"Gary" wrote in message ...

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 11:50:55 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> > >
> > > Silly "bun" remarks aside, you do know what a hamburger bun is, right?
> > > Who the heck puts kidney beans in sloppy joes?
> > And you all know me...simple tastes. A pound of cooked and
> > drained ground beast combined with a can of the original
> > "Manwich" is delicious. No need here to reinvent the wheel.
>
> "Manwich" is reinventing the wheel. Sloppy joes predated Manwich.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Manwich is a good can of flavor.

===

What are the ingredients? Is it possible to make it at home?

I looked for a can in the UK but i've never seen it!

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 7:11:44 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 04:14:33 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 12:02:19 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gary wrote:
> >>>>> > I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
> >>>>> > on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
> >>>>> > sandwich even sloppier.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
> >>>>
> >>>>Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
> >>>>
> >>>>> > Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
> >>>>> > with you about using a French of Italian bread.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
> >>>>
> >>>>That's just your diet eating I suspect.
> >>>
> >>>You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
> >>
> >>Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
> >
> >Did you just come back from church or something? That would explain
> >the sanctimonious bullshit. I'm only repeating what Cindy says
> >herself.
> No, I didn't. There's no reason for comments about race, physical
> disabilities, image issues and actually, someone's religion. Comments
> like that show a lack of empathy for fellow humans with a knowledge of
> what kind of comments really can hurt someone. If that makes me
> sanctimonious instead of caring, that's your problem.
> Janet US

Hey! I'm right here. I'm obese. I don't take offense at someone mentioning
it. I notice it every time I see my fat ass in a mirror.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 8:53:23 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 09:39:16 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:37:55 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 09:21:33 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:11:36 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
> >>>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 04:14:33 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 12:02:19 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
> >>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Gary wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> > I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
> >>>>>>>>> > on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
> >>>>>>>>> > sandwich even sloppier.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> > Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
> >>>>>>>>> > with you about using a French of Italian bread.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>That's just your diet eating I suspect.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Did you just come back from church or something? That would explain
> >>>>>the sanctimonious bullshit. I'm only repeating what Cindy says
> >>>>>herself.
> >>>>
> >>>>No, I didn't. There's no reason for comments about race, physical
> >>>>disabilities, image issues and actually, someone's religion. Comments
> >>>>like that show a lack of empathy for fellow humans with a knowledge of
> >>>>what kind of comments really can hurt someone. If that makes me
> >>>>sanctimonious instead of caring, that's your problem.
> >>>
> >>>Cindy's quite down to earth about it, but if she has a problem with
> >>>what I say, she can tell me.
> >>>
> >>>There's much nastier stuff going on here that I never ever hear you
> >>>about. You actually suck up to one of the nastiest people in RFC.
> >>>Hypocrite.
> >>
> >>I need a name, who do I suck up to? In my mind I am just responding
> >>or participating in a thread, so you'll have to tell me.
> >>OTOH, I do sometimes talk with you, is that who you mean?
> >>Janet US
> >
> >If you have to ask...
> I apologize, it just occurred to me that you really didn't understand
> that people (particularly women) will say something about themselves
> that they don't want to hear coming out of someone else's mouth.
> Often they will say something about themselves to take the sting out
> of what someone could say about them.
> It's like that old joke 'Dear, does this dress make me look fat?'
>
> Janet US

And my husband's response is: "No, your ass looks fat all on its own".

It's a little schtick we have.

FFS. I weigh 250 pounds. How could I think it was the pants?!!!

Cindy Hamilton

Hank Rogers wrote:
>
> Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 12:38:18 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> On 8/30/2020 11:50 AM, Gary wrote:
> >>> Taxed and Spent wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 8/30/2020 4:12 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 5:26:27 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >>>>>> Taxed and Spent wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 8/29/2020 4:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Made an Italian version of Sloppy Joe's tonight, Giuseppe Sciatto.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Used both sweet and hot Italian sausage meat, Bolognais sauce, a mix of
> >>>>>>>> Parmesan, Cheddar, Asiago cheese. Turned out rather well.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm sure other combinations will work too, vary according to your
> >>>>>>>> personal taste. We ate it on buns but would be good over pasta too.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Buns? French (or Italian) bread would have been the ticket.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> YUM!
> >>>>>> I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
> >>>>>> on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
> >>>>>> sandwich even sloppier.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Exactly.
> >>>>
> >>>> But even on a "bun", don't people use a fork at least?
> >>>
> >>> Come on...it's a sandwich. Do you eat a hamburger with a
> >>> knife and fork? The europeans probably do. All proper and stuff.
> >>>
> >> Fork is to eat what fall out when you pick up the sandwich. If nothing
> >> falls out, you didn't make it right.
> >
> > They're sloppy joes, not dainty joes. Just use your fingers.
> >
> > --Bryan
> >
>
> And don't forget to lick the plate.

That saves water too.

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 03:00:22 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 7:11:44 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 04:14:33 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 12:02:19 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Gary wrote:
>> >>>>> > I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>> >>>>> > on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>> >>>>> > sandwich even sloppier.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> > Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>> >>>>> > with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>That's just your diet eating I suspect.
>> >>>
>> >>>You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
>> >>
>> >>Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
>> >
>> >Did you just come back from church or something? That would explain
>> >the sanctimonious bullshit. I'm only repeating what Cindy says
>> >herself.
>> No, I didn't. There's no reason for comments about race, physical
>> disabilities, image issues and actually, someone's religion. Comments
>> like that show a lack of empathy for fellow humans with a knowledge of
>> what kind of comments really can hurt someone. If that makes me
>> sanctimonious instead of caring, that's your problem.
>> Janet US
>
>Hey! I'm right here. I'm obese. I don't take offense at someone mentioning
>it. I notice it every time I see my fat ass in a mirror.

Well, it's not like I met you in the street and cried out "You're
obese". I was going with what you said. But maybe you have body image
issues and you're really skinny in reality.

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 03:00:22 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 7:11:44 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 04:14:33 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 12:02:19 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Gary wrote:
>> >>>>> > I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>> >>>>> > on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>> >>>>> > sandwich even sloppier.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> > Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>> >>>>> > with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>That's just your diet eating I suspect.
>> >>>
>> >>>You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
>> >>
>> >>Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
>> >
>> >Did you just come back from church or something? That would explain
>> >the sanctimonious bullshit. I'm only repeating what Cindy says
>> >herself.
>> No, I didn't. There's no reason for comments about race, physical
>> disabilities, image issues and actually, someone's religion. Comments
>> like that show a lack of empathy for fellow humans with a knowledge of
>> what kind of comments really can hurt someone. If that makes me
>> sanctimonious instead of caring, that's your problem.
>> Janet US
>
>Hey! I'm right here. I'm obese. I don't take offense at someone
>mentioning
>it. I notice it every time I see my fat ass in a mirror.

Well, it's not like I met you in the street and cried out "You're
obese". I was going with what you said. But maybe you have body image
issues and you're really skinny in reality.

===

She might be tall too! I never judge!!!

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 11:46:54 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Bruce" wrote in message ...
>
>On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 03:00:22 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>
>>On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 7:11:44 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 04:14:33 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 12:02:19 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>>> >wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Gary wrote:
>>> >>>>> > I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>>> >>>>> > on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>>> >>>>> > sandwich even sloppier.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> > Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>>> >>>>> > with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>That's just your diet eating I suspect.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
>>> >>
>>> >>Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
>>> >
>>> >Did you just come back from church or something? That would explain
>>> >the sanctimonious bullshit. I'm only repeating what Cindy says
>>> >herself.
>>> No, I didn't. There's no reason for comments about race, physical
>>> disabilities, image issues and actually, someone's religion. Comments
>>> like that show a lack of empathy for fellow humans with a knowledge of
>>> what kind of comments really can hurt someone. If that makes me
>>> sanctimonious instead of caring, that's your problem.
>>> Janet US
>>
>>Hey! I'm right here. I'm obese. I don't take offense at someone
>>mentioning
>>it. I notice it every time I see my fat ass in a mirror.
>
>Well, it's not like I met you in the street and cried out "You're
>obese". I was going with what you said. But maybe you have body image
>issues and you're really skinny in reality.
>
>===
>
> She might be tall too! I never judge!!!

Me neither. Being overweight's not a crime.

On 8/31/2020 2:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 11:50:55 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Silly "bun" remarks aside, you do know what a hamburger bun is, right?
>>>> Who the heck puts kidney beans in sloppy joes?
>>> And you all know me...simple tastes. A pound of cooked and
>>> drained ground beast combined with a can of the original
>>> "Manwich" is delicious. No need here to reinvent the wheel.
>>
>> "Manwich" is reinventing the wheel. Sloppy joes predated Manwich.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> Manwich is a good can of flavor.
>
> ===
>
> What are the ingredients? Is it possible to make it at home?
>
> I looked for a can in the UK but i've never seen it!
>


I think in the UK it is sold under the trade name of "Blokewich".


OH: the obligatory smiley for those afflicted with the WHOOSH disease:

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 03:02:12 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 8:53:23 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 09:39:16 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:37:55 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 09:21:33 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:11:36 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>> >>>wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 04:14:33 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 12:02:19 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>> >>>>>wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Gary wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> > I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>> >>>>>>>>> > on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>> >>>>>>>>> > sandwich even sloppier.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> > Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>> >>>>>>>>> > with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>That's just your diet eating I suspect.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Did you just come back from church or something? That would explain
>> >>>>>the sanctimonious bullshit. I'm only repeating what Cindy says
>> >>>>>herself.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>No, I didn't. There's no reason for comments about race, physical
>> >>>>disabilities, image issues and actually, someone's religion. Comments
>> >>>>like that show a lack of empathy for fellow humans with a knowledge of
>> >>>>what kind of comments really can hurt someone. If that makes me
>> >>>>sanctimonious instead of caring, that's your problem.
>> >>>
>> >>>Cindy's quite down to earth about it, but if she has a problem with
>> >>>what I say, she can tell me.
>> >>>
>> >>>There's much nastier stuff going on here that I never ever hear you
>> >>>about. You actually suck up to one of the nastiest people in RFC.
>> >>>Hypocrite.
>> >>
>> >>I need a name, who do I suck up to? In my mind I am just responding
>> >>or participating in a thread, so you'll have to tell me.
>> >>OTOH, I do sometimes talk with you, is that who you mean?
>> >>Janet US
>> >
>> >If you have to ask...
>> I apologize, it just occurred to me that you really didn't understand
>> that people (particularly women) will say something about themselves
>> that they don't want to hear coming out of someone else's mouth.
>> Often they will say something about themselves to take the sting out
>> of what someone could say about them.
>> It's like that old joke 'Dear, does this dress make me look fat?'
>>
>> Janet US
>
>And my husband's response is: "No, your ass looks fat all on its own".
>
>It's a little schtick we have.
>
>FFS. I weigh 250 pounds. How could I think it was the pants?!!!
>
>Cindy Hamilton

So long as your pants size matches your bra size.

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 Ophelia wrote:
>"Gary" wrote:
>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 Gary wrote:
>> > jmcquown wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Silly "bun" remarks aside, you do know what a hamburger bun is, right?
>> > > Who the heck puts kidney beans in sloppy joes?
>> > And you all know me...simple tastes. A pound of cooked and
>> > drained ground beast combined with a can of the original
>> > "Manwich" is delicious. No need here to reinvent the wheel.
>>
>> "Manwich" is reinventing the wheel. Sloppy joes predated Manwich.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>Manwich is a good can of flavor.
>
>===
>
> What are the ingredients? Is it possible to make it at home?
>
> I looked for a can in the UK but i've never seen it!

Manwich is simply a thick meat sauce... you'd be much better off
preparing your own... there is no exact recipe. Canned Manwich came
about because someone had the idea to commercialze a version of what
many people were already making. I think the canned version is pretty
bad, made with low grade mystery meat. It's essentially browned
ground beef with chopped onion, bell pepper, garlic, s n' p, and
tomato sauce... add whatever you like... I like to include canned
beans or pasta. Manwhich is really chili without the chili powder...
doesn't need to be ground beef, can be ground pork, or both.

Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
> On 8/31/2020 2:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> >
> > "Gary" wrote:
> > Manwich is a good can of flavor.
> >
> > ===
> >
> > What are the ingredients? Is it possible to make it at home?
> >
> > I looked for a can in the UK but i've never seen it!
> >
>
> I think in the UK it is sold under the trade name of "Blokewich".
>
> OH: the obligatory smiley for those afflicted with the WHOOSH disease:

LOL. At first I thought you were serious with "Blokewich"
Good one.

And to Ophy...you can certainly make your own at home.

Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
> On 8/30/2020 8:50 AM, Gary wrote:
> > Taxed and Spent wrote:
> >>
> >> On 8/30/2020 4:12 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 5:26:27 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >>>> Taxed and Spent wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 8/29/2020 4:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>>>> Made an Italian version of Sloppy Joe's tonight, Giuseppe Sciatto.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Used both sweet and hot Italian sausage meat, Bolognais sauce, a mix of
> >>>>>> Parmesan, Cheddar, Asiago cheese. Turned out rather well.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm sure other combinations will work too, vary according to your
> >>>>>> personal taste. We ate it on buns but would be good over pasta too.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Buns? French (or Italian) bread would have been the ticket.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> YUM!
> >>>> I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
> >>>> on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
> >>>> sandwich even sloppier.
> >>>
> >>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Exactly.
> >>
> >> But even on a "bun", don't people use a fork at least?
> >
> > Come on...it's a sandwich. Do you eat a hamburger with a
> > knife and fork? The europeans probably do. All proper and stuff.
> >
>
> I thought they were open faced and messy.

Well they could be. I've just always had them on a
top and bottom bun.

" wrote:
>
> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 10:50:26 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> >
> > Taxed and Spent wrote:
> > >
> > > But even on a "bun", don't people use a fork at least?
> >
> > Come on...it's a sandwich. Do you eat a hamburger with a
> > knife and fork? The europeans probably do. All proper and stuff.
> >
> I eat sloppy joes with a knife and fork, always have. The bun is split
> open, the meat mixture is liberally dished on both halves and then I dig
> in with that knife and fork.

Never done that but it does actually sound like a better way!

I'll eat two at a time with top and bottom bun, but while
you eat the first one, the other one gets soggy.

"U.S. Janet B." wrote:

> Albertsons used to do a fairly passable crusty roll (long or round)
> Then they started bagging them up in plastic because of the virus
> (keep everything sanitary) Well, you put crusty bread in a plastic
> bag and the crusty surface goes away.
> Janet US

Last time I bought a long Italian bread roll, (more than a
year ago) it was put in a paper bag to retain the crust.

But I agree...put in a plastic bag and the crust will
soften.

I don't make bread very often but when I do, it comes out
with an almost rock hard crust. I don't want that so while
it's still warm, I'll put it in a sealed plastic bag to
soften.

Bread for me the last several years has only been raisin
bread when I get the urge. So much better than that thin
sliced commercial raisin bread.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
> >
> > >On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> > >
> > >>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Gary wrote:
> > >>> > I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
> > >>> > on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
> > >>> > sandwich even sloppier.
> > >>>
> > >>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
> > >>
> > >>Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
> > >>
> > >>> > Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
> > >>> > with you about using a French of Italian bread.
> > >>>
> > >>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
> > >>
> > >>That's just your diet eating I suspect.
> > >
> > >You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
> >
> > Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
> > Janet US
>
> But correct. I am obese. I might be back up to "morbidly obese", since I've gained back
> most of the weight I lost a few years back.

Wow, sorry to hear that Cindy. To go on a diet and lose lots of
weight takes more willpower than most people have. It's a very
long term and lifechange thing. I congratulate you for what you
did even if it's mostly come back since.

The strictest that I ever did was for about 65 days and I lost
about 35 pounds. Very low calorie diet combined with much more
exercise. The Scarsdale diet. Mostly normal food balance but way
less calories per day.
It was hard though especially near the end when I started having
food dreams.

When you first start out way over weight, the calories can go
fairly quickly but once you lose a lot and near your "ideal"
weight, the weight loss slows down and can be frustrating.

I've gained more weight myself now that I mostly work at home and
not out every
day with constant physical exercise. I'm not happy with me.

Now that I'm old, I don't really feel the need to go back to my
"ideal" weight so much. Hey...I've earned these pounds.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> FFS. I weigh 250 pounds. How could I think it was the pants?!!!

Some of my old suits have shrunken massively just hanging in
the closet for many years. It happens.

Gary wrote:
>
> " wrote:
> >
> > On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 10:50:26 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > >
> > > Taxed and Spent wrote:
> > > >
> > > > But even on a "bun", don't people use a fork at least?
> > >
> > > Come on...it's a sandwich. Do you eat a hamburger with a
> > > knife and fork? The europeans probably do. All proper and stuff.
> > >
> > I eat sloppy joes with a knife and fork, always have. The bun is split
> > open, the meat mixture is liberally dished on both halves and then I dig
> > in with that knife and fork.
>
> Never done that but it does actually sound like a better way!

By the way. For an open faced sloppy joe, why the knife?
I'd just eat it with a fork or a spoon.

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 10:01:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>
>> On 8/30/2020 8:50 AM, Gary wrote:
>> > Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 8/30/2020 4:12 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >>> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 5:26:27 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> >>>> Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 8/29/2020 4:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >>>>>> Made an Italian version of Sloppy Joe's tonight, Giuseppe Sciatto.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Used both sweet and hot Italian sausage meat, Bolognais sauce, a mix of
>> >>>>>> Parmesan, Cheddar, Asiago cheese. Turned out rather well.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I'm sure other combinations will work too, vary according to your
>> >>>>>> personal taste. We ate it on buns but would be good over pasta too.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Buns? French (or Italian) bread would have been the ticket.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> YUM!
>> >>>> I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>> >>>> on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>> >>>> sandwich even sloppier.
>> >>>
>> >>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Exactly.
>> >>
>> >> But even on a "bun", don't people use a fork at least?
>> >
>> > Come on...it's a sandwich. Do you eat a hamburger with a
>> > knife and fork? The europeans probably do. All proper and stuff.
>> >
>>
>> I thought they were open faced and messy.
>
>Well they could be. I've just always had them on a
>top and bottom bun.

I almost always have my burgers without any bread, I make 12 oz.
burgers, aka chopped steak that were served at diners in the olden
days. We both like it more than a regular steak, no bone, no gristle,
and no extra fat. I've yet to have ordered a steak in any restaurant
that I could say I enjoyed... it's always a mystery what I'd be
served, real mystery meat.

Cindy Hamilton wrote :
> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>>> I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>>>>>> on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>>>>>> sandwich even sloppier.
>>>>>
>>>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
>>>>
>>>>>> Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>>>>>> with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
>>>>
>>>> That's just your diet eating I suspect.
>>>
>>> You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
>>
>> Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
>> Janet US
>
> But correct. I am obese. I might be back up to "morbidly obese", since I've
> gained back most of the weight I lost a few years back.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
>
Keep your chins up, Cindy, you're not obese, you're
just 4 feet too short.

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 10:03:16 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> > On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>> >
>> > >On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Gary wrote:
>> > >>> > I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>> > >>> > on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>> > >>> > sandwich even sloppier.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>> > >>
>> > >>Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
>> > >>
>> > >>> > Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>> > >>> > with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
>> > >>
>> > >>That's just your diet eating I suspect.
>> > >
>> > >You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
>> >
>> > Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
>> > Janet US
>>
>> But correct. I am obese. I might be back up to "morbidly obese", since I've gained back
>> most of the weight I lost a few years back.
>
>Wow, sorry to hear that Cindy. To go on a diet and lose lots of
>weight takes more willpower than most people have. It's a very
>long term and lifechange thing. I congratulate you for what you
>did even if it's mostly come back since.
>
>The strictest that I ever did was for about 65 days and I lost
>about 35 pounds. Very low calorie diet combined with much more
>exercise. The Scarsdale diet. Mostly normal food balance but way
>less calories per day.
>It was hard though especially near the end when I started having
>food dreams.
>
>When you first start out way over weight, the calories can go
>fairly quickly but once you lose a lot and near your "ideal"
>weight, the weight loss slows down and can be frustrating.
>
>I've gained more weight myself now that I mostly work at home and
>not out every
>day with constant physical exercise. I'm not happy with me.
>
>Now that I'm old, I don't really feel the need to go back to my
>"ideal" weight so much. Hey...I've earned these pounds.

You're really not that old as far as I can remember however as one
becomes older it's more important to keep close to an ideal weight and
to exercise... you don't want to need surgery while over weight and
have poor muscle tone, because then what would have been a simple
procedure becomes complicated.

Sheldon Martin wrote:
>
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 10:01:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> >Taxed and Spent wrote:
> >>
> >> On 8/30/2020 8:50 AM, Gary wrote:
> >> > Taxed and Spent wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On 8/30/2020 4:12 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> >>> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 5:26:27 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >> >>>> Taxed and Spent wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On 8/29/2020 4:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> >>>>>> Made an Italian version of Sloppy Joe's tonight, Giuseppe Sciatto.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Used both sweet and hot Italian sausage meat, Bolognais sauce, a mix of
> >> >>>>>> Parmesan, Cheddar, Asiago cheese. Turned out rather well.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> I'm sure other combinations will work too, vary according to your
> >> >>>>>> personal taste. We ate it on buns but would be good over pasta too.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Buns? French (or Italian) bread would have been the ticket.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> YUM!
> >> >>>> I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
> >> >>>> on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
> >> >>>> sandwich even sloppier.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> Exactly.
> >> >>
> >> >> But even on a "bun", don't people use a fork at least?
> >> >
> >> > Come on...it's a sandwich. Do you eat a hamburger with a
> >> > knife and fork? The europeans probably do. All proper and stuff.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I thought they were open faced and messy.
> >
> >Well they could be. I've just always had them on a
> >top and bottom bun.
>
> I almost always have my burgers without any bread, I make 12 oz.
> burgers, aka chopped steak that were served at diners in the olden
> days. We both like it more than a regular steak, no bone, no gristle,
> and no extra fat. I've yet to have ordered a steak in any restaurant
> that I could say I enjoyed... it's always a mystery what I'd be
> served, real mystery meat.

Yes, we know. You only eat RO homeground meat.
You do still buy mystery cow meat though.

Cindy Hamilton > writes:

> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>> >
>> >>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Gary wrote:
>> >>> > I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best
>> >>> > on soft buns. To use a denser bread would just make the
>> >>> > sandwich even sloppier.
>> >>>
>> >>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>> >>
>> >>Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
>> >>
>> >>> > Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>> >>> > with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>> >>>
>> >>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
>> >>
>> >>That's just your diet eating I suspect.
>> >
>> >You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
>>
>> Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame.
>> Janet US
>
> But correct. I am obese. I might be back up to "morbidly obese", since I've gained back
> most of the weight I lost a few years back.

A shame.

Ever watch My 600lb Life?
A trip to Houston might be in order.
At least from the show he seems to do well.

I have a friend that as overweight a long time.
Gastric reduction did wonders for him.


--
Dan Espen

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 10:05:01 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Gary" wrote in message ...
>
>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 11:50:55 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> > jmcquown wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Silly "bun" remarks aside, you do know what a hamburger bun is, right?
>> > > Who the heck puts kidney beans in sloppy joes?
>> > And you all know me...simple tastes. A pound of cooked and
>> > drained ground beast combined with a can of the original
>> > "Manwich" is delicious. No need here to reinvent the wheel.
>>
>> "Manwich" is reinventing the wheel. Sloppy joes predated Manwich.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>Manwich is a good can of flavor.
>
>===
>
> What are the ingredients? Is it possible to make it at home?
>
> I looked for a can in the UK but i've never seen it!

Sloppy Joes recipe on Internet
https://tinyurl.com/ydca8nzd


My Method
For my method (because I don't have a recipe)
1 pound ground beef, crumble and brown in pan with
some chopped onion.
Some chopped green bell (not hot) pepper or whatever color you like
I always chopped a little celery and put that in
Cook vegetables with meat until done.
Add (this depends what I have in the house at the time)
12-14 ounces plain tomato sauce (this isn't spaghetti sauce but I
suppose you could use that if you wanted)
or
a scant cup of catsup
or
a can of undiluted tomato soup
salt and pepper to taste
water if needed to thin to the consistency you like

Sloppy Joes are throw together meal, nothing fancy. Leftovers taste
just as good the next day. You (anyone) iis free to add whatever
seasonings beyond the method above that suits you.

Look at the link: That's a pretty basic recipe. There is a photo of
the finished product.

Your husband may like this one.

Janet US

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
I weigh 250 pounds. How could I think it was the pants?!!!

Distribution is key. Could be you're tall and top heavy.
I also like a large round bubble butt!!! hehe You'd look very
attractive from front and rear/coming and going. You need to take
complements from whence they come... some people are envious of your
pulchritude.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pulchritude

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 10:10:15 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Gary wrote:
>>
>> " wrote:
>> >
>> > On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 10:50:26 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > But even on a "bun", don't people use a fork at least?
>> > >
>> > > Come on...it's a sandwich. Do you eat a hamburger with a
>> > > knife and fork? The europeans probably do. All proper and stuff.
>> > >
>> > I eat sloppy joes with a knife and fork, always have. The bun is split
>> > open, the meat mixture is liberally dished on both halves and then I dig
>> > in with that knife and fork.
>>
>> Never done that but it does actually sound like a better way!
>
>By the way. For an open faced sloppy joe, why the knife?
>I'd just eat it with a fork or a spoon.

Depends on the texture of the bread.

On Monday, August 31, 2020 at 7:39:41 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 Ophelia wrote:
> >"Gary" wrote:
> >Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 Gary wrote:
> >> > jmcquown wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Silly "bun" remarks aside, you do know what a hamburger bun is, right?
> >> > > Who the heck puts kidney beans in sloppy joes?
> >> > And you all know me...simple tastes. A pound of cooked and
> >> > drained ground beast combined with a can of the original
> >> > "Manwich" is delicious. No need here to reinvent the wheel.
> >>
> >> "Manwich" is reinventing the wheel. Sloppy joes predated Manwich.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >
> >Manwich is a good can of flavor.
> >
> >===
> >
> > What are the ingredients? Is it possible to make it at home?
> >
> > I looked for a can in the UK but i've never seen it!
> Manwich is simply a thick meat sauce... you'd be much better off
> preparing your own... there is no exact recipe. Canned Manwich came
> about because someone had the idea to commercialze a version of what
> many people were already making. I think the canned version is pretty
> bad, made with low grade mystery meat. It's essentially browned
> ground beef with chopped onion, bell pepper, garlic, s n' p, and
> tomato sauce... add whatever you like... I like to include canned
> beans or pasta. Manwhich is really chili without the chili powder...
> doesn't need to be ground beef, can be ground pork, or both.

Manwich is pretty bad. Years ago, I bought like 4 cans because they were really cheap. I ended up donating 3 of them.

--Bryan

"Taxed and Spent" wrote in message ...

On 8/31/2020 2:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 11:50:55 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Silly "bun" remarks aside, you do know what a hamburger bun is, right?
>>>> Who the heck puts kidney beans in sloppy joes?
>>> And you all know me...simple tastes. A pound of cooked and
>>> drained ground beast combined with a can of the original
>>> "Manwich" is delicious. No need here to reinvent the wheel.
>>
>> "Manwich" is reinventing the wheel. Sloppy joes predated Manwich.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> Manwich is a good can of flavor.
>
> ===
>
> What are the ingredients? Is it possible to make it at home?
>
> I looked for a can in the UK but i've never seen it!
>


I think in the UK it is sold under the trade name of "Blokewich".


OH: the obligatory smiley for those afflicted with the WHOOSH disease

===

Thank you! I have searched and I can't find it

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
> On 8/31/2020 2:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> >
> > "Gary" wrote:
> > Manwich is a good can of flavor.
> >
> > ===
> >
> > What are the ingredients? Is it possible to make it at home?
> >
> > I looked for a can in the UK but i've never seen it!
> >
>
> I think in the UK it is sold under the trade name of "Blokewich".
>
> OH: the obligatory smiley for those afflicted with the WHOOSH disease:

LOL. At first I thought you were serious with "Blokewich"
Good one.

And to Ophy...you can certainly make your own at home.

====

Ahhh!! Recipe please?

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
...

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 10:05:01 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Gary" wrote in message ...
>
>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 11:50:55 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> > jmcquown wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Silly "bun" remarks aside, you do know what a hamburger bun is,
>> > > right?
>> > > Who the heck puts kidney beans in sloppy joes?
>> > And you all know me...simple tastes. A pound of cooked and
>> > drained ground beast combined with a can of the original
>> > "Manwich" is delicious. No need here to reinvent the wheel.
>>
>> "Manwich" is reinventing the wheel. Sloppy joes predated Manwich.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>Manwich is a good can of flavor.
>
>===
>
> What are the ingredients? Is it possible to make it at home?
>
> I looked for a can in the UK but i've never seen it!

Sloppy Joes recipe on Internet
https://tinyurl.com/ydca8nzd


My Method
For my method (because I don't have a recipe)
1 pound ground beef, crumble and brown in pan with
some chopped onion.
Some chopped green bell (not hot) pepper or whatever color you like
I always chopped a little celery and put that in
Cook vegetables with meat until done.
Add (this depends what I have in the house at the time)
12-14 ounces plain tomato sauce (this isn't spaghetti sauce but I
suppose you could use that if you wanted)
or
a scant cup of catsup
or
a can of undiluted tomato soup
salt and pepper to taste
water if needed to thin to the consistency you like

Sloppy Joes are throw together meal, nothing fancy. Leftovers taste
just as good the next day. You (anyone) iis free to add whatever
seasonings beyond the method above that suits you.

Look at the link: That's a pretty basic recipe. There is a photo of
the finished product.

Your husband may like this one.

Janet US

=====

Thanks very much When we get home I will give it a try))

On 8/31/2020 10:55 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote :
>> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>>>> I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best on soft
>>>>>>> buns. To use a denser bread would just make the sandwich even
>>>>>>> sloppier.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
>>>>>>> Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>>>>>>> with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's just your diet eating I suspect.
>>>>
>>>> You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
>>>
>>> Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame. Janet US
>>
>> But correct.* I am obese.* I might be back up to "morbidly obese",
>> since I've gained back most of the weight I lost a few years back.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>>
> Keep your chins up, Cindy, you're not obese, you're
> just 4 feet too short.

Curious as to why someone took the time to cross post this from RFC.
Oh, I think I know why.

On 8/31/2020 12:16 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Gary"Â* wrote in message ...
> Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>
>> On 8/31/2020 2:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > "Gary"Â* wrote:
>> > Manwich is a good can of flavor.
>> >
>> > ===
>> >
>> >Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* What are the ingredients?Â* Is it possible to make it at home?
>> >
>> >Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* I looked for a can in the UK but i've never seen it!
>> >
>>
>> I think in the UK it is sold under the trade name of "Blokewich".
>>
>> OH: the obligatory smiley for those afflicted with the WHOOSH disease:
>
> LOL. At first I thought you were serious with "Blokewich"
> Good one.
>
> And to Ophy...you can certainly make your own at home.
>
> ====
>
> Â* Ahhh!!Â* Recipe please?
>
>

I have a simple method. Ground beef, tomato sauce, pretty much anything
else that sounds good at the time. Onion, peppers, cheese, mushrooms,
seasonings. A little chopped veggies is OK too if you have some
leftovers. Never made it the same way twice.

heyjoe wrote :
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 10:55:00 -0400
> in Message-ID: >
> Dave Smith wrote :
>
>> From: Dave Smith >
>> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking,alt.home.repair
>> Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server
>> Message-ID: >
>> X-Complaints-To:
>
>> Keep your chins up, Cindy, you're not obese, you're
>> just 4 feet too short.
>
> Thank you for the opportunity to refine my killfile!
>
Plonkers are for pussies.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 8/31/2020 12:16 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Gary"Â wrote in message ...
> Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>
>> On 8/31/2020 2:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > "Gary"Â wrote:
>> > Manwich is a good can of flavor.
>> >
>> > ===
>> >
>> >     What are the ingredients? Is it possible to make it at
>> >home?
>> >
>> >Â Â Â Â Â I looked for a can in the UK but i've never seen it!
>> >
>>
>> I think in the UK it is sold under the trade name of "Blokewich".
>>
>> OH: the obligatory smiley for those afflicted with the WHOOSH disease:
>
> LOL. At first I thought you were serious with "Blokewich"
> Good one.
>
> And to Ophy...you can certainly make your own at home.
>
> ====
>
>  Ahhh!! Recipe please?
>
>

I have a simple method. Ground beef, tomato sauce, pretty much anything
else that sounds good at the time. Onion, peppers, cheese, mushrooms,
seasonings. A little chopped veggies is OK too if you have some
leftovers. Never made it the same way twice.

====

Thank you!

On 8/31/2020 12:24 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/31/2020 10:55 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote :
>>> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:34:31 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:32:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'll have to disagee with you here. A sloppy joe is best on soft
>>>>>>>> buns. To use a denser bread would just make the sandwich even
>>>>>>>> sloppier.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At which point you can eat it with knife and fork.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy...only YOU would eat a sloppy joe with knife and fork
>>>>>>>> Now if he put it over pasta, like he mentioned, I would agree
>>>>>>>> with you about using a French of Italian bread.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't remember the last time I had bread _and_ pasta.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's just your diet eating I suspect.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're talking to someone who says she's obese.
>>>>
>>>> Your comment is unnecessary and of ugly intent. Shame. Janet US
>>>
>>> But correct.* I am obese.* I might be back up to "morbidly obese",
>>> since I've gained back most of the weight I lost a few years back.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>>
>> Keep your chins up, Cindy, you're not obese, you're
>> just 4 feet too short.
>
> Curious as to why someone took the time to cross post this from RFC. Oh,
> I think I know why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFjsgn8wPJU

On Monday, August 31, 2020 at 9:10:05 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> >
> > > I eat sloppy joes with a knife and fork, always have. The bun is split
> > > open, the meat mixture is liberally dished on both halves and then I dig
> > > in with that knife and fork.
> >
> > Never done that but it does actually sound like a better way!
>
> By the way. For an open faced sloppy joe, why the knife?
> I'd just eat it with a fork or a spoon.
>
As you said in a reply upstream the bun can get a bit soggy and a steak
knife solves that problem.

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
> I weigh 250 pounds. How could I think it was the pants?!!!
>
> Distribution is key. Could be you're tall and top heavy.
> I also like a large round bubble butt!!! hehe You'd look very
> attractive from front and rear/coming and going. You need to take
> complements from whence they come... some people are envious of your
> pulchritude.
> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pulchritude
>
>
Good job Popeye. Yoose learned a new word today!

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 09:47:21 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 10:05:01 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Gary" wrote in message ...
>>
>>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 11:50:55 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>> > jmcquown wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Silly "bun" remarks aside, you do know what a hamburger bun is, right?
>>> > > Who the heck puts kidney beans in sloppy joes?
>>> > And you all know me...simple tastes. A pound of cooked and
>>> > drained ground beast combined with a can of the original
>>> > "Manwich" is delicious. No need here to reinvent the wheel.
>>>
>>> "Manwich" is reinventing the wheel. Sloppy joes predated Manwich.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>>Manwich is a good can of flavor.
>>
>>===
>>
>> What are the ingredients? Is it possible to make it at home?
>>
>> I looked for a can in the UK but i've never seen it!
>
>Sloppy Joes recipe on Internet
>https://tinyurl.com/ydca8nzd
>
>
>My Method
>For my method (because I don't have a recipe)
>1 pound ground beef, crumble and brown in pan with
>some chopped onion.
>Some chopped green bell (not hot) pepper or whatever color you like
>I always chopped a little celery and put that in
>Cook vegetables with meat until done.
>Add (this depends what I have in the house at the time)
>12-14 ounces plain tomato sauce (this isn't spaghetti sauce but I
>suppose you could use that if you wanted)
>or
>a scant cup of catsup
>or
>a can of undiluted tomato soup
>salt and pepper to taste
>water if needed to thin to the consistency you like
>
>Sloppy Joes are throw together meal, nothing fancy. Leftovers taste
>just as good the next day. You (anyone) iis free to add whatever
>seasonings beyond the method above that suits you.
>
>Look at the link: That's a pretty basic recipe. There is a photo of
>the finished product.
>
>Your husband may like this one.
>
>Janet US

That recipe is okay except for that HALF onion... only people who
don't actually cook ever designate part of an onion. Onions come in
all sizes from the size of a marble to the size of a softball.. Real
cooks never use part of an onion, they choose one of the required size
and use it all. No matter how wrapped part of an onion stinks up your
fridge and the cut onion soon goes woofy... for a small amount of
onion use a green onion or use dehy. That recipe doesn't indicate
half a ping pong ball sized onion or half a bocce ball sized onion...
some kitchen imbecile will claim that they don't sell various sized
onions here. Every market sells loose onions of all sizes and mesh
bagged onions of all sizes, real cooks choose an assortment of sizes.

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 7:25:48 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:13:35 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 6:39:20 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:37:55 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 09:21:33 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>
> >> >>Cindy's quite down to earth about it, but if she has a problem with
> >> >>what I say, she can tell me.
> >> >>
> >> >>There's much nastier stuff going on here that I never ever hear you
> >> >>about. You actually suck up to one of the nastiest people in RFC.
> >> >>Hypocrite.
> >> >
> >> >I need a name, who do I suck up to? In my mind I am just responding
> >> >or participating in a thread, so you'll have to tell me.
> >> >OTOH, I do sometimes talk with you, is that who you mean?
> >> >Janet US
> >> If you have to ask...
> >
> >I'm asking, Bruce. I don't suck up to anyone. I sometimes agree with a person whom I usually disagree with if that person has a good point. That even applies to Kuthe, who is the only person here whom I hate. I don't think that anyone here sucks up to anyone. There are no outright coalitions or cliques, just a lot of shifting hostilities, and continuing interpersonal hostilities. Oh, and cutesy nicknames.
> No you don't suck up. And I don't hate anybody here. Not beyond the
> level of newsgroup irritation. But I do hate group bullying and people
> who take themselves too seriously.

So, you don't hate anyone here, but you do hate "people who take themselves too seriously." Then, it logically follows that you do not believe that anyone here takes themselves too seriously.

--Bryan

On Monday, August 31, 2020 at 1:42:41 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 09:47:21 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
> wrote:
> >On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 10:05:01 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>"Gary" wrote in message ...
> >>
> >>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 11:50:55 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >>> > jmcquown wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Silly "bun" remarks aside, you do know what a hamburger bun is, right?
> >>> > > Who the heck puts kidney beans in sloppy joes?
> >>> > And you all know me...simple tastes. A pound of cooked and
> >>> > drained ground beast combined with a can of the original
> >>> > "Manwich" is delicious. No need here to reinvent the wheel.
> >>>
> >>> "Manwich" is reinventing the wheel. Sloppy joes predated Manwich.
> >>>
> >>> Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >>Manwich is a good can of flavor.
> >>
> >>===
> >>
> >> What are the ingredients? Is it possible to make it at home?
> >>
> >> I looked for a can in the UK but i've never seen it!
> >
> >Sloppy Joes recipe on Internet
> >https://tinyurl.com/ydca8nzd
> >
> >
> >My Method
> >For my method (because I don't have a recipe)
> >1 pound ground beef, crumble and brown in pan with
> >some chopped onion.
> >Some chopped green bell (not hot) pepper or whatever color you like
> >I always chopped a little celery and put that in
> >Cook vegetables with meat until done.
> >Add (this depends what I have in the house at the time)
> >12-14 ounces plain tomato sauce (this isn't spaghetti sauce but I
> >suppose you could use that if you wanted)
> >or
> >a scant cup of catsup
> >or
> >a can of undiluted tomato soup
> >salt and pepper to taste
> >water if needed to thin to the consistency you like
> >
> >Sloppy Joes are throw together meal, nothing fancy. Leftovers taste
> >just as good the next day. You (anyone) iis free to add whatever
> >seasonings beyond the method above that suits you.
> >
> >Look at the link: That's a pretty basic recipe. There is a photo of
> >the finished product.
> >
> >Your husband may like this one.
> >
> >Janet US
> That recipe is okay except for that HALF onion... only people who
> don't actually cook ever designate part of an onion. Onions come in
> all sizes from the size of a marble to the size of a softball.. Real
> cooks never use part of an onion, they choose one of the required size
> and use it all. No matter how wrapped part of an onion stinks up your
> fridge and the cut onion soon goes woofy... for a small amount of
> onion use a green onion or use dehy. That recipe doesn't indicate
> half a ping pong ball sized onion or half a bocce ball sized onion...
> some kitchen imbecile will claim that they don't sell various sized
> onions here. Every market sells loose onions of all sizes and mesh
> bagged onions of all sizes, real cooks choose an assortment of sizes.

Green onion is NEVER a good substitute for onion.

--Bryan

On Monday, August 31, 2020 at 6:16:31 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>
> Taxed and Spent wrote:
> >
> > On 8/31/2020 2:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > "Gary" wrote:
> > > Manwich is a good can of flavor.
> > >
> > > ===
> > >
> > > What are the ingredients? Is it possible to make it at home?
> > >
> > > I looked for a can in the UK but i've never seen it!
> > >
> >
> > I think in the UK it is sold under the trade name of "Blokewich".
> >
> > OH: the obligatory smiley for those afflicted with the WHOOSH disease:
>
> LOL. At first I thought you were serious with "Blokewich"
> Good one.
>
> And to Ophy...you can certainly make your own at home.
>
> ====
>
> Ahhh!! Recipe please?

The American Sloppy Joe will be hamburger in a tight tomato sauce base with onion and bell pepper flavors. Typically, it will have a lot of sugar added which would be the reason that kids like it. It is usually served on hamburger buns.

I made a big one back in the 70's with a whole loaf of bread. Just bake a round loaf of Italian bread and fill that with the hamburger mix. It was a whole lot of fun!