On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 9:36:22 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> https://i.postimg.cc/FHGgkxXZ/Baby-II-In-The-Sun.jpg
>
> :-)
>
> John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian

Pretty girl! And sounds almost as good as my basement Listening Room!

John Kuthe...

on 9/3/2020, John Kuthe whined like a little bitch :
> https://i.postimg.cc/kuthe.is.****ed.in.the.head
>
STFU, idiot.

On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 11:49:49 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> on 9/3/2020, John Kuthe whined like a little bitch :
> > https://i.postimg.cc/kuthe.is.****ed.in.the.head
> >
> STFU, idiot.

Thanks Asshole!

Prettiest little 2008 Grand Caravan YOU ever saw! And she's made up into a Kayaking and Camping vehicle! Those are Yakima racks with an inner steel tube in the crossbars to make them more rigid and one of the best sound systems YOU have ever heard! With two Alpine amplifiers (one 5 way 100Wx500W and one 75W to the front dash speakers) and an Alpine DSP unit on their inputs set up for Active EQ! Four 100W 6x9 Alpine door speakers set up to act as well sealed and sound dampened speaker cabinets, two 5.25" two way PHD audiophile speakers in the dash with separate tweeters in pods off the A-frame pillars next to the inside of the windshield and a 12"slim line woofer in a wood cabinet under my butt!

Kicks ass too! But uses gasoline so I drive it only when necessary!

John Kuthe...

John Kuthe whined like a little bitch:
> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 11:49:49 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> on 9/3/2020, John Kuthe whined like a little bitch :
>>> https://i.postimg.cc/kuthe.is.****ed.in.the.head
>>>
>> STFU, idiot.
>
> I'm an Asshole too.
>
>
I see that -

https://www.google.com/search?q=John...1360&bih =625

Or -

https://tinyurl.com/y3kx6y99 LOL!

On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 12:13:45 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> John Kuthe whined like a little bitch:
> > On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 11:49:49 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> on 9/3/2020, John Kuthe whined like a little bitch :
> >>> https://i.postimg.cc/kuthe.is.****ed.in.the.head
> >>>
> >> STFU, idiot.
> >
> > I'm an Asshole too.
> >
> >
> I see that -
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=John...1360&bih =625
>
> Or -
>
> https://tinyurl.com/y3kx6y99 LOL!

The other thing a search brings up is a Facebook page somebody made making fun of him. John is disliked by a lot of people. There's a FB page where I refer to him as He Who Must Not Be Named, and no one has asked. I think some of the regulars just assume because they know from the old days that we used to kayak together. https://www.facebook.com/john.kuthe.39 It'd be funny if it was someone from rfc who made the page.

--Bryan

Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 12:13:45 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> John Kuthe whined like a little bitch:
>>> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 11:49:49 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> on 9/3/2020, John Kuthe whined like a little bitch :
>>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/kuthe.is.****ed.in.the.head
>>>>>
>>>> STFU, idiot.
>>>
>>> I'm an Asshole too.
>>>
>>>
>> I see that -
>>
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=John...1360&bih =625
>>
>> Or -
>>
>> https://tinyurl.com/y3kx6y99 LOL!
>
> The other thing a search brings up is a Facebook page somebody made making fun of him. John is disliked by a lot of people. There's a FB page where I refer to him as He Who Must Not Be Named, and no one has asked. I think some of the regulars just assume because they know from the old days that we used to kayak together. https://www.facebook.com/john.kuthe.39 It'd be funny if it was someone from rfc who made the page.
>
> --Bryan
>

I'm wondering if you still have an old flickering flame for kuth?
You both seem unable to let go. It must have been a powerful
experience for both of you.

Maybe you could use that for your next novel.

On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 16:50:36 -0500, Hank Rogers >
wrote:

>Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 12:13:45 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> John Kuthe whined like a little bitch:
>>>> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 11:49:49 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> on 9/3/2020, John Kuthe whined like a little bitch :
>>>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/kuthe.is.****ed.in.the.head
>>>>>>
>>>>> STFU, idiot.
>>>>
>>>> I'm an Asshole too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I see that -
>>>
>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=John...1360&bih =625
>>>
>>> Or -
>>>
>>> https://tinyurl.com/y3kx6y99 LOL!
>>
>> The other thing a search brings up is a Facebook page somebody made making fun of him. John is disliked by a lot of people. There's a FB page where I refer to him as He Who Must Not Be Named, and no one has asked. I think some of the regulars just assume because they know from the old days that we used to kayak together. https://www.facebook.com/john.kuthe.39 It'd be funny if it was someone from rfc who made the page.
>>
>> --Bryan
>>
>
>I'm wondering if you still have an old flickering flame for kuth?
>You both seem unable to let go. It must have been a powerful
>experience for both of you.
>
>Maybe you could use that for your next novel.

I've never seen a relationship, history and psychology quite like with
these two guys before.

On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 4:50:47 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
> Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 12:13:45 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> John Kuthe whined like a little bitch:
> >>> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 11:49:49 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>>> on 9/3/2020, John Kuthe whined like a little bitch :
> >>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/kuthe.is.****ed.in.the.head
> >>>>>
> >>>> STFU, idiot.
> >>>
> >>> I'm an Asshole too.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> I see that -
> >>
> >> https://www.google.com/search?q=John...1360&bih =625
> >>
> >> Or -
> >>
> >> https://tinyurl.com/y3kx6y99 LOL!
> >
> > The other thing a search brings up is a Facebook page somebody made making fun of him. John is disliked by a lot of people. There's a FB page where I refer to him as He Who Must Not Be Named, and no one has asked. I think some of the regulars just assume because they know from the old days that we used to kayak together. https://www.facebook.com/john.kuthe.39 It'd be funny if it was someone from rfc who made the page.
> >
> > --Bryan
> >
> I'm wondering if you still have an old flickering flame for kuth?
> You both seem unable to let go. It must have been a powerful
> experience for both of you.

It was obviously more powerful for him. To me, it was just a casual friendship. We'd had a couple of other falling outs. The last time was before he was married, and his GF (later wife) convinced him that it wasn't good for him to hold a grudge, because we had other friends in common. There were stretches of years where we didn't have anything to do with each other, just because we were both doing different things. We both posted to alt.punk, and he started getting really weird there around 2007, and I mean weird even for him. Here's an example: https://groups.google.com/g/alt.punk...m/FVpRSa2MrwUJ

It wasn't until he went overboard and started outright attacking me on the NG with his "narcissistic..." crap that he became my enemy. John seems to blame me for much of his disfunctionality, like I was some kind of villain. You want there to be more drama than that, but that's it. We went on one vacation together because we both liked kayaking, though for me it was more casual. John was, and maybe still is very skilled at kayaking, and we paddled water way above my competency, but the overwhelming majority of our interactions were on Usenet.
>
> Maybe you could use that for your next novel.

I don't *write novels*. I wrote one book, and began the prequel even before finishing the first. Prior to that, I'd never written as much as a page of fiction in my wife. John isn't interesting, just oddball, and while he felt that I played a big role in his life, he played a minor one in mine, and while my life has been eventful, any sort of memoir would be very boring.. My book, however, is not boring. You should endeavor to read it. It's awfully well written, the best thing I've ever done. It's clever and funny, but best described as a *literary romantic comedy*. Literary and romantic comedy are pretty much mutually exclusive in novels. While there is a mystery, there are no murders. There are no inspiring dogs, no violence, no conniving, backbiting women, and while sex is pervasive, it's lacking in erotica. No bodices are ripped, and no women are seduced by dukes or princes.. While it's heavy in character development, and there are emotional crises, it relies mostly on dialogue, with little flowery descriptions of setting. It bears little resemblance to throwaway fiction of the sort that successful throwaway fiction authors fill pages with. It's Brautiganesque in seaming together comedy and tragedy, and at the same time a throwback to the novels of DH Lawrence.

Ophelia wrote:
My husband, who is a writer read your first chapter and commented "He is
a very good writer, funny, but not my style of storyline

The first chapter takes place in a strip club, where a recent widower meets a young woman on her first and only evening of working there. She did it on a lark, and he was there for a fix of female anatomy. In less than 13 months, lives are changed. You won't read it. No one here will. Genre fiction is easy and safe. My book is not safe. Sweetness can be cruel. Truth is painful. https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/brya...-176j5weg.html It's free of monetary cost, but money isn't everything.

--Bryan

On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 4:15:50 PM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:

> The other thing a search brings up is a Facebook page somebody made making fun of him. John is disliked by a lot of people. There's a FB page where I refer to him as He Who Must Not Be Named, and no one has asked. I think some of the regulars just assume because they know from the old days that we used to kayak together. https://www.facebook.com/john.kuthe.39 It'd be funny if it was someone from rfc who made the page.
>
> --Bryan

Probably, because that Face**** page is definitely NOT MINE!

And YES we used to kayak together, and did extremely enjoyable things like the Naked Hippie Floats we used to do too! :-)

John Kuthe...

On 02:25 4 Sep 2020, John Kuthe said:
>
> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 4:15:50 PM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
>> The other thing a search brings up is a Facebook page somebody made
>> making fun of him. John is disliked by a lot of people. There's a FB
>> page where I refer to him as He Who Must Not Be Named, and no one has
>> asked. I think some of the regulars just assume because they know from
>> the old days that we used to kayak together.
>> https://www.facebook.com/john.kuthe.39 It'd be funny if it was someone
>> from rfc who made the page.
>>
>> --Bryan
>
> Probably, because that Face**** page is definitely NOT MINE!
>
> And YES we used to kayak together, and did extremely enjoyable things
> like the Naked Hippie Floats we used to do too! :-)
>
> John Kuthe...

What made Bryan become so bitter?

John Kuthe wrote:
> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 11:49:49 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> on 9/3/2020, John Kuthe whined like a little bitch :
>>> https://i.postimg.cc/kuthe.is.****ed.in.the.head
>>>
>> STFU, idiot.
> Thanks Asshole!
>
> Prettiest little 2008 Grand Caravan YOU ever saw! And she's made up into a Kayaking and Camping vehicle! Those are Yakima racks with an inner steel tube in the crossbars to make them more rigid and one of the best sound systems YOU have ever heard! With two Alpine amplifiers (one 5 way 100Wx500W and one 75W to the front dash speakers) and an Alpine DSP unit on their inputs set up for Active EQ! Four 100W 6x9 Alpine door speakers set up to act as well sealed and sound dampened speaker cabinets, two 5.25" two way PHD audiophile speakers in the dash with separate tweeters in pods off the A-frame pillars next to the inside of the windshield and a 12"slim line woofer in a wood cabinet under my butt!
>
> Kicks ass too! But uses gasoline so I drive it only when necessary!
>
> John Kuthe...
>
>
>
>
>

Like when you go to eat meat?

On 9/3/2020 1:08 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 11:49:49 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> on 9/3/2020, John Kuthe whined like a little bitch :
>>>
>> STFU, idiot.
>
> Thanks Asshole!
>
(snipped a bunch of BORING crap)>
> John Kuthe...

Hey Mr. Computer Engineer, Dave didn't write that.

Jill

On 2020-09-05 10:34 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 9/3/2020 1:08 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 11:49:49 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> on 9/3/2020, John Kuthe whined like a little bitch :
>>>>
>>> STFU, idiot.
>>
>> Thanks Asshole!
>>
> (snipped a bunch of BORING crap)>
>> John Kuthe...
>
> Hey Mr. Computer Engineer, Dave didn't write that.
>
>

Right you are. One of our resident nymshifting idiots posted that. It
was pretty easy to spot and I didn't think that anyone was dumb enough
to think it had been me.

He seems to be making a heck of a fuss over his soccer mom vehicle.

On 9/5/2020 11:27 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-09-05 10:34 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 9/3/2020 1:08 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 11:49:49 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> on 9/3/2020, John Kuthe whined like a little bitch :
>>>>>
>>>> STFU, idiot.
>>>
>>> Thanks Asshole!
>>>
>> (snipped a bunch of BORING crap)>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>
>> Hey Mr. Computer Engineer, Dave didn't write that.
>>
>>
>
> Right you are. One of our resident nymshifting idiots posted that. It
> was pretty easy to spot and I didn't think that anyone was dumb enough
> to think it had been me.
>
It's our resident forger, posting via AIOE. Apparent shifted from
cshenk and me to you now.

> He seems to be making a heck of a fuss over his soccer mom vehicle.
>
Just another LOOK AT ME post.

I think we should ALL start taking pictures of ridiculous stuff. I could
post a picture of my toilet! We could overwhelm the newgroup with
images of mundane bullshit that no one really cares about. Oh wait,
that's already happening. I wish no one had ever told him about
postimage. <sigh>

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
> I think we should ALL start taking pictures of ridiculous stuff. I could
> post a picture of my toilet!

Best to take the pic before you flush it. That would work.