I was a kid stores were closed on Sundays >and holidays. Chinese restaurants don't close on other people's holidays.... in NYC on the Jewish high holy days is when they do their best business... that's when they sell tons of shrimp and pork. |
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On 2020-11-12 7:41 a.m., Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 21:32:50 -0500, Dave Smith >> That's an amazing story. When I was a kid stores were closed on Sundays >> and holidays. > > Chinese restaurants don't close on other people's holidays.... in NYC > on the Jewish high holy days is when they do their best business... Yep, Jewish Christmas meal is Chinese food is a stereotype. I have to trust the movies for that because I have always had a home cooked Christmas dinner and have never been by a Chinese restaurant on Christmas. > that's when they sell tons of shrimp and pork. I don't doubt it. There was an A&W across from my high school. The Jewish kids would order the burgers with cheese and bacon, the stuff they never got at home. |
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:00:08 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2020-11-12 7:41 a.m., Sheldon Martin wrote: >> On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 21:32:50 -0500, Dave Smith > >>> That's an amazing story. When I was a kid stores were closed on Sundays >>> and holidays. >> >> Chinese restaurants don't close on other people's holidays.... in NYC >> on the Jewish high holy days is when they do their best business... > >Yep, Jewish Christmas meal is Chinese food is a stereotype. I have to >trust the movies for that because I have always had a home cooked >Christmas dinner and have never been by a Chinese restaurant on Christmas. > > >> that's when they sell tons of shrimp and pork. > >I don't doubt it. There was an A&W across from my high school. The >Jewish kids would order the burgers with cheese and bacon, the stuff >they never got at home. > At most, here in the US, maybe 155-20% of Jews keep kosher, so anecdotes like this are pretty useless...and basically bullshit. |
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On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 9:58:49 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> Yep, Jewish Christmas meal is Chinese food is a stereotype. I have to > trust the movies for that because I have always had a home cooked > Christmas dinner and have never been by a Chinese restaurant on Christmas. I did so once. We were visiting my in-laws. When some of the brothers started smoking in the house prior to dinner my husband had an asthma attack and we returned to our hotel. I got Chinese takeout and brought it back. The restaurant was hopping busy. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:19:15 -0500, Boron Elgar
> wrote: >On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:00:08 -0500, Dave Smith > wrote: > >>On 2020-11-12 7:41 a.m., Sheldon Martin wrote: >>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 21:32:50 -0500, Dave Smith >> >>>> That's an amazing story. When I was a kid stores were closed on Sundays >>>> and holidays. >>> >>> Chinese restaurants don't close on other people's holidays.... in NYC >>> on the Jewish high holy days is when they do their best business... >> >>Yep, Jewish Christmas meal is Chinese food is a stereotype. I have to >>trust the movies for that because I have always had a home cooked >>Christmas dinner and have never been by a Chinese restaurant on Christmas. >> >> >>> that's when they sell tons of shrimp and pork. >> >>I don't doubt it. There was an A&W across from my high school. The >>Jewish kids would order the burgers with cheese and bacon, the stuff >>they never got at home. >> > >At most, here in the US, maybe 155-20% of Jews keep kosher, so >anecdotes like this are pretty useless...and basically bullshit. No different than Catholics and fish on Fridays stories. Janet US |
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 09:35:03 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote: >On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:19:15 -0500, Boron Elgar > wrote: > >>On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:00:08 -0500, Dave Smith > wrote: >> >>>On 2020-11-12 7:41 a.m., Sheldon Martin wrote: >>>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 21:32:50 -0500, Dave Smith >>> >>>>> That's an amazing story. When I was a kid stores were closed on Sundays >>>>> and holidays. >>>> >>>> Chinese restaurants don't close on other people's holidays.... in NYC >>>> on the Jewish high holy days is when they do their best business... >>> >>>Yep, Jewish Christmas meal is Chinese food is a stereotype. I have to >>>trust the movies for that because I have always had a home cooked >>>Christmas dinner and have never been by a Chinese restaurant on Christmas. >>> >>> >>>> that's when they sell tons of shrimp and pork. >>> >>>I don't doubt it. There was an A&W across from my high school. The >>>Jewish kids would order the burgers with cheese and bacon, the stuff >>>they never got at home. >>> >> >>At most, here in the US, maybe 155-20% of Jews keep kosher, so >>anecdotes like this are pretty useless...and basically bullshit. > >No different than Catholics and fish on Fridays stories. >Janet US Yup. |
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On 2020-11-12 11:35 a.m., U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:19:15 -0500, Boron Elgar > > wrote: > >> On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:00:08 -0500, Dave Smith >> > wrote: >> >>> On 2020-11-12 7:41 a.m., Sheldon Martin wrote: >>>> Chinese restaurants don't close on other people's holidays.... in NYC >>>> on the Jewish high holy days is when they do their best business... >>> >>> Yep, Jewish Christmas meal is Chinese food is a stereotype. I have to >>> trust the movies for that because I have always had a home cooked >>> Christmas dinner and have never been by a Chinese restaurant on Christmas. >>> >>> >>>> that's when they sell tons of shrimp and pork. >>> >>> I don't doubt it. There was an A&W across from my high school. The >>> Jewish kids would order the burgers with cheese and bacon, the stuff >>> they never got at home. >>> >> >> At most, here in the US, maybe 155-20% of Jews keep kosher, so >> anecdotes like this are pretty useless...and basically bullshit. > > No different than Catholics and fish on Fridays stories. And Baptists going to another town to buy liquor. |
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On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 8:58:49 AM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-11-12 7:41 a.m., Sheldon Martin wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 21:32:50 -0500, Dave Smith > >> That's an amazing story. When I was a kid stores were closed on Sundays > >> and holidays. > > > > Chinese restaurants don't close on other people's holidays.... in NYC > > on the Jewish high holy days is when they do their best business... > Yep, Jewish Christmas meal is Chinese food is a stereotype. I have to > trust the movies for that because I have always had a home cooked > Christmas dinner and have never been by a Chinese restaurant on Christmas. > > that's when they sell tons of shrimp and pork. > I don't doubt it. There was an A&W across from my high school. The > Jewish kids would order the burgers with cheese and bacon, the stuff > they never got at home. Here in St. Louis, the Chinese takeout places don't close on Christmas *unless* Christmas happens to be on a Sunday. Christmas or not, they are closed on Sunday. --Bryan |
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On 2020-11-12 10:19 a.m., Moron Elgar wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:00:08 -0500, Dave Smith > > wrote: >> Yep, Jewish Christmas meal is Chinese food is a stereotype. I have to >> trust the movies for that because I have always had a home cooked >> Christmas dinner and have never been by a Chinese restaurant on Christmas. >> >> >>> that's when they sell tons of shrimp and pork. >> >> I don't doubt it. There was an A&W across from my high school. The >> Jewish kids would order the burgers with cheese and bacon, the stuff >> they never got at home. >> > > At most, here in the US, maybe 155-20% of Jews keep kosher, so > anecdotes like this are pretty useless...and basically bullshit. > Bullshit as in a lie? Screw you. |
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 07:41:05 -0500, Sheldon Martin >
wrote: >On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 21:32:50 -0500, Dave Smith > wrote: > >>On 2020-11-11 8:27 p.m., jmcquown wrote: >>>> >>> Sounds like a plan. ![]() >>> >>> I do hope it turns out better than what happened when I was a teenager >>> and my mother didn't feel like cooking Thanksgiving dinner.* She saw an >>> ad in the Sunday paper: Let Kroger Do It For You.* Ads on TV, too. >>> Turkey and all the fixin's.* IIRC it sure looked tasty!* So she ordered >>> ahead, to be picked up on Thanksgiving day.* The assumption was, of >>> course, it would be a fully cooked meal.* My brother and I went with her >>> to pick it up.* Carrying the box to the car my brother said, "This box >>> is very cold."* We opened up the box in the trunk and everything in it >>> was frozen solid.* The turkey, side dishes, everything.* Mom was not a >>> happy camper!* She marched that box right back in and demanded her money >>> back. >>> >>> We went to another store.* We had steaks and baked potatoes for >>> Thanksgiving dinner that year. ![]() >> >>That's an amazing story. When I was a kid stores were closed on Sundays >>and holidays. > >Chinese restaurants don't close on other people's holidays.... in NYC >on the Jewish high holy days is when they do their best business... >that's when they sell tons of shrimp and pork. But do those Chinese cook kosher? Chinese will eat anything they can catch. |
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:19:15 -0500, Boron Elgar
> wrote: >On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:00:08 -0500, Dave Smith > wrote: > >>Yep, Jewish Christmas meal is Chinese food is a stereotype. I have to >>trust the movies for that because I have always had a home cooked >>Christmas dinner and have never been by a Chinese restaurant on Christmas. >> >> >>> that's when they sell tons of shrimp and pork. >> >>I don't doubt it. There was an A&W across from my high school. The >>Jewish kids would order the burgers with cheese and bacon, the stuff >>they never got at home. >> > >At most, here in the US, maybe 155-20% of Jews keep kosher, so >anecdotes like this are pretty useless...and basically bullshit. I don't know, but I can imagine that in the 50s (Sheldon's frame of reference) and on a Jewish religious holiday, the chance of a Jewish person eating kosher is bigger than normal. |
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Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 07:41:05 -0500, Sheldon Martin > > wrote: > >> On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 21:32:50 -0500, Dave Smith >> > wrote: >> >>> On 2020-11-11 8:27 p.m., jmcquown wrote: >>>>> >>>> Sounds like a plan. ![]() >>>> >>>> I do hope it turns out better than what happened when I was a teenager >>>> and my mother didn't feel like cooking Thanksgiving dinner.* She saw an >>>> ad in the Sunday paper: Let Kroger Do It For You.* Ads on TV, too. >>>> Turkey and all the fixin's.* IIRC it sure looked tasty!* So she ordered >>>> ahead, to be picked up on Thanksgiving day.* The assumption was, of >>>> course, it would be a fully cooked meal.* My brother and I went with her >>>> to pick it up.* Carrying the box to the car my brother said, "This box >>>> is very cold."* We opened up the box in the trunk and everything in it >>>> was frozen solid.* The turkey, side dishes, everything.* Mom was not a >>>> happy camper!* She marched that box right back in and demanded her money >>>> back. >>>> >>>> We went to another store.* We had steaks and baked potatoes for >>>> Thanksgiving dinner that year. ![]() >>> >>> That's an amazing story. When I was a kid stores were closed on Sundays >>> and holidays. >> >> Chinese restaurants don't close on other people's holidays.... in NYC >> on the Jewish high holy days is when they do their best business... >> that's when they sell tons of shrimp and pork. > > But do those Chinese cook kosher? Chinese will eat anything they can > catch. > Do they smell different to you? |
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On 11/12/2020 6:17 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote: >> >> LOL It's a Thanksgiving memory I'll never forget! Let's hope >> Albertson's means it when they advertise a fully cooked Thanksgiving >> dinner. ![]() > > My mother and sister bought one a few years ago. It was fully > cooked but all cold. Still had to heat it all up at home. > They were expecting a hot meal, ready to eat. > They should have asked about that. > Heating up would have been expected. Frozen solid in the box was not. Jill |
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On 11/12/2020 12:51 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:19:15 -0500, Boron Elgar > > wrote: > >> On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:00:08 -0500, Dave Smith >> > wrote: >> >>> Yep, Jewish Christmas meal is Chinese food is a stereotype. I have to >>> trust the movies for that because I have always had a home cooked >>> Christmas dinner and have never been by a Chinese restaurant on Christmas. >>> >>> >>>> that's when they sell tons of shrimp and pork. >>> >>> I don't doubt it. There was an A&W across from my high school. The >>> Jewish kids would order the burgers with cheese and bacon, the stuff >>> they never got at home. >>> >> >> At most, here in the US, maybe 155-20% of Jews keep kosher, so >> anecdotes like this are pretty useless...and basically bullshit. > > I don't know, but I can imagine that in the 50s (Sheldon's frame of > reference) and on a Jewish religious holiday, the chance of a Jewish > person eating kosher is bigger than normal. > Hardly a statistic but some Jewish families did just that on holidays, serving traditional meals. I only know of one family that did not cook on the sabbath, back then I don't know if stoves even had sabbath mode. Few Jewish businesses closed on the sabbath too as it was usually the busiest day of the week in retail. One Jewish deli we went to had a special slicer in the back for slicing ham, nothing else. They wanted to accommodate their customers. There were some kosher restaurants too, one being the Ambassador. It was not big or fancy but the waiters were older gentlemen and very classy. Reopened but I don't think it is the same. https://www.inquirer.com/food/ambass...-20191003.html Speaking of timeworn: If you say Ambassador and Seventh and Girard to those of a certain age, theyll think of blintzes and whitefish platters. The Ambassador was a kosher dairy restaurant on the southwest corner from the 1940s through 1975. |
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On 12/11/2020 19:53, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Hardly a statistic but some Jewish families did just that on holidays, > serving traditional meals.* I only know of one family that did not cook > on the sabbath, back then I don't know if stoves even had sabbath mode. > Many years ago, I lived in a poor, mixed, neighbourhood in northern NJ - many stoves required matches to light, and Jewish families relied on Christian neighbours to light them. Sabbath mode not required! |
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 12:38:14 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2020-11-12 10:19 a.m., Moron Elgar wrote: >> On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:00:08 -0500, Dave Smith >> > wrote: > >>> Yep, Jewish Christmas meal is Chinese food is a stereotype. I have to >>> trust the movies for that because I have always had a home cooked >>> Christmas dinner and have never been by a Chinese restaurant on Christmas. >>> >>> >>>> that's when they sell tons of shrimp and pork. >>> >>> I don't doubt it. There was an A&W across from my high school. The >>> Jewish kids would order the burgers with cheese and bacon, the stuff >>> they never got at home. >>> >> >> At most, here in the US, maybe 155-20% of Jews keep kosher, so >> anecdotes like this are pretty useless...and basically bullshit. >> > >Bullshit as in a lie? Screw you. Yeah, bullshit as in bullshit. You're a right wing bigot, so, ya know, I *do* consider the source, and you seem to adore pretending to be some Canadian Dollar Store version of TMZ with crap like this, but, yeah, you are full of bullshit. I realize you have a lot of company around here, but it is still bullshit. |
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 04:38:36 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 07:41:05 -0500, Sheldon Martin > >wrote: > >>On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 21:32:50 -0500, Dave Smith > wrote: >> >>>On 2020-11-11 8:27 p.m., jmcquown wrote: >>>>> >>>> Sounds like a plan. ![]() >>>> >>>> I do hope it turns out better than what happened when I was a teenager >>>> and my mother didn't feel like cooking Thanksgiving dinner.* She saw an >>>> ad in the Sunday paper: Let Kroger Do It For You.* Ads on TV, too. >>>> Turkey and all the fixin's.* IIRC it sure looked tasty!* So she ordered >>>> ahead, to be picked up on Thanksgiving day.* The assumption was, of >>>> course, it would be a fully cooked meal.* My brother and I went with her >>>> to pick it up.* Carrying the box to the car my brother said, "This box >>>> is very cold."* We opened up the box in the trunk and everything in it >>>> was frozen solid.* The turkey, side dishes, everything.* Mom was not a >>>> happy camper!* She marched that box right back in and demanded her money >>>> back. >>>> >>>> We went to another store.* We had steaks and baked potatoes for >>>> Thanksgiving dinner that year. ![]() >>> >>>That's an amazing story. When I was a kid stores were closed on Sundays >>>and holidays. >> >>Chinese restaurants don't close on other people's holidays.... in NYC >>on the Jewish high holy days is when they do their best business... >>that's when they sell tons of shrimp and pork. > >But do those Chinese cook kosher? Chinese will eat anything they can >catch. I have been to kosher Chinese restaurants IN NYC in years past. I have not seen one in ages and ages, so do not know if they still exist. |
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 04:51:42 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:19:15 -0500, Boron Elgar > wrote: > >>On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:00:08 -0500, Dave Smith > wrote: >> >>>Yep, Jewish Christmas meal is Chinese food is a stereotype. I have to >>>trust the movies for that because I have always had a home cooked >>>Christmas dinner and have never been by a Chinese restaurant on Christmas. >>> >>> >>>> that's when they sell tons of shrimp and pork. >>> >>>I don't doubt it. There was an A&W across from my high school. The >>>Jewish kids would order the burgers with cheese and bacon, the stuff >>>they never got at home. >>> >> >>At most, here in the US, maybe 155-20% of Jews keep kosher, so >>anecdotes like this are pretty useless...and basically bullshit. > >I don't know, but I can imagine that in the 50s (Sheldon's frame of >reference) and on a Jewish religious holiday, the chance of a Jewish >person eating kosher is bigger than normal. Sheldon is a lying asshole. You should know that. Sheldon almost never says anything factual about Jews. Frankly, he doesn't know much about the religion or its practices and traditions. An observant Jew who keeps kosher is not likely to break kashruth this way- either in a Chinese restaurant for a Christian holiday, or for "fun" mixing dairy and meat products or similar. Anyone who does that is not keeping kosher. Now then, there are a lot of Jews who simply do not observe dietary laws and who pretty much eat whatever and whenever they please. TWIAVBP and Jews run the gamut from very religious to atheists. |
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 14:53:39 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>On 11/12/2020 12:51 PM, Bruce wrote: >> On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:19:15 -0500, Boron Elgar >> > wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:00:08 -0500, Dave Smith >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Yep, Jewish Christmas meal is Chinese food is a stereotype. I have to >>>> trust the movies for that because I have always had a home cooked >>>> Christmas dinner and have never been by a Chinese restaurant on Christmas. >>>> >>>> >>>>> that's when they sell tons of shrimp and pork. >>>> >>>> I don't doubt it. There was an A&W across from my high school. The >>>> Jewish kids would order the burgers with cheese and bacon, the stuff >>>> they never got at home. >>>> >>> >>> At most, here in the US, maybe 155-20% of Jews keep kosher, so >>> anecdotes like this are pretty useless...and basically bullshit. >> >> I don't know, but I can imagine that in the 50s (Sheldon's frame of >> reference) and on a Jewish religious holiday, the chance of a Jewish >> person eating kosher is bigger than normal. >> > >Hardly a statistic but some Jewish families did just that on holidays, >serving traditional meals. I only know of one family that did not cook >on the sabbath, back then I don't know if stoves even had sabbath mode. > >Few Jewish businesses closed on the sabbath too as it was usually the >busiest day of the week in retail. > >One Jewish deli we went to had a special slicer in the back for slicing >ham, nothing else. They wanted to accommodate their customers. > >There were some kosher restaurants too, one being the Ambassador. It >was not big or fancy but the waiters were older gentlemen and very >classy. Reopened but I don't think it is the same. >https://www.inquirer.com/food/ambass...-20191003.html > >Speaking of timeworn: If you say Ambassador and Seventh and Girard >to those of a certain age, theyll think of blintzes and whitefish >platters. The Ambassador was a kosher dairy restaurant on the southwest >corner from the 1940s through 1975. I worked in the garment district in Manhattan for years. The area had a lot of kosher restaurants (that is where one of the Chinese ones I recalled was located), but my fondest memories of lunching in that area come from those dairy restaurants. I adored them. |
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 21:33:11 +0000, S Viemeister
> wrote: >On 12/11/2020 19:53, Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >> Hardly a statistic but some Jewish families did just that on holidays, >> serving traditional meals.* I only know of one family that did not cook >> on the sabbath, back then I don't know if stoves even had sabbath mode. >> Many years ago, I lived in a poor, mixed, neighbourhood in northern NJ - >many stoves required matches to light, and Jewish families relied on >Christian neighbours to light them. Sabbath mode not required! Or the Sabbath meal was started before sundown on Friday evening and left to cook in the oven on a low heat, so no lighting of a flame was required. A dish called cholent was made this way and popular among some Ashkenazi Jews. Middle eastern and North African Jews had other variations of meals that could be started before the Sabbath started |
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On 12/11/2020 21:47, Boron Elgar wrote:
> I have been to kosher Chinese restaurants IN NYC in years past. I have > not seen one in ages and ages, so do not know if they still exist. > When I ran a yarn shop, I used to visit wholesalers on the lower East Side, and remember seeing kosher Chinese eating places, but I haven't been in the area for a long time, so don't know if they're still there. |
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On 2020-11-12 4:45 p.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 12:38:14 -0500, Dave Smith > > wrote: > >> On 2020-11-12 10:19 a.m., Moron Elgar wrote: >>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:00:08 -0500, Dave Smith >>> > wrote: >> >>>> Yep, Jewish Christmas meal is Chinese food is a stereotype. I have to >>>> trust the movies for that because I have always had a home cooked >>>> Christmas dinner and have never been by a Chinese restaurant on Christmas. >>>> >>>> >>>>> that's when they sell tons of shrimp and pork. >>>> >>>> I don't doubt it. There was an A&W across from my high school. The >>>> Jewish kids would order the burgers with cheese and bacon, the stuff >>>> they never got at home. >>>> >>> >>> At most, here in the US, maybe 155-20% of Jews keep kosher, so >>> anecdotes like this are pretty useless...and basically bullshit. >>> >> >> Bullshit as in a lie? Screw you. > > > Yeah, bullshit as in bullshit. You're a right wing bigot, Those people were my friends. So... **** you. |
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 16:47:59 -0500, Boron Elgar
> wrote: >On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 04:38:36 +1100, Bruce > wrote: > >>On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 07:41:05 -0500, Sheldon Martin > >>wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 21:32:50 -0500, Dave Smith > wrote: >>> >>>>On 2020-11-11 8:27 p.m., jmcquown wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> Sounds like a plan. ![]() >>>>> >>>>> I do hope it turns out better than what happened when I was a teenager >>>>> and my mother didn't feel like cooking Thanksgiving dinner.* She saw an >>>>> ad in the Sunday paper: Let Kroger Do It For You.* Ads on TV, too. >>>>> Turkey and all the fixin's.* IIRC it sure looked tasty!* So she ordered >>>>> ahead, to be picked up on Thanksgiving day.* The assumption was, of >>>>> course, it would be a fully cooked meal.* My brother and I went with her >>>>> to pick it up.* Carrying the box to the car my brother said, "This box >>>>> is very cold."* We opened up the box in the trunk and everything in it >>>>> was frozen solid.* The turkey, side dishes, everything.* Mom was not a >>>>> happy camper!* She marched that box right back in and demanded her money >>>>> back. >>>>> >>>>> We went to another store.* We had steaks and baked potatoes for >>>>> Thanksgiving dinner that year. ![]() >>>> >>>>That's an amazing story. When I was a kid stores were closed on Sundays >>>>and holidays. >>> >>>Chinese restaurants don't close on other people's holidays.... in NYC >>>on the Jewish high holy days is when they do their best business... >>>that's when they sell tons of shrimp and pork. >> >>But do those Chinese cook kosher? Chinese will eat anything they can >>catch. > >I have been to kosher Chinese restaurants IN NYC in years past. I have >not seen one in ages and ages, so do not know if they still exist. Ok, I didn't know they ever existed. |
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 16:58:20 -0500, Boron Elgar
> wrote: >On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 04:51:42 +1100, Bruce > wrote: > >>On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:19:15 -0500, Boron Elgar > wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:00:08 -0500, Dave Smith > wrote: >>> >>>>Yep, Jewish Christmas meal is Chinese food is a stereotype. I have to >>>>trust the movies for that because I have always had a home cooked >>>>Christmas dinner and have never been by a Chinese restaurant on Christmas. >>>> >>>> >>>>> that's when they sell tons of shrimp and pork. >>>> >>>>I don't doubt it. There was an A&W across from my high school. The >>>>Jewish kids would order the burgers with cheese and bacon, the stuff >>>>they never got at home. >>>> >>> >>>At most, here in the US, maybe 155-20% of Jews keep kosher, so >>>anecdotes like this are pretty useless...and basically bullshit. >> >>I don't know, but I can imagine that in the 50s (Sheldon's frame of >>reference) and on a Jewish religious holiday, the chance of a Jewish >>person eating kosher is bigger than normal. > >Sheldon is a lying asshole. You should know that. Yes, when Sheldon says something, that's a strong indication that the opposite is true. >Sheldon almost never >says anything factual about Jews. Frankly, he doesn't know much about >the religion or its practices and traditions. > >An observant Jew who keeps kosher is not likely to break kashruth this >way- either in a Chinese restaurant for a Christian holiday, or for >"fun" mixing dairy and meat products or similar. Anyone who does that >is not keeping kosher. > >Now then, there are a lot of Jews who simply do not observe dietary >laws and who pretty much eat whatever and whenever they please. >TWIAVBP and Jews run the gamut from very religious to atheists. Yes. |
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 10:03:13 +1100, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 16:47:59 -0500, Boron Elgar > > wrote: > >>On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 04:38:36 +1100, Bruce > wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 07:41:05 -0500, Sheldon Martin > >>>wrote: >>> >>>>On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 21:32:50 -0500, Dave Smith > wrote: >>>> >>>>>On 2020-11-11 8:27 p.m., jmcquown wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>> Sounds like a plan. ![]() >>>>>> >>>>>> I do hope it turns out better than what happened when I was a teenager >>>>>> and my mother didn't feel like cooking Thanksgiving dinner.* She saw an >>>>>> ad in the Sunday paper: Let Kroger Do It For You.* Ads on TV, too. >>>>>> Turkey and all the fixin's.* IIRC it sure looked tasty!* So she ordered >>>>>> ahead, to be picked up on Thanksgiving day.* The assumption was, of >>>>>> course, it would be a fully cooked meal.* My brother and I went with her >>>>>> to pick it up.* Carrying the box to the car my brother said, "This box >>>>>> is very cold."* We opened up the box in the trunk and everything in it >>>>>> was frozen solid.* The turkey, side dishes, everything.* Mom was not a >>>>>> happy camper!* She marched that box right back in and demanded her money >>>>>> back. >>>>>> >>>>>> We went to another store.* We had steaks and baked potatoes for >>>>>> Thanksgiving dinner that year. ![]() >>>>> >>>>>That's an amazing story. When I was a kid stores were closed on Sundays >>>>>and holidays. >>>> >>>>Chinese restaurants don't close on other people's holidays.... in NYC >>>>on the Jewish high holy days is when they do their best business... >>>>that's when they sell tons of shrimp and pork. >>> >>>But do those Chinese cook kosher? Chinese will eat anything they can >>>catch. >> >>I have been to kosher Chinese restaurants IN NYC in years past. I have >>not seen one in ages and ages, so do not know if they still exist. > > Ok, I didn't know they ever existed. And kosher pizzarias too. A few years ago, a local rabbi had a hankering for a pizza from a particular NY restaurant and had a pizza Fedexed. |
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 22:20:38 +0000, S Viemeister
> wrote: >On 12/11/2020 21:47, Boron Elgar wrote: > >> I have been to kosher Chinese restaurants IN NYC in years past. I have >> not seen one in ages and ages, so do not know if they still exist. >> >When I ran a yarn shop, I used to visit wholesalers on the lower East >Side, and remember seeing kosher Chinese eating places, but I haven't >been in the area for a long time, so don't know if they're still there. The lower east side is so gentrified now, you'd be surprised to find too much you'd recognize. |
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