technically hot pockets are on topic because they need to be microwaved

I am only very recently woke to hot pockets because I was reading an
interview with Jim Gaffigan and they had a youtube video of his hot pockets
routine embedded in the article

I asked my sister if she every tried them and she said they're good

but Jim Gaffigan describes them as "let's take a pop tart and fill it
with some nasty meat"

and "they make vegetarian hot pockets for people who don't eat meat
but still want the diarrhea"

so I'm just looking for other reviews here but I'm afraid I'll have
to try them myself because I'm really curious now

my sister says she likes the cheese hot pockets

On 3/7/2019 12:16 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
> technically hot pockets are on topic because they need to be microwaved
>
> I am only very recently woke to hot pockets because I was reading an
> interview with Jim Gaffigan and they had a youtube video of his hot pockets
> routine embedded in the article
>
> I asked my sister if she every tried them and she said they're good
>
> but Jim Gaffigan describes them as "let's take a pop tart and fill it
> with some nasty meat"
>
> and "they make vegetarian hot pockets for people who don't eat meat
> but still want the diarrhea"
>
> so I'm just looking for other reviews here but I'm afraid I'll have
> to try them myself because I'm really curious now
>
> my sister says she likes the cheese hot pockets
>
>
>
Â* The ham-n-cheese ones were good . Haven't had one in years , they
might not be as good as they once were ...

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

On 3/7/2019 1:16 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
> technically hot pockets are on topic because they need to be microwaved
>
> I am only very recently woke to hot pockets because I was reading an
> interview with Jim Gaffigan and they had a youtube video of his hot pockets
> routine embedded in the article
>
> I asked my sister if she every tried them and she said they're good
>
> but Jim Gaffigan describes them as "let's take a pop tart and fill it
> with some nasty meat"
>
> and "they make vegetarian hot pockets for people who don't eat meat
> but still want the diarrhea"
>
> so I'm just looking for other reviews here but I'm afraid I'll have
> to try them myself because I'm really curious now
>
> my sister says she likes the cheese hot pockets
>
>
>
Jim Gaffigan is a hoot!

I used to buy the Ham & Cheddar Hot Pockets to microwave as a quick
lunch at work. IIRC they come with a crisping sleeve. I never did care
for the pepperoni ones that pretended to be pizza. I've heard of 'Lean
Pockets' (vegetables and sauce in a crust?) but have not tried them. No
interest.

I haven't bought a Hot Pocket in a very long time. I wouldn't recommend
you waste your money.

Jill

On Thursday, March 7, 2019 at 8:20:04 AM UTC-10, tert in seattle wrote:
> technically hot pockets are on topic because they need to be microwaved
>
> I am only very recently woke to hot pockets because I was reading an
> interview with Jim Gaffigan and they had a youtube video of his hot pockets
> routine embedded in the article
>
> I asked my sister if she every tried them and she said they're good
>
> but Jim Gaffigan describes them as "let's take a pop tart and fill it
> with some nasty meat"
>
> and "they make vegetarian hot pockets for people who don't eat meat
> but still want the diarrhea"
>
> so I'm just looking for other reviews here but I'm afraid I'll have
> to try them myself because I'm really curious now
>
> my sister says she likes the cheese hot pockets

You are curious about the world and that's a good thing. Don't listen to what other people have to say about Hot Pockets - find out for yourself. I like Patton Oswalt's shtick about KFC's Famous Bowl. I find that Famous Bowls suits my style - it's like a TV dinner piled in a plastic bowl.

https://www.esquire.com/food-drink/f...-sadness-bowl/

"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
> technically hot pockets are on topic because they need to be microwaved
>
> I am only very recently woke to hot pockets because I was reading an
> interview with Jim Gaffigan and they had a youtube video of his hot
> pockets
> routine embedded in the article
>
> I asked my sister if she every tried them and she said they're good
>
> but Jim Gaffigan describes them as "let's take a pop tart and fill it
> with some nasty meat"
>
> and "they make vegetarian hot pockets for people who don't eat meat
> but still want the diarrhea"
>
> so I'm just looking for other reviews here but I'm afraid I'll have
> to try them myself because I'm really curious now
>
> my sister says she likes the cheese hot pockets

I bought them once many years ago. Nobody liked them. Perhaps a year or so
ago I bought the breakfast ones with eggs inside. They were on sale for
cheap. Again, nobody liked them. I actually don't know anyone who likes
them. Who eats these things?

On 2019-03-07 5:11 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>

>> I asked my sister if she every tried them and she said they're good
>>
>> but Jim Gaffigan describes them as "let's take a pop tart and fill it
>> with some nasty meat"
>>
>> and "they make vegetarian hot pockets for people who don't eat meat
>> but still want the diarrhea"
>>
>> so I'm just looking for other reviews here but I'm afraid I'll have
>> to try them myself because I'm really curious now
>>
>> my sister says she likes the cheese hot pockets
>
> I bought them once many years ago. Nobody liked them. Perhaps a year or
> so ago I bought the breakfast ones with eggs inside. They were on sale
> for cheap. Again, nobody liked them. I actually don't know anyone who
> likes them. Who eats these things?

Even the Bove family doesn't like them??? Imagine that.

On 2019-03-07 3:41 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-03-07 5:11 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>
>>> I asked my sister if she every tried them and she said they're good
>>>
>>> but Jim Gaffigan describes them as "let's take a pop tart and fill it
>>> with some nasty meat"
>>>
>>> and "they make vegetarian hot pockets for people who don't eat meat
>>> but still want the diarrhea"
>>>
>>> so I'm just looking for other reviews here but I'm afraid I'll have
>>> to try them myself because I'm really curious now
>>>
>>> my sister says she likes the cheese hot pockets
>>
>> I bought them once many years ago. Nobody liked them. Perhaps a year
>> or so ago I bought the breakfast ones with eggs inside. They were on
>> sale for cheap. Again, nobody liked them. I actually don't know anyone
>> who likes them. Who eats these things?
>
> Even the Bove family doesn't like them???Â* Imagine that.

More to the point, she bought them a second time and they still didn't
like them.

On 3/7/2019 5:47 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2019-03-07 3:41 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-03-07 5:11 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>> I asked my sister if she every tried them and she said they're good
>>>>
>>>> but Jim Gaffigan describes them as "let's take a pop tart and fill it
>>>> with some nasty meat"
>>>>
>>>> and "they make vegetarian hot pockets for people who don't eat meat
>>>> but still want the diarrhea"
>>>>
>>>> so I'm just looking for other reviews here but I'm afraid I'll have
>>>> to try them myself because I'm really curious now
>>>>
>>>> my sister says she likes the cheese hot pockets
>>>
>>> I bought them once many years ago. Nobody liked them. Perhaps a year
>>> or so ago I bought the breakfast ones with eggs inside. They were on
>>> sale for cheap. Again, nobody liked them. I actually don't know
>>> anyone who likes them. Who eats these things?
>>
>> Even the Bove family doesn't like them???Â* Imagine that.
>
> More to the point, she bought them a second time and they still didn't
> like them.

"On sale for cheap" seems to be a recurring theme. Even if no one likes
whatever it is, at least it was cheap.

Jill

On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 18:00:21 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 3/7/2019 5:47 PM, graham wrote:
>> On 2019-03-07 3:41 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>> Even the Bove family doesn't like them???* Imagine that.
>>
>> More to the point, she bought them a second time and they still didn't
>> like them.
>
>"On sale for cheap" seems to be a recurring theme. Even if no one likes
>whatever it is, at least it was cheap.

Would you rather pay a lot for something you don't like?

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/7/2019 5:47 PM, graham wrote:
>> On 2019-03-07 3:41 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2019-03-07 5:11 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>> I asked my sister if she every tried them and she said they're good
>>>>>
>>>>> but Jim Gaffigan describes them as "let's take a pop tart and fill it
>>>>> with some nasty meat"
>>>>>
>>>>> and "they make vegetarian hot pockets for people who don't eat meat
>>>>> but still want the diarrhea"
>>>>>
>>>>> so I'm just looking for other reviews here but I'm afraid I'll have
>>>>> to try them myself because I'm really curious now
>>>>>
>>>>> my sister says she likes the cheese hot pockets
>>>>
>>>> I bought them once many years ago. Nobody liked them. Perhaps a year or
>>>> so ago I bought the breakfast ones with eggs inside. They were on sale
>>>> for cheap. Again, nobody liked them. I actually don't know anyone who
>>>> likes them. Who eats these things?
>>>
>>> Even the Bove family doesn't like them??? Imagine that.
>>
>> More to the point, she bought them a second time and they still didn't
>> like them.
>
> "On sale for cheap" seems to be a recurring theme. Even if no one likes
> whatever it is, at least it was cheap.

Yes. I generally don't buy stuff like that unless someone requests it, or it
is cheap. I no longer have asst. people in and out of my house. When I did,
and they wanted a snack, chances were good that one of them might eat it.
They wouldn't eat those though.

On 2019-03-07 5:47 p.m., graham wrote:
> On 2019-03-07 3:41 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-03-07 5:11 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>> I asked my sister if she every tried them and she said they're good
>>>>
>>>> but Jim Gaffigan describes them as "let's take a pop tart and fill it
>>>> with some nasty meat"
>>>>
>>>> and "they make vegetarian hot pockets for people who don't eat meat
>>>> but still want the diarrhea"
>>>>
>>>> so I'm just looking for other reviews here but I'm afraid I'll have
>>>> to try them myself because I'm really curious now
>>>>
>>>> my sister says she likes the cheese hot pockets
>>>
>>> I bought them once many years ago. Nobody liked them. Perhaps a year
>>> or so ago I bought the breakfast ones with eggs inside. They were on
>>> sale for cheap. Again, nobody liked them. I actually don't know
>>> anyone who likes them. Who eats these things?
>>
>> Even the Bove family doesn't like them???Â* Imagine that.
>
> More to the point, she bought them a second time and they still didn't
> like them.

It boggles the mind.

"graham" > wrote in message
...
> On 2019-03-07 3:41 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-03-07 5:11 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>> I asked my sister if she every tried them and she said they're good
>>>>
>>>> but Jim Gaffigan describes them as "let's take a pop tart and fill it
>>>> with some nasty meat"
>>>>
>>>> and "they make vegetarian hot pockets for people who don't eat meat
>>>> but still want the diarrhea"
>>>>
>>>> so I'm just looking for other reviews here but I'm afraid I'll have
>>>> to try them myself because I'm really curious now
>>>>
>>>> my sister says she likes the cheese hot pockets
>>>
>>> I bought them once many years ago. Nobody liked them. Perhaps a year or
>>> so ago I bought the breakfast ones with eggs inside. They were on sale
>>> for cheap. Again, nobody liked them. I actually don't know anyone who
>>> likes them. Who eats these things?
>>
>> Even the Bove family doesn't like them??? Imagine that.
>
> More to the point, she bought them a second time and they still didn't
> like them.

I believe the egg ones were a new product.

On 3/8/2019 7:41 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "graham" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2019-03-07 3:41 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2019-03-07 5:11 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>> I asked my sister if she every tried them and she said they're good
>>>>>
>>>>> but Jim Gaffigan describes them as "let's take a pop tart and fill it
>>>>> with some nasty meat"
>>>>>
>>>>> and "they make vegetarian hot pockets for people who don't eat meat
>>>>> but still want the diarrhea"
>>>>>
>>>>> so I'm just looking for other reviews here but I'm afraid I'll have
>>>>> to try them myself because I'm really curious now
>>>>>
>>>>> my sister says she likes the cheese hot pockets
>>>>
>>>> I bought them once many years ago. Nobody liked them. Perhaps a year
>>>> or so ago I bought the breakfast ones with eggs inside. They were on
>>>> sale for cheap. Again, nobody liked them. I actually don't know
>>>> anyone who likes them. Who eats these things?
>>>
>>> Even the Bove family doesn't like them??? Imagine that.
>>
>> More to the point, she bought them a second time and they still didn't
>> like them.
>
> I believe the egg ones were a new product.

Not really. Maybe new to where you shop for things no one winds up liking.

Jill

On 2019-03-08 7:41 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "graham" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2019-03-07 3:41 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>>> I bought them once many years ago. Nobody liked them. Perhaps a year
>>>> or so ago I bought the breakfast ones with eggs inside. They were on
>>>> sale for cheap. Again, nobody liked them. I actually don't know
>>>> anyone who likes them. Who eats these things?
>>>
>>> Even the Bove family doesn't like them??? Imagine that.
>>
>> More to the point, she bought them a second time and they still didn't
>> like them.
>
> I believe the egg ones were a new product.

I believe that would be a variation of a product that nobody liked.

On 3/7/2019 5:11 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "tert in seattle" > wrote in message
> ...
>> technically hot pockets are on topic because they need to be microwaved

>
> I bought them once many years ago. Nobody liked them. Perhaps a year or
> so ago I bought the breakfast ones with eggs inside. They were on sale
> for cheap. Again, nobody liked them. I actually don't know anyone who
> likes them. Who eats these things?

I used to keep some in the freezer at work. Acceptable in a pinch. I
tried them about 6 months ago and though they were terrible. Either I
changed or they changed but now would not touch them.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/7/2019 5:11 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "tert in seattle" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> technically hot pockets are on topic because they need to be microwaved
>
>>
>> I bought them once many years ago. Nobody liked them. Perhaps a year or
>> so ago I bought the breakfast ones with eggs inside. They were on sale
>> for cheap. Again, nobody liked them. I actually don't know anyone who
>> likes them. Who eats these things?
>
> I used to keep some in the freezer at work. Acceptable in a pinch. I
> tried them about 6 months ago and though they were terrible. Either I
> changed or they changed but now would not touch them.

That's what happened here. The boxes said "New and Improved".

Dominos pizza used to be terrible. When I lived in NY, it was a staple at
kid's parties. I couldn't believe it because we were surrounded by good
pizza and every place delivered. After I heard a boy comment, "Pizza
again?", at one such party, I vowed never to have pizza at a party. I
ordered Chinese food. Angela's party was a hit. We did everything Asian and
even gave out fancy chopsticks for the kids to take home.

Dominos has since changed their pizza. It still isn't the best but it's the
best that we can get delivered in this area. IMO, there is no truly
excellent pizza here unless you make it yourself.

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...


"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
> technically hot pockets are on topic because they need to be microwaved
>
> I am only very recently woke to hot pockets because I was reading an
> interview with Jim Gaffigan and they had a youtube video of his hot
> pockets
> routine embedded in the article
>
> I asked my sister if she every tried them and she said they're good
>
> but Jim Gaffigan describes them as "let's take a pop tart and fill it
> with some nasty meat"
>
> and "they make vegetarian hot pockets for people who don't eat meat
> but still want the diarrhea"
>
> so I'm just looking for other reviews here but I'm afraid I'll have
> to try them myself because I'm really curious now
>
> my sister says she likes the cheese hot pockets

I bought them once many years ago. Nobody liked them. Perhaps a year or so
ago I bought the breakfast ones with eggs inside. They were on sale for
cheap. Again, nobody liked them. I actually don't know anyone who likes
them. Who eats these things?

==

Tert's sister? ;p

On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 11:26:51 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
>
>"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
>> technically hot pockets are on topic because they need to be microwaved
>>
>> I am only very recently woke to hot pockets because I was reading an
>> interview with Jim Gaffigan and they had a youtube video of his hot
>> pockets
>> routine embedded in the article
>>
>> I asked my sister if she every tried them and she said they're good
>>
>> but Jim Gaffigan describes them as "let's take a pop tart and fill it
>> with some nasty meat"
>>
>> and "they make vegetarian hot pockets for people who don't eat meat
>> but still want the diarrhea"
>>
>> so I'm just looking for other reviews here but I'm afraid I'll have
>> to try them myself because I'm really curious now
>>
>> my sister says she likes the cheese hot pockets
>
>I bought them once many years ago. Nobody liked them. Perhaps a year or so
>ago I bought the breakfast ones with eggs inside. They were on sale for
>cheap. Again, nobody liked them. I actually don't know anyone who likes
>them. Who eats these things?
>
>==
>
>Tert's sister? ;p

And Cartman in Southpark:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ust_Er_oX5A>

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 11:26:51 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
>
>"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
>> technically hot pockets are on topic because they need to be microwaved
>>
>> I am only very recently woke to hot pockets because I was reading an
>> interview with Jim Gaffigan and they had a youtube video of his hot
>> pockets
>> routine embedded in the article
>>
>> I asked my sister if she every tried them and she said they're good
>>
>> but Jim Gaffigan describes them as "let's take a pop tart and fill it
>> with some nasty meat"
>>
>> and "they make vegetarian hot pockets for people who don't eat meat
>> but still want the diarrhea"
>>
>> so I'm just looking for other reviews here but I'm afraid I'll have
>> to try them myself because I'm really curious now
>>
>> my sister says she likes the cheese hot pockets
>
>I bought them once many years ago. Nobody liked them. Perhaps a year or so
>ago I bought the breakfast ones with eggs inside. They were on sale for
>cheap. Again, nobody liked them. I actually don't know anyone who likes
>them. Who eats these things?
>
>==
>
>Tert's sister? ;p

And Cartman in Southpark:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ust_Er_oX5A>

==

lol

writes:
>
>
>"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
>
>"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
>> technically hot pockets are on topic because they need to be microwaved
>>
>> I am only very recently woke to hot pockets because I was reading an
>> interview with Jim Gaffigan and they had a youtube video of his hot
>> pockets
>> routine embedded in the article
>>
>> I asked my sister if she every tried them and she said they're good
>>
>> but Jim Gaffigan describes them as "let's take a pop tart and fill it
>> with some nasty meat"
>>
>> and "they make vegetarian hot pockets for people who don't eat meat
>> but still want the diarrhea"
>>
>> so I'm just looking for other reviews here but I'm afraid I'll have
>> to try them myself because I'm really curious now
>>
>> my sister says she likes the cheese hot pockets
>
>I bought them once many years ago. Nobody liked them. Perhaps a year or so
>ago I bought the breakfast ones with eggs inside. They were on sale for
>cheap. Again, nobody liked them. I actually don't know anyone who likes
>them. Who eats these things?
>
>==
>
>Tert's sister? ;p


and others have confessed elsewhere in the thread

I don't usually go down that aisle in the grocery store so I may forget
to buy some unless I put them on my list

"tert in seattle" wrote in message ...

writes:
>
>
>"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
>
>"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
>> technically hot pockets are on topic because they need to be microwaved
>>
>> I am only very recently woke to hot pockets because I was reading an
>> interview with Jim Gaffigan and they had a youtube video of his hot
>> pockets
>> routine embedded in the article
>>
>> I asked my sister if she every tried them and she said they're good
>>
>> but Jim Gaffigan describes them as "let's take a pop tart and fill it
>> with some nasty meat"
>>
>> and "they make vegetarian hot pockets for people who don't eat meat
>> but still want the diarrhea"
>>
>> so I'm just looking for other reviews here but I'm afraid I'll have
>> to try them myself because I'm really curious now
>>
>> my sister says she likes the cheese hot pockets
>
>I bought them once many years ago. Nobody liked them. Perhaps a year or so
>ago I bought the breakfast ones with eggs inside. They were on sale for
>cheap. Again, nobody liked them. I actually don't know anyone who likes
>them. Who eats these things?
>
>==
>
>Tert's sister? ;p


and others have confessed elsewhere in the thread

I don't usually go down that aisle in the grocery store so I may forget
to buy some unless I put them on my list

==

) if you enjoy them, why not? )

writes:
>
>
>"tert in seattle" wrote in message ...
>
writes:
>>
>>
>>"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>>
>>
>>"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
>>> technically hot pockets are on topic because they need to be microwaved
>>>
>>> I am only very recently woke to hot pockets because I was reading an
>>> interview with Jim Gaffigan and they had a youtube video of his hot
>>> pockets
>>> routine embedded in the article
>>>
>>> I asked my sister if she every tried them and she said they're good
>>>
>>> but Jim Gaffigan describes them as "let's take a pop tart and fill it
>>> with some nasty meat"
>>>
>>> and "they make vegetarian hot pockets for people who don't eat meat
>>> but still want the diarrhea"
>>>
>>> so I'm just looking for other reviews here but I'm afraid I'll have
>>> to try them myself because I'm really curious now
>>>
>>> my sister says she likes the cheese hot pockets
>>
>>I bought them once many years ago. Nobody liked them. Perhaps a year or so
>>ago I bought the breakfast ones with eggs inside. They were on sale for
>>cheap. Again, nobody liked them. I actually don't know anyone who likes
>>them. Who eats these things?
>>
>>==
>>
>>Tert's sister? ;p
>
>
>and others have confessed elsewhere in the thread
>
>I don't usually go down that aisle in the grocery store so I may forget
>to buy some unless I put them on my list
>
>==
>
>) if you enjoy them, why not? )


I bought the ham and cheese hot pockets this weekend and tried them
with my kids. Actually one of my kids wouldn't even touch them. I cooked
them in the oven because I was making baked potatoes anyway. I'm not
sure how you can screw up ham and cheese but they taste like plastic.
The pastry was okay - it was the "flaky croissant crust" version. I could
only eat three bites. The kid who was brave enough to try them could only
eat two bites. The rest got composted.

http://www.ftupet.com/upload/hotpockets.jpg

On Thursday, March 7, 2019 at 1:20:04 PM UTC-5, tert in seattle wrote:
> technically hot pockets are on topic because they need to be microwaved
>
> I am only very recently woke to hot pockets because I was reading an
> interview with Jim Gaffigan and they had a youtube video of his hot pockets
> routine embedded in the article
>
> I asked my sister if she every tried them and she said they're good
>
> but Jim Gaffigan describes them as "let's take a pop tart and fill it
> with some nasty meat"
>
> and "they make vegetarian hot pockets for people who don't eat meat
> but still want the diarrhea"
>
> so I'm just looking for other reviews here but I'm afraid I'll have
> to try them myself because I'm really curious now
>
> my sister says she likes the cheese hot pockets

When I was a kid we had old english black breasted red game bantams.

I posted this in the egg thread

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 06:16:12 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

>I posted this in the egg thread

You could have fooled me.

On Thu, 7 Mar 2019, tert in seattle wrote:

> technically hot pockets are on topic because they need to be microwaved
>
> I am only very recently woke to hot pockets because I was reading an
> interview with Jim Gaffigan and they had a youtube video of his hot pockets
> routine embedded in the article
>
> I asked my sister if she every tried them and she said they're good
>
> but Jim Gaffigan describes them as "let's take a pop tart and fill it
> with some nasty meat"
>
> and "they make vegetarian hot pockets for people who don't eat meat
> but still want the diarrhea"
>
> so I'm just looking for other reviews here but I'm afraid I'll have
> to try them myself because I'm really curious now
>
> my sister says she likes the cheese hot pockets

I would rate them "meh".

Tasty enough, and easy enough, but nothing I'd buy on a routine basis.