itsjoan, I have been "accused" of not recognizing humor, but I think it must be the case in
dsi1's post.

Maybe he meant the 1860s. Or even 1760s.

N.

On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
> itsjoan, I have been "accused" of not recognizing humor, but I think it must be the case in
> dsi1's post.
>
> Maybe he meant the 1860s. Or even 1760s.
>
> N.

I do like to write with tongue-in-cheek but in this case, that's what I've read in several different sources. The Col. introduced biscuits to the Yankees in the 60's. Before that, biscuits weren't a "thing" in the North. To this day, biscuits aren't a thing in the North like it is in the South.

I'm not saying that this is true, only that it's what I have read. If anyone has information to the contrary this is where they're supposed to put their two bits in. I'd appreciate that. What I don't appreciate is any nasty personal remarks about my posts or my opinions.

dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
>> itsjoan, I have been "accused" of not recognizing humor, but I think it must be the case in
>> dsi1's post.
>>
>> Maybe he meant the 1860s. Or even 1760s.
>>
>> N.
>
> I do like to write with tongue-in-cheek but in this case, that's what I've read in several different sources. The Col. introduced biscuits to the Yankees in the 60's. Before that, biscuits weren't a "thing" in the North. To this day, biscuits aren't a thing in the North like it is in the South.
>
> I'm not saying that this is true, only that it's what I have read. If anyone has information to the contrary this is where they're supposed to put their two bits in. I'd appreciate that. What I don't appreciate is any nasty personal remarks about my posts or my opinions.
>
These are biscuits to me,
https://tinyurl.com/y6o4wtf3

https://tinyurl.com/yyj6umzh

And these are similar to my original only mine were much larger, flatter
and had more fruit,

https://tinyurl.com/y6ftwvjd

On Fri, 10 May 2019 18:08:58 +1000, FMurtz >
wrote:

>dsi1 wrote:
>> On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
>>> itsjoan, I have been "accused" of not recognizing humor, but I think it must be the case in
>>> dsi1's post.
>>>
>>> Maybe he meant the 1860s. Or even 1760s.
>>>
>>> N.
>>
>> I do like to write with tongue-in-cheek but in this case, that's what I've read in several different sources. The Col. introduced biscuits to the Yankees in the 60's. Before that, biscuits weren't a "thing" in the North. To this day, biscuits aren't a thing in the North like it is in the South.
>>
>> I'm not saying that this is true, only that it's what I have read. If anyone has information to the contrary this is where they're supposed to put their two bits in. I'd appreciate that. What I don't appreciate is any nasty personal remarks about my posts or my opinions.
>>
>These are biscuits to me,
>https://tinyurl.com/y6o4wtf3
>
>https://tinyurl.com/yyj6umzh

Way too fancy. These are biscuits to me:
<http://www.taartzonderoven.nl/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/biscuitjes-klein.jpg>

These links to "biscuits," look like cookies to me.

I, a US native in the northern plains, am positive that my great grandmother (whom
I knew), was making biscuits way before 1960. So whatever you read, it seems to have
been a propaganda piece put forth by KFC.

More a "southern thing," that may be; I wouldn't know. I do know that biscuits and gravy are very
popular and available here in the North, and many, many diners offer biscuits alongside regular
entrees.

N.

Nancy2 wrote:
> These links to "biscuits," look like cookies to me.

In most of the world they are biscuits, only where you live are they
cookies Like only where you live people use soder for sodering
>
> I, a US native in the northern plains, am positive that my great grandmother (whom
> I knew), was making biscuits way before 1960. So whatever you read, it seems to have
> been a propaganda piece put forth by KFC.
>
> More a "southern thing," that may be; I wouldn't know. I do know that biscuits and gravy are very
> popular and available here in the North, and many, many diners offer biscuits alongside regular
> entrees.
>
> N.
>

On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 9:06:31 AM UTC-4, FMurtz wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
> > These links to "biscuits," look like cookies to me.
>
> In most of the world they are biscuits, only where you live are they
> cookies Like only where you live people use soder for sodering

No, we use solder for soldering.

<https://www.circuitspecialists.com/blog/solder-not-sodder-the-story-behind-the-silent-or-not-so-silent-l/>

Cindy Hamilton

On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 8:06:31 AM UTC-5, FMurtz wrote:
>
> where you live people use soder for sodering
>
No, we use solder for soldering.

Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 10 May 2019 18:08:58 +1000, FMurtz >
> wrote:
>
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>> itsjoan, I have been "accused" of not recognizing humor, but I think it must be the case in
>>>> dsi1's post.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe he meant the 1860s. Or even 1760s.
>>>>
>>>> N.
>>>
>>> I do like to write with tongue-in-cheek but in this case, that's what I've read in several different sources. The Col. introduced biscuits to the Yankees in the 60's. Before that, biscuits weren't a "thing" in the North. To this day, biscuits aren't a thing in the North like it is in the South.
>>>
>>> I'm not saying that this is true, only that it's what I have read. If anyone has information to the contrary this is where they're supposed to put their two bits in. I'd appreciate that. What I don't appreciate is any nasty personal remarks about my posts or my opinions.
>>>
>> These are biscuits to me,
>> https://tinyurl.com/y6o4wtf3
>>
>> https://tinyurl.com/yyj6umzh
>
> Way too fancy. These are biscuits to me:
> <http://www.taartzonderoven.nl/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/biscuitjes-klein.jpg>
>
Them too.

"FMurtz" wrote in message ...

dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
>> itsjoan, I have been "accused" of not recognizing humor, but I think it
>> must be the case in
>> dsi1's post.
>>
>> Maybe he meant the 1860s. Or even 1760s.
>>
>> N.
>
> I do like to write with tongue-in-cheek but in this case, that's what I've
> read in several different sources. The Col. introduced biscuits to the
> Yankees in the 60's. Before that, biscuits weren't a "thing" in the North.
> To this day, biscuits aren't a thing in the North like it is in the South.
>
> I'm not saying that this is true, only that it's what I have read. If
> anyone has information to the contrary this is where they're supposed to
> put their two bits in. I'd appreciate that. What I don't appreciate is any
> nasty personal remarks about my posts or my opinions.
>
These are biscuits to me,
https://tinyurl.com/y6o4wtf3

Yes, those are biscuits in UK )

https://tinyurl.com/yyj6umzh

And these are similar to my original only mine were much larger, flatter
and had more fruit,

https://tinyurl.com/y6ftwvjd

Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "FMurtz"Â* wrote in message ...
>
> dsi1 wrote:
>> On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
>>> itsjoan, I have been "accused" of not recognizing humor, but I think
>>> it must be the case in
>>> dsi1's post.
>>>
>>> Maybe he meant the 1860s.Â* Or even 1760s.
>>>
>>> N.
>>
>> I do like to write with tongue-in-cheek but in this case, that's what
>> I've read in several different sources. The Col. introduced biscuits
>> to the Yankees in the 60's. Before that, biscuits weren't a "thing" in
>> the North. To this day, biscuits aren't a thing in the North like it
>> is in the South.
>>
>> I'm not saying that this is true, only that it's what I have read. If
>> anyone has information to the contrary this is where they're supposed
>> to put their two bits in. I'd appreciate that. What I don't appreciate
>> is any nasty personal remarks about my posts or my opinions.
>>
> These are biscuits to me,
> https://tinyurl.com/y6o4wtf3
>
> Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Yes, those are biscuits in UK )
and in most of the world like Australia where I live.
>
> https://tinyurl.com/yyj6umzh
>
> And these are similar to my original only mine were much larger, flatter
> and had more fruit,
>
> https://tinyurl.com/y6ftwvjd

On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 9:07:40 AM UTC-4, FMurtz wrote:


> > Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Yes, those are biscuits in UK )
> and in most of the world like Australia where I live.

I wonder what they call them in China or other countries that
are not former British colonies. Perhaps your definition of
"most of the world" needs some adjustment.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 9:07:40 AM UTC-4, FMurtz wrote:
>
>
>>> Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Yes, those are biscuits in UK )
>> and in most of the world like Australia where I live.
>
> I wonder what they call them in China or other countries that
> are not former British colonies. Perhaps your definition of
> "most of the world" needs some adjustment.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
I thought that it would be self evident that I meant English speaking
world as others don't always use English and would not have the English
cookies or biscuits in their language
They may have different words for different biscuits.
By the way I often bake twice for biscuits that I want crunchy,(same as
chips)(french fries to you)

On Fri, 10 May 2019 06:32:23 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 9:07:40 AM UTC-4, FMurtz wrote:
>
>
>> > ************************* Yes, those are biscuits in UK )
>> and in most of the world like Australia where I live.
>
>I wonder what they call them in China or other countries that
>are not former British colonies. Perhaps your definition of
>"most of the world" needs some adjustment.

Good point.

On Fri, 10 May 2019 23:07:33 +1000, FMurtz >
wrote:

>Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "FMurtz"* wrote in message ...
>>
>> These are biscuits to me,
>> https://tinyurl.com/y6o4wtf3
>>
>> ************************* Yes, those are biscuits in UK )
>and in most of the world like Australia where I live.

Not in my most of the world before Australia. Nor would the original
biscuits have been very fancy. Of course words' meanings can change
over time. I bet there's a country where they call a wedding cake a
biscuit.

Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 10 May 2019 23:07:33 +1000, FMurtz >
> wrote:
>
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "FMurtz"Â* wrote in message ...
>>>
>>> These are biscuits to me,
>>> https://tinyurl.com/y6o4wtf3
>>>
>>> Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Yes, those are biscuits in UK )
>> and in most of the world like Australia where I live.
>
> Not in my most of the world before Australia. Nor would the original
> biscuits have been very fancy. Of course words' meanings can change
> over time. I bet there's a country where they call a wedding cake a
> biscuit.
>
But almost nowhere are they called cookies except USA although you are
contaminating our English with the young who watch American media and
eat imported biscuits or local biscuits named cookies because makers
think they will sell more copying you lot

dsi1 wrote:

> On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
> > itsjoan, I have been "accused" of not recognizing humor, but I
> > think it must be the case in dsi1's post.
> >
> > Maybe he meant the 1860s. Or even 1760s.
> >
> > N.
>
> I do like to write with tongue-in-cheek but in this case, that's what
> I've read in several different sources. The Col. introduced biscuits
> to the Yankees in the 60's. Before that, biscuits weren't a "thing"
> in the North. To this day, biscuits aren't a thing in the North like
> it is in the South.
>
> I'm not saying that this is true, only that it's what I have read. If
> anyone has information to the contrary this is where they're supposed
> to put their two bits in. I'd appreciate that. What I don't
> appreciate is any nasty personal remarks about my posts or my
> opinions.

Then you missed it in mainland history.

Did people make them in Saint Louis then? No we didnt have a Saint
Louis. Did them make them in San Diego, Seattle, Ankorage etc then?
Of course not. We had not spread to there yet in 1776.

On Monday, May 13, 2019 at 2:27:00 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
> > > itsjoan, I have been "accused" of not recognizing humor, but I
> > > think it must be the case in dsi1's post.
> > >
> > > Maybe he meant the 1860s. Or even 1760s.
> > >
> > > N.
> >
> > I do like to write with tongue-in-cheek but in this case, that's what
> > I've read in several different sources. The Col. introduced biscuits
> > to the Yankees in the 60's. Before that, biscuits weren't a "thing"
> > in the North. To this day, biscuits aren't a thing in the North like
> > it is in the South.
> >
> > I'm not saying that this is true, only that it's what I have read. If
> > anyone has information to the contrary this is where they're supposed
> > to put their two bits in. I'd appreciate that. What I don't
> > appreciate is any nasty personal remarks about my posts or my
> > opinions.
>
> Then you missed it in mainland history.
>
> Did people make them in Saint Louis then? No we didnt have a Saint
> Louis. Did them make them in San Diego, Seattle, Ankorage etc then?
> Of course not. We had not spread to there yet in 1776.

I suspect you might have gone a bit daft. Nobody's talking about 1776. Of course they made biscuits back then but they would be like a dry cookie/cracker - not the Southern biscuit of today.

My guess is that the Southern style biscuit, as we know it, didn't come around until after the American civil war, when self-rising flour became available. As far as self-rising flour goes, that stuff has been popular mostly in the South. The yanks have always preferred to add their own leavening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2e-Lxm4Pt4

On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 4:12:47 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, May 13, 2019 at 2:27:00 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
> > > > itsjoan, I have been "accused" of not recognizing humor, but I
> > > > think it must be the case in dsi1's post.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe he meant the 1860s. Or even 1760s.
> > > >
> > > > N.
> > >
> > > I do like to write with tongue-in-cheek but in this case, that's what
> > > I've read in several different sources. The Col. introduced biscuits
> > > to the Yankees in the 60's. Before that, biscuits weren't a "thing"
> > > in the North. To this day, biscuits aren't a thing in the North like
> > > it is in the South.
> > >
> > > I'm not saying that this is true, only that it's what I have read. If
> > > anyone has information to the contrary this is where they're supposed
> > > to put their two bits in. I'd appreciate that. What I don't
> > > appreciate is any nasty personal remarks about my posts or my
> > > opinions.
> >
> > Then you missed it in mainland history.
> >
> > Did people make them in Saint Louis then? No we didnt have a Saint
> > Louis. Did them make them in San Diego, Seattle, Ankorage etc then?
> > Of course not. We had not spread to there yet in 1776.
>
> I suspect you might have gone a bit daft. Nobody's talking about 1776. Of course they made biscuits back then but they would be like a dry cookie/cracker - not the Southern biscuit of today.
>
> My guess is that the Southern style biscuit, as we know it, didn't come around until after the American civil war, when self-rising flour became available. As far as self-rising flour goes, that stuff has been popular mostly in the South. The yanks have always preferred to add their own leavening.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2e-Lxm4Pt4

Don't guess. Research.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biscuit_(bread)#History>

Cindy Hamilton

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 4:12:47 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, May 13, 2019 at 2:27:00 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
> > > > itsjoan, I have been "accused" of not recognizing humor, but I
> > > > think it must be the case in dsi1's post.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe he meant the 1860s. Or even 1760s.
> > > >
> > > > N.
> > >
> > > I do like to write with tongue-in-cheek but in this case, that's what
> > > I've read in several different sources. The Col. introduced biscuits
> > > to the Yankees in the 60's. Before that, biscuits weren't a "thing"
> > > in the North. To this day, biscuits aren't a thing in the North like
> > > it is in the South.
> > >
> > > I'm not saying that this is true, only that it's what I have read. If
> > > anyone has information to the contrary this is where they're supposed
> > > to put their two bits in. I'd appreciate that. What I don't
> > > appreciate is any nasty personal remarks about my posts or my
> > > opinions.
> >
> > Then you missed it in mainland history.
> >
> > Did people make them in Saint Louis then? No we didnt have a Saint
> > Louis. Did them make them in San Diego, Seattle, Ankorage etc then?
> > Of course not. We had not spread to there yet in 1776.
>
> I suspect you might have gone a bit daft. Nobody's talking about 1776. Of
> course they made biscuits back then but they would be like a dry
> cookie/cracker - not the Southern biscuit of today.
>
> My guess is that the Southern style biscuit, as we know it, didn't come
> around until after the American civil war, when self-rising flour became
> available. As far as self-rising flour goes, that stuff has been popular
> mostly in the South. The yanks have always preferred to add their own
> leavening.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2e-Lxm4Pt4

Don't guess. Research.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biscuit_(bread)#History>

Cindy Hamilton

==

Elizabeth David is one my favourite cooks and I have a several of her
books)

On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 12:11:35 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 4:12:47 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, May 13, 2019 at 2:27:00 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > > dsi1 wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
> > > > > itsjoan, I have been "accused" of not recognizing humor, but I
> > > > > think it must be the case in dsi1's post.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe he meant the 1860s. Or even 1760s.
> > > > >
> > > > > N.
> > > >
> > > > I do like to write with tongue-in-cheek but in this case, that's what
> > > > I've read in several different sources. The Col. introduced biscuits
> > > > to the Yankees in the 60's. Before that, biscuits weren't a "thing"
> > > > in the North. To this day, biscuits aren't a thing in the North like
> > > > it is in the South.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not saying that this is true, only that it's what I have read. If
> > > > anyone has information to the contrary this is where they're supposed
> > > > to put their two bits in. I'd appreciate that. What I don't
> > > > appreciate is any nasty personal remarks about my posts or my
> > > > opinions.
> > >
> > > Then you missed it in mainland history.
> > >
> > > Did people make them in Saint Louis then? No we didnt have a Saint
> > > Louis. Did them make them in San Diego, Seattle, Ankorage etc then?
> > > Of course not. We had not spread to there yet in 1776.
> >
> > I suspect you might have gone a bit daft. Nobody's talking about 1776. Of course they made biscuits back then but they would be like a dry cookie/cracker - not the Southern biscuit of today.
> >
> > My guess is that the Southern style biscuit, as we know it, didn't come around until after the American civil war, when self-rising flour became available. As far as self-rising flour goes, that stuff has been popular mostly in the South. The yanks have always preferred to add their own leavening.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2e-Lxm4Pt4
>
> Don't guess. Research.
>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biscuit_(bread)#History>
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Your link sucks. It doesn't shed light on the question of when the Southern biscuit came about. My guess is that the Southern biscuit didn't come around until after the civil war.

On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 1:06:36 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 12:11:35 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > Don't guess. Research.
> >
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biscuit_(bread)#History>
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> Your link sucks. It doesn't shed light on the question of when the Southern biscuit came about. My guess is that the Southern biscuit didn't come around until after the civil war.

Here's the stuff from that page:

The biscuit emerged as a distinct food type in the early 19th century,
before the American Civil War. Cooks created a cheaply produced
addition for their meals that required no yeast, which was expensive
and difficult to store. With no leavening agents except the bitter-
tasting pearlash available, beaten biscuits were laboriously beaten and
folded to incorporate air into the dough which expanded when heated in
the oven causing the biscuit to rise.

Baking powder was invented in 1843. Arm & Hammer baking soda came
out in 1846.

Cindy Hamilton

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Monday, May 13, 2019 at 2:27:00 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
> > > itsjoan, I have been "accused" of not recognizing humor, but I
> > > think it must be the case in dsi1's post.
> > >
> > > Maybe he meant the 1860s. Or even 1760s.
> > >
> > > N.
> >
> > I do like to write with tongue-in-cheek but in this case, that's what
> > I've read in several different sources. The Col. introduced biscuits
> > to the Yankees in the 60's. Before that, biscuits weren't a "thing"
> > in the North. To this day, biscuits aren't a thing in the North like
> > it is in the South.
> >
> > I'm not saying that this is true, only that it's what I have read. If
> > anyone has information to the contrary this is where they're supposed
> > to put their two bits in. I'd appreciate that. What I don't
> > appreciate is any nasty personal remarks about my posts or my
> > opinions.
>
> Then you missed it in mainland history.
>
> Did people make them in Saint Louis then? No we didnt have a Saint
> Louis. Did them make them in San Diego, Seattle, Ankorage etc then?
> Of course not. We had not spread to there yet in 1776.

I suspect you might have gone a bit daft. Nobody's talking about 1776. Of
course they made biscuits back then but they would be like a dry
cookie/cracker - not the Southern biscuit of today.

My guess is that the Southern style biscuit, as we know it, didn't come
around until after the American civil war, when self-rising flour became
available. As far as self-rising flour goes, that stuff has been popular
mostly in the South. The yanks have always preferred to add their own
leavening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2e-Lxm4Pt4

---

Interesting. I've never used self rising.

On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 1:00:17 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> Interesting. I've never used self rising.

Me nether. I've never even heard of the stuff until around 20 years ago.

On 2019-05-14 4:12 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, May 13, 2019 at 2:27:00 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>> itsjoan, I have been "accused" of not recognizing humor, but I
>>>> think it must be the case in dsi1's post.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe he meant the 1860s. Or even 1760s.
>>>>
>>>> N.
>>>
>>> I do like to write with tongue-in-cheek but in this case, that's
>>> what I've read in several different sources. The Col. introduced
>>> biscuits to the Yankees in the 60's. Before that, biscuits
>>> weren't a "thing" in the North. To this day, biscuits aren't a
>>> thing in the North like it is in the South.
>>>
>>> I'm not saying that this is true, only that it's what I have
>>> read. If anyone has information to the contrary this is where
>>> they're supposed to put their two bits in. I'd appreciate that.
>>> What I don't appreciate is any nasty personal remarks about my
>>> posts or my opinions.
>>
>> Then you missed it in mainland history.
>>
>> Did people make them in Saint Louis then? No we didnt have a
>> Saint Louis. Did them make them in San Diego, Seattle, Ankorage
>> etc then? Of course not. We had not spread to there yet in 1776.
>
> I suspect you might have gone a bit daft. Nobody's talking about
> 1776. Of course they made biscuits back then but they would be like a
> dry cookie/cracker - not the Southern biscuit of today.
>
> My guess is that the Southern style biscuit, as we know it, didn't
> come around until after the American civil war, when self-rising
> flour became available. As far as self-rising flour goes, that stuff
> has been popular mostly in the South. The yanks have always preferred
> to add their own leavening.
>
That is a strange guess because they had baking powder. I make biscuits
frequently and I don't think I have ever even had self-rising flour in
the house.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Monday, May 13, 2019 at 2:27:00 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
> > > itsjoan, I have been "accused" of not recognizing humor, but I
> > > think it must be the case in dsi1's post.
> > >
> > > Maybe he meant the 1860s. Or even 1760s.
> > >
> > > N.
> >
> > I do like to write with tongue-in-cheek but in this case, that's what
> > I've read in several different sources. The Col. introduced biscuits
> > to the Yankees in the 60's. Before that, biscuits weren't a "thing"
> > in the North. To this day, biscuits aren't a thing in the North like
> > it is in the South.
> >
> > I'm not saying that this is true, only that it's what I have read. If
> > anyone has information to the contrary this is where they're supposed
> > to put their two bits in. I'd appreciate that. What I don't
> > appreciate is any nasty personal remarks about my posts or my
> > opinions.
>
> Then you missed it in mainland history.
>
> Did people make them in Saint Louis then? No we didnt have a Saint
> Louis. Did them make them in San Diego, Seattle, Ankorage etc then?
> Of course not. We had not spread to there yet in 1776.

I suspect you might have gone a bit daft. Nobody's talking about 1776. Of
course they made biscuits back then but they would be like a dry
cookie/cracker - not the Southern biscuit of today.

My guess is that the Southern style biscuit, as we know it, didn't come
around until after the American civil war, when self-rising flour became
available. As far as self-rising flour goes, that stuff has been popular
mostly in the South. The yanks have always preferred to add their own
leavening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2e-Lxm4Pt4

===

Interesting stuff Thanks

dsi1 wrote:

> On Monday, May 13, 2019 at 2:27:00 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
> > > > itsjoan, I have been "accused" of not recognizing humor, but I
> > > > think it must be the case in dsi1's post.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe he meant the 1860s. Or even 1760s.
> > > >
> > > > N.
> > >
> > > I do like to write with tongue-in-cheek but in this case, that's
> > > what I've read in several different sources. The Col. introduced
> > > biscuits to the Yankees in the 60's. Before that, biscuits
> > > weren't a "thing" in the North. To this day, biscuits aren't a
> > > thing in the North like it is in the South.
> > >
> > > I'm not saying that this is true, only that it's what I have
> > > read. If anyone has information to the contrary this is where
> > > they're supposed to put their two bits in. I'd appreciate that.
> > > What I don't appreciate is any nasty personal remarks about my
> > > posts or my opinions.
> >
> > Then you missed it in mainland history.
> >
> > Did people make them in Saint Louis then? No we didnt have a Saint
> > Louis. Did them make them in San Diego, Seattle, Ankorage etc then?
> > Of course not. We had not spread to there yet in 1776.
>
> I suspect you might have gone a bit daft. Nobody's talking about
> 1776. Of course they made biscuits back then but they would be like a
> dry cookie/cracker - not the Southern biscuit of today.
>
> My guess is that the Southern style biscuit, as we know it, didn't
> come around until after the American civil war, when self-rising
> flour became available. As far as self-rising flour goes, that stuff
> has been popular mostly in the South. The yanks have always preferred
> to add their own leavening.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2e-Lxm4Pt4

Read the recipes. Self rising flour was just premix of baking soda to
make it faster. They did it long before that.

On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 3:42:09 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>
> Read the recipes. Self rising flour was just premix of baking soda to
> make it faster. They did it long before that.

Once again you have blown it. You could have provided a link to illustrate your claim but you did nothing. I would expect nothing less - or more.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Monday, May 13, 2019 at 2:27:00 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
> > > > itsjoan, I have been "accused" of not recognizing humor, but I
> > > > think it must be the case in dsi1's post.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe he meant the 1860s. Or even 1760s.
> > > >
> > > > N.
> > >
> > > I do like to write with tongue-in-cheek but in this case, that's what
> > > I've read in several different sources. The Col. introduced biscuits
> > > to the Yankees in the 60's. Before that, biscuits weren't a "thing"
> > > in the North. To this day, biscuits aren't a thing in the North like
> > > it is in the South.
> > >
> > > I'm not saying that this is true, only that it's what I have read. If
> > > anyone has information to the contrary this is where they're supposed
> > > to put their two bits in. I'd appreciate that. What I don't
> > > appreciate is any nasty personal remarks about my posts or my
> > > opinions.
> >
> > Then you missed it in mainland history.
> >
> > Did people make them in Saint Louis then? No we didnt have a Saint
> > Louis. Did them make them in San Diego, Seattle, Ankorage etc then?
> > Of course not. We had not spread to there yet in 1776.
>
> I suspect you might have gone a bit daft. Nobody's talking about 1776. Of course they made biscuits back then but they would be like a dry cookie/cracker - not the Southern biscuit of today.
>
> My guess is that the Southern style biscuit, as we know it, didn't come around until after the American civil war, when self-rising flour became available. As far as self-rising flour goes, that stuff has been popular mostly in the South. The yanks have always preferred to add their own leavening.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2e-Lxm4Pt4
>
WHAT DO YOU CALL TWO CHINESE IN A TRANS AM?

THE GOOKS OF HAZZARD .

Nancy2 wrote:

> itsjoan, I have been "accused" of not recognizing humor, but I think
> it must be the case in dsi1's post.
>
> Maybe he meant the 1860s. Or even 1760s.
>
> N.

More like 1760's.....