Like chicken wings, popularity has jacked the price in recent years. I
used to buy brisket for $1.39, now it is $3.99 for a packer cut.

https://tinyurl.com/yxe3os2z

On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 9:18:23 AM UTC-7, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Like chicken wings, popularity has jacked the price in recent years. I
> used to buy brisket for $1.39, now it is $3.99 for a packer cut.
>
> https://tinyurl.com/yxe3os2z

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brisket...-for-barbecue/

On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 12:18:20 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>Like chicken wings, popularity has jacked the price in recent years. I
>used to buy brisket for $1.39, now it is $3.99 for a packer cut.
>
>https://tinyurl.com/yxe3os2z

I used to pay $.89/# . That was when I first started doing smoked
stuff. That memory keeps me from buying brisket at current prices.

On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 6:18:23 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Like chicken wings, popularity has jacked the price in recent years. I
> used to buy brisket for $1.39, now it is $3.99 for a packer cut.
>
> https://tinyurl.com/yxe3os2z

My guess is that in 20 years or so, meat will be considered exotic, taboo, material. You won't be able to get real brisket for any price. Plan accordingly.

On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:18:23 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Like chicken wings, popularity has jacked the price in recent years. I
> used to buy brisket for $1.39, now it is $3.99 for a packer cut.
>
> https://tinyurl.com/yxe3os2z
>
Well, it didn't upset me as I've never seen it below $3.99 per pound here.
Ever.

wrote:
> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:18:23 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> Like chicken wings, popularity has jacked the price in recent years. I
>> used to buy brisket for $1.39, now it is $3.99 for a packer cut.
>>
>> https://tinyurl.com/yxe3os2z
>>
> Well, it didn't upset me as I've never seen it below $3.99 per pound here.
> Ever.
>

Many years ago, I never saw brisket anywhere around here. I wonder
if they ground it up into hamburg back then? Chicken wings also were
mostly used for stock making. But now these meats are very popular
and command high prices.

On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 8:39:14 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:18:23 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> > Like chicken wings, popularity has jacked the price in recent years. I
> > used to buy brisket for $1.39, now it is $3.99 for a packer cut.
> >
> > https://tinyurl.com/yxe3os2z
> >
> Well, it didn't upset me as I've never seen it below $3.99 per pound here.
> Ever.

Chicken wing must have been cheap back in the old days. We used to grill teriyaki wings and back then, people mostly stuck with cheap meat since we were poor folk. They were Frenched wings and they were quite tasty.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/aCUi7UaQT3C122ENA

On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 2:48:03 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>
> wrote:
> >
> > Well, it didn't upset me as I've never seen it below $3.99 per pound here.
> > Ever.
> >
>
> Many years ago, I never saw brisket anywhere around here. I wonder
> if they ground it up into hamburg back then? Chicken wings also were
> mostly used for stock making. But now these meats are very popular
> and command high prices.
>
Yeah, the price of chicken wings sometimes makes me think I should just spring
for a New York strip steak.

wrote:
> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 2:48:03 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, it didn't upset me as I've never seen it below $3.99 per pound here.
>>> Ever.
>>>
>>
>> Many years ago, I never saw brisket anywhere around here. I wonder
>> if they ground it up into hamburg back then? Chicken wings also were
>> mostly used for stock making. But now these meats are very popular
>> and command high prices.
>>
> Yeah, the price of chicken wings sometimes makes me think I should just spring
> for a New York strip steak.
>

Seems like butchers just chop the wings off and throw the rest of
the bird out the window.

On 8/3/2019 2:39 PM, wrote:
> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:18:23 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> Like chicken wings, popularity has jacked the price in recent years. I
>> used to buy brisket for $1.39, now it is $3.99 for a packer cut.
>>
>> https://tinyurl.com/yxe3os2z
>>
> Well, it didn't upset me as I've never seen it below $3.99 per pound here.
> Ever.
>

The 3.99 is for the whole packer cut. The flat is more like 7.99.

On 8/3/2019 4:09 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 8:39:14 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:18:23 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>> Like chicken wings, popularity has jacked the price in recent years. I
>>> used to buy brisket for $1.39, now it is $3.99 for a packer cut.
>>>
>>> https://tinyurl.com/yxe3os2z
>>>
>> Well, it didn't upset me as I've never seen it below $3.99 per pound here.
>> Ever.
>
> Chicken wing must have been cheap back in the old days. We used to grill teriyaki wings and back then, people mostly stuck with cheap meat since we were poor folk. They were Frenched wings and they were quite tasty.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/aCUi7UaQT3C122ENA
>

I used to be able to buy wings for 5 cents a pound. Adjusted for
inflation, that would be 40 cents today. Not the 2.49 they get now.

On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 18:52:54 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 8/3/2019 4:09 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 8:39:14 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:18:23 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Like chicken wings, popularity has jacked the price in recent years. I
>>>> used to buy brisket for $1.39, now it is $3.99 for a packer cut.
>>>>
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/yxe3os2z
>>>>
>>> Well, it didn't upset me as I've never seen it below $3.99 per pound here.
>>> Ever.
>>
>> Chicken wing must have been cheap back in the old days. We used to grill teriyaki wings and back then, people mostly stuck with cheap meat since we were poor folk. They were Frenched wings and they were quite tasty.
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/aCUi7UaQT3C122ENA
>>
>
>I used to be able to buy wings for 5 cents a pound. Adjusted for
>inflation, that would be 40 cents today. Not the 2.49 they get now.

It's still too cheap.

On 8/3/2019 6:52 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/3/2019 4:09 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 8:39:14 AM UTC-10,
>> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:18:23 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Like chicken wings, popularity has jacked the price in recent years.Â* I
>>>> used to buy brisket for $1.39, now it is $3.99 for a packer cut.
>>>>
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/yxe3os2z
>>>>
>>> Well, it didn't upset me as I've never seen it below $3.99 per pound
>>> here.
>>> Ever.
>>
>> Chicken wing must have been cheap back in the old days. We used to
>> grill teriyaki wings and back then, people mostly stuck with cheap
>> meat since we were poor folk. They were Frenched wings and they were
>> quite tasty.
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/aCUi7UaQT3C122ENA
>>
>
> I used to be able to buy wings for 5 cents a pound.Â* Adjusted for
> inflation, that would be 40 cents today.Â* Not the 2.49 they get now.

I never really understood the fascination with chicken wings. Yeah,
yeah, Buffalo and a bar and some hot sauce. Oh, and some bleu cheese
dip and celery. There's not much meat on chicken wings. But hey, as
bar food it worked. And caught on.

Same thing with flank steak. Suddenly needed for things like fajitas or
Chinese beef & broccoli so the price skyrocketed. Mom used to buy it
for 39 cents/lb. Last time I checked it was $14/lb. A very tough cut
of meat that has to be marinated (or, I supposed these days soux vide)
and very thinly sliced when served. Otherwise it's expensive shoe leather.

Jill

Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 18:52:54 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 8/3/2019 4:09 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 8:39:14 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:18:23 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Like chicken wings, popularity has jacked the price in recent years. I
>>>>> used to buy brisket for $1.39, now it is $3.99 for a packer cut.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/yxe3os2z
>>>>>
>>>> Well, it didn't upset me as I've never seen it below $3.99 per pound here.
>>>> Ever.
>>>
>>> Chicken wing must have been cheap back in the old days. We used to grill teriyaki wings and back then, people mostly stuck with cheap meat since we were poor folk. They were Frenched wings and they were quite tasty.
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/aCUi7UaQT3C122ENA
>>>
>>
>> I used to be able to buy wings for 5 cents a pound. Adjusted for
>> inflation, that would be 40 cents today. Not the 2.49 they get now.
>
> It's still too cheap.
>

In Ausatralia, don't they just snip off the wings and turn the
chicken loose so it grows new ones?

On 2019-08-03 6:09 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/3/2019 6:52 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 8/3/2019 4:09 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 8:39:14 AM UTC-10,
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:18:23 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Like chicken wings, popularity has jacked the price in recent
>>>>> years.Â* I
>>>>> used to buy brisket for $1.39, now it is $3.99 for a packer cut.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/yxe3os2z
>>>>>
>>>> Well, it didn't upset me as I've never seen it below $3.99 per pound
>>>> here.
>>>> Ever.
>>>
>>> Chicken wing must have been cheap back in the old days. We used to
>>> grill teriyaki wings and back then, people mostly stuck with cheap
>>> meat since we were poor folk. They were Frenched wings and they were
>>> quite tasty.
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/aCUi7UaQT3C122ENA
>>>
>>
>> I used to be able to buy wings for 5 cents a pound.Â* Adjusted for
>> inflation, that would be 40 cents today.Â* Not the 2.49 they get now.
>
> I never really understood the fascination with chicken wings.Â* Yeah,
> yeah, Buffalo and a bar and some hot sauce.Â* Oh, and some bleu cheese
> dip and celery.Â* There's not much meat on chicken wings.Â* But hey, as
> bar food it worked.Â* And caught on.
>
> Same thing with flank steak.Â* Suddenly needed for things like fajitas or
> Chinese beef & broccoli so the price skyrocketed.Â* Mom used to buy it
> for 39 cents/lb.Â* Last time I checked it was $14/lb.Â* A very tough cut
> of meat that has to be marinated (or, I supposed these days soux vide)
> and very thinly sliced when served.Â* Otherwise it's expensive shoe leather.
>
> Jill
I have never understood the high price for "stewing beef", which is
mostly shin, and what should be the cheapest cut.

On 8/3/2019 8:49 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2019-08-03 6:09 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 8/3/2019 6:52 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 8/3/2019 4:09 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 8:39:14 AM UTC-10,
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:18:23 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like chicken wings, popularity has jacked the price in recent
>>>>>> years.Â* I
>>>>>> used to buy brisket for $1.39, now it is $3.99 for a packer cut.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/yxe3os2z
>>>>>>
>>>>> Well, it didn't upset me as I've never seen it below $3.99 per
>>>>> pound here.
>>>>> Ever.
>>>>
>>>> Chicken wing must have been cheap back in the old days. We used to
>>>> grill teriyaki wings and back then, people mostly stuck with cheap
>>>> meat since we were poor folk. They were Frenched wings and they were
>>>> quite tasty.
>>>>
>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/aCUi7UaQT3C122ENA
>>>>
>>>
>>> I used to be able to buy wings for 5 cents a pound.Â* Adjusted for
>>> inflation, that would be 40 cents today.Â* Not the 2.49 they get now.
>>
>> I never really understood the fascination with chicken wings.Â* Yeah,
>> yeah, Buffalo and a bar and some hot sauce.Â* Oh, and some bleu cheese
>> dip and celery.Â* There's not much meat on chicken wings.Â* But hey, as
>> bar food it worked.Â* And caught on.
>>
>> Same thing with flank steak.Â* Suddenly needed for things like fajitas
>> or Chinese beef & broccoli so the price skyrocketed.Â* Mom used to buy
>> it for 39 cents/lb.Â* Last time I checked it was $14/lb.Â* A very tough
>> cut of meat that has to be marinated (or, I supposed these days soux
>> vide) and very thinly sliced when served.Â* Otherwise it's expensive
>> shoe leather.
>>
>> Jill
> I have never understood the high price for "stewing beef", which is
> mostly shin, and what should be the cheapest cut.

Well, I've never seen what you call shin beef. Anything labelled "stew
beef", however, I know will be very tough and I've no idea why it costs
so much. I don't purchase it.

Jill

On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 8:11:56 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 8/3/2019 8:49 PM, graham wrote:
> >
> > I have never understood the high price for "stewing beef", which is
> > mostly shin, and what should be the cheapest cut.
>
> Well, I've never seen what you call shin beef. Anything labelled "stew
> beef", however, I know will be very tough and I've no idea why it costs
> so much. I don't purchase it.
>
> Jill
>
Stew meat is quite good in vegetable beef soup or as beef stroganoff and
benefits for a long and slow cooking or the pressure cooker. I guess we're
paying for the convenience of someone else cutting the meat into chunks.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Like chicken wings, popularity has jacked the price in recent years.
> I used to buy brisket for $1.39, now it is $3.99 for a packer cut.
>
> https://tinyurl.com/yxe3os2z
>

Yup. At least pork shoulders go on sale for a decent price fairly often.

On 2019-08-03 7:11 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/3/2019 8:49 PM, graham wrote:
>> On 2019-08-03 6:09 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 8/3/2019 6:52 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 8/3/2019 4:09 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 8:39:14 AM UTC-10,
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:18:23 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like chicken wings, popularity has jacked the price in recent
>>>>>>> years.Â* I
>>>>>>> used to buy brisket for $1.39, now it is $3.99 for a packer cut.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/yxe3os2z
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, it didn't upset me as I've never seen it below $3.99 per
>>>>>> pound here.
>>>>>> Ever.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chicken wing must have been cheap back in the old days. We used to
>>>>> grill teriyaki wings and back then, people mostly stuck with cheap
>>>>> meat since we were poor folk. They were Frenched wings and they
>>>>> were quite tasty.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/aCUi7UaQT3C122ENA
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I used to be able to buy wings for 5 cents a pound.Â* Adjusted for
>>>> inflation, that would be 40 cents today.Â* Not the 2.49 they get now.
>>>
>>> I never really understood the fascination with chicken wings.Â* Yeah,
>>> yeah, Buffalo and a bar and some hot sauce.Â* Oh, and some bleu cheese
>>> dip and celery.Â* There's not much meat on chicken wings.Â* But hey, as
>>> bar food it worked.Â* And caught on.
>>>
>>> Same thing with flank steak.Â* Suddenly needed for things like fajitas
>>> or Chinese beef & broccoli so the price skyrocketed.Â* Mom used to buy
>>> it for 39 cents/lb.Â* Last time I checked it was $14/lb.Â* A very tough
>>> cut of meat that has to be marinated (or, I supposed these days soux
>>> vide) and very thinly sliced when served.Â* Otherwise it's expensive
>>> shoe leather.
>>>
>>> Jill
>> I have never understood the high price for "stewing beef", which is
>> mostly shin, and what should be the cheapest cut.
>
> Well, I've never seen what you call shin beef.Â* Anything labelled "stew
> beef", however, I know will be very tough and I've no idea why it costs
> so much.Â* I don't purchase it.
>
> Jill
It's obvious where it originates on the animal. In the UK it's called
"shin" and in Australia I saw it called "gravy beef". It is extremely
tough and needs long cooking. My mother used it for stews that often
simmered all day.

On 2019-08-03 7:33 p.m., wrote:
> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 8:11:56 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 8/3/2019 8:49 PM, graham wrote:
>>>
>>> I have never understood the high price for "stewing beef", which is
>>> mostly shin, and what should be the cheapest cut.
>>
>> Well, I've never seen what you call shin beef. Anything labelled "stew
>> beef", however, I know will be very tough and I've no idea why it costs
>> so much. I don't purchase it.
>>
>> Jill
>>
> Stew meat is quite good in vegetable beef soup or as beef stroganoff and
> benefits for a long and slow cooking or the pressure cooker. I guess we're
> paying for the convenience of someone else cutting the meat into chunks.
>
I wondered whether the stupidly high price was because it is ~100% lean.

On 2019-08-03 7:42 p.m., Alex wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> Like chicken wings, popularity has jacked the price in recent years. I
>> used to buy brisket for $1.39, now it is $3.99 for a packer cut.
>>
>> https://tinyurl.com/yxe3os2z
>>
>
> Yup.Â* At least pork shoulders go on sale for a decent price fairly often.

Especially since China is cutting pork imports as a retaliatory measure.

On 8/3/2019 8:14 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 18:52:54 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/3/2019 4:09 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 8:39:14 AM UTC-10,
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:18:23 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like chicken wings, popularity has jacked the price in recent
>>>>>> years.Â* I
>>>>>> used to buy brisket for $1.39, now it is $3.99 for a packer cut.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/yxe3os2z
>>>>>>
>>>>> Well, it didn't upset me as I've never seen it below $3.99 per
>>>>> pound here.
>>>>> Ever.
>>>>
>>>> Chicken wing must have been cheap back in the old days. We used to
>>>> grill teriyaki wings and back then, people mostly stuck with cheap
>>>> meat since we were poor folk. They were Frenched wings and they were
>>>> quite tasty.
>>>>
>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/aCUi7UaQT3C122ENA
>>>>
>>>
>>> I used to be able to buy wings for 5 cents a pound.Â* Adjusted for
>>> inflation, that would be 40 cents today.Â* Not the 2.49 they get now.
>>
>> It's still too cheap.
>>
>
> In Ausatralia, don't they just snip off the wings and turn the chicken
> loose so it grows new ones?
>
>

I was visiting a farm one day and the farmer showed me his prize pig.
Said he won a few ribbons at the Fair. I asked him why he was missing a
leg. Farmer said "when you have a good prize pig, you don't want to eat
him all at once."

On 8/3/2019 8:09 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/3/2019 6:52 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 8/3/2019 4:09 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 8:39:14 AM UTC-10,
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:18:23 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Like chicken wings, popularity has jacked the price in recent
>>>>> years.Â* I
>>>>> used to buy brisket for $1.39, now it is $3.99 for a packer cut.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/yxe3os2z
>>>>>
>>>> Well, it didn't upset me as I've never seen it below $3.99 per pound
>>>> here.
>>>> Ever.
>>>
>>> Chicken wing must have been cheap back in the old days. We used to
>>> grill teriyaki wings and back then, people mostly stuck with cheap
>>> meat since we were poor folk. They were Frenched wings and they were
>>> quite tasty.
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/aCUi7UaQT3C122ENA
>>>
>>
>> I used to be able to buy wings for 5 cents a pound.Â* Adjusted for
>> inflation, that would be 40 cents today.Â* Not the 2.49 they get now.
>
> I never really understood the fascination with chicken wings.Â* Yeah,
> yeah, Buffalo and a bar and some hot sauce.Â* Oh, and some bleu cheese
> dip and celery.Â* There's not much meat on chicken wings.Â* But hey, as
> bar food it worked.Â* And caught on.

I don't like Buffalo winds and I'm POd at the guy that invented them and
drove the price up. I just like them roasted in the oven. The ratio of
shin to meat is what makes them tasty. Done right, the skin is crispy
and you have a nice bit of meat. They are not health food.

On 8/3/2019 9:46 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2019-08-03 7:11 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 8/3/2019 8:49 PM, graham wrote:
>>> On 2019-08-03 6:09 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 8/3/2019 6:52 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>> On 8/3/2019 4:09 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 8:39:14 AM UTC-10,
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:18:23 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Like chicken wings, popularity has jacked the price in recent
>>>>>>>> years.Â* I
>>>>>>>> used to buy brisket for $1.39, now it is $3.99 for a packer cut.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/yxe3os2z
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, it didn't upset me as I've never seen it below $3.99 per
>>>>>>> pound here.
>>>>>>> Ever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chicken wing must have been cheap back in the old days. We used to
>>>>>> grill teriyaki wings and back then, people mostly stuck with cheap
>>>>>> meat since we were poor folk. They were Frenched wings and they
>>>>>> were quite tasty.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/aCUi7UaQT3C122ENA
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I used to be able to buy wings for 5 cents a pound.Â* Adjusted for
>>>>> inflation, that would be 40 cents today.Â* Not the 2.49 they get now.
>>>>
>>>> I never really understood the fascination with chicken wings.Â* Yeah,
>>>> yeah, Buffalo and a bar and some hot sauce.Â* Oh, and some bleu
>>>> cheese dip and celery.Â* There's not much meat on chicken wings.Â* But
>>>> hey, as bar food it worked.Â* And caught on.
>>>>
>>>> Same thing with flank steak.Â* Suddenly needed for things like
>>>> fajitas or Chinese beef & broccoli so the price skyrocketed.Â* Mom
>>>> used to buy it for 39 cents/lb.Â* Last time I checked it was $14/lb.
>>>> A very tough cut of meat that has to be marinated (or, I supposed
>>>> these days soux vide) and very thinly sliced when served.Â* Otherwise
>>>> it's expensive shoe leather.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>> I have never understood the high price for "stewing beef", which is
>>> mostly shin, and what should be the cheapest cut.
>>
>> Well, I've never seen what you call shin beef.Â* Anything labelled
>> "stew beef", however, I know will be very tough and I've no idea why
>> it costs so much.Â* I don't purchase it.
>>
>> Jill
> It's obvious where it originates on the animal. In the UK it's called
> "shin" and in Australia I saw it called "gravy beef". It is extremely
> tough and needs long cooking. My mother used it for stews that often
> simmered all day.

I hear you, but I don't find cuts labelled that way in any of the states
I've lived in. Nothing called "shin" or "gravy beef". Stew beef, yes.
I don't buy stew beef because I'm not willing to pay more for someone to
cut an extra tough cut of beef into chunks for me. I buy a nice roast
and cut it into pieces myself. I know the cut because I selected it. I
am not familiar with "shin beef" but it sounds like it's on the bone.
Shin bone. Doesn't sound like it would have a lot of meat on it. Not
familiar, sorry.

Jill

On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 21:43:45 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 20:09:15 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I never really understood the fascination with chicken wings. Yeah,
>> yeah, Buffalo and a bar and some hot sauce. Oh, and some bleu cheese
>> dip and celery. There's not much meat on chicken wings. But hey, as
>> bar food it worked. And caught on.
>
>Salt, fat, cholesterol. And messy. Wings are the evilist part of
>the chicken health-wise. Well, other then raw, still warm chicken
>viscera.

Don't bring up health, Steve. People might think you look at
ingredients.

On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 12:52:56 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> I used to be able to buy wings for 5 cents a pound. Adjusted for
> inflation, that would be 40 cents today. Not the 2.49 they get now.

A friend of mine said it was a real joy to watch my Chinese friend eat chicken. When he was done, there would be a neat pile of bone on a dish. It's clear to me that any people that can eat a chicken like that will one day rule the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25SLTtOXGEU

On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 21:50:07 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 19:49:09 -0600, graham wrote:
>
>> On 2019-08-03 7:42 p.m., Alex wrote:
>
>>> Yup.Â* At least pork shoulders go on sale for a decent price fairly often.
>>
>> Especially since China is cutting pork imports as a retaliatory measure.
>
>African swine fever is still in full bloom there now and is
>reportedly worse than they'll admit.
>
>Note that "banning pork imports from the U.S" doesn't include us
>shipping pork to China for processing and have them ship it back to
>us (McRib patties, for example). I'm sure they're gonna be pinching
>some of that pork and stuffing it in their pockets, too :-)

I wouldn't like it if the cheap ass, shortcut loving, human manure
oriented, melamine leaking Chinese got their hands on my food before I
ate it.

On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 21:06:56 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sat, 03 Aug 2019 11:37:02 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 12:18:20 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>>Like chicken wings, popularity has jacked the price in recent years. I
>>>used to buy brisket for $1.39, now it is $3.99 for a packer cut.
>>>
>>>https://tinyurl.com/yxe3os2z
>>
>> I used to pay $.89/# . That was when I first started doing smoked
>> stuff. That memory keeps me from buying brisket at current prices.
>
>When I first moved to Texas in 200, it was $.49/lb. HEB sold
>pre-smoked refrigerated briskets for $2.99/lb - a 6X markup for a
>roughly $20 profit. Now they're $14/lb which is still a 6X markup,
>but the profit goes up exponentially to $116 for the same exact
>product - no extra labor and other overhead. The price of the raw
>product only went up $17 but the profit went up $86. That's ****ed
>up.
>
>Queue John Kuthe and his Greedy Capitalist Mammon Worship Cheap
>Chinese All Electric Cell Phone Rant. Is he in jail again? I
>didn't see 6 or 7 new threads form him today yet.
>
>-sw

I've been craving brisket. There really is no substitute.
Janet US

On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 22:35:53 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> I am not familiar with "shin beef" but it sounds like it's on the bone.
> Shin bone. Doesn't sound like it would have a lot of meat on it.

Depending on the animal and breed there can be quite a lot of meat
there. Think "osso buco".

It's also quite tasty if cooked knowingly. It's my favorite choice
when I make a ragu.

--
Bob
St Francis would have done better to preach to the cats

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 12:52:56 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> I used to be able to buy wings for 5 cents a pound. Adjusted for
> inflation, that would be 40 cents today. Not the 2.49 they get now.

A friend of mine said it was a real joy to watch my Chinese friend eat
chicken. When he was done, there would be a neat pile of bone on a dish.
It's clear to me that any people that can eat a chicken like that will one
day rule the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25SLTtOXGEU

===

LOL that guy's face!!! Well at least I shall know how to do it if I
ever confront a chicken wing )

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 21:50:07 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 19:49:09 -0600, graham wrote:
>
>> On 2019-08-03 7:42 p.m., Alex wrote:
>
>>> Yup. At least pork shoulders go on sale for a decent price fairly
>>> often.
>>
>> Especially since China is cutting pork imports as a retaliatory measure.
>
>African swine fever is still in full bloom there now and is
>reportedly worse than they'll admit.
>
>Note that "banning pork imports from the U.S" doesn't include us
>shipping pork to China for processing and have them ship it back to
>us (McRib patties, for example). I'm sure they're gonna be pinching
>some of that pork and stuffing it in their pockets, too :-)

I wouldn't like it if the cheap ass, shortcut loving, human manure
oriented, melamine leaking Chinese got their hands on my food before I
ate it.

===

That bad, huh?

On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 10:10:01 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message ...
>
>On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 21:50:07 -0500, Sqwertz >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 19:49:09 -0600, graham wrote:
>>
>>> On 2019-08-03 7:42 p.m., Alex wrote:
>>
>>>> Yup. At least pork shoulders go on sale for a decent price fairly
>>>> often.
>>>
>>> Especially since China is cutting pork imports as a retaliatory measure.
>>
>>African swine fever is still in full bloom there now and is
>>reportedly worse than they'll admit.
>>
>>Note that "banning pork imports from the U.S" doesn't include us
>>shipping pork to China for processing and have them ship it back to
>>us (McRib patties, for example). I'm sure they're gonna be pinching
>>some of that pork and stuffing it in their pockets, too :-)
>
>I wouldn't like it if the cheap ass, shortcut loving, human manure
>oriented, melamine leaking Chinese got their hands on my food before I
>ate it.
>
>===
>
> That bad, huh?

Lol, yes, I don't trust how they work. We don't buy Chinese frozen
fish, for instance. AU, NZ, EU, US, sure, but not Chinese, Vietnamese
etc.

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 10:10:01 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 21:50:07 -0500, Sqwertz >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 19:49:09 -0600, graham wrote:
>>
>>> On 2019-08-03 7:42 p.m., Alex wrote:
>>
>>>> Yup. At least pork shoulders go on sale for a decent price fairly
>>>> often.
>>>
>>> Especially since China is cutting pork imports as a retaliatory measure.
>>
>>African swine fever is still in full bloom there now and is
>>reportedly worse than they'll admit.
>>
>>Note that "banning pork imports from the U.S" doesn't include us
>>shipping pork to China for processing and have them ship it back to
>>us (McRib patties, for example). I'm sure they're gonna be pinching
>>some of that pork and stuffing it in their pockets, too :-)
>
>I wouldn't like it if the cheap ass, shortcut loving, human manure
>oriented, melamine leaking Chinese got their hands on my food before I
>ate it.
>
>===
>
> That bad, huh?

Lol, yes, I don't trust how they work. We don't buy Chinese frozen
fish, for instance. AU, NZ, EU, US, sure, but not Chinese, Vietnamese
etc.

=====

I don't think I've ever seen any from those countries. The only white
fish I buy is British cod or haddock Hmmm I don't know about shellfish, I
will need to look)

On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 10:26:37 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message ...
>
>On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 10:10:01 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>
>>"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 21:50:07 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 19:49:09 -0600, graham wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2019-08-03 7:42 p.m., Alex wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Yup. At least pork shoulders go on sale for a decent price fairly
>>>>> often.
>>>>
>>>> Especially since China is cutting pork imports as a retaliatory measure.
>>>
>>>African swine fever is still in full bloom there now and is
>>>reportedly worse than they'll admit.
>>>
>>>Note that "banning pork imports from the U.S" doesn't include us
>>>shipping pork to China for processing and have them ship it back to
>>>us (McRib patties, for example). I'm sure they're gonna be pinching
>>>some of that pork and stuffing it in their pockets, too :-)
>>
>>I wouldn't like it if the cheap ass, shortcut loving, human manure
>>oriented, melamine leaking Chinese got their hands on my food before I
>>ate it.
>>
>>===
>>
>> That bad, huh?
>
>Lol, yes, I don't trust how they work. We don't buy Chinese frozen
>fish, for instance. AU, NZ, EU, US, sure, but not Chinese, Vietnamese
>etc.
>
>=====
>
> I don't think I've ever seen any from those countries. The only white
>fish I buy is British cod or haddock Hmmm I don't know about shellfish, I
>will need to look)

Prawns and squid are worth checking, for instance.

Hank Rogers wrote:
>
> Seems like butchers just chop the wings off and throw the rest of
> the bird out the window.

I know someone here that does that.

On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 9:46:56 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
> On 2019-08-03 7:11 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > On 8/3/2019 8:49 PM, graham wrote:
> >> On 2019-08-03 6:09 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> >>> On 8/3/2019 6:52 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>> On 8/3/2019 4:09 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >>>>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 8:39:14 AM UTC-10,
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:18:23 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Like chicken wings, popularity has jacked the price in recent
> >>>>>>> years.Â* I
> >>>>>>> used to buy brisket for $1.39, now it is $3.99 for a packer cut.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/yxe3os2z
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Well, it didn't upset me as I've never seen it below $3.99 per
> >>>>>> pound here.
> >>>>>> Ever.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Chicken wing must have been cheap back in the old days. We used to
> >>>>> grill teriyaki wings and back then, people mostly stuck with cheap
> >>>>> meat since we were poor folk. They were Frenched wings and they
> >>>>> were quite tasty.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/aCUi7UaQT3C122ENA
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I used to be able to buy wings for 5 cents a pound.Â* Adjusted for
> >>>> inflation, that would be 40 cents today.Â* Not the 2.49 they get now.
> >>>
> >>> I never really understood the fascination with chicken wings.Â* Yeah,
> >>> yeah, Buffalo and a bar and some hot sauce.Â* Oh, and some bleu cheese
> >>> dip and celery.Â* There's not much meat on chicken wings.Â* But hey, as
> >>> bar food it worked.Â* And caught on.
> >>>
> >>> Same thing with flank steak.Â* Suddenly needed for things like fajitas
> >>> or Chinese beef & broccoli so the price skyrocketed.Â* Mom used to buy
> >>> it for 39 cents/lb.Â* Last time I checked it was $14/lb.Â* A very tough
> >>> cut of meat that has to be marinated (or, I supposed these days soux
> >>> vide) and very thinly sliced when served.Â* Otherwise it's expensive
> >>> shoe leather.
> >>>
> >>> Jill
> >> I have never understood the high price for "stewing beef", which is
> >> mostly shin, and what should be the cheapest cut.
> >
> > Well, I've never seen what you call shin beef.Â* Anything labelled "stew
> > beef", however, I know will be very tough and I've no idea why it costs
> > so much.Â* I don't purchase it.
> >
> > Jill
> It's obvious where it originates on the animal. In the UK it's called
> "shin" and in Australia I saw it called "gravy beef". It is extremely
> tough and needs long cooking. My mother used it for stews that often
> simmered all day.

Everywhere I've seen something labeled "stew meat", it has been random
chunks scrapped out from various primals. Not a whole piece of meat by
any means.

Cindy Hamilton

On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:08:00 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> LOL that guy's face!!! Well at least I shall know how to do it if I
> ever confront a chicken wing )

I can't say if eating a chicken wing like that would work for a Westerner. Those Chinese guys like to eat the cartilage and all those stringy parts i.e., they can pick those bones clean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyJavZpFzCo

On 8/3/2019 9:35 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/3/2019 9:46 PM, graham wrote:
>> On 2019-08-03 7:11 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 8/3/2019 8:49 PM, graham wrote:
>>>> On 2019-08-03 6:09 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 8/3/2019 6:52 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/3/2019 4:09 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 8:39:14 AM UTC-10,
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 11:18:23 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Like chicken wings, popularity has jacked the price in recent
>>>>>>>>> years.Â* I
>>>>>>>>> used to buy brisket for $1.39, now it is $3.99 for a packer cut.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/yxe3os2z
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, it didn't upset me as I've never seen it below $3.99 per
>>>>>>>> pound here.
>>>>>>>> Ever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chicken wing must have been cheap back in the old days. We used
>>>>>>> to grill teriyaki wings and back then, people mostly stuck with
>>>>>>> cheap meat since we were poor folk. They were Frenched wings and
>>>>>>> they were quite tasty.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/aCUi7UaQT3C122ENA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I used to be able to buy wings for 5 cents a pound. Adjusted for
>>>>>> inflation, that would be 40 cents today. Not the 2.49 they get now.
>>>>>
>>>>> I never really understood the fascination with chicken wings.Â*
>>>>> Yeah, yeah, Buffalo and a bar and some hot sauce. Oh, and some
>>>>> bleu cheese dip and celery.Â* There's not much meat on chicken
>>>>> wings.Â* But hey, as bar food it worked. And caught on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Same thing with flank steak.Â* Suddenly needed for things like
>>>>> fajitas or Chinese beef & broccoli so the price skyrocketed.Â* Mom
>>>>> used to buy it for 39 cents/lb.Â* Last time I checked it was
>>>>> $14/lb.Â* A very tough cut of meat that has to be marinated (or, I
>>>>> supposed these days soux vide) and very thinly sliced when
>>>>> served.Â* Otherwise it's expensive shoe leather.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>> I have never understood the high price for "stewing beef", which is
>>>> mostly shin, and what should be the cheapest cut.
>>>
>>> Well, I've never seen what you call shin beef.Â* Anything labelled
>>> "stew beef", however, I know will be very tough and I've no idea why
>>> it costs so much.Â* I don't purchase it.
>>>
>>> Jill
>> It's obvious where it originates on the animal. In the UK it's called
>> "shin" and in Australia I saw it called "gravy beef". It is extremely
>> tough and needs long cooking. My mother used it for stews that often
>> simmered all day.
>
> I hear you, but I don't find cuts labelled that way in any of the
> states I've lived in.Â* Nothing called "shin" or "gravy beef". Stew
> beef, yes. I don't buy stew beef because I'm not willing to pay more
> for someone to cut an extra tough cut of beef into chunks for me.Â* I
> buy a nice roast and cut it into pieces myself.Â* I know the cut
> because I selected it.Â* I am not familiar with "shin beef" but it
> sounds like it's on the bone. Shin bone.Â* Doesn't sound like it would
> have a lot of meat on it.Â* Not familiar, sorry.
>
> Jill

Â* I do the same as you . When we get a good sale on meat I buy the big
cuts and cut them up them into the sizes we like , and always make some
into chunks that can be used for stews/fajitas/stir fry . Unfortunately
they don't usually have the best sales during tourist season . Tourists
ain't interested in 15 pound eye of rounds , they're after ribs , steaks
, and poke chops .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> I don't like Buffalo wings and I'm POd at the guy that invented them and
> drove the price up.

Try Buffalo thighs or even Buffalo whole chicken. Same exact
recipe, the price is right and a very tasty meal.

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 10:26:37 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 10:10:01 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>
>>"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 21:50:07 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 19:49:09 -0600, graham wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2019-08-03 7:42 p.m., Alex wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Yup. At least pork shoulders go on sale for a decent price fairly
>>>>> often.
>>>>
>>>> Especially since China is cutting pork imports as a retaliatory
>>>> measure.
>>>
>>>African swine fever is still in full bloom there now and is
>>>reportedly worse than they'll admit.
>>>
>>>Note that "banning pork imports from the U.S" doesn't include us
>>>shipping pork to China for processing and have them ship it back to
>>>us (McRib patties, for example). I'm sure they're gonna be pinching
>>>some of that pork and stuffing it in their pockets, too :-)
>>
>>I wouldn't like it if the cheap ass, shortcut loving, human manure
>>oriented, melamine leaking Chinese got their hands on my food before I
>>ate it.
>>
>>===
>>
>> That bad, huh?
>
>Lol, yes, I don't trust how they work. We don't buy Chinese frozen
>fish, for instance. AU, NZ, EU, US, sure, but not Chinese, Vietnamese
>etc.
>
>=====
>
> I don't think I've ever seen any from those countries. The only white
>fish I buy is British cod or haddock Hmmm I don't know about shellfish, I
>will need to look)

Prawns and squid are worth checking, for instance.

===

Ok mine says, Raw and Peeled King Prawns 'Farmed in Vietnam/and or
Indonesia/ and or India and packed in UK!

I have to say though they are very good! What do you think might be wrong
with them?