https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-a...al_taboolafeed

On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 8:47:39 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-a...al_taboolafeed

That's very bad news. Just awful, bad, news. David Tran should be given a medal for enriching the lives of millions of Americans and Hawaiians.

dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 8:47:39 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-a...al_taboolafeed
>
> That's very bad news. Just awful, bad, news. David Tran should be given a medal for enriching the lives of millions of Americans and Hawaiians.
>

See, thats what happens when you come to the mainland.

ROCK GOOD

MAINLAND BAD

ASIANS GOOD

HONKEYS BAD

On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 10:56:19 AM UTC-10, Hank Rogers wrote:.
>
> HONKEYS BAD

Sriracha is the main ingredient in Hawaii's most favorite dish: spicy ahi poke. Where would we be without Sriracha? We'd be in a place without hope.

http://tworedbowls.com/2013/06/17/spicy-ahi-poke/

dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 8:47:39 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-a...al_taboolafeed
>
> That's very bad news. Just awful, bad, news. David Tran should be given a medal for enriching the lives of millions of Americans and Hawaiians.

the lack of much meaningful information in that
article makes me feel rather embarrassed for the
paper and author.


songbird

On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 1:49:20 PM UTC-10, songbird wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 8:47:39 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-a...al_taboolafeed
> >
> > That's very bad news. Just awful, bad, news. David Tran should be given a medal for enriching the lives of millions of Americans and Hawaiians.
>
> the lack of much meaningful information in that
> article makes me feel rather embarrassed for the
> paper and author.
>
>
> songbird

I'm not embarrassed. We're used to that kind of reporting. All you old farts that took journalism back in college can just throw everything you ever learned out the window. This is the new journalism. In the end, you end up with more questions than when you started.

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 19:37:33 -0400, songbird >
wrote:

>dsi1 wrote:
>> On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 8:47:39 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-a...al_taboolafeed
>>
>> That's very bad news. Just awful, bad, news. David Tran should be given a medal for enriching the lives of millions of Americans and Hawaiians.
>
> the lack of much meaningful information in that
>article makes me feel rather embarrassed for the
>paper and author.
>
>
> songbird

It really isn't much clearer in the many articles out there.
Perhaps this:
https://www.vcstar.com/story/news/lo...on/1596810001/

On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 4:45:15 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 19:37:33 -0400, songbird >
> wrote:
>
> >dsi1 wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 8:47:39 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-a...al_taboolafeed
> >>
> >> That's very bad news. Just awful, bad, news. David Tran should be given a medal for enriching the lives of millions of Americans and Hawaiians.
> >
> > the lack of much meaningful information in that
> >article makes me feel rather embarrassed for the
> >paper and author.
> >
> >
> > songbird
>
> It really isn't much clearer in the many articles out there.
> Perhaps this:
> https://www.vcstar.com/story/news/lo...on/1596810001/

Sriracha is made from jalapenos? Holy mackerel! This is what happens when people get greedy. They each shot themselves in the foot then they shot each other in the head. It's a big bloody shame!

dsi1 wrote:
....
> Sriracha is made from jalapenos? Holy mackerel! This is what happens when people get greedy. They each shot themselves in the foot then they shot each other in the head. It's a big bloody shame!

yes, but notice the point in contention was the
worry about losing the contract to Wally's World
if the cost increase was too high.

the price is very low IMO, which is good for
everyone who buys it, but it does put pressure on
the grower and producer to keep those costs in
line.

a large bottle of it costs about $4 which is
pretty cheap - i buy it at a little asian food
store because i like to give them the business
instead.


songbird

U.S Janet B wrote:
....
> It really isn't much clearer in the many articles out there.
> Perhaps this:
> https://www.vcstar.com/story/news/lo...on/1596810001/

better at least. thanks.

unfortunately this just goes to show that you
really do want things spelled out in writing when
it comes down to business arrangements...


songbird

On Thursday, July 11, 2019 at 3:58:12 AM UTC-10, songbird wrote:
> U.S Janet B wrote:
> ...
> > It really isn't much clearer in the many articles out there.
> > Perhaps this:
> > https://www.vcstar.com/story/news/lo...on/1596810001/
>
> better at least. thanks.
>
> unfortunately this just goes to show that you
> really do want things spelled out in writing when
> it comes down to business arrangements...
>
>
> songbird

It's a cultural difference. Asians will spend a lot of time fostering relationships between business partners. Trust plays an important role in the Asian way of doing business. The concept of "face" is also important i.e., not making the people you deal with and yourself look bad. Doing business on a handshake requires a lot of trust on both sides. Mostly, Western businessmen do not trust each other.

https://multilingual.com/building-pr...ionships-asia/

lid writes:
>On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 19:37:33 -0400, songbird wrote:
>
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 8:47:39 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>
>https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-a...al_taboolafeed
>>>
>>> That's very bad news. Just awful, bad, news. David Tran should be
>given a medal for enriching the lives of millions of Americans and
>Hawaiians.
>>
>> the lack of much meaningful information in that
>> article makes me feel rather embarrassed for the
>> paper and author.
>
>Quality reporting has gone to shit in the last few years. Click
>bait is much more profitable and easier to pump out with less
>liability. Journalism is dead.
>
>-sw

it took me literally less than 10 seconds to open Google news, type
"sriracha contract," and find this as the second search result:

<https://www.sgvtribune.com/2019/07/09/jury-says-sriracha-manufacturer-owes-former-pepper-farmer-millions/>

lid writes:
>On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 17:33:28 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>
>> lid writes:
>>>On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 19:37:33 -0400, songbird wrote:
>>>
>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 8:47:39 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-a...al_taboolafeed
>>>>>
>>>>> That's very bad news. Just awful, bad, news. David Tran should be
>>>given a medal for enriching the lives of millions of Americans and
>>>Hawaiians.
>>>>
>>>> the lack of much meaningful information in that
>>>> article makes me feel rather embarrassed for the
>>>> paper and author.
>>>
>>>Quality reporting has gone to shit in the last few years. Click
>>>bait is much more profitable and easier to pump out with less
>>>liability. Journalism is dead.
>>
>> it took me literally less than 10 seconds to open Google news, type
>> "sriracha contract," and find this as the second search result:
>>
>>
><https://www.sgvtribune.com/2019/07/09/jury-says-sriracha-manufacturer-owes-former-pepper-farmer-millions/>
>
>And the other articles from other mainline news sites? That's what
>we were complaining about.
>
>Get with it, terd.
>
>-sw


"Journalism is dead." --Steve Wertz

nothing anything about mainline news sites in that incorrect, broad
statement

lid writes:
>On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 18:07:03 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>
>> lid writes:
>>>On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 17:33:28 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>>>
>>>> lid writes:
>>>>>On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 19:37:33 -0400, songbird wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 8:47:39 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-a...al_taboolafeed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's very bad news. Just awful, bad, news. David Tran should be
>>>>>given a medal for enriching the lives of millions of Americans and
>>>>>Hawaiians.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the lack of much meaningful information in that
>>>>>> article makes me feel rather embarrassed for the
>>>>>> paper and author.
>>>>>
>>>>>Quality reporting has gone to shit in the last few years. Click
>>>>>bait is much more profitable and easier to pump out with less
>>>>>liability. Journalism is dead.
>>>>
>>>> it took me literally less than 10 seconds to open Google news, type
>>>> "sriracha contract," and find this as the second search result:
>>>>
>>>>
>>><https://www.sgvtribune.com/2019/07/09/jury-says-sriracha-manufacturer-owes-former-pepper-farmer-millions/>
>>>
>>>And the other articles from other mainline news sites? That's what
>>>we were complaining about.
>>>
>>>Get with it, terd.
>>>
>>>-sw
>>
>> "Journalism is dead." --Steve Wertz
>>
>> nothing anything about mainline news sites in that incorrect, broad
>> statement
>
>Of course, everybody reads the San Gabriel Valley Tribune daily.
>
>Whenever anybody says something on the Internet, some anal asshole
>will find an exception to "prove you wrong" regardless of any
>literary licenses you've used.
>
>****ing terd, nailing it as usual!!! <high five>
>
>-sw

oh the irony

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 18:37:28 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 12:47:32 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-a...al_taboolafeed
>
>That's interesting but the article didn't really say shit (not your
>fault, just dead-ended reporting like so much of it these days).
>
>From what I know of Huy Fong they have never raised their prices
>since Day 1 of incorporation. While Framers get paid less and less
>per the actual cost of goods and living. So I assume Huy Fong paid
>tried to pay the same, but the farmers didn't go for it.
>
>This is why you never source all your raw goods from the same
>basket. Melindas/Marie Sharp (also hot sauces) got into the same
>shitfest over peppers (Marie Sharp lost, but she was a mooching ****
>anyway).
>
>-sw

as I recall from reading about it several months ago, you are correct.
The issue is as you speculated. Huy Fong did want to continue the
same deal.
Apparently the peppers provide the taste we are accustomed to and
another pepper is expected to change the flavor. So everybody got
their knickers in a twist and that resolved to the damages payment.
You'll have to let us know, Steve, if the flavor changes.
Janet US

U.S Janet B wrote:
....
> Apparently the peppers provide the taste we are accustomed to and
> another pepper is expected to change the flavor. So everybody got
> their knickers in a twist and that resolved to the damages payment.
> You'll have to let us know, Steve, if the flavor changes.

California Jalapeno, not going to be that unique IMO. since
there is no sign of Huy Fong running out of sauce over the past
few years i think he's already got other suppliers.

p.s. there's a vid of them making the sauce, it's rather
impressive how big that warehouse stacked full of barrels of
peppers is...

i had to check it out because sriracha sauce is my ketchup.


songbird