On 4/9/2019 9:01 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 8:29:56 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 5:09:27 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Monday, April 8, 2019 at 7:31:45 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>> My investments are UP a little! :-)
>>>>
>>>> Good to know!
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Investment Appreciator!
>>>
>>> We're very proud of you.
>>>
>>> The Dow is up about 13% YTD. The S&P 500 is up about 14%. NASDAQ is
>>> up about 20%.
>>>
>>> If yours are up "a little", you are underperforming.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> LONG TERM $$ PERFORMANCE!!
>
> Then why are you talking about your monthly report?
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
The question is, why is he bothering to talk about it at all? I don't
know about you but I don't care a whit about his finances.

Jill

On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 11:00:07 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/9/2019 9:01 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 8:29:56 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 5:09:27 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>> On Monday, April 8, 2019 at 7:31:45 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> >>>> My investments are UP a little! :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Good to know!
> >>>>
> >>>> John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Investment Appreciator!
> >>>
> >>> We're very proud of you.
> >>>
> >>> The Dow is up about 13% YTD. The S&P 500 is up about 14%. NASDAQ is
> >>> up about 20%.
> >>>
> >>> If yours are up "a little", you are underperforming.
> >>>
> >>> Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >> LONG TERM $$ PERFORMANCE!!
> >
> > Then why are you talking about your monthly report?
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> The question is, why is he bothering to talk about it at all? I don't
> know about you but I don't care a whit about his finances.
>
> Jill

Exhibitionism.

Cindy Hamilton

On 4/11/2019 12:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 11:00:07 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 4/9/2019 9:01 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 8:29:56 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 5:09:27 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, April 8, 2019 at 7:31:45 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>>> My investments are UP a little! :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good to know!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Investment Appreciator!
>>>>>
>>>>> We're very proud of you.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Dow is up about 13% YTD. The S&P 500 is up about 14%. NASDAQ is
>>>>> up about 20%.
>>>>>
>>>>> If yours are up "a little", you are underperforming.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>> LONG TERM $$ PERFORMANCE!!
>>>
>>> Then why are you talking about your monthly report?
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> The question is, why is he bothering to talk about it at all? I don't
>> know about you but I don't care a whit about his finances.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Exhibitionism.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

I'm thinking everyone here would be better off if we knew each other
better and alleviate the animosity we sometimes see. . Everyone will
post their monthly financial report on the 10th of the month. Sub
categories would be how many gallons of gas we burned too.

jmcquown wrote:
> The question is, why is he bothering to talk about it at all? I don't
> know about you but I don't care a whit about his finances.

John is family here. Accept him.

On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 2:08:41 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> > The question is, why is he bothering to talk about it at all? I don't
> > know about you but I don't care a whit about his finances.
>
> John is family here. Accept him.

Some members of my family fight like cats in a sack.

That's why I have nothing to do with 90% of my family.

Cindy Hamilton

On 4/11/2019 2:08 PM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> The question is, why is he bothering to talk about it at all? I don't
>> know about you but I don't care a whit about his finances.
>
> John is family here. Accept him.
>
Family my ass.

OB Food: I'm going to make salisbury steaks (from scratch) using ground
chuck patties, hand formed, seasoned with salt & pepper and cooked in a
skillet on both sides with minced onions and garlic until the veggies
are tender and translucent. Drain off most of the fat. Add some beef
broth or stock and if necessary a bit of water. A couple of splashes of
Worcestershire sauce is crucial. Cover and let it simmer on low heat
until the the liquid cooks down. Make a cornstarch slurry to thicken
the gravy.

I'll serve this mashed potatoes and <gasp> *steamed* short cut green
beans. Dinner will be delicious, I can assure you.

Jill

On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 12:53:12 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> I'm thinking everyone here would be better off if we knew each other
> better and alleviate the animosity we sometimes see. . Everyone will
> post their monthly financial report on the 10th of the month. Sub
> categories would be how many gallons of gas we burned too.
>
Well, John is already teetering on the brink so he will shit a brick when I
tell him my car requires high test gasoline.

On 4/11/2019 3:14 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 2:08:41 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> The question is, why is he bothering to talk about it at all? I don't
>>> know about you but I don't care a whit about his finances.
>>
>> John is family here. Accept him.
>
> Some members of my family fight like cats in a sack.
>
> That's why I have nothing to do with 90% of my family.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
LOL too true! Sorry, but Kuthe is not a long lost relative. He's a nut.

Jill

On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 13:29:20 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 12:53:12 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> I'm thinking everyone here would be better off if we knew each other
>> better and alleviate the animosity we sometimes see. . Everyone will
>> post their monthly financial report on the 10th of the month. Sub
>> categories would be how many gallons of gas we burned too.
>>
>Well, John is already teetering on the brink so he will shit a brick when I
>tell him my car requires high test gasoline.

Mine too, that is ever since the lower grades contain ethonol...
ethonol mkes engines run rougher and gives poorer MPG.

On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 11:36:58 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
>
> Mine too, that is ever since the lower grades contain ethonol...
> ethonol mkes engines run rougher and gives poorer MPG.

My guess is that the high octane gas also contain ethanol. It does lower your fuel mileage but the ethanol also suppressed engine knock which allowed me to use one grade lower of gasoline. I didn't notice my engines running rougher. Perhaps you had a potato stuck up your tailpipe.

On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 4:51:58 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
> On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 11:36:58 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> >
> > Mine too, that is ever since the lower grades contain ethonol...
> > ethonol mkes engines run rougher and gives poorer MPG.
>
> My guess is that the high octane gas also contain ethanol. It does lower your fuel mileage but the ethanol also suppressed engine knock which allowed me to use one grade lower of gasoline. I didn't notice my engines running rougher. Perhaps you had a potato stuck up your tailpipe.
>
Yes, the higher octane does contain ethanol. My car requires the high octane
juice because of compression and to reduce engine knock and damage.

On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:56:24 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 4:51:58 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 11:36:58 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
>> >
>> > Mine too, that is ever since the lower grades contain ethonol...
>> > ethonol mkes engines run rougher and gives poorer MPG.
>>
>> My guess is that the high octane gas also contain ethanol. It does lower your fuel mileage but the ethanol also suppressed engine knock which allowed me to use one grade lower of gasoline. I didn't notice my engines running rougher. Perhaps you had a potato stuck up your tailpipe.
>>
>Yes, the higher octane does contain ethanol.

Not where I live... says so on the pump... my vehical runs smoother
and I get 3 more miles per gallon with premium. Premium costs about
40¢ more a gallon but I think it's worth it, especially for a
smoother running engine. The owner's manual for my vehical says to
use regular but my vehical is a 1990, there was no ethanol back then.
My mechanic clued me in, he said no gas engine should be run with
ethanol, not even a lawnmower. He was right, I now use premium in my
push mower and it runs much better. I use premium in my 2 cycle
engines too and they run better and are much easier to start. Ethonal
is most definitely a gimmick that will cost you major maintenance
costs and having to replace prematurely,

On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 12:56:27 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 4:51:58 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 11:36:58 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> > >
> > > Mine too, that is ever since the lower grades contain ethonol...
> > > ethonol mkes engines run rougher and gives poorer MPG.
> >
> > My guess is that the high octane gas also contain ethanol. It does lower your fuel mileage but the ethanol also suppressed engine knock which allowed me to use one grade lower of gasoline. I didn't notice my engines running rougher. Perhaps you had a potato stuck up your tailpipe.
> >
> Yes, the higher octane does contain ethanol. My car requires the high octane
> juice because of compression and to reduce engine knock and damage.

I had a VW that required that. They put their ubiquitous 2.0L turbo engines in most of their cars but I'm glad to be rid of that troublesome mill.

On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:36:53 -0400, wrote:

>On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:56:24 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 4:51:58 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>Yes, the higher octane does contain ethanol.
>
>Not where I live... says so on the pump...

There's E10, E15, and E85 as far as I know.

>my vehical runs smoother
>and I get 3 more miles per gallon with premium. Premium costs about
>40¢ more a gallon but I think it's worth it, especially for a
>smoother running engine. The owner's manual for my vehical says to
>use regular but my vehical is a 1990, there was no ethanol back then.

I agree with using premium, it's all I use in all my gas engines.
Everything runs better, with more power and slightly better economy.


>My mechanic clued me in, he said no gas engine should be run with
>ethanol, not even a lawnmower.

Your mechanic is either doesn't have a clue, or your recollection of
what he said to you isn't quite right. Some gas engines run just fine
on ethanol without any issues. A lot don't. In fact E85 has an octane
of 108, which is why many street racers use E85.

>He was right, I now use premium in my
>push mower and it runs much better. I use premium in my 2 cycle
>engines too and they run better and are much easier to start. Ethonal
>is most definitely a gimmick that will cost you major maintenance
>costs and having to replace prematurely,

It's not a 'gimmick', some people just don't understand it.

On 4/12/2019 12:48 AM, Je�us wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:36:53 -0400, wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:56:24 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 4:51:58 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>
>>> Yes, the higher octane does contain ethanol.
>>
>> Not where I live... says so on the pump...
>
> There's E10, E15, and E85 as far as I know.

There are stations that have no ethanol available. One near me is 40
cents a gallon more for it.


>
> I agree with using premium, it's all I use in all my gas engines.
> Everything runs better, with more power and slightly better economy.
>

For 90% of the cars designed for 87 octane it is a waste. Tried it in
mine, two tanks, no difference.


>
>> My mechanic clued me in, he said no gas engine should be run with
>> ethanol, not even a lawnmower.
>
> Your mechanic is either doesn't have a clue, or your recollection of
> what he said to you isn't quite right. Some gas engines run just fine
> on ethanol without any issues. A lot don't. In fact E85 has an octane
> of 108, which is why many street racers use E85.

Some do, but older small engines were not designed and had problems from
the ethanol and ruined carburetors.

>
> It's not a 'gimmick', some people just don't understand it.
>
True

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 4/11/2019 12:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 11:00:07 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> > > On 4/9/2019 9:01 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 8:29:56 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 5:09:27 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, April 8, 2019 at 7:31:45 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > My investments are UP a little! :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Good to know!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Investment Appreciator!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We're very proud of you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Dow is up about 13% YTD. The S&P 500 is up about 14%.
> > > > > > NASDAQ is up about 20%.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If yours are up "a little", you are underperforming.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > > >
> > > > > LONG TERM $$ PERFORMANCE!!
> > > >
> > > > Then why are you talking about your monthly report?
> > > >
> > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > >
> > > The question is, why is he bothering to talk about it at all? I
> > > don't know about you but I don't care a whit about his finances.
> > >
> > > Jill
> >
> > Exhibitionism.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
>
> I'm thinking everyone here would be better off if we knew each other
> better and alleviate the animosity we sometimes see. . Everyone
> will post their monthly financial report on the 10th of the month.
> Sub categories would be how many gallons of gas we burned too.

LOL!

We co-exist and income is not a related value to the posts made. On
gas, I gas up every 2-3 weeks and am city driving at 26MPG.

On Friday, April 12, 2019 at 3:41:57 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > On 4/11/2019 12:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 11:00:07 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> > > > On 4/9/2019 9:01 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 8:29:56 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 5:09:27 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, April 8, 2019 at 7:31:45 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > My investments are UP a little! :-)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Good to know!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Investment Appreciator!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We're very proud of you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Dow is up about 13% YTD. The S&P 500 is up about 14%.
> > > > > > > NASDAQ is up about 20%.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If yours are up "a little", you are underperforming.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > >
> > > > > > LONG TERM $$ PERFORMANCE!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Then why are you talking about your monthly report?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > > >
> > > > The question is, why is he bothering to talk about it at all? I
> > > > don't know about you but I don't care a whit about his finances.
> > > >
> > > > Jill
> > >
> > > Exhibitionism.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> > >
> >
> > I'm thinking everyone here would be better off if we knew each other
> > better and alleviate the animosity we sometimes see. . Everyone
> > will post their monthly financial report on the 10th of the month.
> > Sub categories would be how many gallons of gas we burned too.
>
> LOL!
>
> We co-exist and income is not a related value to the posts made. On
> gas, I gas up every 2-3 weeks and am city driving at 26MPG.

cshenk, that is almost as little as I use....I gas up once about every two months. I get about 22 mpg in town, but I just never go anywhere...I drive about 2000 miles a year. The farthest I have gone in one trip in the past 3 years is 35 miles, one way. LOL.

N.

Nancy2 wrote:
>
> cshenk, that is almost as little as I use....I gas up once about every two months. I get about 22 mpg in town, but I just never go anywhere...I drive about 2000 miles a year. The farthest I have gone in one trip in the past 3 years is 35 miles, one way. LOL.

Just curious...how did you drive 35 miles one way?
Did you never go home? Did you move that far one way?

Anyway, I'll take your 2000 per year and raise you my
annual mileage.

Try 150 miles in the last 6 months. I should probably
get rid of this thing. Cost per mile is a joke but
convenience of having a vehicle on hand is priceless.

On Saturday, April 13, 2019 at 9:48:36 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
> >
> > cshenk, that is almost as little as I use....I gas up once about every two months. I get about 22 mpg in town, but I just never go anywhere...I drive about 2000 miles a year. The farthest I have gone in one trip in the past 3 years is 35 miles, one way. LOL.
>
> Just curious...how did you drive 35 miles one way?
> Did you never go home? Did you move that far one way?
>
> Anyway, I'll take your 2000 per year and raise you my
> annual mileage.
>
> Try 150 miles in the last 6 months. I should probably
> get rid of this thing. Cost per mile is a joke but
> convenience of having a vehicle on hand is priceless.

You should go 100% electric and either get a used Nissan Leaf (80 miles a charge in my experience) or Tesla Model 3 which is speced at 300 miles a charge!

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and NON Burner Of Petroleum!

John Kuthe wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> > Try 150 miles in the last 6 months. I should probably
> > get rid of this thing. Cost per mile is a joke but
> > convenience of having a vehicle on hand is priceless.
>
> You should go 100% electric and either get a used Nissan Leaf (80 miles a charge in my experience) or Tesla Model 3 which is speced at 300 miles a charge!

I've got a nice Trek bike. Even cheaper than your electric car
and better for my health. All of my shopping is within a mile or
two. Anytime weather is bad, I can wait.

On Saturday, April 13, 2019 at 10:30:43 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> John Kuthe wrote:
> >
> > Gary wrote:
> > > Try 150 miles in the last 6 months. I should probably
> > > get rid of this thing. Cost per mile is a joke but
> > > convenience of having a vehicle on hand is priceless.
> >
> > You should go 100% electric and either get a used Nissan Leaf (80 miles a charge in my experience) or Tesla Model 3 which is speced at 300 miles a charge!
>
> I've got a nice Trek bike. Even cheaper than your electric car
> and better for my health. All of my shopping is within a mile or
> two. Anytime weather is bad, I can wait.

Yep! I'll give ya that!! :-)

I used to bicycle, a LOT! I used to live an easy flat bicycle ride to Forest Park both from the CWE and Skinker/Debaliviere, super easy! Door to door from Westminster in the CWE was 10.25 miles, cause I had a bike computer so I knew.

John Kuthe, Climate Activist and Former Bicyclist.

On 4/13/2019 12:22 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> On Friday, April 12, 2019 at 3:41:57 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/11/2019 12:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 11:00:07 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 4/9/2019 9:01 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 8:29:56 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 5:09:27 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 8, 2019 at 7:31:45 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> My investments are UP a little! :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good to know!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Investment Appreciator!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We're very proud of you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Dow is up about 13% YTD. The S&P 500 is up about 14%.
>>>>>>>> NASDAQ is up about 20%.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If yours are up "a little", you are underperforming.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LONG TERM $$ PERFORMANCE!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then why are you talking about your monthly report?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>
>>>>> The question is, why is he bothering to talk about it at all? I
>>>>> don't know about you but I don't care a whit about his finances.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Exhibitionism.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm thinking everyone here would be better off if we knew each other
>>> better and alleviate the animosity we sometimes see. . Everyone
>>> will post their monthly financial report on the 10th of the month.
>>> Sub categories would be how many gallons of gas we burned too.
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>> We co-exist and income is not a related value to the posts made. On
>> gas, I gas up every 2-3 weeks and am city driving at 26MPG.
>
> cshenk, that is almost as little as I use....I gas up once about every two months. I get about 22 mpg in town, but I just never go anywhere...I drive about 2000 miles a year. The farthest I have gone in one trip in the past 3 years is 35 miles, one way. LOL.
>
> N.
>
Thank you, Nancy2, for quoting.

Jill

On 4/13/2019 10:47 AM, Gary wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>> cshenk, that is almost as little as I use....I gas up once about every two months. I get about 22 mpg in town, but I just never go anywhere...I drive about 2000 miles a year. The farthest I have gone in one trip in the past 3 years is 35 miles, one way. LOL.
>
> Just curious...how did you drive 35 miles one way?

Don't be dense. She made a trip, 35 miles in one direction. Double it
for round trip.

> Anyway, I'll take your 2000 per year and raise you my
> annual mileage.
>
> Try 150 miles in the last 6 months. I should probably
> get rid of this thing. Cost per mile is a joke but
> convenience of having a vehicle on hand is priceless.
>
The convenience of having a vehicle is great. A guzzler, not so much.

Jill

On 4/13/2019 11:30 AM, Gary wrote:
> John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>>> Try 150 miles in the last 6 months. I should probably
>>> get rid of this thing. Cost per mile is a joke but
>>> convenience of having a vehicle on hand is priceless.
>>
>> You should go 100% electric and either get a used Nissan Leaf (80 miles a charge in my experience) or Tesla Model 3 which is speced at 300 miles a charge!
>
> I've got a nice Trek bike. Even cheaper than your electric car
> and better for my health. All of my shopping is within a mile or
> two. Anytime weather is bad, I can wait.
>
But Gary! You could charge your van for free in his garage! Except
you'd have to move to St. Louis and live somewhere near (hopefully not
in with!) John. Like you, I'd have to pass on his electric car suggestion.

Gotta ask him why he thinks there are electric car chargers all over the
place. Do you see many in or around where you live? I sure as hell
don't see any in the Beaufort, SC area. If my car runs out of gasoline,
it's readily available. My auto insurance includes emergency roadside
assistance so they'll bring me a few gallons of gas or tow it if there's
another problem.

An electric car that runs out of juice when I'm out shopping or parked
for a few hours at work? If it was dead there'd be no way of charging
it. Not buying the electric car idea.

Jill

On Saturday, April 13, 2019 at 7:01:02 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/13/2019 11:30 AM, Gary wrote:
> > John Kuthe wrote:
> >>
> >> Gary wrote:
> >>> Try 150 miles in the last 6 months. I should probably
> >>> get rid of this thing. Cost per mile is a joke but
> >>> convenience of having a vehicle on hand is priceless.
> >>
> >> You should go 100% electric and either get a used Nissan Leaf (80 miles a charge in my experience) or Tesla Model 3 which is speced at 300 miles a charge!
> >
> > I've got a nice Trek bike. Even cheaper than your electric car
> > and better for my health. All of my shopping is within a mile or
> > two. Anytime weather is bad, I can wait.
> >
> But Gary! You could charge your van for free in his garage! Except
> you'd have to move to St. Louis and live somewhere near (hopefully not
> in with!) John. Like you, I'd have to pass on his electric car suggestion.

Gary wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
>> cshenk, that is almost as little as I use....I gas up once about every two months. I get about 22 mpg in town, but I just never go anywhere...I drive about 2000 miles a year. The farthest I have gone in one trip in the past 3 years is 35 miles, one way. LOL.
> Just curious...how did you drive 35 miles one way?
> Did you never go home? Did you move that far one way?
>
> Anyway, I'll take your 2000 per year and raise you my
> annual mileage.
>
> Try 150 miles in the last 6 months. I should probably
> get rid of this thing. Cost per mile is a joke but
> convenience of having a vehicle on hand is priceless.

Tow truck?

On Saturday, April 13, 2019 at 10:01:17 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
> Gary wrote:
> > Nancy2 wrote:
> >> cshenk, that is almost as little as I use....I gas up once about every two months. I get about 22 mpg in town, but I just never go anywhere...I drive about 2000 miles a year. The farthest I have gone in one trip in the past 3 years is 35 miles, one way. LOL.
> > Just curious...how did you drive 35 miles one way?
> > Did you never go home? Did you move that far one way?
> >
> > Anyway, I'll take your 2000 per year and raise you my
> > annual mileage.
> >
> > Try 150 miles in the last 6 months. I should probably
> > get rid of this thing. Cost per mile is a joke but
> > convenience of having a vehicle on hand is priceless.
>
> Tow truck?

Once, when I ran out of charge on the road! But I have AAA Plus for up to 100 miles of towing! Yay!

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Careful Budgeter Of Miles Per Charge!

John Kuthe wrote:
> On Saturday, April 13, 2019 at 10:01:17 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
>> Gary wrote:
>>> Nancy2 wrote:
>>>> cshenk, that is almost as little as I use....I gas up once about every two months. I get about 22 mpg in town, but I just never go anywhere...I drive about 2000 miles a year. The farthest I have gone in one trip in the past 3 years is 35 miles, one way. LOL.
>>> Just curious...how did you drive 35 miles one way?
>>> Did you never go home? Did you move that far one way?
>>>
>>> Anyway, I'll take your 2000 per year and raise you my
>>> annual mileage.
>>>
>>> Try 150 miles in the last 6 months. I should probably
>>> get rid of this thing. Cost per mile is a joke but
>>> convenience of having a vehicle on hand is priceless.
>> Tow truck?
> Once, when I ran out of charge on the road! But I have AAA Plus for up to 100 miles of towing! Yay!
>
> John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Careful Budgeter Of Miles Per Charge!

This post wasn't about you. Not everything is about you. Learn to read
a thread and learn when to STFU.

On Saturday, April 13, 2019 at 8:01:02 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/13/2019 11:30 AM, Gary wrote:
> > John Kuthe wrote:
> >>
> >> Gary wrote:
> >>> Try 150 miles in the last 6 months. I should probably
> >>> get rid of this thing. Cost per mile is a joke but
> >>> convenience of having a vehicle on hand is priceless.
> >>
> >> You should go 100% electric and either get a used Nissan Leaf (80 miles a charge in my experience) or Tesla Model 3 which is speced at 300 miles a charge!
> >
> > I've got a nice Trek bike. Even cheaper than your electric car
> > and better for my health. All of my shopping is within a mile or
> > two. Anytime weather is bad, I can wait.
> >
> But Gary! You could charge your van for free in his garage! Except
> you'd have to move to St. Louis and live somewhere near (hopefully not
> in with!) John. Like you, I'd have to pass on his electric car suggestion.
>
> Gotta ask him why he thinks there are electric car chargers all over the
> place. Do you see many in or around where you live? I sure as hell
> don't see any in the Beaufort, SC area. If my car runs out of gasoline,
> it's readily available. My auto insurance includes emergency roadside
> assistance so they'll bring me a few gallons of gas or tow it if there's
> another problem.
>
> An electric car that runs out of juice when I'm out shopping or parked
> for a few hours at work? If it was dead there'd be no way of charging
> it. Not buying the electric car idea.
>
> Jill

I could manage my commute with an electric car, but I don't have
any faith in their ability to go in snow. I had a Toyota Matrix
up until 2004, and there were days when it was impossible to get
out of my driveway without stopping to shovel snow. I'm not
talking a foot; it was a few inches (which up here is nuthin').

Cindy Hamilton

On 2019-04-14 7:24 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, April 13, 2019 at 8:01:02 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 4/13/2019 11:30 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>> Try 150 miles in the last 6 months. I should probably
>>>>> get rid of this thing. Cost per mile is a joke but
>>>>> convenience of having a vehicle on hand is priceless.
>>>>
>>>> You should go 100% electric and either get a used Nissan Leaf (80 miles a charge in my experience) or Tesla Model 3 which is speced at 300 miles a charge!
>>>
>>> I've got a nice Trek bike. Even cheaper than your electric car
>>> and better for my health. All of my shopping is within a mile or
>>> two. Anytime weather is bad, I can wait.
>>>
>> But Gary! You could charge your van for free in his garage! Except
>> you'd have to move to St. Louis and live somewhere near (hopefully not
>> in with!) John. Like you, I'd have to pass on his electric car suggestion.
>>
>> Gotta ask him why he thinks there are electric car chargers all over the
>> place. Do you see many in or around where you live? I sure as hell
>> don't see any in the Beaufort, SC area. If my car runs out of gasoline,
>> it's readily available. My auto insurance includes emergency roadside
>> assistance so they'll bring me a few gallons of gas or tow it if there's
>> another problem.
>>
>> An electric car that runs out of juice when I'm out shopping or parked
>> for a few hours at work? If it was dead there'd be no way of charging
>> it. Not buying the electric car idea.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I could manage my commute with an electric car, but I don't have
> any faith in their ability to go in snow. I had a Toyota Matrix
> up until 2004, and there were days when it was impossible to get
> out of my driveway without stopping to shovel snow. I'm not
> talking a foot; it was a few inches (which up here is nuthin').
>

That sounds more like a tire problem. My wife drives a Matrix and she
has no problems dealing with snow.

On Sunday, April 14, 2019 at 10:51:50 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-04-14 7:24 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Saturday, April 13, 2019 at 8:01:02 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> >> On 4/13/2019 11:30 AM, Gary wrote:
> >>> John Kuthe wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Gary wrote:
> >>>>> Try 150 miles in the last 6 months. I should probably
> >>>>> get rid of this thing. Cost per mile is a joke but
> >>>>> convenience of having a vehicle on hand is priceless.
> >>>>
> >>>> You should go 100% electric and either get a used Nissan Leaf (80 miles a charge in my experience) or Tesla Model 3 which is speced at 300 miles a charge!
> >>>
> >>> I've got a nice Trek bike. Even cheaper than your electric car
> >>> and better for my health. All of my shopping is within a mile or
> >>> two. Anytime weather is bad, I can wait.
> >>>
> >> But Gary! You could charge your van for free in his garage! Except
> >> you'd have to move to St. Louis and live somewhere near (hopefully not
> >> in with!) John. Like you, I'd have to pass on his electric car suggestion.
> >>
> >> Gotta ask him why he thinks there are electric car chargers all over the
> >> place. Do you see many in or around where you live? I sure as hell
> >> don't see any in the Beaufort, SC area. If my car runs out of gasoline,
> >> it's readily available. My auto insurance includes emergency roadside
> >> assistance so they'll bring me a few gallons of gas or tow it if there's
> >> another problem.
> >>
> >> An electric car that runs out of juice when I'm out shopping or parked
> >> for a few hours at work? If it was dead there'd be no way of charging
> >> it. Not buying the electric car idea.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > I could manage my commute with an electric car, but I don't have
> > any faith in their ability to go in snow. I had a Toyota Matrix
> > up until 2004, and there were days when it was impossible to get
> > out of my driveway without stopping to shovel snow. I'm not
> > talking a foot; it was a few inches (which up here is nuthin').
> >
>
> That sounds more like a tire problem. My wife drives a Matrix and she
> has no problems dealing with snow.

The snow at the entrance to my driveway was frequently too deep.
the Matrix bottomed out on it and the tires didn't meet the pavement.

It's uphill from my driveway to the street. Since 2004 I've had a
Honda CRV and then a Toyota Highlander. Both had enough oomph to
get through the snow to the street.

Cindy Hamilton

Lol, Gary, no I meant that driving 35 miles one way (thus, 70 miles round trip) was as far as I ever
drove on a so-called trip. I guess it didn't make much sense. Sorry, my bad. ;-))

N.

On Sunday, April 14, 2019 at 10:15:07 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, April 14, 2019 at 10:51:50 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2019-04-14 7:24 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Saturday, April 13, 2019 at 8:01:02 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> > >> On 4/13/2019 11:30 AM, Gary wrote:
> > >>> John Kuthe wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Gary wrote:
> > >>>>> Try 150 miles in the last 6 months. I should probably
> > >>>>> get rid of this thing. Cost per mile is a joke but
> > >>>>> convenience of having a vehicle on hand is priceless.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You should go 100% electric and either get a used Nissan Leaf (80 miles a charge in my experience) or Tesla Model 3 which is speced at 300 miles a charge!
> > >>>
> > >>> I've got a nice Trek bike. Even cheaper than your electric car
> > >>> and better for my health. All of my shopping is within a mile or
> > >>> two. Anytime weather is bad, I can wait.
> > >>>
> > >> But Gary! You could charge your van for free in his garage! Except
> > >> you'd have to move to St. Louis and live somewhere near (hopefully not
> > >> in with!) John. Like you, I'd have to pass on his electric car suggestion.
> > >>
> > >> Gotta ask him why he thinks there are electric car chargers all over the
> > >> place. Do you see many in or around where you live? I sure as hell
> > >> don't see any in the Beaufort, SC area. If my car runs out of gasoline,
> > >> it's readily available. My auto insurance includes emergency roadside
> > >> assistance so they'll bring me a few gallons of gas or tow it if there's
> > >> another problem.
> > >>
> > >> An electric car that runs out of juice when I'm out shopping or parked
> > >> for a few hours at work? If it was dead there'd be no way of charging
> > >> it. Not buying the electric car idea.
> > >>
> > >> Jill
> > >
> > > I could manage my commute with an electric car, but I don't have
> > > any faith in their ability to go in snow. I had a Toyota Matrix
> > > up until 2004, and there were days when it was impossible to get
> > > out of my driveway without stopping to shovel snow. I'm not
> > > talking a foot; it was a few inches (which up here is nuthin').
> > >
> >
> > That sounds more like a tire problem. My wife drives a Matrix and she
> > has no problems dealing with snow.
>
> The snow at the entrance to my driveway was frequently too deep.
> the Matrix bottomed out on it and the tires didn't meet the pavement.
>
> It's uphill from my driveway to the street. Since 2004 I've had a
> Honda CRV and then a Toyota Highlander. Both had enough oomph to
> get through the snow to the street.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

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John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and NOT A FARTER! Too Often!

Nancy2 wrote:
>
> Lol, Gary, no I meant that driving 35 miles one way (thus, 70 miles round trip) was as far as I ever
> drove on a so-called trip. I guess it didn't make much sense. Sorry, my bad. ;-))

heheh I was sure that's what you meant. Just playing. However,
it WAS a 70 mile trip, not a 35 miler. It's all good though.

I'm thinking about calling my insurance company and talking a
deal with them. You know...if you fly somewhere and rent a car
for say 3 days, you can just use your own insurance for that or
you can pay a bit extra and they will sell you their 3-days
insurance.

Naturally they won't want to sell me 3-4 days a month insurance.
Like each week only insure me for Wednesdays. I could easily just
drive on Wednesdays. If they refuse, I can cancel them and they
won't get any money from me ever again. DMV might require 24/7
insurance though and probably. It's worth checking into.

Gary, DMV rules are generally only for liability insurance...I'm sure you know that. Well,
unless you can prove fiscal ability to pay any claim. Have you checked with Liberty?
Their new "Limu Emu" commercials brag about individually tailored auto policies.
(Although your Wednesday-only stipulation might stretch their willingness.)

N.

Nancy2 wrote:
>
> Gary, DMV rules are generally only for liability insurance...I'm sure you know that. Well,
> unless you can prove fiscal ability to pay any claim. Have you checked with Liberty?
> Their new "Limu Emu" commercials brag about individually tailored auto policies.
> (Although your Wednesday-only stipulation might stretch their willingness.)

Yeah...I was only "playing" with that idea. Insurance companies
are "big business" and they wouldn't go along with it. Besides,
the past 6 months were a rare time to drive so little. I'll
probably *UP* the mileage in the next 6 months. I went ahead and
paid for it, no questions asked. It's not that much anyway, just
a per mile expense was up there (including gas and minor
repairs).