OK, I did it!

I finally added some rice to my red beans. Plus, I kinda changed my
beans recipe. Started to make nb's minestrone, then changed my mind.

So, while the beans are most like "red beans" they have a beef broth
(BtB) base, like the minestrone. Not bad. I may keep it.

OTOH, the rice literally disappears in the mix. Kinda like Popeye's
RB&R, which I like. Trouble is, I've found the extra starches are
starting to let me gain weight.

nb

On 5/5/2019 1:34 PM, notbob wrote:
> OK, I did it!
>
> I finally added some rice to my red beans.Â* Plus, I kinda changed my
> beans recipe.Â* Started to make nb's minestrone, then changed my mind.
>
> So, while the beans are most like "red beans" they have a beef broth
> (BtB) base, like the minestrone.Â* Not bad.Â* I may keep it.
>
> OTOH, the rice literally disappears in the mix.Â* Kinda like Popeye's
> RB&R, which I like.Â* Trouble is, I've found the extra starches are
> starting to let me gain weight.Â*
>
> nb

Don't eat the entire pot in one sitting!

I like red beans & rice but also black beans & rice (same seasonings,
loosely based on Paul Prudhomme's). I plan to make that again soon as I
have some andouille sausage in the freezer. I like to make cornsticks
or cornbread to go with it. A pot of red beans & rice or black beans &
rice lasts several days here. It also freezes well, as does the
cornbread or cornsticks.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
> A pot of red beans & rice or black beans &
> rice lasts several days here.

Those meals would last me several years until I finally tossed
them. lol

On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 10:00:48 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > A pot of red beans & rice or black beans &
> > rice lasts several days here.
>
> Those meals would last me several years until I finally tossed
> them. lol
>
Why?

On 5/6/2019 12:40 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 10:00:48 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> A pot of red beans & rice or black beans &
>>> rice lasts several days here.
>>
>> Those meals would last me several years until I finally tossed
>> them. lol
>>
> Why?
>
He doesn't like it so that's a reason to scoff.

Jill

On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 12:46:16 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/6/2019 12:40 PM, wrote:
> > On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 10:00:48 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> >>
> >> jmcquown wrote:
> >>>
> >>> A pot of red beans & rice or black beans &
> >>> rice lasts several days here.
> >>
> >> Those meals would last me several years until I finally tossed
> >> them. lol
> >>
> > Why?
> >
> He doesn't like it so that's a reason to scoff.
>
> Jill

Not that I'd make red beans and rice, but they'd last me about 30 seconds
before I threw them out. I don't know why Gary is so patient.

I'm just not a fan of beans. Nothing wrong with liking them, and I often
wish I did.

Cindy Hamilton

On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 12:51:00 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 12:46:16 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 5/6/2019 12:40 PM, wrote:
> > > On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 10:00:48 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > >>
> > >> jmcquown wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> A pot of red beans & rice or black beans &
> > >>> rice lasts several days here.
> > >>
> > >> Those meals would last me several years until I finally tossed
> > >> them. lol
> > >>
> > > Why?
> > >
> > He doesn't like it so that's a reason to scoff.
> >
> > Jill
>
> Not that I'd make red beans and rice, but they'd last me about 30 seconds
> before I threw them out. I don't know why Gary is so patient.
>
> I'm just not a fan of beans. Nothing wrong with liking them, and I often
> wish I did.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

i like beans. never had red beans and rice. shouldn't there be some smoked ham in there? i like beans in my chili which goes against what the 'purists' think that chili should be. like bean chowder with smoked ham in there. i like boston beans, although they are unhealthy for me(they are too sweet for a diabetic).

On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 11:46:16 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 5/6/2019 12:40 PM, wrote:
>
> > On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 10:00:48 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> >>
> >> jmcquown wrote:
> >>>
> >>> A pot of red beans & rice or black beans &
> >>> rice lasts several days here.
> >>
> >> Those meals would last me several years until I finally tossed
> >> them. lol
> >>
> > Why?
> >
> He doesn't like it so that's a reason to scoff.
>
> Jill
>
Ooooooh.

On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 12:09:01 PM UTC-5, A Moose in Love wrote:
>
> On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 12:51:00 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > Not that I'd make red beans and rice, but they'd last me about 30 seconds
> > before I threw them out. I don't know why Gary is so patient.
> >
> > I'm just not a fan of beans. Nothing wrong with liking them, and I often
> > wish I did.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> i like beans. never had red beans and rice. shouldn't there be some smoked ham in there? i like beans in my chili which goes against what the 'purists' think that chili should be. like bean chowder with smoked ham in there. i like boston beans, although they are unhealthy for me(they are too sweet for a diabetic).
>
I've had red beans and rice ONCE. They were absolutely lip smacking, to die
for delicious and it was only a cup/mug and they were sooooo good I think I
could have eaten 6 bowls of the stuff. B-u-t the next day I had gas really,
really, REALLY bad and it r.a.n.k. However, if someone put a bowl in front
of me this minute I'd dig in without hesitation.

On 5/6/2019 1:18 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 12:09:01 PM UTC-5, A Moose in Love wrote:
>>
>> On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 12:51:00 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> Not that I'd make red beans and rice, but they'd last me about 30 seconds
>>> before I threw them out. I don't know why Gary is so patient.
>>>
>>> I'm just not a fan of beans. Nothing wrong with liking them, and I often
>>> wish I did.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> i like beans. never had red beans and rice. shouldn't there be some smoked ham in there?
<piggybacking>

IMHO, no. Andouille sausage. Never had red beans and rice? Try it and
report back. You may or may not like it.

Cindy doesn't have to like it, either. For some reason I don't have the
same gastric issues from eating beans as many people seem to report. Yay!

Jill

On Mon, 6 May 2019 12:46:11 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 5/6/2019 12:40 PM, wrote:
>> On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 10:00:48 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A pot of red beans & rice or black beans &
>>>> rice lasts several days here.
>>>
>>> Those meals would last me several years until I finally tossed
>>> them. lol
>>>
>> Why?
>>
>He doesn't like it so that's a reason to scoff.
>
>Jill

Actually Gary has to reply to every thread even if negative while
adding nothing... he's competing with JB. If he doesn't like rice
and beans why does he prepare them, only to trash them?
We like rice and beans but I prepare them like a pilaf, with diced
veggies (celery, bell pepper, garlic, parsley, even corn niblets and
diced tomatoes, sometines with ground beef) and well seasoned. I
prepare a 6 qt potful as it freezes well.... makes a good side for
pork chops, chicken breasts, etc. My wife grew up with rice and
beans, was on the table most every day.... she prefers hers with
seafood but I don't do seafood at home and my wife agrees, she doesn't
like her clothing to smell of fish either,

On Mon, 6 May 2019 09:50:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 12:46:16 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/6/2019 12:40 PM, wrote:
>> > On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 10:00:48 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> >>
>> >> jmcquown wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> A pot of red beans & rice or black beans &
>> >>> rice lasts several days here.
>> >>
>> >> Those meals would last me several years until I finally tossed
>> >> them. lol
>> >>
>> > Why?
>> >
>> He doesn't like it so that's a reason to scoff.
>>
>> Jill
>
>Not that I'd make red beans and rice, but they'd last me about 30 seconds
>before I threw them out. I don't know why Gary is so patient.
>
>I'm just not a fan of beans. Nothing wrong with liking them, and I often
>wish I did.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

What about a bean soup... lots of people who claim to not like beans
love a good home made navy bean soup. I make a good lima bean soup
with ham hocks and greens.
We also love refried black beans with pork chops and tortillas.
Canned bean soups are disappointing as are canned pork and beans.

In article >, penmart01
@aol.com Sheldon says...
> my wife agrees, she doesn't
> like her clothing to smell of fish either,
>
She's pretty picky for a Mexican whore.

https://imgur.com/a/BTxhlbh LOL

On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 2:09:49 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> On Mon, 6 May 2019 09:50:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 12:46:16 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> >> On 5/6/2019 12:40 PM, wrote:
> >> > On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 10:00:48 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> jmcquown wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> A pot of red beans & rice or black beans &
> >> >>> rice lasts several days here.
> >> >>
> >> >> Those meals would last me several years until I finally tossed
> >> >> them. lol
> >> >>
> >> > Why?
> >> >
> >> He doesn't like it so that's a reason to scoff.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> >Not that I'd make red beans and rice, but they'd last me about 30 seconds
> >before I threw them out. I don't know why Gary is so patient.
> >
> >I'm just not a fan of beans. Nothing wrong with liking them, and I often
> >wish I did.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> What about a bean soup... lots of people who claim to not like beans
> love a good home made navy bean soup. I make a good lima bean soup
> with ham hocks and greens.
> We also love refried black beans with pork chops and tortillas.
> Canned bean soups are disappointing as are canned pork and beans.

Nope. The smell of bean soup cooking is enough to drive
me out of the house.

Plus, they're worst when they're more cooked. Mealy.

I like lentils, though.

I'll eat a forkful of beans now and then, and one of my
favorite combination plates at the Tibetan restaurant
usually comes with a little serving of them, but that's
about as far as I'll go.

Cindy Hamilton

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/6/2019 1:18 PM, wrote:
>> On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 12:09:01 PM UTC-5, A Moose in Love wrote:
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 12:51:00 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Not that I'd make red beans and rice, but they'd last me about 30
>>>> seconds
>>>> before I threw them out. I don't know why Gary is so patient.
>>>>
>>>> I'm just not a fan of beans. Nothing wrong with liking them, and I
>>>> often
>>>> wish I did.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> i like beans. never had red beans and rice. shouldn't there be some
>>> smoked ham in there?
> <piggybacking>
>
> IMHO, no. Andouille sausage. Never had red beans and rice? Try it and
> report back. You may or may not like it.
>
> Cindy doesn't have to like it, either. For some reason I don't have the
> same gastric issues from eating beans as many people seem to report. Yay!

I don't like the seasonings.

On 5/6/2019 6:21 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/6/2019 1:18 PM, wrote:
>>> On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 12:09:01 PM UTC-5, A Moose in Love wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 12:51:00 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Not that I'd make red beans and rice, but they'd last me about 30
>>>>> seconds
>>>>> before I threw them out.Â* I don't know why Gary is so patient.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm just not a fan of beans.Â* Nothing wrong with liking them, and I
>>>>> often
>>>>> wish I did.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>> i like beans.Â* never had red beans and rice.Â* shouldn't there be
>>>> some smoked ham in there?
>> <piggybacking>
>>
>> IMHO, no.Â* Andouille sausage.Â* Never had red beans and rice?Â* Try it
>> and report back.Â* You may or may not like it.
>>
>> Cindy doesn't have to like it, either.Â* For some reason I don't have
>> the same gastric issues from eating beans as many people seem to
>> report.Â* Yay!
>
> I don't like the seasonings.

No surprise there.

Jill

On 5/6/2019 1:13 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 11:46:16 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 5/6/2019 12:40 PM, wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 10:00:48 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>>>>
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A pot of red beans & rice or black beans &
>>>>> rice lasts several days here.
>>>>
>>>> Those meals would last me several years until I finally tossed
>>>> them. lol
>>>>
>>> Why?
>>>
>> He doesn't like it so that's a reason to scoff.
>>
>> Jill
>>
> Ooooooh.
>
Fact is, I don't eat a lot of rice. I don't consider it a staple and
don't bother to eat it even once a month. I do, however, like
occasional red or black beans with rice with some nice spicy sausage
added to the mixture.

Jill

On Mon, 6 May 2019 "Julie Bove" wrote:
>"jmcquown" wrote:
>> On 5/6/2019 itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>>> On Monday, May 6, 2019 A Moose in Love wrote:
>>>> On Monday, May 6, 2019 Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Not that I'd make red beans and rice, but they'd last me about 30
>>>>> seconds before I threw them out. I don't know why Gary is so patient.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm just not a fan of beans. Nothing wrong with liking them, and I
>>>>> often wish I did.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>> i like beans. never had red beans and rice. shouldn't there be some
>>>> smoked ham in there?
>> <piggybacking>
>>
>> Never had red beans and rice? Try it and
>> report back. You may or may not like it.
>>
>> Cindy doesn't have to like it, either. For some reason I don't have the
>> same gastric issues from eating beans as many people seem to report. Yay!
>
> I don't like the seasonings.

Well, DUH! Use seasonings that you do like, or omit seasoning,

" wrote:
>
> On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 10:00:48 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> >
> > jmcquown wrote:
> > >
> > > A pot of red beans & rice or black beans &
> > > rice lasts several days here.
> >
> > Those meals would last me several years until I finally tossed
> > them. lol
> >
> Why?

Just different tastes, that's all. I consider that last ditch
something to eat and not anything to look forward to. Adding that
sausage doesn't help either, imo.

Don't be offended by my comment. We can't all love McDonald's
plain hamburgers either.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Not that I'd make red beans and rice, but they'd last me about 30 seconds
> before I threw them out. I don't know why Gary is so patient.

heh heh
>
> I'm just not a fan of beans. Nothing wrong with liking them, and I often
> wish I did.

I like to add some red beans (kidney) to chili along with meat
but not too many and half of those will be mashed.

As far as rice, for some reason I love it with chinese food and
with stuffed peppers. Any other rice recipe is a fail for my
taste buddies. They have feelings too so I try to accomodate.

Clueless Sheldar in NY wrote:
> Actually Gary has to reply to every thread even if negative while
> adding nothing... he's competing with JB. If he doesn't like rice
> and beans why does he prepare them, only to trash them?

I don't like or make red beans and rice. Only once, never again.

> I don't do seafood at home and my wife agrees, she doesn't
> like her clothing to smell of fish either,

Only seafood gone bad smells like fish.

On Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at 8:29:39 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Clueless Sheldar in NY wrote:
> > Actually Gary has to reply to every thread even if negative while
> > adding nothing... he's competing with JB. If he doesn't like rice
> > and beans why does he prepare them, only to trash them?
>
> I don't like or make red beans and rice. Only once, never again.
>
> > I don't do seafood at home and my wife agrees, she doesn't
> > like her clothing to smell of fish either,
>
> Only seafood gone bad smells like fish.

What does seafood not gone bad smell like? Roses?

Of course seafood smells like fish. When I'm done
grilling salmon my clothing smells like grilled salmon.

Cindy Hamilton

On 5/7/2019 8:20 AM, wrote:
> On Mon, 6 May 2019 "Julie Bove" wrote:
>> "jmcquown" wrote:
>>> On 5/6/2019 itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>>>> On Monday, May 6, 2019 A Moose in Love wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, May 6, 2019 Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not that I'd make red beans and rice, but they'd last me about 30
>>>>>> seconds before I threw them out. I don't know why Gary is so patient.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm just not a fan of beans. Nothing wrong with liking them, and I
>>>>>> often wish I did.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>>> i like beans. never had red beans and rice. shouldn't there be some
>>>>> smoked ham in there?
>>> <piggybacking>
>>>
>>> Never had red beans and rice? Try it and
>>> report back. You may or may not like it.
>>>
>>> Cindy doesn't have to like it, either. For some reason I don't have the
>>> same gastric issues from eating beans as many people seem to report. Yay!
>>
>> I don't like the seasonings.
>
> Well, DUH! Use seasonings that you do like, or omit seasoning,
>
If her gardener doesn't like it (according to her it must be brown
rice!) she won't like it, either. She'd rather have bland, boring rice
and bland, boring beans.

Jill

Jill

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> > Only seafood gone bad smells like fish.
>
> What does seafood not gone bad smell like? Roses?
>
> Of course seafood smells like fish. When I'm done
> grilling salmon my clothing smells like grilled salmon.

Old stuff then, Cindy. Fresh seafood of any kind has no smell at
all. Certainly won't make your clothes smell. That's silly. If
you smell fish, you are using too long dead seafood. Not kidding.

Fresh is the answer. You kill a live anything then immediately
cook and no smell...ever.

On Tue, 07 May 2019 08:29:33 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Clueless Sheldar in NY wrote:
>> Actually Gary has to reply to every thread even if negative while
>> adding nothing... he's competing with JB. If he doesn't like rice
>> and beans why does he prepare them, only to trash them?
>
>I don't like or make red beans and rice. Only once, never again.
>
>> I don't do seafood at home and my wife agrees, she doesn't
>> like her clothing to smell of fish either,
>
>Only seafood gone bad smells like fish.

I, not saying fish smells bad, we just don't want our house and
everything in it to smell of fish cooking.... have you never boiled
shrimp, it schtinks. But then you live alone and don't have much
company if any. and on the job the smell of paint trumps all other
smells... I don't think painters have any sense of smell or taste, is
why you love the aroma of McDs... to me from a block away that's how I
define stench/skunk. I'll drive out of my way not to pass downwind of
a McDs.

On Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at 11:29:11 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > Gary wrote:
> > > Only seafood gone bad smells like fish.
> >
> > What does seafood not gone bad smell like? Roses?
> >
> > Of course seafood smells like fish. When I'm done
> > grilling salmon my clothing smells like grilled salmon.
>
> Old stuff then, Cindy. Fresh seafood of any kind has no smell at
> all. Certainly won't make your clothes smell. That's silly. If
> you smell fish, you are using too long dead seafood. Not kidding.
>
> Fresh is the answer. You kill a live anything then immediately
> cook and no smell...ever.

Not going to happen here, hundreds of miles from the ocean.
I hate freshwater fish.

Everything smells of what it is when you cook it. Even skinless,
boneless chicken breast.

Are you sure the paint fumes haven't destroyed your olfactory nerve?

Cindy Hamilton

On Tue, 7 May 2019 09:46:51 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at 11:29:11 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>
>> Old stuff then, Cindy. Fresh seafood of any kind has no smell at
>> all. Certainly won't make your clothes smell. That's silly. If
>> you smell fish, you are using too long dead seafood. Not kidding.
>>
>> Fresh is the answer. You kill a live anything then immediately
>> cook and no smell...ever.
>
>Not going to happen here, hundreds of miles from the ocean.
>I hate freshwater fish.
>
>Everything smells of what it is when you cook it. Even skinless,
>boneless chicken breast.
>
>Are you sure the paint fumes haven't destroyed your olfactory nerve?

They've destroyed a lot more than that. Gary's brain is in a constant
zombiesque state.

> wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 6 May 2019 "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>"jmcquown" wrote:
>>> On 5/6/2019 itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>>>> On Monday, May 6, 2019 A Moose in Love wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, May 6, 2019 Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not that I'd make red beans and rice, but they'd last me about 30
>>>>>> seconds before I threw them out. I don't know why Gary is so
>>>>>> patient.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm just not a fan of beans. Nothing wrong with liking them, and I
>>>>>> often wish I did.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>>> i like beans. never had red beans and rice. shouldn't there be some
>>>>> smoked ham in there?
>>> <piggybacking>
>>>
>>> Never had red beans and rice? Try it and
>>> report back. You may or may not like it.
>>>
>>> Cindy doesn't have to like it, either. For some reason I don't have the
>>> same gastric issues from eating beans as many people seem to report.
>>> Yay!
>>
>> I don't like the seasonings.
>
> Well, DUH! Use seasonings that you do like, or omit seasoning,

Then it's not called red beans and rice!!!

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/7/2019 8:20 AM, wrote:
>> On Mon, 6 May 2019 "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>> "jmcquown" wrote:
>>>> On 5/6/2019 itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, May 6, 2019 A Moose in Love wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, May 6, 2019 Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not that I'd make red beans and rice, but they'd last me about 30
>>>>>>> seconds before I threw them out. I don't know why Gary is so
>>>>>>> patient.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm just not a fan of beans. Nothing wrong with liking them, and I
>>>>>>> often wish I did.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i like beans. never had red beans and rice. shouldn't there be some
>>>>>> smoked ham in there?
>>>> <piggybacking>
>>>>
>>>> Never had red beans and rice? Try it and
>>>> report back. You may or may not like it.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy doesn't have to like it, either. For some reason I don't have
>>>> the
>>>> same gastric issues from eating beans as many people seem to report.
>>>> Yay!
>>>
>>> I don't like the seasonings.
>>
>> Well, DUH! Use seasonings that you do like, or omit seasoning,
>>
> If her gardener doesn't like it (according to her it must be brown rice!)
> she won't like it, either. She'd rather have bland, boring rice and
> bland, boring beans.

I don't know if he likes it or not. I never asked. Last rice I cooked was
Mexican. That's not boring. Beans are never boring.

wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> >Only seafood gone bad smells like fish.
>
> I, not saying fish smells bad, we just don't want our house and
> everything in it to smell of fish cooking.... have you never boiled
> shrimp, it schtinks.

Obviously, anything cooked will smell. Fresh seafood not so bad
to me but then I open my windows occasionally on nice days. My
"fish smell" point is that raw seafood that is fresh won't smell
like fish.

You never open windows. Sad. Even your nifty air filter doesn't
substitute for real fresh air. Paranoid about pollen, open your
windows on a windy cold winter day then, flush out all the stale
air that you've been rebreathing for the last 20 years.

Cooking anything smells like the food and the seasoning. Good
smells to me. Only lingering smells that I have had in my place
is that onions cooking might last a day or so, not a bad smell
though.

> I don't think painters have any sense of smell or taste, is
> why you love the aroma of McDs... to me from a block away that's how I
> define stench/skunk. I'll drive out of my way not to pass downwind of
> a McDs.

You oddball, lol. By doing that, you are another abuser of the
earth's fossil fuel.
Your neighbors probably take a different route home once they get
a whiff of "another pot roast." lol

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Not going to happen here, hundreds of miles from the ocean.
> I hate freshwater fish.

I'm not a fan of freshwater fish either although I tried tilapia
once and was happy enough after I seasoned it.

I've lived by tidal water almost all my life so I'm so accustomed
to salt water. Swimming in a fresh water lake is very disturbing
to me. It just seems wrong. lol Seriously too, it kind of creeps
me out.

> Everything smells of what it is when you cook it. Even skinless,
> boneless chicken breast.

Yes, everything does take on a smell when cooking and I took it
too far. You were just saying how even your clothes smelled of
fish. My point is that any raw seafood that smells like fish is
going bad. At that time, you can overcook it and season it all to
hell to kill the bacteria, or just toss it. If I smell fishy, I
toss without hesitation.

Fresh seafood should be killed and eaten immediately or iced down
immediately. Any grocery store seafood has been previously
frozen. Frozen is good too.

On 2019-05-08 9:27 a.m., Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> Not going to happen here, hundreds of miles from the ocean.
>> I hate freshwater fish.
>
> I'm not a fan of freshwater fish either although I tried tilapia
> once and was happy enough after I seasoned it.

Freshwater fish is better if it is from cold water. We get pickeral and
perch from Lake Erie and it is delicious. We also get a lot of farmed
rainbow trout. I really like it.



>
> I've lived by tidal water almost all my life so I'm so accustomed
> to salt water. Swimming in a fresh water lake is very disturbing
> to me. It just seems wrong. lol Seriously too, it kind of creeps
> me out.

Swimming in the ocean creeps me out.... sharks, jelly fish....


> Fresh seafood should be killed and eaten immediately or iced down
> immediately. Any grocery store seafood has been previously
> frozen. Frozen is good too.

Lobster has to be the worst. It is kept alive or killed and cooked right
away because the flesh starts to rot very soon after they die.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> > Fresh seafood should be killed and eaten immediately or iced down
> > immediately. Any grocery store seafood has been previously
> > frozen. Frozen is good too.
>
> Lobster has to be the worst. It is kept alive or killed and cooked right
> away because the flesh starts to rot very soon after they die.

That's actually the case with any seafood, not just lobsters.
Most of my seafood is killed (by me) right before I cook it.

Shrimp is the exception. I buy that in 2lb bags frozen from
somewhere in the world. Again...immediately frozen is good and no
problem.

On Wednesday, May 8, 2019 at 9:27:06 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:

> Yes, everything does take on a smell when cooking and I took it
> too far. You were just saying how even your clothes smelled of
> fish.

In point of fact, what my clothes smell of is salmon fat hitting
the flame tamer bars on my grill. I don't want that sort of
smell permeating my house.

Don't bother to suggest opening a window. There are only about
eight weeks a year when it is comfortable enough to open the
windows. We'll occasionally open for half an hour if we get
a winter's day that's sunny and above 30. Once the summer
heat and humidity set in, fuhgettaboutit.

> My point is that any raw seafood that smells like fish is
> going bad.

Of course. Nobody has objected to having raw, fresh fish in their
house. They object to the smell of it being cooked. I very
rarely cook fish indoors. Scampi or boiled shrimp is about the
extent of it. I'd rather have grilled fish (or shrimp) for
the most part.

> Fresh seafood should be killed and eaten immediately or iced down
> immediately. Any grocery store seafood has been previously
> frozen. Frozen is good too.

I generally buy frozen seafood and defrost it myself. It's the
only way to know how long it has been defrosted.

Cindy Hamilton

Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> Not going to happen here, hundreds of miles from the ocean.
>> I hate freshwater fish.
>
> I'm not a fan of freshwater fish either although I tried tilapia
> once and was happy enough after I seasoned it.
>
> I've lived by tidal water almost all my life so I'm so accustomed
> to salt water. Swimming in a fresh water lake is very disturbing
> to me. It just seems wrong. lol Seriously too, it kind of creeps
> me out.
>
>> Everything smells of what it is when you cook it. Even skinless,
>> boneless chicken breast.
>
> Yes, everything does take on a smell when cooking and I took it
> too far. You were just saying how even your clothes smelled of
> fish. My point is that any raw seafood that smells like fish is
> going bad. At that time, you can overcook it and season it all to
> hell to kill the bacteria, or just toss it. If I smell fishy, I
> toss without hesitation.
>
> Fresh seafood should be killed and eaten immediately or iced down
> immediately. Any grocery store seafood has been previously
> frozen. Frozen is good too.

as long as it is kept well frozen the whole way
through. sadly a lot of it is subjected to bad
handling and is rank to me.

the other point about smells is that once you
stop cooking meats/seafoods/fish and some oils
you will develop a nose that can detect rancid
grease and dead animal flesh smells that you would
not believe. i was mostly vegetarian for a few
years and it was very tough to go back to cooking
meat.

we are similar now here, we do eat meat at times
but it isn't often we cook it here at home. when
i do i have to wash the pan two or three times to
remove the rancid smell that comes from it. still
i do like a good cheese burger once in a while
(about once every month or two) and i cook some
other meat based/flavored dishes every once in a
while too. just not often enough to reacclimate
my nose to the stenches...


songbird

On Wed, 08 May 2019 09:26:02 -0400, Gary > wrote:

wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>> >Only seafood gone bad smells like fish.
>>
>> I, not saying fish smells bad, we just don't want our house and
>> everything in it to smell of fish cooking.... have you never boiled
>> shrimp, it schtinks.
>
>Obviously, anything cooked will smell. Fresh seafood not so bad
>to me but then I open my windows occasionally on nice days. My
>"fish smell" point is that raw seafood that is fresh won't smell
>like fish.
>
>You never open windows. Sad. Even your nifty air filter doesn't
>substitute for real fresh air. Paranoid about pollen, open your
>windows on a windy cold winter day then, flush out all the stale
>air that you've been rebreathing for the last 20 years.
>
>Cooking anything smells like the food and the seasoning. Good
>smells to me. Only lingering smells that I have had in my place
>is that onions cooking might last a day or so, not a bad smell
>though.
>
>> I don't think painters have any sense of smell or taste, is
>> why you love the aroma of McDs... to me from a block away that's how I
>> define stench/skunk. I'll drive out of my way not to pass downwind of
>> a McDs.
>
>You oddball, lol. By doing that, you are another abuser of the
>earth's fossil fuel.
>Your neighbors probably take a different route home once they get
>a whiff of "another pot roast." lol

Anyone who spends time in close proximity with others doesn't want to
reek of horrid cooking odors... you obviously spend little to no time
with others and on your job all anyone can smell is paint fumes...
instead of deodorant Gary paints his arm pits with Sherwin Williams...
on a hot day Gary sprays his crotch with turp. hehe

On Wed, 08 May 2019 09:27:05 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> Not going to happen here, hundreds of miles from the ocean.
>> I hate freshwater fish.
>
>I'm not a fan of freshwater fish either although I tried tilapia
>once and was happy enough after I seasoned it.
>
>I've lived by tidal water almost all my life so I'm so accustomed
>to salt water. Swimming in a fresh water lake is very disturbing
>to me. It just seems wrong. lol Seriously too, it kind of creeps
>me out.
>
>> Everything smells of what it is when you cook it. Even skinless,
>> boneless chicken breast.
>
>Yes, everything does take on a smell when cooking and I took it
>too far. You were just saying how even your clothes smelled of
>fish. My point is that any raw seafood that smells like fish is
>going bad. At that time, you can overcook it and season it all to
>hell to kill the bacteria, or just toss it. If I smell fishy, I
>toss without hesitation.
>
>Fresh seafood should be killed and eaten immediately or iced down
>immediately. Any grocery store seafood has been previously
>frozen. Frozen is good too.

Doesn't matter, the freshest fish cooking smells... in fact all food
cooking smells but a beef steak frying smells fine to me, not a slab
of fresh salmon. There's a good reason restaurant kitchens have
closed doors and powerful exhaust fans. Personally I don't want to
have my morning coffee while bacon is frying. I'd rather clean a
cat's litter pan than smell bacon frying.

Fresh lake perch, walleye and even Northern (Pike) are pretty hard to beat, taste-wise.
Have you ever tried any of those?

N.

On Wed, 8 May 2019 13:53:43 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>Fresh lake perch, walleye and even Northern (Pike) are pretty hard to beat, taste-wise.
>Have you ever tried any of those?

People derive their identity from what they like and don't like to
eat. That's why they always tell us in RFC. "Ha, never in my house!"
"Ha, I'll never eat that!" "Ha, you can have my portion!" "Ha, I'll
only eat prawns when they've been caught on a Wednesday morning doing
the backstroke!" Asking them to change their mind is asking them to
lose their sense of identity.

On Wednesday, May 8, 2019 at 4:53:47 PM UTC-4, Nancy2 wrote:
> Fresh lake perch, walleye and even Northern (Pike) are pretty hard to beat, taste-wise.
> Have you ever tried any of those?
>
> N.

Yes. Still hate freshwater fish. It all tastes like mud.

I live in Michigan. There's a ton of sport fishing here, and
I've had ample opportunity to develop a dislike for freshwater
fish.

Cindy Hamilton