On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6, wrote:
>> >
>> > I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
>>
>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
>
>I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(

She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television! Now you
have a president who thinks his daughter's hot. But a nipple slip
still stops the country

On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6, wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
> >>
> >> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
> >
> >I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
>
> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!

Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 03:14:46 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6, wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
>> >>
>> >> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
>> >
>> >I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
>>
>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
>> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
>
>Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
>operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.

I'd be surprised if they had.

On 2019-12-19 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
>>>
>>> I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
>>
>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
>> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
>
> Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
> operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.
>
But but.... Dallas was a soap opera, as were Sons of Anarchy and
Breaking Bad.

On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 11:02:46 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-12-19 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6, wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
> >>>
> >>> I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
> >>
> >> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
> >> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
> >
> > Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
> > operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.
> >
> But but.... Dallas was a soap opera, as were Sons of Anarchy and
> Breaking Bad.

Yes, it was. I was a little imprecise. Nowadays, though, I imagine
there's incest all over the place on nighttime TV. I think there's
a Wikipedia article about it.

Twin Peaks was a soap opera, as was Game of Thrones.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 08:16:32 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 11:02:46 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-12-19 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6, wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
>> >>>
>> >>> I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
>> >>
>> >> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
>> >> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
>> >
>> > Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
>> > operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.
>> >
>> But but.... Dallas was a soap opera, as were Sons of Anarchy and
>> Breaking Bad.
>
>Yes, it was. I was a little imprecise. Nowadays, though, I imagine
>there's incest all over the place on nighttime TV. I think there's
>a Wikipedia article about it.
>
>Twin Peaks was a soap opera, as was Game of Thrones.

Incest on American TV? And inbreeding too? Little babies with 3 arms?

On 2019-12-19 11:16 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 11:02:46 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-12-19 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6, wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
>>>>>
>>>>> I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
>>>>
>>>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
>>>> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
>>>
>>> Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
>>> operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.
>>>
>> But but.... Dallas was a soap opera, as were Sons of Anarchy and
>> Breaking Bad.
>
> Yes, it was. I was a little imprecise. Nowadays, though, I imagine
> there's incest all over the place on nighttime TV. I think there's
> a Wikipedia article about it.
>
> Twin Peaks was a soap opera, as was Game of Thrones.
>

We can add Vikings to the list. The only difference is the air time and
the sponsors.

On 12/19/2019 11:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> Twin Peaks was a soap opera, as was Game of Thrones.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

I never saw the TV series Twin Peaks or Game of Thrones. I did just
read the book 'A Game of Thrones' by George R.R. Martin, though.

Jill

On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 14:58:36 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 12/19/2019 11:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> Twin Peaks was a soap opera, as was Game of Thrones.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>I never saw the TV series Twin Peaks or Game of Thrones. I did just
>read the book 'A Game of Thrones' by George R.R. Martin, though.

Game of Thrones: 80% talking heads, 20% gruesome murders.

On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 3:09:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 14:58:36 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> >On 12/19/2019 11:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> Twin Peaks was a soap opera, as was Game of Thrones.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >
> >I never saw the TV series Twin Peaks or Game of Thrones. I did just
> >read the book 'A Game of Thrones' by George R.R. Martin, though.
>
> Game of Thrones: 80% talking heads, 20% gruesome murders.

You left out the sex.

Oh, wait. That probably falls under "talking heads".

Cindy Hamilton

On 2019 Dec 19, , jmcquown wrote
(in article >):

> I never saw the TV series Twin Peaks or Game of Thrones. I did just
> read the book 'A Game of Thrones' by George R.R. Martin, though.

Twin Peaks descended from promise to madness in a rather short period of
time. I think the writers discovered cocaine.
€œThe owls are not what they seem.€� is the one and only line I still
remember.

leo

On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 17:03:26 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2019 Dec 19, , jmcquown wrote
>(in article >):
>
>> I never saw the TV series Twin Peaks or Game of Thrones. I did just
>> read the book 'A Game of Thrones' by George R.R. Martin, though.
>
>Twin Peaks descended from promise to madness in a rather short period of
>time.

For ME, that was less than 10 minutes.

jmcquown wrote:
>
> I did just read the book 'A Game of Thrones'
> by George R.R. Martin, though.

Is that worth reading, Jill? I have it here.
My son in law accidently left it here many years ago
and told me to just keep it.

It's still here but I've never read it.
Never watched the tv series either.

Gary wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > I did just read the book 'A Game of Thrones'
> > by George R.R. Martin, though.
>
> Is that worth reading, Jill? I have it here.
> My son in law accidently left it here many years ago
> and told me to just keep it.
>
> It's still here but I've never read it.
> Never watched the tv series either.

I watched a few minutes, then changed the channel...like all else "fantasy" these days it is *totally* CGI, a kid on any computer could do those special effects...

I'm a huge fan of The Man in the High Castle, the book is one of my faves of the "alternative history" genre...watched the first season but then lost interest. One thing about creating an Axis - occupied USA of 1962 is that people would not be living in nice suburban tract homes and driving cool '57 Chevies and watching Rock Hudson movies or whatever, the only difference in contrast to our real history being Nazi flags all around, etc....simply not believable!

--
Best
Greg

On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 12:53:17 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> I did just read the book 'A Game of Thrones'
>> by George R.R. Martin, though.
>
>Is that worth reading, Jill? I have it here.
>My son in law accidently left it here many years ago
>and told me to just keep it.
>
>It's still here but I've never read it.
>Never watched the tv series either.

I always thought thrones refered to toilets.

On 12/22/2019 12:53 PM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> I did just read the book 'A Game of Thrones'
>> by George R.R. Martin, though.
>
> Is that worth reading, Jill? I have it here.
> My son in law accidently left it here many years ago
> and told me to just keep it.
>
> It's still here but I've never read it.
> Never watched the tv series either.
>
I found it to be a fun read, Gary. Probably because I didn't see the TV
series so I didn't have any predisposed notions about it.

Jill

On 16:04 19 Dec 2019, Dave Smith > wrote:

> On 2019-12-19 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6,
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or
>>>>>> two.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's)
>>>>> and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days.
>>>>> Like BBQ brisket?
>>>>
>>>> I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy
>>>> Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean
>>>> her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
>>>
>>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
>>> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
>>
>> Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
>> operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.
>>
> But but.... Dallas was a soap opera, as were Sons of Anarchy and
> Breaking Bad.

I skipped by Sons of Anarchy when it came up on Netflix as it looked like
a violent reality tv show, although my nephew seems to delight in
following it.

Didn't know it was more like a soap.

On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 12:09:49 PM UTC-5, Pamela wrote:
> On 16:04 19 Dec 2019, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
> > On 2019-12-19 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6,
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or
> >>>>>> two.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's)
> >>>>> and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days.
> >>>>> Like BBQ brisket?
> >>>>
> >>>> I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy
> >>>> Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean
> >>>> her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
> >>>
> >>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
> >>> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
> >>
> >> Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
> >> operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.
> >>
> > But but.... Dallas was a soap opera, as were Sons of Anarchy and
> > Breaking Bad.
>
> I skipped by Sons of Anarchy when it came up on Netflix as it looked like
> a violent reality tv show, although my nephew seems to delight in
> following it.
>
> Didn't know it was more like a soap.

Season 1 was a bit like Hamlet with guns and motorcycles.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2019-12-19 12:50 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 12:09:49 PM UTC-5, Pamela wrote:
>> On 16:04 19 Dec 2019, Dave Smith > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2019-12-19 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6,
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or
>>>>>>>> two.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's)
>>>>>>> and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days.
>>>>>>> Like BBQ brisket?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy
>>>>>> Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean
>>>>>> her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
>>>>>
>>>>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
>>>>> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
>>>>
>>>> Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
>>>> operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.
>>>>
>>> But but.... Dallas was a soap opera, as were Sons of Anarchy and
>>> Breaking Bad.
>>
>> I skipped by Sons of Anarchy when it came up on Netflix as it looked like
>> a violent reality tv show, although my nephew seems to delight in
>> following it.
>>
>> Didn't know it was more like a soap.
>
> Season 1 was a bit like Hamlet with guns and motorcycles.
>

The last episode was a lame attempt to like Jaxx to Jesus, maybe
presenting the possibility of the series resurrecting.

On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 2:31:47 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-12-19 12:50 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 12:09:49 PM UTC-5, Pamela wrote:
> >> On 16:04 19 Dec 2019, Dave Smith > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 2019-12-19 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> >>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6,
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or
> >>>>>>>> two.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's)
> >>>>>>> and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days.
> >>>>>>> Like BBQ brisket?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy
> >>>>>> Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean
> >>>>>> her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
> >>>>>
> >>>>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
> >>>>> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
> >>>>
> >>>> Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
> >>>> operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.
> >>>>
> >>> But but.... Dallas was a soap opera, as were Sons of Anarchy and
> >>> Breaking Bad.
> >>
> >> I skipped by Sons of Anarchy when it came up on Netflix as it looked like
> >> a violent reality tv show, although my nephew seems to delight in
> >> following it.
> >>
> >> Didn't know it was more like a soap.
> >
> > Season 1 was a bit like Hamlet with guns and motorcycles.
> >
>
> The last episode was a lame attempt to like Jaxx to Jesus, maybe
> presenting the possibility of the series resurrecting.

Yep. But I forgive them, because of that delicious rendition of
"John the Revelator".

Cindy Hamilton

On 2019-12-19 12:09 p.m., Pamela wrote:
> On 16:04 19 Dec 2019, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> On 2019-12-19 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6,
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with
>>>>>>> another veg or two.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the
>>>>>> early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked
>>>>>> for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
>>>>>
>>>>> I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called
>>>>> "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so
>>>>> they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that
>>>>> was! :-(
>>>>
>>>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to
>>>> be her uncle. The first celebration of incest on American
>>>> television!
>>>
>>> Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime
>>> soap operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas
>>> did.
>>>
>> But but.... Dallas was a soap opera, as were Sons of Anarchy and
>> Breaking Bad.
>
> I skipped by Sons of Anarchy when it came up on Netflix as it looked
> like a violent reality tv show, although my nephew seems to delight
> in following it.
>
> Didn't know it was more like a soap.


It has all the characteristics of a soap opera. There is a cast of
characters coming in and out of the series, some of them evil, some
somewhat admirable, parallel sub plots, love stories, romance and sex,
betrayals, disappearances and deaths. Some of the characters are down
right evil while others are shown to be capable of doing bad.

On 19:25 19 Dec 2019, Dave Smith > wrote:

> On 2019-12-19 12:09 p.m., Pamela wrote:
>> On 16:04 19 Dec 2019, Dave Smith > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2019-12-19 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6,
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with
>>>>>>>> another veg or two.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the
>>>>>>> early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked
>>>>>>> for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called
>>>>>> "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so
>>>>>> they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that
>>>>>> was! :-(
>>>>>
>>>>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to
>>>>> be her uncle. The first celebration of incest on American
>>>>> television!
>>>>
>>>> Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime
>>>> soap operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas
>>>> did.
>>>>
>>> But but.... Dallas was a soap opera, as were Sons of Anarchy and
>>> Breaking Bad.
>>
>> I skipped by Sons of Anarchy when it came up on Netflix as it looked
>> like a violent reality tv show, although my nephew seems to delight
>> in following it.
>>
>> Didn't know it was more like a soap.
>
>
> It has all the characteristics of a soap opera. There is a cast of
> characters coming in and out of the series, some of them evil, some
> somewhat admirable, parallel sub plots, love stories, romance and sex,
> betrayals, disappearances and deaths. Some of the characters are down
> right evil while others are shown to be capable of doing bad.

I suppose even Breaking Bad could be called a soap although that may not
the best description.

On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 00:25:08 GMT, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 19:25 19 Dec 2019, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> On 2019-12-19 12:09 p.m., Pamela wrote:
>>> On 16:04 19 Dec 2019, Dave Smith > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2019-12-19 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6,
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with
>>>>>>>>> another veg or two.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the
>>>>>>>> early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked
>>>>>>>> for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called
>>>>>>> "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so
>>>>>>> they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that
>>>>>>> was! :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to
>>>>>> be her uncle. The first celebration of incest on American
>>>>>> television!
>>>>>
>>>>> Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime
>>>>> soap operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas
>>>>> did.
>>>>>
>>>> But but.... Dallas was a soap opera, as were Sons of Anarchy and
>>>> Breaking Bad.
>>>
>>> I skipped by Sons of Anarchy when it came up on Netflix as it looked
>>> like a violent reality tv show, although my nephew seems to delight
>>> in following it.
>>>
>>> Didn't know it was more like a soap.
>>
>>
>> It has all the characteristics of a soap opera. There is a cast of
>> characters coming in and out of the series, some of them evil, some
>> somewhat admirable, parallel sub plots, love stories, romance and sex,
>> betrayals, disappearances and deaths. Some of the characters are down
>> right evil while others are shown to be capable of doing bad.
>
>I suppose even Breaking Bad could be called a soap although that may not
>the best description.

Of course not. Not that I'm a huge fan, but BB has nothing to do with
a soap.

On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 11:04:17 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2019-12-19 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
>>>>
>>>> I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
>>>
>>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
>>> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
>>
>> Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
>> operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.
>>
>But but.... Dallas was a soap opera, as were Sons of Anarchy and
>Breaking Bad.

Breaking Bad a soap opera? Dave's deteriorating.

On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 03:14:46 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6, wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
>> >>
>> >> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
>> >
>> >I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
>>
>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
>> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
>
>Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
>operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

what about Peyton Place? That was around before Dallas

On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 10:16:19 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 03:14:46 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6, wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
>>> >
>>> >I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
>>>
>>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
>>> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
>>
>>Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
>>operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.
>>
>>Cindy Hamilton
>
>what about Peyton Place? That was around before Dallas

Dr. Rossi or something. But I doubt they dealt with incest.