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On 2019-08-18 9:40 a.m., U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> I don't like a lot of cheese, I guess because I really don't like
> melted cheese -- too greasy
> Janet US
>
Then you would probably like the product of a Middle Eastern pita bakery
in Calgary. In addition to straight pita bread, you can buy them with a
topping of a spiced minced beef (no cheese). They are delicious!

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On 2019-08-18 11:33 a.m., graham wrote:
> On 2019-08-18 9:20 a.m., U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 03:37:02 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 10:44:15 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 21:19:37 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>>> wrote:
>> snip
>>>>
>>>> My theory is sauce, onions, peppers, mushrooms, (so they cook al dente
>>>> in the sauce) sausage, cheese.Â* I figured that way there wouldn't be
>>>> any dried out stuff.
>>>> I was curious how others do it and why.
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>> Ah.Â* Well here's how I do it:
>>>
>>> Brush the crust with garlic-infused olive oil.
>>> Sprinkle on a little Parmagiano-Reggiano
>>> Add a couple ounces of shredded provolone.Â* If you can't see the crust
>>> anymore, that was too much cheese.
>>> Top with diced tomato and perhaps some thinly sliced onion.
>>> Bake.
>>> Sprinkle with a mixture of minced basil and parsley.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> I do like diced fresh tomato on a pizza.
>> Janet US
>>
> When I lived in Australia I used to make them from scratch and just use
> fresh tomatoes and cheese (no sauce). A guest told me that they were
> just like the ones he'd had in Italy.
I also added fresh oregano/marjoram from the garden.

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On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 3:24:54 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> Do I spy one there with pineapple??

You do indeed. I also like to use canned tomato paste instead of a prepared sauce. It's spread thinly on the dough, then seasoned with salt and pepper and some spaghetti sauce seasoning. If you're making a pizza with the sauce on top you have to use a prepared sauce. I just used a can of marinara sauce.

Some people will make a double crust pizza but I'm not going to talk about that. :)

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On 2019-08-18 2:00 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 3:24:54 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> Do I spy one there with pineapple??
>
> You do indeed. I also like to use canned tomato paste instead of a
> prepared sauce. It's spread thinly on the dough, then seasoned with
> salt and pepper and some spaghetti sauce seasoning. If you're making
> a pizza with the sauce on top you have to use a prepared sauce. I
> just used a can of marinara sauce.
>
> Some people will make a double crust pizza but I'm not going to talk
> about that. :)
>


You just did.

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On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 10:01:18 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 12:04:40 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 09:20:44 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 03:37:02 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 10:44:15 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> >>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 21:19:37 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >snip
>> >>>
>> >>> My theory is sauce, onions, peppers, mushrooms, (so they cook al dente
>> >>> in the sauce) sausage, cheese. I figured that way there wouldn't be
>> >>> any dried out stuff.
>> >>> I was curious how others do it and why.
>> >>> Janet US
>> >>
>> >>Ah. Well here's how I do it:
>> >>
>> >>Brush the crust with garlic-infused olive oil.
>> >>Sprinkle on a little Parmagiano-Reggiano
>> >>Add a couple ounces of shredded provolone. If you can't see the crust
>> >>anymore, that was too much cheese.
>> >>Top with diced tomato and perhaps some thinly sliced onion.
>> >>Bake.
>> >>Sprinkle with a mixture of minced basil and parsley.
>> >>
>> >>Cindy Hamilton
>> >
>> >I do like diced fresh tomato on a pizza.
>> >Janet US
>>
>> I've tried that with Romas but I'd strongly suggest removing the
>> skin... canned diced works well but I prefer whole canned tomatoes
>> hand squished, makes for a better presentation than diced.
>
>What's wrong with the presentation? The pieces of tomato sit on
>top of the pizza with the other toppings.
>
>Cindy Hamilton


Machine diced removes the artisan appeal... also canned diced tomatoes
are not nearly as vine ripened as whole canned tomatoes. I use canned
diced in soups as their being less ripened they are much less likely
to dissolve. But mostly I cook with canned whole peeled tomatoes
because being riper they impart more tomato flavor.

Today for lunch I picked two large ripe tomatoes and three small kirby
cukes... tomatoes sliced into wedges, cukes diced. Topped with fresh
squeezed lemon, and EVOO, s n'p... almost better than spousal sex.
Spousal sex is much better than pre-spousal sex because a loving
spouse does their best to please.

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On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 12:04:30 -0400, wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 09:20:44 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 03:37:02 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 10:44:15 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 21:19:37 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>>> wrote:
>>snip
>>>>
>>>> My theory is sauce, onions, peppers, mushrooms, (so they cook al dente
>>>> in the sauce) sausage, cheese. I figured that way there wouldn't be
>>>> any dried out stuff.
>>>> I was curious how others do it and why.
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>>Ah. Well here's how I do it:
>>>
>>>Brush the crust with garlic-infused olive oil.
>>>Sprinkle on a little Parmagiano-Reggiano
>>>Add a couple ounces of shredded provolone. If you can't see the crust
>>>anymore, that was too much cheese.
>>>Top with diced tomato and perhaps some thinly sliced onion.
>>>Bake.
>>>Sprinkle with a mixture of minced basil and parsley.
>>>
>>>Cindy Hamilton
>>
>>I do like diced fresh tomato on a pizza.
>>Janet US
>
>I've tried that with Romas but I'd strongly suggest removing the
>skin... canned diced works well but I prefer whole canned tomatoes
>hand squished, makes for a better presentation than diced.

the fresh diced tomatoes are a topping rather than a sauce.

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On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 21:33:02 -0500, Hank Rogers >
wrote:

>Je?us wrote:
>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 20:22:39 -0500,
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 17:28:57 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 6:53:16 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the proper order? Sauce then cheese then other stuff? Or
>>>>> sauce, stuff then cheese?
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>
>>>> Sauce, cheese, meat(s), veggies or then meats and you could put a bit more
>>>> cheese on top. It's really any way you like it.
>>>
>>> If you want proper toppings order then it would be flat meats
>>> pepperoni and Canadian bacon, veggies Jalapeno's and pineapple were
>>> after the round meats, then your round meats sausage and ground beef,
>>> then anchovies then if the pizza had added extra cheese that was added
>>> very last.
>>
>> LOL. Proper only in your neck of the woods.
>>
>
>Are they serving english pizza again at the old folks home?
>

I was an asst mgr at dominos in the early 90s

--

____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

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"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 3:24:54 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> Do I spy one there with pineapple??

You do indeed. I also like to use canned tomato paste instead of a prepared
sauce. It's spread thinly on the dough, then seasoned with salt and pepper
and some spaghetti sauce seasoning. If you're making a pizza with the sauce
on top you have to use a prepared sauce. I just used a can of marinara
sauce.

Pretty much what I do:)

Some people will make a double crust pizza but I'm not going to talk about
that. :)

:)))

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On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 2:52:58 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 10:01:18 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 12:04:40 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> >> On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 09:20:44 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 03:37:02 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 10:44:15 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> >>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 21:19:37 -0500, Sqwertz >
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >snip
> >> >>>
> >> >>> My theory is sauce, onions, peppers, mushrooms, (so they cook al dente
> >> >>> in the sauce) sausage, cheese. I figured that way there wouldn't be
> >> >>> any dried out stuff.
> >> >>> I was curious how others do it and why.
> >> >>> Janet US
> >> >>
> >> >>Ah. Well here's how I do it:
> >> >>
> >> >>Brush the crust with garlic-infused olive oil.
> >> >>Sprinkle on a little Parmagiano-Reggiano
> >> >>Add a couple ounces of shredded provolone. If you can't see the crust
> >> >>anymore, that was too much cheese.
> >> >>Top with diced tomato and perhaps some thinly sliced onion.
> >> >>Bake.
> >> >>Sprinkle with a mixture of minced basil and parsley.
> >> >>
> >> >>Cindy Hamilton
> >> >
> >> >I do like diced fresh tomato on a pizza.
> >> >Janet US
> >>
> >> I've tried that with Romas but I'd strongly suggest removing the
> >> skin... canned diced works well but I prefer whole canned tomatoes
> >> hand squished, makes for a better presentation than diced.
> >
> >What's wrong with the presentation? The pieces of tomato sit on
> >top of the pizza with the other toppings.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
>
> Machine diced removes the artisan appeal... also canned diced tomatoes
> are not nearly as vine ripened as whole canned tomatoes.

Ah. I see the problem. I use fresh tomatoes, diced by hand, as
a topping. But no sauce on the pizza.

Cindy Hamilton

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On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 07:33:29 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 10:10:08 AM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 04:17:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>
>> >Follow my link to Pizza Rustica:
>> >
>> ><https://memoriediangelina.com/2013/04/01/pizza-rustica/>
>> >
>> >Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> There are two kinds of pizza, both originating in Italy; Napolitano
>> (thin crust, round) and Siciliano (thick crust, square), both scantily
>> topped. Everything else is a *******ization.
>
>And yet Pizza Rustica is real Italian food.

There's probably a tiny village somewhere in the Italian mountains
where they eat pizzas standing on their heads.

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On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 10:25:35 -0400, wrote:

>On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 23:22:15 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On 2019-08-17 9:24 p.m., Je?us wrote:
>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 17:28:57 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> Janet US
>>>>>
>>>> Sauce, cheese, meat(s), veggies or then meats and you could put a bit more
>>>> cheese on top. It's really any way you like it.
>>>
>>> Never get any agreement on a question like this. I worked at two
>>> gourmet pizza restaurants in my day, always the cheese went on last.
>>
>>Gourmet pizza? Isn't that an oxymoron?
>
>Nah... poetic licence for indicating authentic pizza.

You could start by using buffalo mozzarella.

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On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 10:38:11 -0400, wrote:

>On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 21:56:08 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 6:35:49 PM UTC-10, wrote:
>>> On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 10:26:29 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Jesus almighty! That's about the craziest thing I ever heard! :)
>>> >
>>> Why? Newman's Own frozen pizzas are lip smacking. No chicken in their pork
>>> sausage and a nice thin, crispy crust and several toppings to choose from.
>>
>>I kid, I kid. I'll have to pick one of those babies one of these days. I like to get the cheapest pizza that I can find.
>Those are out of my price range but what the heck, I'll splurge some.
>
>Nothing bad about the occasional frozen pizza, allows me to add my own
>toppings, usually anchovies.

Can't have too much anchovies.

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On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 10:34:29 -0400, wrote:

>On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 20:26:25 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 5:15:12 PM UTC-10, wrote:
>>> On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 9:44:15 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> >
>>> > My theory is sauce, onions, peppers, mushrooms, (so they cook al dente
>>> > in the sauce) sausage, cheese. I figured that way there wouldn't be
>>> > any dried out stuff.
>>> > I was curious how others do it and why.
>>> > Janet US
>>> >
>>> I go to the grocery store and buy a Newman's Own frozen pizza, bring it home,
>>> turn on the oven to 425°. After it has reached the desired temperature I take
>>> it out of the box and take the plastic wrap off the pizza and bake. When done
>>> it's sprinkled with oregano and then enjoyed.
>>
>>Jesus almighty! That's about the craziest thing I ever heard! :)
>
>Not crazy, that's pizza in most of the US. I've eaten pizza in every
>state except Ukulele, the only place I found authentic pizza is in
>parts of NYC. I don't consider any fast food chain pizza authentic

No, they're kitchen sink pizzas, because that's what the masses
expect. I'd call it the pizza "Gary".

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On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 11:47:02 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 11:24:49 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 17:28:57 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 6:53:16 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What is the proper order? Sauce then cheese then other stuff? Or
>>>> sauce, stuff then cheese?
>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>Sauce, cheese, meat(s), veggies or then meats and you could put a bit more
>>>cheese on top. It's really any way you like it.
>>
>>Never get any agreement on a question like this. I worked at two
>>gourmet pizza restaurants in my day, always the cheese went on last.
>
>I'd also do the cheese last. And I'd find an Italian pizza maker on
>Youtube, rather than look at Dominos or Chicago.

Dominos? Eww. Eaten by Bogans~funded by Centrelink.

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On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 04:10:21 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 7:08:02 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 03:42:27 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 11:27:15 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 20:06:40 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 3:47:06 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'd also do the cheese last. And I'd find an Italian pizza maker on
>> >> >> Youtube, rather than look at Dominos or Chicago.
>> >> >
>> >> >Your wish is my command.
>> >> >
>> >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epYiojUSgDE
>> >>
>> >> No, they make Chicago quiches.
>> >
>> >Doesn't a quiche require custard? There are no eggs in the filling of
>> >a Chicago-style pizza.
>>
>> People with Asperger's take everything very literally.
>
>If we were face to face, I might be able to read something out of your
>body language and the tone of your voice. On Usenet, I have no choice
>but to read exactly what you write.

I have Asperger's and I think that usually I can interpret people's
posts OK most of the time.

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On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 23:22:15 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2019-08-17 9:24 p.m., Je?us wrote:
>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 17:28:57 -0700 (PDT), "
>> Janet US
>>>>
>>> Sauce, cheese, meat(s), veggies or then meats and you could put a bit more
>>> cheese on top. It's really any way you like it.
>>
>> Never get any agreement on a question like this. I worked at two
>> gourmet pizza restaurants in my day, always the cheese went on last.
>>
>
>Gourmet pizza? Isn't that an oxymoron?

No. Why? Do you want to eat a decent pizza, or go to Pizza Hut?

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On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 21:22:59 -0500, Spiro Weville
> wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 11:23:36 +1000, Je?us wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 17:31:36 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 1:53:16 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>> What is the proper order? Sauce then cheese then other stuff? Or
>>>> sauce, stuff then cheese?
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>>The proper way is any way that you desire. Don't listen to nobody! Except me.
>>
>> Yeah everyone. Listen to this guy:
>> https://i.postimg.cc/Gmp2GZMs/David-Iwaoka-RFC.jpg
>
>Now, that's just mean! <snork>

He pretty much looks like I imagined too.

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On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 20:44:05 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 21:19:37 -0500, Sqwertz >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 17:53:06 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>>> What is the proper order? Sauce then cheese then other stuff? Or
>>> sauce, stuff then cheese?
>>> Janet US
>>
>>Sauce, dried herbs+spices, cheese, toppings, little more cheese or
>>some grated romano at the end.
>>
>>-sw
>
>My theory is sauce, onions, peppers, mushrooms, (so they cook al dente
>in the sauce) sausage, cheese. I figured that way there wouldn't be
>any dried out stuff.
>I was curious how others do it and why.

I have worked at two restaurants specializing in pizza, and that's
pretty much how we did it. Sauce, veggies/meat then cheese. Obviously
what you cook that pizza IN may affect the ideal sequence of
ingredients.

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On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 08:12:08 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 04:10:21 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>
>>On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 7:08:02 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 03:42:27 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 11:27:15 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>> >> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 20:06:40 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 3:47:06 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I'd also do the cheese last. And I'd find an Italian pizza maker on
>>> >> >> Youtube, rather than look at Dominos or Chicago.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Your wish is my command.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epYiojUSgDE
>>> >>
>>> >> No, they make Chicago quiches.
>>> >
>>> >Doesn't a quiche require custard? There are no eggs in the filling of
>>> >a Chicago-style pizza.
>>>
>>> People with Asperger's take everything very literally.
>>
>>If we were face to face, I might be able to read something out of your
>>body language and the tone of your voice. On Usenet, I have no choice
>>but to read exactly what you write.
>
>I have Asperger's and I think that usually I can interpret people's
>posts OK most of the time.

But you're mentally unstable in your replies.

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On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 08:33:51 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 08:12:08 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 04:10:21 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 7:08:02 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 03:42:27 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 11:27:15 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>> >> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 20:06:40 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 3:47:06 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> I'd also do the cheese last. And I'd find an Italian pizza maker on
>>>> >> >> Youtube, rather than look at Dominos or Chicago.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Your wish is my command.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epYiojUSgDE
>>>> >>
>>>> >> No, they make Chicago quiches.
>>>> >
>>>> >Doesn't a quiche require custard? There are no eggs in the filling of
>>>> >a Chicago-style pizza.
>>>>
>>>> People with Asperger's take everything very literally.
>>>
>>>If we were face to face, I might be able to read something out of your
>>>body language and the tone of your voice. On Usenet, I have no choice
>>>but to read exactly what you write.
>>
>>I have Asperger's and I think that usually I can interpret people's
>>posts OK most of the time.
>
>But you're mentally unstable in your replies.

So you say, which really means nothing.

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On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 22:12:47 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>
>I really thought that people on this group would have personal
>experience making pizza.

I have 2 years experience, but in commercial kitchens. Not at home
though.

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On 2019-08-18 6:13 p.m., Je�us wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 23:22:15 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2019-08-17 9:24 p.m., Je?us wrote:
>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 17:28:57 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> Janet US
>>>>>
>>>> Sauce, cheese, meat(s), veggies or then meats and you could put a bit more
>>>> cheese on top. It's really any way you like it.
>>>
>>> Never get any agreement on a question like this. I worked at two
>>> gourmet pizza restaurants in my day, always the cheese went on last.
>>>
>>
>> Gourmet pizza? Isn't that an oxymoron?
>
> No. Why? Do you want to eat a decent pizza, or go to Pizza Hut?

Some pizzas are definitely better than others, but IMO it is a hell fo a
stretch to call a high end pizza gourmet. I have never been a huge pizza
fan but I do occasionally get a slice from some of the better places,
not chains. I finally tried a wood fired oven pizza.... not at all
impressed. Pizza just can't be gourmet.

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On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 20:10:04 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2019-08-18 6:13 p.m., Je?us wrote:
>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 23:22:15 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2019-08-17 9:24 p.m., Je?us wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 17:28:57 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sauce, cheese, meat(s), veggies or then meats and you could put a bit more
>>>>> cheese on top. It's really any way you like it.
>>>>
>>>> Never get any agreement on a question like this. I worked at two
>>>> gourmet pizza restaurants in my day, always the cheese went on last.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Gourmet pizza? Isn't that an oxymoron?
>>
>> No. Why? Do you want to eat a decent pizza, or go to Pizza Hut?
>
>Some pizzas are definitely better than others

Thanks, Dave.

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On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 20:10:04 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2019-08-18 6:13 p.m., Je?us wrote:
>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 23:22:15 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2019-08-17 9:24 p.m., Je?us wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 17:28:57 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sauce, cheese, meat(s), veggies or then meats and you could put a bit more
>>>>> cheese on top. It's really any way you like it.
>>>>
>>>> Never get any agreement on a question like this. I worked at two
>>>> gourmet pizza restaurants in my day, always the cheese went on last.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Gourmet pizza? Isn't that an oxymoron?
>>
>> No. Why? Do you want to eat a decent pizza, or go to Pizza Hut?
>
>Some pizzas are definitely better than others, but IMO it is a hell fo a
>stretch to call a high end pizza gourmet.

Well, what's your definition of gourmet. and pizza, for that matter?

>I have never been a huge pizza
>fan but I do occasionally get a slice from some of the better places,
>not chains.

'a slice'? That approach is rare in Australia. Here, you buy whole
pizzas. If you don't even like pizzas perhaps you're not really
qualified to judge pizza?

> I finally tried a wood fired oven pizza.... not at all
>impressed. Pizza just can't be gourmet.


LOL, OK. So again, WTF does 'gourmet mean to you? The world doesn't
begin and end with Canada, you know.

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On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 11:22:56 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 20:10:04 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>Some pizzas are definitely better than others, but IMO it is a hell fo a
>>stretch to call a high end pizza gourmet.
>
>Well, what's your definition of gourmet. and pizza, for that matter?
>
>>I have never been a huge pizza
>>fan but I do occasionally get a slice from some of the better places,
>>not chains.
>
>'a slice'? That approach is rare in Australia. Here, you buy whole
>pizzas. If you don't even like pizzas perhaps you're not really
>qualified to judge pizza?
>
>> I finally tried a wood fired oven pizza.... not at all
>>impressed. Pizza just can't be gourmet.
>
>
>LOL, OK. So again, WTF does 'gourmet mean to you? The world doesn't
>begin and end with Canada, you know.

I understand what he means. When you say "gourmet" or "fine dining",
you don't think of pizzas or hotdogs. But pizzas can be excellent food
IMO.

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On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 11:30:15 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 11:22:56 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 20:10:04 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>>
>>>Some pizzas are definitely better than others, but IMO it is a hell fo a
>>>stretch to call a high end pizza gourmet.
>>
>>Well, what's your definition of gourmet. and pizza, for that matter?
>>
>>>I have never been a huge pizza
>>>fan but I do occasionally get a slice from some of the better places,
>>>not chains.
>>
>>'a slice'? That approach is rare in Australia. Here, you buy whole
>>pizzas. If you don't even like pizzas perhaps you're not really
>>qualified to judge pizza?
>>
>>> I finally tried a wood fired oven pizza.... not at all
>>>impressed. Pizza just can't be gourmet.
>>
>>
>>LOL, OK. So again, WTF does 'gourmet mean to you? The world doesn't
>>begin and end with Canada, you know.
>
>I understand what he means. When you say "gourmet" or "fine dining",
>you don't think of pizzas or hotdogs.

As in a ritzy restaurant?

>But pizzas can be excellent food
>IMO.

I agree, there's no reason why they can't be gourmet. Maybe Dave just
views pizza as fast food (which real pizza isn't).

I worked in two pizza restaurant in the 1990's. Both were (at least in
Australia) defined as gourmet pizza. Quality flour used and based made
ach morning (as was the sauce), ingredients like smoked chicken, duck,
artichokes, sundried tomatoes, various cheeses, seafood etc. Totally
unlike Pizza hut or Dominos.

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On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 11:37:54 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 11:30:15 +1000, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 11:22:56 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 20:10:04 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Some pizzas are definitely better than others, but IMO it is a hell fo a
>>>>stretch to call a high end pizza gourmet.
>>>
>>>Well, what's your definition of gourmet. and pizza, for that matter?
>>>
>>>>I have never been a huge pizza
>>>>fan but I do occasionally get a slice from some of the better places,
>>>>not chains.
>>>
>>>'a slice'? That approach is rare in Australia. Here, you buy whole
>>>pizzas. If you don't even like pizzas perhaps you're not really
>>>qualified to judge pizza?
>>>
>>>> I finally tried a wood fired oven pizza.... not at all
>>>>impressed. Pizza just can't be gourmet.
>>>
>>>
>>>LOL, OK. So again, WTF does 'gourmet mean to you? The world doesn't
>>>begin and end with Canada, you know.
>>
>>I understand what he means. When you say "gourmet" or "fine dining",
>>you don't think of pizzas or hotdogs.
>
>As in a ritzy restaurant?

Yes, ritzy and often a bit stiff.

>>But pizzas can be excellent food IMO.
>
>I agree, there's no reason why they can't be gourmet. Maybe Dave just
>views pizza as fast food (which real pizza isn't).
>
>I worked in two pizza restaurant in the 1990's. Both were (at least in
>Australia) defined as gourmet pizza. Quality flour used and based made
>ach morning (as was the sauce), ingredients like smoked chicken, duck,
>artichokes, sundried tomatoes, various cheeses, seafood etc. Totally
>unlike Pizza hut or Dominos.

Yes, the latter probably use pink slime and fake cheese.

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On 2019-08-18 9:22 p.m., Je�us wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 20:10:04 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2019-08-18 6:13 p.m., Je?us wrote:
>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 23:22:15 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2019-08-17 9:24 p.m., Je?us wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 17:28:57 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sauce, cheese, meat(s), veggies or then meats and you could put a bit more
>>>>>> cheese on top. It's really any way you like it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Never get any agreement on a question like this. I worked at two
>>>>> gourmet pizza restaurants in my day, always the cheese went on last.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gourmet pizza? Isn't that an oxymoron?
>>>
>>> No. Why? Do you want to eat a decent pizza, or go to Pizza Hut?
>>
>> Some pizzas are definitely better than others, but IMO it is a hell fo a
>> stretch to call a high end pizza gourmet.
>
> Well, what's your definition of gourmet. and pizza, for that matter?
>
>> I have never been a huge pizza
>> fan but I do occasionally get a slice from some of the better places,
>> not chains.
>
> 'a slice'? That approach is rare in Australia. Here, you buy whole
> pizzas. If you don't even like pizzas perhaps you're not really
> qualified to judge pizza?
>
>> I finally tried a wood fired oven pizza.... not at all
>> impressed. Pizza just can't be gourmet.
>
>
> LOL, OK. So again, WTF does 'gourmet mean to you? The world doesn't
> begin and end with Canada, you know.
>


Check put this list of oxymorons. Under G is "gourmet pizza"

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On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 21:55:31 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2019-08-18 9:22 p.m., Je?us wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 20:10:04 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2019-08-18 6:13 p.m., Je?us wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 23:22:15 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2019-08-17 9:24 p.m., Je?us wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 17:28:57 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sauce, cheese, meat(s), veggies or then meats and you could put a bit more
>>>>>>> cheese on top. It's really any way you like it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Never get any agreement on a question like this. I worked at two
>>>>>> gourmet pizza restaurants in my day, always the cheese went on last.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gourmet pizza? Isn't that an oxymoron?
>>>>
>>>> No. Why? Do you want to eat a decent pizza, or go to Pizza Hut?
>>>
>>> Some pizzas are definitely better than others, but IMO it is a hell fo a
>>> stretch to call a high end pizza gourmet.
>>
>> Well, what's your definition of gourmet. and pizza, for that matter?
>>
>>> I have never been a huge pizza
>>> fan but I do occasionally get a slice from some of the better places,
>>> not chains.
>>
>> 'a slice'? That approach is rare in Australia. Here, you buy whole
>> pizzas. If you don't even like pizzas perhaps you're not really
>> qualified to judge pizza?
>>
>>> I finally tried a wood fired oven pizza.... not at all
>>> impressed. Pizza just can't be gourmet.
>>
>>
>> LOL, OK. So again, WTF does 'gourmet mean to you? The world doesn't
>> begin and end with Canada, you know.
>>
>
>
>Check put this list of oxymorons. Under G is "gourmet pizza"

Well, that explains your novel take on 'gourmet'. Thanks, Dave.

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"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 10:25:35 -0400, wrote:

>On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 23:22:15 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On 2019-08-17 9:24 p.m., Je?us wrote:
>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 17:28:57 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> Janet US
>>>>>
>>>> Sauce, cheese, meat(s), veggies or then meats and you could put a bit
>>>> more
>>>> cheese on top. It's really any way you like it.
>>>
>>> Never get any agreement on a question like this. I worked at two
>>> gourmet pizza restaurants in my day, always the cheese went on last.
>>
>>Gourmet pizza? Isn't that an oxymoron?
>
>Nah... poetic licence for indicating authentic pizza.

You could start by using buffalo mozzarella.

===

That is what I use:)

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"Jeßus" wrote in message ...

On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 11:30:15 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 11:22:56 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 20:10:04 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>>
>>>Some pizzas are definitely better than others, but IMO it is a hell fo a
>>>stretch to call a high end pizza gourmet.
>>
>>Well, what's your definition of gourmet. and pizza, for that matter?
>>
>>>I have never been a huge pizza
>>>fan but I do occasionally get a slice from some of the better places,
>>>not chains.
>>
>>'a slice'? That approach is rare in Australia. Here, you buy whole
>>pizzas. If you don't even like pizzas perhaps you're not really
>>qualified to judge pizza?
>>
>>> I finally tried a wood fired oven pizza.... not at all
>>>impressed. Pizza just can't be gourmet.
>>
>>
>>LOL, OK. So again, WTF does 'gourmet mean to you? The world doesn't
>>begin and end with Canada, you know.
>
>I understand what he means. When you say "gourmet" or "fine dining",
>you don't think of pizzas or hotdogs.

As in a ritzy restaurant?

>But pizzas can be excellent food
>IMO.

I agree, there's no reason why they can't be gourmet. Maybe Dave just
views pizza as fast food (which real pizza isn't).

I worked in two pizza restaurant in the 1990's. Both were (at least in
Australia) defined as gourmet pizza. Quality flour used and based made
ach morning (as was the sauce), ingredients like smoked chicken, duck,
artichokes, sundried tomatoes, various cheeses, seafood etc. Totally
unlike Pizza hut or Dominos.

====

I lived in Malta for a few years back in the days. That is where I
learned to make my pizza.

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On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 10:29:13 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message ...
>
>On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 10:25:35 -0400, wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 23:22:15 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2019-08-17 9:24 p.m., Je?us wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 17:28:57 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sauce, cheese, meat(s), veggies or then meats and you could put a bit
>>>>> more
>>>>> cheese on top. It's really any way you like it.
>>>>
>>>> Never get any agreement on a question like this. I worked at two
>>>> gourmet pizza restaurants in my day, always the cheese went on last.
>>>
>>>Gourmet pizza? Isn't that an oxymoron?
>>
>>Nah... poetic licence for indicating authentic pizza.
>
>You could start by using buffalo mozzarella.
>
>===
>
> That is what I use:)

Well, that beats fake whey cheese!

(Or as Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall would say: "Whey to go!")

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On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 4:48:15 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 07:33:29 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 10:10:08 AM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> >> On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 04:17:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >> > wrote:
> >
> >> >Follow my link to Pizza Rustica:
> >> >
> >> ><https://memoriediangelina.com/2013/04/01/pizza-rustica/>
> >> >
> >> >Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >> There are two kinds of pizza, both originating in Italy; Napolitano
> >> (thin crust, round) and Siciliano (thick crust, square), both scantily
> >> topped. Everything else is a *******ization.
> >
> >And yet Pizza Rustica is real Italian food.
>
> There's probably a tiny village somewhere in the Italian mountains
> where they eat pizzas standing on their heads.

True, but irrelevant. I first became aware of pizza rustica about
40 years ago.

Cindy Hamilton

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On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 03:07:27 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 4:48:15 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 07:33:29 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 10:10:08 AM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 04:17:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> >> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> >Follow my link to Pizza Rustica:
>> >> >
>> >> ><https://memoriediangelina.com/2013/04/01/pizza-rustica/>
>> >> >
>> >> >Cindy Hamilton
>> >>
>> >> There are two kinds of pizza, both originating in Italy; Napolitano
>> >> (thin crust, round) and Siciliano (thick crust, square), both scantily
>> >> topped. Everything else is a *******ization.
>> >
>> >And yet Pizza Rustica is real Italian food.
>>
>> There's probably a tiny village somewhere in the Italian mountains
>> where they eat pizzas standing on their heads.
>
>True, but irrelevant.

Yes, that was my point.

>I first became aware of pizza rustica about 40 years ago.

Well, ok.

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On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 6:12:14 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 04:10:21 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 7:08:02 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 03:42:27 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 11:27:15 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 20:06:40 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 3:47:06 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I'd also do the cheese last. And I'd find an Italian pizza maker on
> >> >> >> Youtube, rather than look at Dominos or Chicago.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Your wish is my command.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epYiojUSgDE
> >> >>
> >> >> No, they make Chicago quiches.
> >> >
> >> >Doesn't a quiche require custard? There are no eggs in the filling of
> >> >a Chicago-style pizza.
> >>
> >> People with Asperger's take everything very literally.
> >
> >If we were face to face, I might be able to read something out of your
> >body language and the tone of your voice. On Usenet, I have no choice
> >but to read exactly what you write.
>
> I have Asperger's and I think that usually I can interpret people's
> posts OK most of the time.

Yes, I probably should apply the "Bruce Discount Factor" and just assume
everything he posts is a cheap shot.

Cindy Hamilton

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On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 03:11:41 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 6:12:14 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 04:10:21 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 7:08:02 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 03:42:27 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 11:27:15 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> >> >> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 20:06:40 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 3:47:06 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I'd also do the cheese last. And I'd find an Italian pizza maker on
>> >> >> >> Youtube, rather than look at Dominos or Chicago.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Your wish is my command.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epYiojUSgDE
>> >> >>
>> >> >> No, they make Chicago quiches.
>> >> >
>> >> >Doesn't a quiche require custard? There are no eggs in the filling of
>> >> >a Chicago-style pizza.
>> >>
>> >> People with Asperger's take everything very literally.
>> >
>> >If we were face to face, I might be able to read something out of your
>> >body language and the tone of your voice. On Usenet, I have no choice
>> >but to read exactly what you write.
>>
>> I have Asperger's and I think that usually I can interpret people's
>> posts OK most of the time.
>
>Yes, I probably should apply the "Bruce Discount Factor" and just assume
>everything he posts is a cheap shot.

Hey, a cheap shot from Cindy.

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'Lil' Bruce wrote:

> wrote:
> >I don't consider any fast food chain pizza authentic

> No, they're kitchen sink pizzas, because that's what the masses
> expect. I'd call it the pizza "Gary".

Perhaps you should try "Gary's Own" Broccoli-garlic White Pizza
someday.

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"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 10:29:13 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 10:25:35 -0400, wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 23:22:15 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2019-08-17 9:24 p.m., Je?us wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 17:28:57 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sauce, cheese, meat(s), veggies or then meats and you could put a bit
>>>>> more
>>>>> cheese on top. It's really any way you like it.
>>>>
>>>> Never get any agreement on a question like this. I worked at two
>>>> gourmet pizza restaurants in my day, always the cheese went on last.
>>>
>>>Gourmet pizza? Isn't that an oxymoron?
>>
>>Nah... poetic licence for indicating authentic pizza.
>
>You could start by using buffalo mozzarella.
>
>===
>
> That is what I use:)

Well, that beats fake whey cheese!

(Or as Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall would say: "Whey to go!")

===

Heh!

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Sqwertz wrote:
>
> wrote:
> > Most pizzarias top with canned 'shrooms and so do I
>
> Only in the Northeast, that I've noticed, do they use canned
> shrooms.

How TIAD is that?

> I sautee first. Much more flavor than canned.

I always buy fresh mushrooms, slice them thick and sautee them to
perfection. Only time I don't do that first is if they go into a
sauce and get cooked a bit anyway.