BBQ Sloppy Joes on my Signature hot dog buns (less sloppy) with home
made giardiniera and semi-home made spicy sweet kettle chips.

https://i.postimg.cc/3wkxRSkB/Sloopy...iardiniera.jpg

The spicy giardiniera instead of pickles will be a permanent fixture
on top of my Joes. 10/10!

-sw

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 6:36:23 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> BBQ Sloppy Joes on my Signature hot dog buns (less sloppy) with home
> made giardiniera and semi-home made spicy sweet kettle chips.
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/3wkxRSkB/Sloopy...iardiniera.jpg
>
> The spicy giardiniera instead of pickles will be a permanent fixture
> on top of my Joes. 10/10!
>
> -sw
>
You keep the toppings and I'll take the rest. Sounds like a fair trade
to me.

;o))

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 16:39:13 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 6:36:23 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> BBQ Sloppy Joes on my Signature hot dog buns (less sloppy) with home
>> made giardiniera and semi-home made spicy sweet kettle chips.
>>
>> https://i.postimg.cc/3wkxRSkB/Sloopy...iardiniera.jpg
>>
>> The spicy giardiniera instead of pickles will be a permanent fixture
>> on top of my Joes. 10/10!
>>
> You keep the toppings and I'll take the rest. Sounds like a fair trade
> to me.

NO SUBSTITUTIONS. Especially for YOU! :-P

-sw

On 8/30/2020 4:36 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> BBQ Sloppy Joes on my Signature hot dog buns (less sloppy) with home
> made giardiniera and semi-home made spicy sweet kettle chips.
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/3wkxRSkB/Sloopy...iardiniera.jpg
>
> The spicy giardiniera instead of pickles will be a permanent fixture
> on top of my Joes. 10/10!
>
> -sw
>


Looks messy. LOL.

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:11:20 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> wrote:

>On 8/30/2020 4:36 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> BBQ Sloppy Joes on my Signature hot dog buns (less sloppy) with home
>> made giardiniera and semi-home made spicy sweet kettle chips.
>>
>> https://i.postimg.cc/3wkxRSkB/Sloopy...iardiniera.jpg
>>
>> The spicy giardiniera instead of pickles will be a permanent fixture
>> on top of my Joes. 10/10!
>>
>> -sw
>
>Looks messy. LOL.

I'll always find it strange to add chips/crisps to a meal, but even
more so when it's already carb heavy from the bread.

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 6:50:09 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 16:39:13 -0700 (PDT),
> wrote:
>
> > You keep the toppings and I'll take the rest. Sounds like a fair trade
> > to me.
>
> NO SUBSTITUTIONS. Especially for YOU! :-P
>
> -sw
>
Meanie!!

)~

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 18:36:17 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>BBQ Sloppy Joes on my Signature hot dog buns (less sloppy) with home
>made giardiniera and semi-home made spicy sweet kettle chips.
>
>https://i.postimg.cc/3wkxRSkB/Sloopy...iardiniera.jpg
>
>The spicy giardiniera instead of pickles will be a permanent fixture
>on top of my Joes. 10/10!
>
>-sw

I would try it since the giardinera is a topping . I don't think I
would like it mixed in.

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 7:50:09 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 16:39:13 -0700 (PDT),
> wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 6:36:23 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>
> >> BBQ Sloppy Joes on my Signature hot dog buns (less sloppy) with home
> >> made giardiniera and semi-home made spicy sweet kettle chips.
> >>
> >> https://i.postimg.cc/3wkxRSkB/Sloopy...iardiniera.jpg
> >>
> >> The spicy giardiniera instead of pickles will be a permanent fixture
> >> on top of my Joes. 10/10!
> >>
> > You keep the toppings and I'll take the rest. Sounds like a fair trade
> > to me.
> NO SUBSTITUTIONS. Especially for YOU! :-P
>
> -sw

Then I'll scrape off the giardiniera myself. No pickles or anything on my
sloppy joes.

My husband adds a slice of American cheese, but I think they're perfect
plain.

Cindy Hamilton

Bruce wrote:
>
> I'll always find it strange to add chips/crisps to a meal, but even
> more so when it's already carb heavy from the bread.

Fine to have a carb heavy meal. Just make your other meals
with less carbs. That works on a daily menu unless you're
diabetic.

Still though...nothing wrong with complex carbs as long as you
eat enough protein and fat too.

I think carbs got a bad wrap talking about simple sugars in
all the fatty desserts that many overindulge in.

On 01:27 31 Aug 2020, Bruce said:

> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:11:20 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> > wrote:
>
>>On 8/30/2020 4:36 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> BBQ Sloppy Joes on my Signature hot dog buns (less sloppy) with home
>>> made giardiniera and semi-home made spicy sweet kettle chips.
>>>
>>> https://i.postimg.cc/3wkxRSkB/Sloopy...iardiniera.jpg
>>>
>>> The spicy giardiniera instead of pickles will be a permanent fixture
>>> on top of my Joes. 10/10!
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>>Looks messy. LOL.
>
> I'll always find it strange to add chips/crisps to a meal, but even
> more so when it's already carb heavy from the bread.

Crisp (US: chips) sandwiches are quite common in the UK, although I've never
understood their attraction.

I used to think only children made them, perhaps as an experiment, but adults
do too. To me, it's like having a cornflake sandwich.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisp_sandwich

On 8/30/2020 5:27 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:11:20 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> > wrote:
>
>> On 8/30/2020 4:36 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> BBQ Sloppy Joes on my Signature hot dog buns (less sloppy) with home
>>> made giardiniera and semi-home made spicy sweet kettle chips.
>>>
>>> https://i.postimg.cc/3wkxRSkB/Sloopy...iardiniera.jpg
>>>
>>> The spicy giardiniera instead of pickles will be a permanent fixture
>>> on top of my Joes. 10/10!
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> Looks messy. LOL.
>
> I'll always find it strange to add chips/crisps to a meal, but even
> more so when it's already carb heavy from the bread.
>


They cleanse the palate.

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 08:45:35 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> I'll always find it strange to add chips/crisps to a meal, but even
>> more so when it's already carb heavy from the bread.
>
>Fine to have a carb heavy meal. Just make your other meals
>with less carbs. That works on a daily menu unless you're
>diabetic.
>
>Still though...nothing wrong with complex carbs as long as you
>eat enough protein and fat too.
>
>I think carbs got a bad wrap talking about simple sugars in
>all the fatty desserts that many overindulge in.

I'm not afraid of carbs but I don't need chips/crisps AND a bun, or
even both buns. Actually, I don't need a beer snack in my dinner at
all.

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 18:09:29 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 01:27 31 Aug 2020, Bruce said:
>
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:11:20 -0700, Taxed and Spent
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>Looks messy. LOL.
>>
>> I'll always find it strange to add chips/crisps to a meal, but even
>> more so when it's already carb heavy from the bread.
>
>Crisp (US: chips) sandwiches are quite common in the UK, although I've never
>understood their attraction.
>
>I used to think only children made them, perhaps as an experiment, but adults
>do too. To me, it's like having a cornflake sandwich.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisp_sandwich

I bet they eat it a lot in Coronation Street.

On Monday, August 31, 2020 at 7:09:57 AM UTC-10, Pamela wrote:
> On 01:27 31 Aug 2020, Bruce said:
>
> > On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:11:20 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>On 8/30/2020 4:36 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>> BBQ Sloppy Joes on my Signature hot dog buns (less sloppy) with home
> >>> made giardiniera and semi-home made spicy sweet kettle chips.
> >>>
> >>> https://i.postimg.cc/3wkxRSkB/Sloopy...iardiniera.jpg
> >>>
> >>> The spicy giardiniera instead of pickles will be a permanent fixture
> >>> on top of my Joes. 10/10!
> >>>
> >>> -sw
> >>
> >>Looks messy. LOL.
> >
> > I'll always find it strange to add chips/crisps to a meal, but even
> > more so when it's already carb heavy from the bread.
>
> Crisp (US: chips) sandwiches are quite common in the UK, although I've never
> understood their attraction.
>
> I used to think only children made them, perhaps as an experiment, but adults
> do too. To me, it's like having a cornflake sandwich.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisp_sandwich

I like to put crisps in tuna sandwich and chips in hamburger sandwiches. This makes the sandwiches a bit less boring. Putting some fries in a sad McDonald's burger is probably the most exciting thing one can do.

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 02:49:42 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 7:50:09 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 16:39:13 -0700 (PDT),
>> wrote:
>>> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 6:36:23 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> BBQ Sloppy Joes on my Signature hot dog buns (less sloppy) with home
>>>> made giardiniera and semi-home made spicy sweet kettle chips.
>>>>
>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/3wkxRSkB/Sloopy...iardiniera.jpg
>>>>
>>>> The spicy giardiniera instead of pickles will be a permanent fixture
>>>> on top of my Joes. 10/10!
>>>>
>>> You keep the toppings and I'll take the rest. Sounds like a fair trade
>>> to me.
>> NO SUBSTITUTIONS. Especially for YOU! :-P
>
> Then I'll scrape off the giardiniera myself. No pickles or anything on my
> sloppy joes.

You ladies don't get it.

You don't get to customize WTF I'm eating. You don't like it, cook
your own shit, describe it, and optionally post the pictures.

In the last 3 weeks I've cooked 3 dishes that were mentioned here
within 3 hours of my reading them. I credited all the posters for
the inspiration and didn't **** and moan about any of the
ingredients or how I'd do it differently. I just DID IT. I'm the
most interactive person here - food or otherwise.

And you keyboard cowgirls thin you get to virtually 'scrape off'
parts of what I'm eating and posting?

WTF is wrong with you bitches?

Can I get a high-five Gary or am I too late this morning?

-sw

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 11:56:42 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:

> On 8/30/2020 5:27 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:11:20 -0700, Taxed and Spent
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/30/2020 4:36 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> BBQ Sloppy Joes on my Signature hot dog buns (less sloppy) with home
>>>> made giardiniera and semi-home made spicy sweet kettle chips.
>>>>
>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/3wkxRSkB/Sloopy...iardiniera.jpg
>>>>
>>>> The spicy giardiniera instead of pickles will be a permanent fixture
>>>> on top of my Joes. 10/10!
>>>
>>> Looks messy. LOL.
>>
>> I'll always find it strange to add chips/crisps to a meal, but even
>> more so when it's already carb heavy from the bread.
>>
>
> They cleanse the palate.

Remember that Brucella was flabbergasted that I posted spaghetti
with garlic bread a few years ago and it took him 400 followups to
get his culinary ass kicked.

-sw

> I would try it since the giardinera is a topping . I don't think I
> would like it mixed in.

You said you were going to try my giardiniera recipe.... I stand by
that one. But I'd like to retract that recipe that had cream cheese
in it FWIW.

-sw

On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 05:53:17 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>You ladies don't get it.
>
>You don't get to customize WTF I'm eating. You don't like it, cook
>your own shit, describe it, and optionally post the pictures.

"But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem
that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism." (Sqwertz)

>In the last 3 weeks I've cooked 3 dishes that were mentioned here
>within 3 hours of my reading them. I credited all the posters for
>the inspiration and didn't **** and moan about any of the
>ingredients or how I'd do it differently. I just DID IT. I'm the
>most interactive person here - food or otherwise.

"But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem
that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism." (Sqwertz)

>And you keyboard cowgirls thin you get to virtually 'scrape off'
>parts of what I'm eating and posting?
>
>WTF is wrong with you bitches?

"But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem
that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism." (Sqwertz)

On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 05:57:16 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 11:56:42 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
>> On 8/30/2020 5:27 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:11:20 -0700, Taxed and Spent
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/30/2020 4:36 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>> BBQ Sloppy Joes on my Signature hot dog buns (less sloppy) with home
>>>>> made giardiniera and semi-home made spicy sweet kettle chips.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/3wkxRSkB/Sloopy...iardiniera.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> The spicy giardiniera instead of pickles will be a permanent fixture
>>>>> on top of my Joes. 10/10!
>>>>
>>>> Looks messy. LOL.
>>>
>>> I'll always find it strange to add chips/crisps to a meal, but even
>>> more so when it's already carb heavy from the bread.
>>>
>>
>> They cleanse the palate.
>
>Remember that Brucella was flabbergasted that I posted spaghetti
>with garlic bread a few years ago and it took him 400 followups to
>get his culinary ass kicked.

"But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem
that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism." (Sqwertz)

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 02:49:42 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 7:50:09 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
> >> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 16:39:13 -0700 (PDT),
> >> wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 6:36:23 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> BBQ Sloppy Joes on my Signature hot dog buns (less sloppy) with home
> >>>> made giardiniera and semi-home made spicy sweet kettle chips.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://i.postimg.cc/3wkxRSkB/Sloopy...iardiniera.jpg
> >>>>
> >>>> The spicy giardiniera instead of pickles will be a permanent fixture
> >>>> on top of my Joes. 10/10!
> >>>>
> >>> You keep the toppings and I'll take the rest. Sounds like a fair trade
> >>> to me.
> >> NO SUBSTITUTIONS. Especially for YOU! :-P
> >
> > Then I'll scrape off the giardiniera myself. No pickles or anything on my
> > sloppy joes.
>
> You ladies don't get it.
>
> You don't get to customize WTF I'm eating. You don't like it, cook
> your own shit, describe it, and optionally post the pictures.
>
> In the last 3 weeks I've cooked 3 dishes that were mentioned here
> within 3 hours of my reading them. I credited all the posters for
> the inspiration and didn't **** and moan about any of the
> ingredients or how I'd do it differently. I just DID IT. I'm the
> most interactive person here - food or otherwise.
>
> And you keyboard cowgirls thin you get to virtually 'scrape off'
> parts of what I'm eating and posting?
>
> WTF is wrong with you bitches?
>
> Can I get a high-five Gary or am I too late this morning?

It's only a little after 7am here. Not too late for me.
I agree that you are the best (and most active) cook here.
Often different dishes and often with pictures.

I often watch the "Beat Bobby Flay" show and I seriously
think you could maybe win. Yes, you hate him as he's so
arrogant...and he is. But so are you. heheh

That said, you would have a good chance to win. Your
dishes have that extra everything just like his has.

And no, I'm not sucking up to you but I'll give credit
where credit is due.

On 11:57 1 Sep 2020, Sqwertz said:

> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 11:56:42 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
>> On 8/30/2020 5:27 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:11:20 -0700, Taxed and Spent
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/30/2020 4:36 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>> BBQ Sloppy Joes on my Signature hot dog buns (less sloppy) with home
>>>>> made giardiniera and semi-home made spicy sweet kettle chips.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/3wkxRSkB/Sloopy...iardiniera.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> The spicy giardiniera instead of pickles will be a permanent fixture
>>>>> on top of my Joes. 10/10!
>>>>
>>>> Looks messy. LOL.
>>>
>>> I'll always find it strange to add chips/crisps to a meal, but even
>>> more so when it's already carb heavy from the bread.
>>>
>>
>> They cleanse the palate.
>
> Remember that Brucella was flabbergasted that I posted spaghetti
> with garlic bread a few years ago and it took him 400 followups to
> get his culinary ass kicked.

Translation: despite your best efforts at wearing Brucella down, you got
shown the door even though it took many posts.

For what it's worth, spaghetti with garlic bread is a folly. Why can't you
use your sense of taste -- rather than rely on your addled brain attempting
to work out ways to make you look good?

Pamela wrote:
>
> For what it's worth, spaghetti with garlic bread is a folly.

Oh please spare us. For a cooking group, we sure do have more
than our share of finicky tastes.

On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 9:53:23 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Pamela wrote:
> >
> > For what it's worth, spaghetti with garlic bread is a folly.
> Oh please spare us. For a cooking group, we sure do have more
> than our share of finicky tastes.

Spaghetti with garlic bread is delicious. It's just not good for me to eat
so much carb.

Lately I've been having cauliflower florets with spaghetti sauce on them.
Tasty and righteous.

Cindy Hamilton

On 15:33 1 Sep 2020, Cindy Hamilton said:

> On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 9:53:23 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> Pamela wrote:
>> >
>> > For what it's worth, spaghetti with garlic bread is a folly.
>> Oh please spare us. For a cooking group, we sure do have more
>> than our share of finicky tastes.
>
> Spaghetti with garlic bread is delicious. It's just not good for me to eat
> so much carb.

Howdo you physically eat spaghetti with garlic bread? Maybe you mean cut up
spaghetti, which I don't consider spaghetti at all.

American spaghetti with meatballs is bad enough

> Lately I've been having cauliflower florets with spaghetti sauce on them.
> Tasty and righteous.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

What's "spaghetti sauce"?

On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 10:46:32 AM UTC-4, Pamela wrote:
> On 15:33 1 Sep 2020, Cindy Hamilton said:
>
> > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 9:53:23 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >> Pamela wrote:
> >> >
> >> > For what it's worth, spaghetti with garlic bread is a folly.
> >> Oh please spare us. For a cooking group, we sure do have more
> >> than our share of finicky tastes.
> >
> > Spaghetti with garlic bread is delicious. It's just not good for me to eat
> > so much carb.
> Howdo you physically eat spaghetti with garlic bread? Maybe you mean cut up
> spaghetti, which I don't consider spaghetti at all.

Not simultaneously. A bite of spaghetti then a bite of garlic bread. The same
way one would eat spaghetti with a vegetable side dish.

> American spaghetti with meatballs is bad enough
> > Lately I've been having cauliflower florets with spaghetti sauce on them.
> > Tasty and righteous.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> What's "spaghetti sauce"?

Marinara or sugo.

Cindy Hamilton

On 16:17 1 Sep 2020, Cindy Hamilton said:

> On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 10:46:32 AM UTC-4, Pamela wrote:
>> On 15:33 1 Sep 2020, Cindy Hamilton said:
>>
>> > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 9:53:23 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> >> Pamela wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > For what it's worth, spaghetti with garlic bread is a folly.
>> >> Oh please spare us. For a cooking group, we sure do have more
>> >> than our share of finicky tastes.
>> >
>> > Spaghetti with garlic bread is delicious. It's just not good for me
>> > to eat so much carb.
>> Howdo you physically eat spaghetti with garlic bread? Maybe you mean
>> cut up spaghetti, which I don't consider spaghetti at all.
>
> Not simultaneously. A bite of spaghetti then a bite of garlic bread.
> The same way one would eat spaghetti with a vegetable side dish.
>
>> American spaghetti with meatballs is bad enough
>> > Lately I've been having cauliflower florets with spaghetti sauce on
>> > them. Tasty and righteous.
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>> What's "spaghetti sauce"?
>
> Marinara or sugo.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

When you write "spaghetti sauce" it doesn't specify any particular
sauce. Also one of the types you gave ("sugo") is a generic term.

I'm still trying to visualise "spaghetti sauce" on cauliflower.

On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 05:59:32 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>
>> I would try it since the giardinera is a topping . I don't think I
>> would like it mixed in.
>
>You said you were going to try my giardiniera recipe.... I stand by
>that one. But I'd like to retract that recipe that had cream cheese
>in it FWIW.
>
>-sw

I did try it and it was too spicy for me. Recently everything has
become too hurtful for my tongue. I just gave away a jar of spicy
dill pickles. My own pico de gallo bit me this week. I have a
wonderful crop of jalapenos from my potted plants, probably a half
bushel of them. I don't know if I should keep them or give them all
away.
What did you substitute for the cream cheese?
Janet US

On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 11:35:19 AM UTC-4, Pamela wrote:
> On 16:17 1 Sep 2020, Cindy Hamilton said:
>
> > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 10:46:32 AM UTC-4, Pamela wrote:
> >> On 15:33 1 Sep 2020, Cindy Hamilton said:
> >>
> >> > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 9:53:23 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >> >> Pamela wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > For what it's worth, spaghetti with garlic bread is a folly.
> >> >> Oh please spare us. For a cooking group, we sure do have more
> >> >> than our share of finicky tastes.
> >> >
> >> > Spaghetti with garlic bread is delicious. It's just not good for me
> >> > to eat so much carb.
> >> Howdo you physically eat spaghetti with garlic bread? Maybe you mean
> >> cut up spaghetti, which I don't consider spaghetti at all.
> >
> > Not simultaneously. A bite of spaghetti then a bite of garlic bread.
> > The same way one would eat spaghetti with a vegetable side dish.
> >
> >> American spaghetti with meatballs is bad enough
> >> > Lately I've been having cauliflower florets with spaghetti sauce on
> >> > them. Tasty and righteous.
> >> >
> >> > Cindy Hamilton
> >> What's "spaghetti sauce"?
> >
> > Marinara or sugo.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> When you write "spaghetti sauce" it doesn't specify any particular
> sauce.

It's an American term. Everybody here who's from the U.S. knows what I mean.

> Also one of the types you gave ("sugo") is a generic term.

Sugo rosso, then. Or Sugo di Pomodoro, if you prefer. It could be ragu,
but we don't typically use meat in our sauce.

> I'm still trying to visualise "spaghetti sauce" on cauliflower.

Picture cauliflower, steamed to the tender-crisp stage, only red.

Cauliflower has a rather mild flavor. It takes on the flavor of the sauce,
in this case.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2020-09-01 7:53 a.m., Gary wrote:
> Pamela wrote:
>>
>> For what it's worth, spaghetti with garlic bread is a folly.
>
> Oh please spare us. For a cooking group, we sure do have more
> than our share of finicky tastes.
>
Have you tried Heinz canned spaghetti on toast? That's a nursery favourite!

On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 4:46:32 AM UTC-10, Pamela wrote:
> On 15:33 1 Sep 2020, Cindy Hamilton said:
>
> > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 9:53:23 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >> Pamela wrote:
> >> >
> >> > For what it's worth, spaghetti with garlic bread is a folly.
> >> Oh please spare us. For a cooking group, we sure do have more
> >> than our share of finicky tastes.
> >
> > Spaghetti with garlic bread is delicious. It's just not good for me to eat
> > so much carb.
>
> Howdo you physically eat spaghetti with garlic bread? Maybe you mean cut up
> spaghetti, which I don't consider spaghetti at all.
>
> American spaghetti with meatballs is bad enough
>
> > Lately I've been having cauliflower florets with spaghetti sauce on them.
> > Tasty and righteous.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> What's "spaghetti sauce"?

In the US, one can buy cans and jars of spaghetti sauce. It must be quite a competitive market because spaghetti sauce occupies much shelf space in the supermarkets. One can even buy Filipino spaghetti sauce in plastic bags. I've never tasted it but it's supposed to be very sweet.

Americans like to eat spaghetti with meat sauce and garlic bread. In Hawaii, you might also find a scoop of macaroni salad. The Filipinos like to eat their spaghetti with fried chicken. The people on this rock have adopted this Italian-American, Filipino, Hawaiian, mash-up in a single plate.

https://www.zippys.com/wp-content/up...Clipped-01.png

On 17:58 1 Sep 2020, Cindy Hamilton said:

> On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 11:35:19 AM UTC-4, Pamela wrote:
>> On 16:17 1 Sep 2020, Cindy Hamilton said:
>>
>> > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 10:46:32 AM UTC-4, Pamela wrote:
>> >> On 15:33 1 Sep 2020, Cindy Hamilton said:
>> >>
>> >> > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 9:53:23 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> >> >> Pamela wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > For what it's worth, spaghetti with garlic bread is a folly.
>> >> >> Oh please spare us. For a cooking group, we sure do have more
>> >> >> than our share of finicky tastes.
>> >> >
>> >> > Spaghetti with garlic bread is delicious. It's just not good for
>> >> > me to eat so much carb.
>> >> Howdo you physically eat spaghetti with garlic bread? Maybe you mean
>> >> cut up spaghetti, which I don't consider spaghetti at all.
>> >
>> > Not simultaneously. A bite of spaghetti then a bite of garlic bread.
>> > The same way one would eat spaghetti with a vegetable side dish.
>> >
>> >> American spaghetti with meatballs is bad enough
>> >> > Lately I've been having cauliflower florets with spaghetti sauce
>> >> > on them. Tasty and righteous.
>> >> >
>> >> > Cindy Hamilton
>> >> What's "spaghetti sauce"?
>> >
>> > Marinara or sugo.
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>> When you write "spaghetti sauce" it doesn't specify any particular
>> sauce.
>
> It's an American term. Everybody here who's from the U.S. knows what I
> mean.
>
>> Also one of the types you gave ("sugo") is a generic term.
>
> Sugo rosso, then. Or Sugo di Pomodoro, if you prefer. It could be
> ragu, but we don't typically use meat in our sauce.
>
>> I'm still trying to visualise "spaghetti sauce" on cauliflower.
>
> Picture cauliflower, steamed to the tender-crisp stage, only red.
>
> Cauliflower has a rather mild flavor. It takes on the flavor of the
> sauce, in this case.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

So "spaghetti sauce" in America is another name for tomato sauce which is
also called "marinara sauce"? That's an interesting use of terms I
haven't met before. I'm more familiar with the Italian meaning and, of
course, British meaning.

On 18:29 1 Sep 2020, dsi1 said:

> On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 4:46:32 AM UTC-10, Pamela wrote:
>> On 15:33 1 Sep 2020, Cindy Hamilton said:
>>
>> > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 9:53:23 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> >> Pamela wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > For what it's worth, spaghetti with garlic bread is a folly.
>> >> Oh please spare us. For a cooking group, we sure do have more
>> >> than our share of finicky tastes.
>> >
>> > Spaghetti with garlic bread is delicious. It's just not good for me
>> > to eat so much carb.
>>
>> Howdo you physically eat spaghetti with garlic bread? Maybe you mean
>> cut up spaghetti, which I don't consider spaghetti at all.
>>
>> American spaghetti with meatballs is bad enough
>>
>> > Lately I've been having cauliflower florets with spaghetti sauce on
>> > them.
>> > Tasty and righteous.
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> What's "spaghetti sauce"?
>
> In the US, one can buy cans and jars of spaghetti sauce. It must be
> quite a competitive market because spaghetti sauce occupies much shelf
> space in the supermarkets. One can even buy Filipino spaghetti sauce in
> plastic bags. I've never tasted it but it's supposed to be very sweet.

Okay, that's an new Americanism for me. It would have been clearer if it was
called "pasta sauce" because that's reflects its use. That explains why
Cindy equated it with "sugo".

> Americans like to eat spaghetti with meat sauce and garlic bread. In
> Hawaii, you might also find a scoop of macaroni salad. The Filipinos
> like to eat their spaghetti with fried chicken. The people on this rock
> have adopted this Italian-American, Filipino, Hawaiian, mash-up in a
> single plate.

I know Americans have a dish of spaghetti with meat balls but surely not
garlic bread. I guess anything's possible in a country that eats surf and
turf.

> https://www.zippys.com/wp-content/up...Spaghetti-and-
> Chicken-Mixed-Plate-Clipped-01.png

Pasta and chicken is a standing joke amongst Italians. They consider it as
bad as pineapple on pizza -- oops!

https://lucasitaly.com/2018/11/28/wh...chicken-pasta/

On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 8:44:52 AM UTC-10, Pamela wrote:
> On 17:58 1 Sep 2020, Cindy Hamilton said:
>
> > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 11:35:19 AM UTC-4, Pamela wrote:
> >> On 16:17 1 Sep 2020, Cindy Hamilton said:
> >>
> >> > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 10:46:32 AM UTC-4, Pamela wrote:
> >> >> On 15:33 1 Sep 2020, Cindy Hamilton said:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 9:53:23 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >> >> >> Pamela wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > For what it's worth, spaghetti with garlic bread is a folly.
> >> >> >> Oh please spare us. For a cooking group, we sure do have more
> >> >> >> than our share of finicky tastes.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Spaghetti with garlic bread is delicious. It's just not good for
> >> >> > me to eat so much carb.
> >> >> Howdo you physically eat spaghetti with garlic bread? Maybe you mean
> >> >> cut up spaghetti, which I don't consider spaghetti at all.
> >> >
> >> > Not simultaneously. A bite of spaghetti then a bite of garlic bread.
> >> > The same way one would eat spaghetti with a vegetable side dish.
> >> >
> >> >> American spaghetti with meatballs is bad enough
> >> >> > Lately I've been having cauliflower florets with spaghetti sauce
> >> >> > on them. Tasty and righteous.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Cindy Hamilton
> >> >> What's "spaghetti sauce"?
> >> >
> >> > Marinara or sugo.
> >> >
> >> > Cindy Hamilton
> >> When you write "spaghetti sauce" it doesn't specify any particular
> >> sauce.
> >
> > It's an American term. Everybody here who's from the U.S. knows what I
> > mean.
> >
> >> Also one of the types you gave ("sugo") is a generic term.
> >
> > Sugo rosso, then. Or Sugo di Pomodoro, if you prefer. It could be
> > ragu, but we don't typically use meat in our sauce.
> >
> >> I'm still trying to visualise "spaghetti sauce" on cauliflower.
> >
> > Picture cauliflower, steamed to the tender-crisp stage, only red.
> >
> > Cauliflower has a rather mild flavor. It takes on the flavor of the
> > sauce, in this case.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> So "spaghetti sauce" in America is another name for tomato sauce which is
> also called "marinara sauce"? That's an interesting use of terms I
> haven't met before. I'm more familiar with the Italian meaning and, of
> course, British meaning.

My guess it's because spaghetti is more popular in America than in Europe. Most of the people in the boomer generation ate spaghetti with sauce from a can when they were growing up. This was a sweet and mushy spaghetti, perfect for kids. You would open a can, heat it up in a pan, maybe put some American cheese on top, dish it up and throw it at the brats. This would shut those animals up so you could work on some martinis. Mostly it was Chef Boyardee that gave Americans their fondness for the dish. The rest is history.

https://www.dollargeneral.com/media/...3/13130177.jpg

On Tue, 01 Sep 2020 10:53:16 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:

> On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 05:59:32 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>> I would try it since the giardinera is a topping . I don't think I
>>> would like it mixed in.
>>
>>You said you were going to try my giardiniera recipe.... I stand by
>>that one. But I'd like to retract that recipe that had cream cheese
>>in it FWIW.
>
> I did try it and it was too spicy for me.

Like I said, you can alter the variety of peppers to suit your heat
level.

I just bought enough stuff to make 1 48oz jar of it. I've
discovered that if you use a sweet-hot pickled peppers, such as my
sweet hot pickled serranos, it makes it even tastier. I also
pickled my own cauliflower for the mix.

Part of the giardiniera mix on those Joes is Marconi's from Cost
Plus. They carry a bunch of "cult favorite" foods and condiments.

> What did you substitute for the cream cheese?

Just regular cream and some corn starch.

-sw

On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 8:59:14 AM UTC-10, Pamela wrote:
> On 18:29 1 Sep 2020, dsi1 said:
>
> > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 4:46:32 AM UTC-10, Pamela wrote:
> >> On 15:33 1 Sep 2020, Cindy Hamilton said:
> >>
> >> > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 9:53:23 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >> >> Pamela wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > For what it's worth, spaghetti with garlic bread is a folly.
> >> >> Oh please spare us. For a cooking group, we sure do have more
> >> >> than our share of finicky tastes.
> >> >
> >> > Spaghetti with garlic bread is delicious. It's just not good for me
> >> > to eat so much carb.
> >>
> >> Howdo you physically eat spaghetti with garlic bread? Maybe you mean
> >> cut up spaghetti, which I don't consider spaghetti at all.
> >>
> >> American spaghetti with meatballs is bad enough
> >>
> >> > Lately I've been having cauliflower florets with spaghetti sauce on
> >> > them.
> >> > Tasty and righteous.
> >> >
> >> > Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >> What's "spaghetti sauce"?
> >
> > In the US, one can buy cans and jars of spaghetti sauce. It must be
> > quite a competitive market because spaghetti sauce occupies much shelf
> > space in the supermarkets. One can even buy Filipino spaghetti sauce in
> > plastic bags. I've never tasted it but it's supposed to be very sweet.
>
> Okay, that's an new Americanism for me. It would have been clearer if it was
> called "pasta sauce" because that's reflects its use. That explains why
> Cindy equated it with "sugo".
>
> > Americans like to eat spaghetti with meat sauce and garlic bread. In
> > Hawaii, you might also find a scoop of macaroni salad. The Filipinos
> > like to eat their spaghetti with fried chicken. The people on this rock
> > have adopted this Italian-American, Filipino, Hawaiian, mash-up in a
> > single plate.
>
> I know Americans have a dish of spaghetti with meat balls but surely not
> garlic bread. I guess anything's possible in a country that eats surf and
> turf.
>
> > https://www.zippys.com/wp-content/up...Spaghetti-and-
> > Chicken-Mixed-Plate-Clipped-01.png
>
> Pasta and chicken is a standing joke amongst Italians. They consider it as
> bad as pineapple on pizza -- oops!
>
> https://lucasitaly.com/2018/11/28/wh...chicken-pasta/

My son ordered some pizzas the other day. It was chicken with American style barbecue sauce and cheese. It's a popular pizza with the younger generation. I didn't have any because I wasn't hunger enough. I was hungry, just not enough. My guess is that the Italians would just plotz.

On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 2:44:52 PM UTC-4, Pamela wrote:
> On 17:58 1 Sep 2020, Cindy Hamilton said:
>
> > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 11:35:19 AM UTC-4, Pamela wrote:
> >> On 16:17 1 Sep 2020, Cindy Hamilton said:
> >>
> >> > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 10:46:32 AM UTC-4, Pamela wrote:
> >> >> On 15:33 1 Sep 2020, Cindy Hamilton said:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 9:53:23 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >> >> >> Pamela wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > For what it's worth, spaghetti with garlic bread is a folly.
> >> >> >> Oh please spare us. For a cooking group, we sure do have more
> >> >> >> than our share of finicky tastes.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Spaghetti with garlic bread is delicious. It's just not good for
> >> >> > me to eat so much carb.
> >> >> Howdo you physically eat spaghetti with garlic bread? Maybe you mean
> >> >> cut up spaghetti, which I don't consider spaghetti at all.
> >> >
> >> > Not simultaneously. A bite of spaghetti then a bite of garlic bread.
> >> > The same way one would eat spaghetti with a vegetable side dish.
> >> >
> >> >> American spaghetti with meatballs is bad enough
> >> >> > Lately I've been having cauliflower florets with spaghetti sauce
> >> >> > on them. Tasty and righteous.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Cindy Hamilton
> >> >> What's "spaghetti sauce"?
> >> >
> >> > Marinara or sugo.
> >> >
> >> > Cindy Hamilton
> >> When you write "spaghetti sauce" it doesn't specify any particular
> >> sauce.
> >
> > It's an American term. Everybody here who's from the U.S. knows what I
> > mean.
> >
> >> Also one of the types you gave ("sugo") is a generic term.
> >
> > Sugo rosso, then. Or Sugo di Pomodoro, if you prefer. It could be
> > ragu, but we don't typically use meat in our sauce.
> >
> >> I'm still trying to visualise "spaghetti sauce" on cauliflower.
> >
> > Picture cauliflower, steamed to the tender-crisp stage, only red.
> >
> > Cauliflower has a rather mild flavor. It takes on the flavor of the
> > sauce, in this case.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> So "spaghetti sauce" in America is another name for tomato sauce which is
> also called "marinara sauce"? That's an interesting use of terms I
> haven't met before. I'm more familiar with the Italian meaning and, of
> course, British meaning.

We use "tomato sauce" to refer to a canned product that is thinned-out tomato paste:

Tomato Puree (Water, Tomato Paste), Water, Less Then 2% Of: Citric Acid, Onion Powder, Garlic Powder, Red Pepper.

Frankly, I can't tell it has any flavorings in it.

I think our tomato paste corresponds to your concentrated tomato puree. It's very
thick. You can stand a fork up in it.

Marinara is a fairly quick-cooking, chunky tomato sauce.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2020-09-01 2:44 p.m., Pamela wrote:
> On 17:58 1 Sep 2020, Cindy Hamilton said:

>> Cauliflower has a rather mild flavor. It takes on the flavor of the
>> sauce, in this case.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> So "spaghetti sauce" in America is another name for tomato sauce which is
> also called "marinara sauce"? That's an interesting use of terms I
> haven't met before. I'm more familiar with the Italian meaning and, of
> course, British meaning.
>
I would say that it is the common name used for tomato sauce, though
Marinara is really only tomato sauce with few ingredients, like onion,
garlic and herbs. Add meat or other vegetables to it and you have
spaghetti sauce.

On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 9:11:06 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-09-01 2:44 p.m., Pamela wrote:
> > On 17:58 1 Sep 2020, Cindy Hamilton said:
>
> >> Cauliflower has a rather mild flavor. It takes on the flavor of the
> >> sauce, in this case.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > So "spaghetti sauce" in America is another name for tomato sauce which is
> > also called "marinara sauce"? That's an interesting use of terms I
> > haven't met before. I'm more familiar with the Italian meaning and, of
> > course, British meaning.
> >
> I would say that it is the common name used for tomato sauce, though
> Marinara is really only tomato sauce with few ingredients, like onion,
> garlic and herbs. Add meat or other vegetables to it and you have
> spaghetti sauce.

I can make a spaghetti sauce in a couple of minutes. Dump cans of tomatoes in a pan, add some dehydrated onions and a some warehouse club spaghetti sauce mix, a big hit of MSG, and maybe some ketchup and/or oyster sauce. Cook that stuff until it's done. Oh boy!

https://www.samsclub.com/p/italian-s...z/prod20321327

On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 11:08:48 -0600, graham wrote:

> On 2020-09-01 7:53 a.m., Gary wrote:
>> Pamela wrote:
>>>
>>> For what it's worth, spaghetti with garlic bread is a folly.
>>
>> Oh please spare us. For a cooking group, we sure do have more
>> than our share of finicky tastes.
>>
> Have you tried Heinz canned spaghetti on toast? That's a nursery favourite!

Heinz spaghetti is $3/can here when you can make about 4 pounds of
it for $2.50 or so.

I always have a few cans of Chefboyardee in the pantry, including
the spaghetti and meatballs. $.88/can ($.69/can for the store
brand).

-sw

On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 14:09:52 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Tue, 01 Sep 2020 10:53:16 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 05:59:32 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> I would try it since the giardinera is a topping . I don't think I
>>>> would like it mixed in.
>>>
>>>You said you were going to try my giardiniera recipe.... I stand by
>>>that one. But I'd like to retract that recipe that had cream cheese
>>>in it FWIW.
>>
>> I did try it and it was too spicy for me.
>
>Like I said, you can alter the variety of peppers to suit your heat
>level.

I will do that the next time around. At the time I didn't realize I
had become so sensitive.
I made my pico de gallo with Fresno peppers (red) and let the sauce
sit in the fridge overnight.. Ouch for me.
>
snip
>
>-sw