I got an email this morning from GE. You guys are living in the past.

In the past, people used their phones to control their ovens. I mean,
how old fashioned is that, taking out your phone and opening an app.
All you need to cook a gourmet meal is a microwave and Google Assistant.
This is cooking at its best.

https://www.geoutletstore.com/GEStor..._JES109 7SMSS

With the Google Assistant, you can control your connected microwave with
commands like:


"Hey Google, run the microwave for 60 seconds."

"Hey Google, pause the microwave."

"Hey Google, add one minute to the microwave."

"Hey Google, how much time is remaining on the microwave?"

And more, with just your voice!

Once you have your connected microwave and Google Home Mini, getting
started is simple. Download the Google Assistant or Google Home app,
click "Add device" and search for "U+ Connect."

On Thu, 30 May 2019 14:29:09 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>I got an email this morning from GE. You guys are living in the past.
>
>In the past, people used their phones to control their ovens. I mean,
>how old fashioned is that, taking out your phone and opening an app.
>All you need to cook a gourmet meal is a microwave and Google Assistant.
> This is cooking at its best.
>
>https://www.geoutletstore.com/GEStor..._JES109 7SMSS
>
>With the Google Assistant, you can control your connected microwave with
>commands like:
>
>
>"Hey Google, run the microwave for 60 seconds."
>
>"Hey Google, pause the microwave."
>
>"Hey Google, add one minute to the microwave."
>
>"Hey Google, how much time is remaining on the microwave?"
>
>And more, with just your voice!
>
>Once you have your connected microwave and Google Home Mini, getting
>started is simple. Download the Google Assistant or Google Home app,
>click "Add device" and search for "U+ Connect."


That's kind of funny, because unless your microwave can check the food
for doneness or for proper heat then you will need to be at the
microwave anyway... and I can press one button to add a minute or so

--

____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

I got an email this morning from GE. You guys are living in the past.

In the past, people used their phones to control their ovens. I mean,
how old fashioned is that, taking out your phone and opening an app.
All you need to cook a gourmet meal is a microwave and Google Assistant.
This is cooking at its best.

https://www.geoutletstore.com/GEStor..._JES109 7SMSS

With the Google Assistant, you can control your connected microwave with
commands like:


"Hey Google, run the microwave for 60 seconds."

"Hey Google, pause the microwave."

"Hey Google, add one minute to the microwave."

"Hey Google, how much time is remaining on the microwave?"

And more, with just your voice!

Once you have your connected microwave and Google Home Mini, getting
started is simple. Download the Google Assistant or Google Home app,
click "Add device" and search for "U+ Connect."

===

LOL enjoy!!!

On 5/30/2019 3:43 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Ed Pawlowski"Â* wrote in message ...
>
> I got an email this morning from GE.Â* You guys are living in the past.
>
> In the past, people used their phones to control their ovens.Â* I mean,
> how old fashioned is that, taking out your phone and opening an app.
> All you need to cook a gourmet meal is a microwave and Google Assistant.
> Â*This is cooking at its best.
>
> https://www.geoutletstore.com/GEStor..._JES109 7SMSS
>
>
> With the Google Assistant, you can control your connected microwave with
> commands like:
>
>
> "Hey Google, run the microwave for 60 seconds."
>
> "Hey Google, pause the microwave."
>
> "Hey Google, add one minute to the microwave."
>
> "Hey Google, how much time is remaining on the microwave?"
>
> And more, with just your voice!
>
> Once you have your connected microwave and Google Home Mini, getting
> started is simple. Download the Google Assistant or Google Home app,
> click "Add device" and search for "U+ Connect."
>
> ===
>
> Â* LOL enjoy!!!

Â* You see how bad it's gotten ?Â* Can't even nuke an egg without an app
! I forgot when I said in another thread that I was going to make bread
yesterday ... that the oven was out of service . The control board died
, new one arrived yesterday about noon . So this morning I made 3
batches of dough . 2 loaves , 15 hot dog buns , 12 burger buns . Then
discovered I still had a loaf out in the big freezer . And NOT ONCE did
I use a cell phone , a computer , or an app . The nearest I came was the
mechanical timers I use to time rise and bake cycles . Well , and the
electronic control on the oven . I'd have analog if it was still
available ...

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

On 5/30/2019 2:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> I got an email this morning from GE.Â* You guys are living in the past.
>
> In the past, people used their phones to control their ovens.Â* I mean,
> how old fashioned is that, taking out your phone and opening an app. All
> you need to cook a gourmet meal is a microwave and Google Assistant.
> Â*This is cooking at its best.
>
> https://www.geoutletstore.com/GEStor..._JES109 7SMSS
>
>
> With the Google Assistant, you can control your connected microwave with
> commands like:
>
>
> "Hey Google, run the microwave for 60 seconds."
>
> "Hey Google, pause the microwave."
>
> "Hey Google, add one minute to the microwave."
>
> "Hey Google, how much time is remaining on the microwave?"
>
> And more, with just your voice!
>
> Once you have your connected microwave and Google Home Mini, getting
> started is simple. Download the Google Assistant or Google Home app,
> click "Add device" and search for "U+ Connect."
>
LOL I have to say if you talk to yourself out loud and have all these
voice activated devices in your home, there's no telling what might happen.

Jill

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>I got an email this morning from GE. You guys are living in the past.
>
> In the past, people used their phones to control their ovens. I mean, how
> old fashioned is that, taking out your phone and opening an app. All you
> need to cook a gourmet meal is a microwave and Google Assistant. This is
> cooking at its best.
>
> https://www.geoutletstore.com/GEStor..._JES109 7SMSS
>
> With the Google Assistant, you can control your connected microwave with
> commands like:
>
>
> "Hey Google, run the microwave for 60 seconds."
>
> "Hey Google, pause the microwave."
>
> "Hey Google, add one minute to the microwave."
>
> "Hey Google, how much time is remaining on the microwave?"
>
> And more, with just your voice!
>
> Once you have your connected microwave and Google Home Mini, getting
> started is simple. Download the Google Assistant or Google Home app, click
> "Add device" and search for "U+ Connect."

People sure are getting lazy!

On 5/30/2019 7:22 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I got an email this morning from GE.Â* You guys are living in the past.
>>
>> In the past, people used their phones to control their ovens.Â* I mean,
>> how old fashioned is that, taking out your phone and opening an app.
>> All you need to cook a gourmet meal is a microwave and Google
>> Assistant. This is cooking at its best.
>>
>> https://www.geoutletstore.com/GEStor..._JES109 7SMSS
>>
>>
>> With the Google Assistant, you can control your connected microwave
>> with commands like:
>>
>>
>> "Hey Google, run the microwave for 60 seconds."
>>
>> "Hey Google, pause the microwave."
>>
>> "Hey Google, add one minute to the microwave."
>>
>> "Hey Google, how much time is remaining on the microwave?"
>>
>> And more, with just your voice!
>>
>> Once you have your connected microwave and Google Home Mini, getting
>> started is simple. Download the Google Assistant or Google Home app,
>> click "Add device" and search for "U+ Connect."
>
> People sure are getting lazy!

Getting? About two minutes and forty six or so seconds into this video,
Jay Leno made fun of voice activated TV remotes. This was in 2006:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw4U54WNrs0

Sounded stupid then, still sounds stupid to me. How lazy are people
that they can't push a button?

A revolutionary reversal would be to make people get up off the couch
and walk across the room to change the channel on the TV.

Jill

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message ...

On 5/30/2019 3:43 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>
> I got an email this morning from GE. You guys are living in the past.
>
> In the past, people used their phones to control their ovens. I mean,
> how old fashioned is that, taking out your phone and opening an app.
> All you need to cook a gourmet meal is a microwave and Google Assistant.
> This is cooking at its best.
>
> https://www.geoutletstore.com/GEStor..._JES109 7SMSS
>
> With the Google Assistant, you can control your connected microwave with
> commands like:
>
>
> "Hey Google, run the microwave for 60 seconds."
>
> "Hey Google, pause the microwave."
>
> "Hey Google, add one minute to the microwave."
>
> "Hey Google, how much time is remaining on the microwave?"
>
> And more, with just your voice!
>
> Once you have your connected microwave and Google Home Mini, getting
> started is simple. Download the Google Assistant or Google Home app,
> click "Add device" and search for "U+ Connect."
>
> ===
>
> LOL enjoy!!!

You see how bad it's gotten ? Can't even nuke an egg without an app
! I forgot when I said in another thread that I was going to make bread
yesterday ... that the oven was out of service . The control board died
, new one arrived yesterday about noon . So this morning I made 3
batches of dough . 2 loaves , 15 hot dog buns , 12 burger buns . Then
discovered I still had a loaf out in the big freezer . And NOT ONCE did
I use a cell phone , a computer , or an app . The nearest I came was the
mechanical timers I use to time rise and bake cycles . Well , and the
electronic control on the oven . I'd have analog if it was still
available ...

Snag

====

*Applause* ) Bummer about the oven but ... You sure make a lot all
at once)

I'm afraid I have to rely on my bread maker (unless I make a no-knead
bread) The old 'arfur' took over my hands ages ago.

jmcquown wrote:
>
> A revolutionary reversal would be to make people get up off the couch
> and walk across the room to change the channel on the TV.

In the early 60's, *I* was the tv remote control for my Dad.
"Gary, put it on channel 5 please."

jmcquown wrote:
>
> LOL I have to say if you talk to yourself out loud and have all these
> voice activated devices in your home, there's no telling what might happen.

LOL. That's a funny thought. Also just talking to a pet. No
telling how the electronics listening might interpret it.

"Hey Mia, are you hungry? Need some warm gravy meal?"

Two days later you get an Amazon delivery of case of ferret food
and a case of gravy mix packets for humans.

On 5/31/2019 9:00 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> LOL I have to say if you talk to yourself out loud and have all these
>> voice activated devices in your home, there's no telling what might happen.
>
> LOL. That's a funny thought. Also just talking to a pet. No
> telling how the electronics listening might interpret it.
>
> "Hey Mia, are you hungry? Need some warm gravy meal?"
>
> Two days later you get an Amazon delivery of case of ferret food
> and a case of gravy mix packets for humans.
>
Exactly! The HVAC tech who did some routine maintenance last year
told me some of the employees are testing thermostats with a voice
command feature. He said one guy had to disable it because his very
young kids were were using the thermostat to order things from Amazon.

Jill

"Gary" wrote in message ...

jmcquown wrote:
>
> LOL I have to say if you talk to yourself out loud and have all these
> voice activated devices in your home, there's no telling what might
> happen.

LOL. That's a funny thought. Also just talking to a pet. No
telling how the electronics listening might interpret it.

"Hey Mia, are you hungry? Need some warm gravy meal?"

Two days later you get an Amazon delivery of case of ferret food
and a case of gravy mix packets for humans.


===

LOL

On 5/31/2019 9:00 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> A revolutionary reversal would be to make people get up off the couch
>> and walk across the room to change the channel on the TV.
>
> In the early 60's, *I* was the tv remote control for my Dad.
> "Gary, put it on channel 5 please."
>
That's what kids are for. That, and mowing the lawn. LOL

Jill

On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 11:17:12 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/31/2019 9:00 AM, Gary wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >>
> >> A revolutionary reversal would be to make people get up off the couch
> >> and walk across the room to change the channel on the TV.
> >
> > In the early 60's, *I* was the tv remote control for my Dad.
> > "Gary, put it on channel 5 please."
> >
> That's what kids are for. That, and mowing the lawn. LOL
>
> Jill

A lawn service is cheaper.

Cindy Hamilton

On 5/31/2019 12:44 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 11:17:12 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/31/2019 9:00 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A revolutionary reversal would be to make people get up off the couch
>>>> and walk across the room to change the channel on the TV.
>>>
>>> In the early 60's, *I* was the tv remote control for my Dad.
>>> "Gary, put it on channel 5 please."
>>>
>> That's what kids are for. That, and mowing the lawn. LOL
>>
>> Jill
>
> A lawn service is cheaper.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
My parents didn't pay me or my brothers to mow the lawn or do chores
when we were kids.

Jill

On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 1:09:28 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/31/2019 12:44 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 11:17:12 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> >> On 5/31/2019 9:00 AM, Gary wrote:
> >>> jmcquown wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> A revolutionary reversal would be to make people get up off the couch
> >>>> and walk across the room to change the channel on the TV.
> >>>
> >>> In the early 60's, *I* was the tv remote control for my Dad.
> >>> "Gary, put it on channel 5 please."
> >>>
> >> That's what kids are for. That, and mowing the lawn. LOL
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > A lawn service is cheaper.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> My parents didn't pay me or my brothers to mow the lawn or do chores
> when we were kids.
>
> Jill

It costs a ton of money to raise kids (more than $200,000). It's cheaper to hire a lawn service.

<http://money.com/money/4629700/child-raising-cost-department-of-agriculture-report/>

Cindy Hamilton

On 5/31/2019 1:34 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 1:09:28 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/31/2019 12:44 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 11:17:12 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 5/31/2019 9:00 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A revolutionary reversal would be to make people get up off the couch
>>>>>> and walk across the room to change the channel on the TV.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the early 60's, *I* was the tv remote control for my Dad.
>>>>> "Gary, put it on channel 5 please."
>>>>>
>>>> That's what kids are for. That, and mowing the lawn. LOL
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> A lawn service is cheaper.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> My parents didn't pay me or my brothers to mow the lawn or do chores
>> when we were kids.
>>
>> Jill
>
> It costs a ton of money to raise kids (more than $200,000). It's cheaper to hire a lawn service.
>
> <http://money.com/money/4629700/child-raising-cost-department-of-agriculture-report/>
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
I have no doubt raising children is expensive. I was simply joking with
Gary about his father having him change the TV channel.

Jill

On Fri, 31 May 2019 13:09:21 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 5/31/2019 12:44 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 11:17:12 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 5/31/2019 9:00 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A revolutionary reversal would be to make people get up off the couch
>>>>> and walk across the room to change the channel on the TV.
>>>>
>>>> In the early 60's, *I* was the tv remote control for my Dad.
>>>> "Gary, put it on channel 5 please."
>>>>
>>> That's what kids are for. That, and mowing the lawn. LOL
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> A lawn service is cheaper.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>My parents didn't pay me or my brothers to mow the lawn or do chores
>when we were kids.
>
>Jill

Parents paid you with room and board. lol

On Fri, 31 May 2019 10:34:43 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 1:09:28 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/31/2019 12:44 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 11:17:12 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>> >> On 5/31/2019 9:00 AM, Gary wrote:
>> >>> jmcquown wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> A revolutionary reversal would be to make people get up off the couch
>> >>>> and walk across the room to change the channel on the TV.
>> >>>
>> >>> In the early 60's, *I* was the tv remote control for my Dad.
>> >>> "Gary, put it on channel 5 please."
>> >>>
>> >> That's what kids are for. That, and mowing the lawn. LOL
>> >>
>> >> Jill
>> >
>> > A lawn service is cheaper.
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>> >
>> My parents didn't pay me or my brothers to mow the lawn or do chores
>> when we were kids.
>>
>> Jill
>
>It costs a ton of money to raise kids (more than $200,000). It's cheaper to hire a lawn service.
>
><http://money.com/money/4629700/child-raising-cost-department-of-agriculture-report/>
>
>Cindy Hamilton

That would depend on the lawn... it takes both of us two days every
week to mow and we know all the topography of where we can mow
according to weather conditions and where every rock is. .. and that's
considering ideal weather. It would cost a fortune to have a lawn
service here, and unless they lived here they couldn't do a good job.
We would have to have a couple three kids to keep up the lawn and we
are well past that age. We do maintenence ourselves and hire people
for big jobs like felling large dead trees and stump grinding. With
all the rain this spring I don't know when we will catch up... hoping
to get the vegetable garden in next weekend, too wet for tilling and
much too wet for a 4 yard truck load of top soil to get in. We take
it one day at at a time. there's no way to guess the weather.

On 5/31/2019 3:28 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Terry Coombs"Â* wrote in message ...
>
> On 5/30/2019 3:43 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Ed Pawlowski"Â* wrote in message ...
>>
>> I got an email this morning from GE.Â* You guys are living in the past.
>>
>> In the past, people used their phones to control their ovens.Â* I mean,
>> how old fashioned is that, taking out your phone and opening an app.
>> All you need to cook a gourmet meal is a microwave and Google Assistant.
>> Â*This is cooking at its best.
>>
>> https://www.geoutletstore.com/GEStor..._JES109 7SMSS
>>
>>
>> With the Google Assistant, you can control your connected microwave with
>> commands like:
>>
>>
>> "Hey Google, run the microwave for 60 seconds."
>>
>> "Hey Google, pause the microwave."
>>
>> "Hey Google, add one minute to the microwave."
>>
>> "Hey Google, how much time is remaining on the microwave?"
>>
>> And more, with just your voice!
>>
>> Once you have your connected microwave and Google Home Mini, getting
>> started is simple. Download the Google Assistant or Google Home app,
>> click "Add device" and search for "U+ Connect."
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Â* LOL enjoy!!!
>
> Â* You see how bad it's gotten ?Â* Can't even nuke an egg without an app
> ! I forgot when I said in another thread that I was going to make bread
> yesterday ... that the oven was out of service . The control board died
> , new one arrived yesterday about noon . So this morning I made 3
> batches of dough . 2 loaves , 15 hot dog buns , 12 burger buns . Then
> discovered I still had a loaf out in the big freezer . And NOT ONCE did
> I use a cell phone , a computer , or an app . The nearest I came was the
> mechanical timers I use to time rise and bake cycles . Well , and the
> electronic control on the oven . I'd have analog if it was still
> available ...
>
> Â*Snag
>
> ====
>
> Â*Â*Â* *Applause* )Â* Bummer about the oven but ...Â* You sure make a lot
> all at once)
>
> Â*Â*Â* I'm afraid I have to rely on my bread maker (unless I make a
> no-knead bread)Â* The old 'arfur' took over my hands ages ago.
>
>
>
Â* I freeze most of it as soon as it's completely cooled off . It takes
just a few minutes to thaw anything but a loaf , I use the toaster oven
set on about 175°F . The stove is like most new appliances , controlled
by a circuit board and solid state electronics .Â* This is the second
time I've replaced it ...

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 3:59:12 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> On Fri, 31 May 2019 10:34:43 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 1:09:28 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> >> On 5/31/2019 12:44 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> > On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 11:17:12 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> >> >> On 5/31/2019 9:00 AM, Gary wrote:
> >> >>> jmcquown wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> A revolutionary reversal would be to make people get up off the couch
> >> >>>> and walk across the room to change the channel on the TV.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> In the early 60's, *I* was the tv remote control for my Dad.
> >> >>> "Gary, put it on channel 5 please."
> >> >>>
> >> >> That's what kids are for. That, and mowing the lawn. LOL
> >> >>
> >> >> Jill
> >> >
> >> > A lawn service is cheaper.
> >> >
> >> > Cindy Hamilton
> >> >
> >> My parents didn't pay me or my brothers to mow the lawn or do chores
> >> when we were kids.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> >It costs a ton of money to raise kids (more than $200,000). It's cheaper to hire a lawn service.
> >
> ><http://money.com/money/4629700/child-raising-cost-department-of-agriculture-report/>
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> That would depend on the lawn... it takes both of us two days every
> week to mow and we know all the topography of where we can mow
> according to weather conditions and where every rock is. .. and that's
> considering ideal weather. It would cost a fortune to have a lawn
> service here, and unless they lived here they couldn't do a good job.
> We would have to have a couple three kids to keep up the lawn and we
> are well past that age. We do maintenence ourselves and hire people
> for big jobs like felling large dead trees and stump grinding. With
> all the rain this spring I don't know when we will catch up... hoping
> to get the vegetable garden in next weekend, too wet for tilling and
> much too wet for a 4 yard truck load of top soil to get in. We take
> it one day at at a time. there's no way to guess the weather.

If you had a kid, she might be good for 5 years of lawn mowing
before she moved out. If it costs $200,000 to raise a kid, that
would be $40,000 per year for useful years of lawn mowing.

Obviously, if you could raise a kid for less or get more years
of mowing out of her, the cost would be less.

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 31 May 2019 13:11:32 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 3:59:12 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:

>> That would depend on the lawn... it takes both of us two days every
>> week to mow and we know all the topography of where we can mow
>> according to weather conditions and where every rock is. .. and that's
>> considering ideal weather. It would cost a fortune to have a lawn
>> service here, and unless they lived here they couldn't do a good job.
>> We would have to have a couple three kids to keep up the lawn and we
>> are well past that age. We do maintenence ourselves and hire people
>> for big jobs like felling large dead trees and stump grinding. With
>> all the rain this spring I don't know when we will catch up... hoping
>> to get the vegetable garden in next weekend, too wet for tilling and
>> much too wet for a 4 yard truck load of top soil to get in. We take
>> it one day at at a time. there's no way to guess the weather.
>
>If you had a kid, she might be good for 5 years of lawn mowing
>before she moved out. If it costs $200,000 to raise a kid, that
>would be $40,000 per year for useful years of lawn mowing.
>
>Obviously, if you could raise a kid for less or get more years
>of mowing out of her, the cost would be less.

Maybe you could use a neighbour's child and pay it with lawn
clippings?

On 5/31/2019 3:59 PM, wrote:

>
> That would depend on the lawn... it takes both of us two days every
> week to mow and we know all the topography of where we can mow
> according to weather conditions and where every rock is. .. and that's
> considering ideal weather. It would cost a fortune to have a lawn
> service here, and unless they lived here they couldn't do a good job.

Good for you, but there is more to life for me than mowing grass.

On Fri, 31 May 2019 17:09:39 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 5/31/2019 3:59 PM, wrote:
>
>>
>> That would depend on the lawn... it takes both of us two days every
>> week to mow and we know all the topography of where we can mow
>> according to weather conditions and where every rock is. .. and that's
>> considering ideal weather. It would cost a fortune to have a lawn
>> service here, and unless they lived here they couldn't do a good job.
>
>Good for you, but there is more to life for me than mowing grass.

I've been applying that principle for a year and it's great. Except we
now live in a wilderness.

wrote:
> On Fri, 31 May 2019 10:34:43 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 1:09:28 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 5/31/2019 12:44 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 11:17:12 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 5/31/2019 9:00 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A revolutionary reversal would be to make people get up off the couch
>>>>>>> and walk across the room to change the channel on the TV.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the early 60's, *I* was the tv remote control for my Dad.
>>>>>> "Gary, put it on channel 5 please."
>>>>>>
>>>>> That's what kids are for. That, and mowing the lawn. LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> A lawn service is cheaper.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>> My parents didn't pay me or my brothers to mow the lawn or do chores
>>> when we were kids.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> It costs a ton of money to raise kids (more than $200,000). It's cheaper to hire a lawn service.
>>
>> <http://money.com/money/4629700/child-raising-cost-department-of-agriculture-report/>
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> That would depend on the lawn... it takes both of us two days every
> week to mow and we know all the topography of where we can mow
> according to weather conditions and where every rock is. .. and that's
> considering ideal weather. It would cost a fortune to have a lawn
> service here, and unless they lived here they couldn't do a good job.
> We would have to have a couple three kids to keep up the lawn and we
> are well past that age. We do maintenence ourselves and hire people
> for big jobs like felling large dead trees and stump grinding. With
> all the rain this spring I don't know when we will catch up... hoping
> to get the vegetable garden in next weekend, too wet for tilling and
> much too wet for a 4 yard truck load of top soil to get in. We take
> it one day at at a time. there's no way to guess the weather.
>

Popeye, yoose could just go down to mexico and bring some more
wetbacks home. One to mow, one to clean, one for yoose to hump, and
one to hump yoose old wife.

On 5/31/2019 4:11 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 3:59:12 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 May 2019 10:34:43 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 1:09:28 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 5/31/2019 12:44 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 11:17:12 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/31/2019 9:00 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A revolutionary reversal would be to make people get up off the couch
>>>>>>>> and walk across the room to change the channel on the TV.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the early 60's, *I* was the tv remote control for my Dad.
>>>>>>> "Gary, put it on channel 5 please."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's what kids are for. That, and mowing the lawn. LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> A lawn service is cheaper.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>> My parents didn't pay me or my brothers to mow the lawn or do chores
>>>> when we were kids.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> It costs a ton of money to raise kids (more than $200,000). It's cheaper to hire a lawn service.
>>>
>>> <http://money.com/money/4629700/child-raising-cost-department-of-agriculture-report/>
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> That would depend on the lawn... it takes both of us two days every
>> week to mow and we know all the topography of where we can mow
>> according to weather conditions and where every rock is. .. and that's
>> considering ideal weather. It would cost a fortune to have a lawn
>> service here, and unless they lived here they couldn't do a good job.
>> We would have to have a couple three kids to keep up the lawn and we
>> are well past that age. We do maintenence ourselves and hire people
>> for big jobs like felling large dead trees and stump grinding. With
>> all the rain this spring I don't know when we will catch up... hoping
>> to get the vegetable garden in next weekend, too wet for tilling and
>> much too wet for a 4 yard truck load of top soil to get in. We take
>> it one day at at a time. there's no way to guess the weather.
>
> If you had a kid, she might be good for 5 years of lawn mowing
> before she moved out. If it costs $200,000 to raise a kid, that
> would be $40,000 per year for useful years of lawn mowing.
>
> Obviously, if you could raise a kid for less or get more years
> of mowing out of her, the cost would be less.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Sheldon has an adult daughter and grandkids. Funny how none of them are
much interested in mowing his acres.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> My parents didn't pay me or my brothers to mow the lawn or do chores
> when we were kids.

If I wanted to get my weekly allowance I had to do chores. I had
4 chores.

I was the official grass cutter, taking out the kitchen trash
once or twice a day, taking care of the dog (Collie), and the
official remote control for the tv at night.

Taking care of the dog was my pleasure, not really a chore.
Taking out the trash was easy enough...empty kitchen trash right
outside the kitchen door into the trash can (no bags then)
Cutting the grass once a week was the big one.
We always had huge yards and most years in one place it also
featured several steep parts. A 4 hour job with a push mower.

My chores earned me way under minimum wage at the time. I though
they had child labor laws back then, dammit.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> It costs a ton of money to raise kids (more than $200,000). It's cheaper to hire a lawn service.

I agree.

On 5/31/2019 5:09 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/31/2019 3:59 PM, wrote:
>
>>
>> That would depend on the lawn... it takes both of us two days every
>> week to mow and we know all the topography of where we can mow
>> according to weather conditions and where every rock is. .. and that's
>> considering ideal weather.Â* It would cost a fortune to have a lawn
>> service here, and unless they lived here they couldn't do a good job.
>
> Good for you, but there is more to life for me than mowing grass.
>
Maybe if you had a lawn mower activated by voice commands you'd enjoy it.

Jill

On 6/1/2019 8:43 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> My parents didn't pay me or my brothers to mow the lawn or do chores
>> when we were kids.
>
> If I wanted to get my weekly allowance I had to do chores. I had
> 4 chores.
>
> I was the official grass cutter, taking out the kitchen trash
> once or twice a day, taking care of the dog (Collie), and the
> official remote control for the tv at night.
>
> Taking care of the dog was my pleasure, not really a chore.

Sounds like a nice dog.

> Taking out the trash was easy enough...empty kitchen trash right
> outside the kitchen door into the trash can (no bags then)
> Cutting the grass once a week was the big one.
> We always had huge yards and most years in one place it also
> featured several steep parts. A 4 hour job with a push mower.
>
> My chores earned me way under minimum wage at the time. I though
> they had child labor laws back then, dammit.
>
Difference is, you got an allowance. My dad didn't believe in
allowances. We were expected to do chores because he put a roof over
our heads and clothed and fed us. If we needed pocket money, we had it.

Jill

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message ...

On 5/31/2019 3:28 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Terry Coombs" wrote in message ...
>
> On 5/30/2019 3:43 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>>
>> I got an email this morning from GE. You guys are living in the past.
>>
>> In the past, people used their phones to control their ovens. I mean,
>> how old fashioned is that, taking out your phone and opening an app.
>> All you need to cook a gourmet meal is a microwave and Google Assistant.
>> This is cooking at its best.
>>
>> https://www.geoutletstore.com/GEStor..._JES109 7SMSS
>>
>> With the Google Assistant, you can control your connected microwave with
>> commands like:
>>
>>
>> "Hey Google, run the microwave for 60 seconds."
>>
>> "Hey Google, pause the microwave."
>>
>> "Hey Google, add one minute to the microwave."
>>
>> "Hey Google, how much time is remaining on the microwave?"
>>
>> And more, with just your voice!
>>
>> Once you have your connected microwave and Google Home Mini, getting
>> started is simple. Download the Google Assistant or Google Home app,
>> click "Add device" and search for "U+ Connect."
>>
>> ===
>>
>> LOL enjoy!!!
>
> You see how bad it's gotten ? Can't even nuke an egg without an app
> ! I forgot when I said in another thread that I was going to make bread
> yesterday ... that the oven was out of service . The control board died
> , new one arrived yesterday about noon . So this morning I made 3
> batches of dough . 2 loaves , 15 hot dog buns , 12 burger buns . Then
> discovered I still had a loaf out in the big freezer . And NOT ONCE did
> I use a cell phone , a computer , or an app . The nearest I came was the
> mechanical timers I use to time rise and bake cycles . Well , and the
> electronic control on the oven . I'd have analog if it was still
> available ...
>
> Snag
>
> ====
>
> *Applause* ) Bummer about the oven but ... You sure make a lot all
> at once)
>
> I'm afraid I have to rely on my bread maker (unless I make a no-knead
> bread) The old 'arfur' took over my hands ages ago.
>
>
>
I freeze most of it as soon as it's completely cooled off . It takes
just a few minutes to thaw anything but a loaf , I use the toaster oven
set on about 175°F . The stove is like most new appliances , controlled
by a circuit board and solid state electronics . This is the second
time I've replaced it ...

Snag

====

Oh dear. How long have you had it? Could you not complain to the
maker?

On Sat, 01 Jun 2019 08:43:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>> My parents didn't pay me or my brothers to mow the lawn or do chores
>> when we were kids.
>
>If I wanted to get my weekly allowance I had to do chores. I had
>4 chores.
>
>I was the official grass cutter, taking out the kitchen trash
>once or twice a day, taking care of the dog (Collie), and the
>official remote control for the tv at night.
>
>Taking care of the dog was my pleasure, not really a chore.
>Taking out the trash was easy enough...empty kitchen trash right
>outside the kitchen door into the trash can (no bags then)
>Cutting the grass once a week was the big one.
>We always had huge yards and most years in one place it also
>featured several steep parts. A 4 hour job with a push mower.

Four hours with a push mower couldn't be much of a lawn

>My chores earned me way under minimum wage at the time. I though
>they had child labor laws back then, dammit.

wrote in message ...

On Sat, 01 Jun 2019 08:43:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>> My parents didn't pay me or my brothers to mow the lawn or do chores
>> when we were kids.
>
>If I wanted to get my weekly allowance I had to do chores. I had
>4 chores.
>
>I was the official grass cutter, taking out the kitchen trash
>once or twice a day, taking care of the dog (Collie), and the
>official remote control for the tv at night.
>
>Taking care of the dog was my pleasure, not really a chore.
>Taking out the trash was easy enough...empty kitchen trash right
>outside the kitchen door into the trash can (no bags then)
>Cutting the grass once a week was the big one.
>We always had huge yards and most years in one place it also
>featured several steep parts. A 4 hour job with a push mower.

Four hours with a push mower couldn't be much of a lawn

=============

He was just a kid!

>My chores earned me way under minimum wage at the time. I though
>they had child labor laws back then, dammit.

Ophelia wrote:
>
> wrote in message ...
>
> On Sat, 01 Jun 2019 08:43:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> >jmcquown wrote:
> >> My parents didn't pay me or my brothers to mow the lawn or do chores
> >> when we were kids.
> >
> >If I wanted to get my weekly allowance I had to do chores. I had
> >4 chores.
> >
> >I was the official grass cutter, taking out the kitchen trash
> >once or twice a day, taking care of the dog (Collie), and the
> >official remote control for the tv at night.
> >
> >Taking care of the dog was my pleasure, not really a chore.
> >Taking out the trash was easy enough...empty kitchen trash right
> >outside the kitchen door into the trash can (no bags then)
> >Cutting the grass once a week was the big one.
> >We always had huge yards and most years in one place it also
> >featured several steep parts. A 4 hour job with a push mower.
>
> Four hours with a push mower couldn't be much of a lawn
>
> =============
>
> He was just a kid!

That yard was not all baby flat surface either like Sheldon has.
Part of the front yard had steep low hills and the backyard was
mostly very steep hill work. Had to mow sideways and also push
against the upside of the hill, otherwise the mower would topple
over.

I do have a picture of the front yard but none of the silly steep
backyard. Cutting the grass there was only for looks. No one ever
climbed the back yard. Back yard was about 15 feet of flat land
from house to bottom of the hill. The hill part (most of it - was
a joke). IMO, I would have left that natural with no grass to
cut. It was fairly dangerous to cut that worthless grass.

On Saturday, June 1, 2019 at 9:00:45 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 6/1/2019 8:43 AM, Gary wrote:
>
> > If I wanted to get my weekly allowance I had to do chores. I had
> > 4 chores.
> >
> > My chores earned me way under minimum wage at the time. I though
> > they had child labor laws back then, dammit.
> >
> Difference is, you got an allowance. My dad didn't believe in
> allowances. We were expected to do chores because he put a roof over
> our heads and clothed and fed us. If we needed pocket money, we had it.
>
> Jill
>
Same way at our house, Jill. My parents didn't pay an allowance because,
like you said, my dad put a roof over our heads, my mom cooked, cleaned
and sewed for us. Why would he want to pay us for cleaning up messes that
were ones we created or at least we created most of the messes? We needed
shoes, jackets, dresses, slacks for the boys, school supplies, etc., we
got them.

But I do wish many times I had gotten an allowance with the stipulation that
any school supplies were to be paid for out of that money and THEN I could
spend the surplus would have been a valuable teaching tool. Right out of
high school and first job I was not good at handling money and budgeting.

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> wrote in message ...
>
> On Sat, 01 Jun 2019 08:43:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> >jmcquown wrote:
> >> My parents didn't pay me or my brothers to mow the lawn or do chores
> >> when we were kids.
> >
> >If I wanted to get my weekly allowance I had to do chores. I had
> >4 chores.
> >
> >I was the official grass cutter, taking out the kitchen trash
> >once or twice a day, taking care of the dog (Collie), and the
> >official remote control for the tv at night.
> >
> >Taking care of the dog was my pleasure, not really a chore.
> >Taking out the trash was easy enough...empty kitchen trash right
> >outside the kitchen door into the trash can (no bags then)
> >Cutting the grass once a week was the big one.
> >We always had huge yards and most years in one place it also
> >featured several steep parts. A 4 hour job with a push mower.
>
> Four hours with a push mower couldn't be much of a lawn
>
> =============
>
> He was just a kid!

That yard was not all baby flat surface either like Sheldon has.
Part of the front yard had steep low hills and the backyard was
mostly very steep hill work. Had to mow sideways and also push
against the upside of the hill, otherwise the mower would topple
over.

I do have a picture of the front yard but none of the silly steep
backyard. Cutting the grass there was only for looks. No one ever
climbed the back yard. Back yard was about 15 feet of flat land
from house to bottom of the hill. The hill part (most of it - was
a joke). IMO, I would have left that natural with no grass to
cut. It was fairly dangerous to cut that worthless grass.

====

They were lucky to have you!

On 5/31/2019 5:20 PM, Bruce wrote:
> I've been applying that principle for a year and it's great. Except we
> now live in a wilderness.
>

You whole kuntry is a steaming shit pile.