The recent posts on crumpets got me thinking that I had not made them
for a few months. They seemed like a good idea for a cold, wintry
morning. Since my new JoC doesn't have a crumpet recipe I went online
and printed on up. It was a little different from the old on. It
called for activated yeast. I only had fast acting, so it was going to
have to do. Maybe it was too old, but the yeast just never really worked
much. The batter was much denser than my old recipe. It glooped out
slowly and over filled the rings. The never developed the nooks and
crannies that are the hallmark of crumpets. They tasted okay but the
texture was a flop.

On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 13:37:43 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>The recent posts on crumpets got me thinking that I had not made them
>for a few months. They seemed like a good idea for a cold, wintry
>morning. Since my new JoC doesn't have a crumpet recipe I went online
>and printed on up. It was a little different from the old on. It
>called for activated yeast. I only had fast acting, so it was going to
>have to do. Maybe it was too old, but the yeast just never really worked
>much. The batter was much denser than my old recipe. It glooped out
>slowly and over filled the rings. The never developed the nooks and
>crannies that are the hallmark of crumpets. They tasted okay but the
>texture was a flop.

Perhaps you need to find some recipes on line and compare them to the
recipe you used:
https://search.aol.com/aol/search?q=...t=loki-keyword

On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 13:37:43 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>The recent posts on crumpets got me thinking that I had not made them
>for a few months. They seemed like a good idea for a cold, wintry
>morning. Since my new JoC doesn't have a crumpet recipe I went online
>and printed on up. It was a little different from the old on. It
>called for activated yeast. I only had fast acting, so it was going to
>have to do. Maybe it was too old, but the yeast just never really worked
>much. The batter was much denser than my old recipe. It glooped out
>slowly and over filled the rings. The never developed the nooks and
>crannies that are the hallmark of crumpets. They tasted okay but the
>texture was a flop.

are you using a different brand of flour now? they are all milled
differently.

On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 13:37:43 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:

> The recent posts on crumpets got me thinking that I had not made them
> for a few months. They seemed like a good idea for a cold, wintry
> morning. Since my new JoC doesn't have a crumpet recipe I went online
> and printed on up. It was a little different from the old on. It
> called for activated yeast. I only had fast acting, so it was going to
> have to do.

There's no such thing as "Activated Yeast" sold at stores. Yeast
get activated at home.

-sw

On 2018-12-09 2:38 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 13:37:43 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> The recent posts on crumpets got me thinking that I had not made them
>> for a few months. They seemed like a good idea for a cold, wintry
>> morning. Since my new JoC doesn't have a crumpet recipe I went online
>> and printed on up. It was a little different from the old on. It
>> called for activated yeast. I only had fast acting, so it was going to
>> have to do. Maybe it was too old, but the yeast just never really worked
>> much. The batter was much denser than my old recipe. It glooped out
>> slowly and over filled the rings. The never developed the nooks and
>> crannies that are the hallmark of crumpets. They tasted okay but the
>> texture was a flop.
>
> are you using a different brand of flour now? they are all milled
> differently.
>

I always use Robin Hood unbleached all purpose. The yeast just didn't
seem to work. It's possible that the milk was too hot and ruined the
yeast. My old recipe called for scalding the milk and then adding an
equal amount of water which then brought the temperature down to
something conducive to yeast working.

The crumpets were edible, but they sure weren't as good as my earlier
escapades with them. I never counted on advice on them before because I
don't know anyone who makes them.

I remember loving crumpets when I was a kid. Over the years I became
increasingly disappointed with the store bought products. That was when
I decided to try making them. They were a major success. Damn, I wish I
had the old recipe.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> The recent posts on crumpets got me thinking that I had not made them for
> a few months. They seemed like a good idea for a cold, wintry morning.
> Since my new JoC doesn't have a crumpet recipe I went online and printed
> on up. It was a little different from the old on. It called for
> activated yeast. I only had fast acting, so it was going to have to do.
> Maybe it was too old, but the yeast just never really worked much. The
> batter was much denser than my old recipe. It glooped out slowly and over
> filled the rings. The never developed the nooks and crannies that are the
> hallmark of crumpets. They tasted okay but the texture was a flop.

I made them once as a child. Having never eaten them before, I wasn't sure
if they came out correctly or not. I did buy one once at a crumpet place at
Pike Place market. I was a teen then. Seemed to be the same as what I made
at home. I guess crumpets aren't my thing. My friends raved about how great
they were. I remember eating a couple of bites then giving the rest to a
friend. Now they are widely available. I did try one again before I knew of
my issue with eggs. Still wasn't appealing to me.

On 2018-12-09 7:13 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>> The recent posts on crumpets got me thinking that I had not made them
>> for a few months. They seemed like a good idea for a cold, wintry
>> morning. Since my new JoC doesn't have a crumpet recipe I went online
>> and printed on up.Â* It was a little different from the old on.Â* It
>> called for activated yeast. I only had fast acting, so it was going to
>> have to do. Maybe it was too old, but the yeast just never really
>> worked much.Â* The batter was much denser than my old recipe.Â* It
>> glooped out slowly and over filled the rings.Â* The never developed the
>> nooks and crannies that are the hallmark of crumpets. They tasted okay
>> but the texture was a flop.
>
> I made them once as a child. Having never eaten them before, I wasn't
> sure if they came out correctly or not. I did buy one once at a crumpet
> place at Pike Place market. I was a teen then. Seemed to be the same as
> what I made at home. I guess crumpets aren't my thing. My friends raved
> about how great they were. I remember eating a couple of bites then
> giving the rest to a friend. Now they are widely available. I did try
> one again before I knew of my issue with eggs. Still wasn't appealing to
> me.


Eggs????? WTF do eggs have to do with crumpets????

On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 17:30:44 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-12-09 2:38 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 13:37:43 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> The recent posts on crumpets got me thinking that I had not made them
>>> for a few months. They seemed like a good idea for a cold, wintry
>>> morning. Since my new JoC doesn't have a crumpet recipe I went online
>>> and printed on up. It was a little different from the old on. It
>>> called for activated yeast. I only had fast acting, so it was going to
>>> have to do. Maybe it was too old, but the yeast just never really worked
>>> much. The batter was much denser than my old recipe. It glooped out
>>> slowly and over filled the rings. The never developed the nooks and
>>> crannies that are the hallmark of crumpets. They tasted okay but the
>>> texture was a flop.
>>
>> are you using a different brand of flour now? they are all milled
>> differently.
>>
>
>I always use Robin Hood unbleached all purpose. The yeast just didn't
>seem to work. It's possible that the milk was too hot and ruined the
>yeast. My old recipe called for scalding the milk and then adding an
>equal amount of water which then brought the temperature down to
>something conducive to yeast working.
>
>The crumpets were edible, but they sure weren't as good as my earlier
>escapades with them. I never counted on advice on them before because I
>don't know anyone who makes them.
>
>I remember loving crumpets when I was a kid. Over the years I became
>increasingly disappointed with the store bought products. That was when
>I decided to try making them. They were a major success. Damn, I wish I
>had the old recipe.
>
no hotter than 110F and even then I make sure to mix with other
ingredients promptly

On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 19:29:27 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-12-09 7:13 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> The recent posts on crumpets got me thinking that I had not made them
>>> for a few months. They seemed like a good idea for a cold, wintry
>>> morning. Since my new JoC doesn't have a crumpet recipe I went online
>>> and printed on up.* It was a little different from the old on.* It
>>> called for activated yeast. I only had fast acting, so it was going to
>>> have to do. Maybe it was too old, but the yeast just never really
>>> worked much.* The batter was much denser than my old recipe.* It
>>> glooped out slowly and over filled the rings.* The never developed the
>>> nooks and crannies that are the hallmark of crumpets. They tasted okay
>>> but the texture was a flop.
>>
>> I made them once as a child. Having never eaten them before, I wasn't
>> sure if they came out correctly or not. I did buy one once at a crumpet
>> place at Pike Place market. I was a teen then. Seemed to be the same as
>> what I made at home. I guess crumpets aren't my thing. My friends raved
>> about how great they were. I remember eating a couple of bites then
>> giving the rest to a friend. Now they are widely available. I did try
>> one again before I knew of my issue with eggs. Still wasn't appealing to
>> me.
>
>
>Eggs????? WTF do eggs have to do with crumpets????

She must be getting them mixed up with Yorkshire pudding. They're both
British, after all.

Doris

In article >, says...
>
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
> > The recent posts on crumpets got me thinking that I had not made them for
> > a few months. They seemed like a good idea for a cold, wintry morning.
> > Since my new JoC doesn't have a crumpet recipe I went online and printed
> > on up. It was a little different from the old on. It called for
> > activated yeast. I only had fast acting, so it was going to have to do.
> > Maybe it was too old, but the yeast just never really worked much. The
> > batter was much denser than my old recipe. It glooped out slowly and over
> > filled the rings. The never developed the nooks and crannies that are the
> > hallmark of crumpets. They tasted okay but the texture was a flop.
>
> I made them once as a child. Having never eaten them before, I wasn't sure
> if they came out correctly or not. I did buy one once at a crumpet place at
> Pike Place market.

Somehow I find it hard to imagine "a crumpet place" exists in USA.
Certainly not in UK.


I was a teen then. Seemed to be the same as what I made
> at home. I guess crumpets aren't my thing. My friends raved about how great
> they were. I remember eating a couple of bites then giving the rest to a
> friend. Now they are widely available. I did try one again before I knew of
> my issue with eggs. Still wasn't appealing to me.

There's no egg in crumpets.

Janet UK

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 03:09:14 -0000, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, says...
>>
>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > The recent posts on crumpets got me thinking that I had not made them for
>> > a few months. They seemed like a good idea for a cold, wintry morning.
>> > Since my new JoC doesn't have a crumpet recipe I went online and printed
>> > on up. It was a little different from the old on. It called for
>> > activated yeast. I only had fast acting, so it was going to have to do.
>> > Maybe it was too old, but the yeast just never really worked much. The
>> > batter was much denser than my old recipe. It glooped out slowly and over
>> > filled the rings. The never developed the nooks and crannies that are the
>> > hallmark of crumpets. They tasted okay but the texture was a flop.
>>
>> I made them once as a child. Having never eaten them before, I wasn't sure
>> if they came out correctly or not. I did buy one once at a crumpet place at
>> Pike Place market.
>
> Somehow I find it hard to imagine "a crumpet place" exists in USA.
>Certainly not in UK.
>
>
> I was a teen then. Seemed to be the same as what I made
>> at home. I guess crumpets aren't my thing. My friends raved about how great
>> they were. I remember eating a couple of bites then giving the rest to a
>> friend. Now they are widely available. I did try one again before I knew of
>> my issue with eggs. Still wasn't appealing to me.
>
> There's no egg in crumpets.
>
> Janet UK

Julie only responds to posts other than her own to say BTDT, don't
like it.

On 12/9/2018 5:30 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-12-09 2:38 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 13:37:43 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> The recent posts on crumpets got me thinking that I had not made them
>>> for a few months. They seemed like a good idea for a cold, wintry
>>> morning. Since my new JoC doesn't have a crumpet recipe I went online
>>> and printed on up.Â* It was a little different from the old on.Â* It
>>> called for activated yeast. I only had fast acting, so it was going to
>>> have to do. Maybe it was too old, but the yeast just never really worked
>>> much.Â* The batter was much denser than my old recipe.Â* It glooped out
>>> slowly and over filled the rings.Â* The never developed the nooks and
>>> crannies that are the hallmark of crumpets. They tasted okay but the
>>> texture was a flop.
>>
>> are you using a different brand of flour now?Â* they are all milled
>> differently.
>>
>
> I always use Robin Hood unbleached all purpose.Â* The yeast just didn't
> seem to work. It's possible that the milk was too hot and ruined the
> yeast. My old recipe called for scalding the milk and then adding an
> equal amount of water which then brought the temperature down to
> something conducive to yeast working.
>
> The crumpets were edible, but they sure weren't as good as my earlier
> escapades with them.Â* I never counted on advice on them before because I
> don't know anyone who makes them.
>
> I remember loving crumpets when I was a kid. Over the years I became
> increasingly disappointed with the store bought products.Â* That was when
> I decided to try making them. They were a major success.Â* Damn, I wish I
> had the old recipe.
>
It sounds like you got rid of your old JoC cookbook when you got a later
edition. That's a shame. Better luck next time!

Jill

On 10 Dec 2018, Wayne Boatwright wrote
(in 6.35.198>):

> On Sun 09 Dec 2018 08:09:14p, Janet told us...
>
> > In >,
> > says...
> > >
> > > "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > The recent posts on crumpets got me thinking that I had not
> > > > made them for a few months. They seemed like a good idea for a
> > > > cold, wintry morning. Since my new JoC doesn't have a crumpet
> > > > recipe I went online and printed on up. It was a little
> > > > different from the old on. It called for activated yeast. I
> > > > only had fast acting, so it was going to have to do. Maybe it
> > > > was too old, but the yeast just never really worked much. The
> > > > batter was much denser than my old recipe. It glooped out
> > > > slowly and over filled the rings. The never developed the
> > > > nooks and crannies that are the hallmark of crumpets. They
> > > > tasted okay but the texture was a flop.
> > >
> > > I made them once as a child. Having never eaten them before, I
> > > wasn't sure if they came out correctly or not. I did buy one once
> > > at a crumpet place at Pike Place market.
> >
> > Somehow I find it hard to imagine "a crumpet place" exists in
> > USA.
> > Certainly not in UK.
>
> Ah, I found it!
>
> https://carefreetea.com/our-menu/

Looks like a pleasant place to have afternoon tea, if somewhat over-chintzy
in its decor.

We Brits are not all pastel shades and frilly bows, you know.

And I have had beans on toast many hundreds (possibly thousands) of times,
but never on dill and potato toast (whatever that is).

Heinz beans are nothing to shout about. I much prefer Branstons.

>
>
> > > I was a teen then. Seemed to be the same as what I made
> > > at home. I guess crumpets aren't my thing. My friends raved about
> > > how great they were. I remember eating a couple of bites then
> > > giving the rest to a friend. Now they are widely available. I did
> > > try one again before I knew of my issue with eggs. Still wasn't
> > > appealing to me.
> >
> > There's no egg in crumpets.
> >
> > Janet UK

On 2018-12-10 8:49 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 12/9/2018 5:30 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>> I remember loving crumpets when I was a kid. Over the years I became
>> increasingly disappointed with the store bought products.Â* That was
>> when I decided to try making them. They were a major success.Â* Damn, I
>> wish I had the old recipe.
>>
> It sounds like you got rid of your old JoC cookbook when you got a later
> edition.Â* That's a shame. Â* Better luck next time!
>


I had heard about changes in newer editions of JoC. I had checked a
number of my old standards and they were there. It is a shame that
someone in this house keeps the cookbook open near where we works and
slopped up the pages with the most used recipes. Some were no longer
readable. Aside from the altered or missing recipes, the print is a lot
smaller in the new one.

On the plus side.... I have a computer and printer and access to an
endless supply of recipes on the internet. Most of those I use these
days have been entered into the computer. I have a folder full of good
recipes and a couple binders with hard copies. I really don't use the
cookbooks very often.

In article 8>,
says...
>
> On Sun 09 Dec 2018 08:09:14p, Janet told us...
>
> > In article >,
> > says...
> >>
> >> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > The recent posts on crumpets got me thinking that I had not
> >> > made them for a few months. They seemed like a good idea for a
> >> > cold, wintry morning. Since my new JoC doesn't have a crumpet
> >> > recipe I went online and printed on up. It was a little
> >> > different from the old on. It called for activated yeast. I
> >> > only had fast acting, so it was going to have to do. Maybe it
> >> > was too old, but the yeast just never really worked much. The
> >> > batter was much denser than my old recipe. It glooped out
> >> > slowly and over filled the rings. The never developed the
> >> > nooks and crannies that are the hallmark of crumpets. They
> >> > tasted okay but the texture was a flop.
> >>
> >> I made them once as a child. Having never eaten them before, I
> >> wasn't sure if they came out correctly or not. I did buy one once
> >> at a crumpet place at Pike Place market.
> >
> > Somehow I find it hard to imagine "a crumpet place" exists in
> > USA.
> > Certainly not in UK.
>
> There is (or was) an English tea room here in Phoenix. Among a fairly
> nice selection of items on their menu, crumpets were on it and they
> were like those I was served in someone's home in England. The tea
> room was some disance from where we now live, so have not been back in
> several years.

"A crumpet place" suggests it specialises in one thing. Crumpets.
Even in UK, we don't have unique outlets selling just crumpets.

She didn't say "tea room" , "cafe" "cake shop".. the kind of places
where crumpets might be one of the items on the menu.

Janet UK

In article 8>,
says...
>
> On Sun 09 Dec 2018 08:09:14p, Janet told us...
>
> > In article >,
> > says...
> >>
> >> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > The recent posts on crumpets got me thinking that I had not
> >> > made them for a few months. They seemed like a good idea for a
> >> > cold, wintry morning. Since my new JoC doesn't have a crumpet
> >> > recipe I went online and printed on up. It was a little
> >> > different from the old on. It called for activated yeast. I
> >> > only had fast acting, so it was going to have to do. Maybe it
> >> > was too old, but the yeast just never really worked much. The
> >> > batter was much denser than my old recipe. It glooped out
> >> > slowly and over filled the rings. The never developed the
> >> > nooks and crannies that are the hallmark of crumpets. They
> >> > tasted okay but the texture was a flop.
> >>
> >> I made them once as a child. Having never eaten them before, I
> >> wasn't sure if they came out correctly or not. I did buy one once
> >> at a crumpet place at Pike Place market.
> >
> > Somehow I find it hard to imagine "a crumpet place" exists in
> > USA.
> > Certainly not in UK.
>
> Ah, I found it!
>
> https://carefreetea.com/our-menu/

Nice tea room, but neither you or I would call it "a crumpet place".

I am amazed to see this

https://carefreetea.com/etiquette-classes/


"Etiquette Classes

Trained by the American School of Protocol in Atlanta, Georgia, Jo
Gemmill, the Owner of the English Rose Tea Room, is a qualified
children?s etiquette instructor and offers classes on table manners, tea
party manners and general etiquette.

Classes are held at the Tea Room from 3.30pm to 5.00pm for groups of 6-
12 children.

Subjects covered in the class include:

How to set the table
Correct use of the knife and fork
Use of the napkin
Manners at the table
Tea party manners"

$40 dollars per child !!!!!!

Damn; to think I've been doing it for free all these years.


Janet UK

On 2018-12-10 10:19 a.m., Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Mon 10 Dec 2018 09:24:24a, Janet told us...
>
>> In article 8>,
>> says...
>>>
>>> On Sun 09 Dec 2018 08:09:14p, Janet told us...
>>>
>>>> In article >,
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> The recent posts on crumpets got me thinking that I had not
>>>>>> made them for a few months. They seemed like a good idea for
>>>>>> a cold, wintry morning. Since my new JoC doesn't have a
>>>>>> crumpet recipe I went online and printed on up. It was a
>>>>>> little different from the old on. It called for activated
>>>>>> yeast. I only had fast acting, so it was going to have to
>>>>>> do. Maybe it was too old, but the yeast just never really
>>>>>> worked much. The batter was much denser than my old recipe.
>>>>>> It glooped out slowly and over filled the rings. The never
>>>>>> developed the nooks and crannies that are the hallmark of
>>>>>> crumpets. They tasted okay but the texture was a flop.
>>>>>
>>>>> I made them once as a child. Having never eaten them before, I
>>>>> wasn't sure if they came out correctly or not. I did buy one
>>>>> once at a crumpet place at Pike Place market.
>>>>
>>>> Somehow I find it hard to imagine "a crumpet place" exists
>>>> in USA.
>>>> Certainly not in UK.
>>>
>>> There is (or was) an English tea room here in Phoenix. Among a
>>> fairly nice selection of items on their menu, crumpets were on it
>>> and they were like those I was served in someone's home in
>>> England. The tea room was some disance from where we now live,
>>> so have not been back in several years.
>>
>> "A crumpet place" suggests it specialises in one thing.
>> Crumpets.
>> Even in UK, we don't have unique outlets selling just crumpets.
>>
>> She didn't say "tea room" , "cafe" "cake shop".. the kind of
>> places
>> where crumpets might be one of the items on the menu.
>>
>> Janet UK
>>
>>
>>
>
> Whatever. I'd be highly suspicious of anthing Julie says. Saying
> something is "a crumpet place" could mean more than just selling
> crumpets exclusively. Here in the US there are rarely any shops that
> sell only one type of item. At one time doughnut shops usually only
> sold donuts. Now most of them also sell muffins (more like cupcakes)
> and other baked goods. There's no telling what that shop also might
> have sold.
>
Well translating "a crumpet place" from English slang could mean a place
where you purchased a "Piece of crumpet", i.e., a brothel. Perhaps
there's a Bothel brothel she knows of:-)

On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 7:26:35 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:

> Well translating "a crumpet place" from English slang could mean a place
> where you purchased a "Piece of crumpet", i.e., a brothel. Perhaps
> there's a Bothel brothel she knows of:-)

That's a very cute UK slang. There's a place upstairs from where I work that sells Asian crumpets. The place got raided recently but it's business as usual up there. They deal in crumpet trafficking i.e., the crumpets aren't allowed to leave the bakery. The baker keeps all their passports.

On 2018-12-10 10:54 a.m., Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Mon 10 Dec 2018 10:26:32a, graham told us...
>
>> On 2018-12-10 10:19 a.m., Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Mon 10 Dec 2018 09:24:24a, Janet told us...
>>>
>>>> In article 8>,
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun 09 Dec 2018 08:09:14p, Janet told us...
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article >,
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> The recent posts on crumpets got me thinking that I had not
>>>>>>>> made them for a few months. They seemed like a good idea for
>>>>>>>> a cold, wintry morning. Since my new JoC doesn't have a
>>>>>>>> crumpet recipe I went online and printed on up. It was a
>>>>>>>> little different from the old on. It called for activated
>>>>>>>> yeast. I only had fast acting, so it was going to have to
>>>>>>>> do. Maybe it was too old, but the yeast just never really
>>>>>>>> worked much. The batter was much denser than my old recipe.
>>>>>>>> It glooped out slowly and over filled the rings. The
>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>> developed the nooks and crannies that are the hallmark of
>>>>>>>> crumpets. They tasted okay but the texture was a flop.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I made them once as a child. Having never eaten them before,
>>>>>>> I wasn't sure if they came out correctly or not. I did buy
>>>>>>> one once at a crumpet place at Pike Place market.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Somehow I find it hard to imagine "a crumpet place"
>>>>>> exists in USA.
>>>>>> Certainly not in UK.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is (or was) an English tea room here in Phoenix. Among a
>>>>> fairly nice selection of items on their menu, crumpets were on
>>>>> it and they were like those I was served in someone's home in
>>>>> England. The tea room was some disance from where we now live,
>>>>> so have not been back in several years.
>>>>
>>>> "A crumpet place" suggests it specialises in one thing.
>>>> Crumpets.
>>>> Even in UK, we don't have unique outlets selling just crumpets.
>>>>
>>>> She didn't say "tea room" , "cafe" "cake shop".. the kind
>>>> of places
>>>> where crumpets might be one of the items on the menu.
>>>>
>>>> Janet UK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Whatever. I'd be highly suspicious of anthing Julie says.
>>> Saying something is "a crumpet place" could mean more than just
>>> selling crumpets exclusively. Here in the US there are rarely
>>> any shops that sell only one type of item. At one time doughnut
>>> shops usually only sold donuts. Now most of them also sell
>>> muffins (more like cupcakes) and other baked goods. There's no
>>> telling what that shop also might have sold.
>>>
>> Well translating "a crumpet place" from English slang could mean a
>> place where you purchased a "Piece of crumpet", i.e., a brothel.
>> Perhaps there's a Bothel brothel she knows of:-)
>>
>
> LOL Maybe that's where Julie went. No wonder it didn't taste the
> same.
>
In reality, a "piece of crumpet" means any attractive woman:-)

On 2018-12-10 11:24 a.m., Janet wrote:
> In article 8>,
> says...
>>
>Certainly not in UK.
>>
>> There is (or was) an English tea room here in Phoenix. Among a fairly
>> nice selection of items on their menu, crumpets were on it and they
>> were like those I was served in someone's home in England. The tea
>> room was some disance from where we now live, so have not been back in
>> several years.
>
> "A crumpet place" suggests it specialises in one thing. Crumpets.
> Even in UK, we don't have unique outlets selling just crumpets.
>
> She didn't say "tea room" , "cafe" "cake shop".. the kind of places
> where crumpets might be one of the items on the menu.
>

Maybe the eggy crumpets were the ruination of the crumpet place.

On 10 Dec 2018, Pamela wrote
(in article >):

> On 13:49 10 Dec 2018, > wrote in
> :
>
> > On 12/9/2018 5:30 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2018-12-09 2:38 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 13:37:43 -0500, Dave Smith
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The recent posts on crumpets got me thinking that I had not made
> > > > > them for a few months. They seemed like a good idea for a cold,
> > > > > wintry morning. Since my new JoC doesn't have a crumpet recipe I
> > > > > went online and printed on up. It was a little different from the
> > > > > old on. It called for activated yeast. I only had fast acting, so
> > > > > it was going to have to do. Maybe it was too old, but the yeast
> > > > > just never really worked much. The batter was much denser than my
> > > > > old recipe. It glooped out slowly and over filled the rings.
> > > > > The never developed the nooks and crannies that are the hallmark of
> > > > > crumpets. They tasted okay but the texture was a flop.
> > > >
> > > > are you using a different brand of flour now? they are all milled
> > > > differently.
> > >
> > > I always use Robin Hood unbleached all purpose. The yeast just
> > > didn't seem to work. It's possible that the milk was too hot and
> > > ruined the yeast. My old recipe called for scalding the milk and then
> > > adding an equal amount of water which then brought the temperature
> > > down to something conducive to yeast working.
> > >
> > > The crumpets were edible, but they sure weren't as good as my earlier
> > > escapades with them. I never counted on advice on them before
> > > because I don't know anyone who makes them.
> > >
> > > I remember loving crumpets when I was a kid. Over the years I became
> > > increasingly disappointed with the store bought products. That was
> > > when I decided to try making them. They were a major success. Damn,
> > > I wish I had the old recipe.
> > It sounds like you got rid of your old JoC cookbook when you got a
> > later edition. That's a shame. Better luck next time!
> >
> > Jill
>
> Here's a free 1997 edition of JOC, if it's the right one.
>
> http://b-ok.cc/book/3328635/74c933

Thanks for that link. I have downloaded the pdf file, and having a quick
glance through the first few pages of recipes it looks to be an excellent
reference tool.

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 16:24:24 -0000, Janet wrote:

> In article 8>,
> says...
>
>> There is (or was) an English tea room here in Phoenix. Among a fairly
>> nice selection of items on their menu, crumpets were on it and they
>> were like those I was served in someone's home in England. The tea
>> room was some disance from where we now live, so have not been back in
>> several years.
>
> "A crumpet place" suggests it specialises in one thing. Crumpets.
> Even in UK, we don't have unique outlets selling just crumpets.

Since 1976.

https://thecrumpetshop.com/

-sw

On Monday, 10 December 2018 13:15:25 UTC-6, graham wrote:

> In reality, a "piece of crumpet" means any attractive woman:-)


You mean a "strumpet"...???

--
Best
Greg

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 12:50:25 -0800 (PST), GM
> wrote:

>On Monday, 10 December 2018 13:15:25 UTC-6, graham wrote:
>
>> In reality, a "piece of crumpet" means any attractive woman:-)
>
>
>You mean a "strumpet"...???

I think he means a frumpet.

"GM" wrote in message
...

On Monday, 10 December 2018 13:15:25 UTC-6, graham wrote:

> In reality, a "piece of crumpet" means any attractive woman:-)


You mean a "strumpet"...???

Best
Greg

==

No, Greg. That is something entirely different.

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:18:52 +0000, Fruitiest of Fruitcakes
> wrote:

>On 10 Dec 2018, Pamela wrote
>(in article >):
>
>> On 13:49 10 Dec 2018, > wrote in
>> :
>>
>> > On 12/9/2018 5:30 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> > > On 2018-12-09 2:38 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> > > > On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 13:37:43 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > The recent posts on crumpets got me thinking that I had not made
>> > > > > them for a few months. They seemed like a good idea for a cold,
>> > > > > wintry morning. Since my new JoC doesn't have a crumpet recipe I
>> > > > > went online and printed on up. It was a little different from the
>> > > > > old on. It called for activated yeast. I only had fast acting, so
>> > > > > it was going to have to do. Maybe it was too old, but the yeast
>> > > > > just never really worked much. The batter was much denser than my
>> > > > > old recipe. It glooped out slowly and over filled the rings.
>> > > > > The never developed the nooks and crannies that are the hallmark of
>> > > > > crumpets. They tasted okay but the texture was a flop.
>> > > >
>> > > > are you using a different brand of flour now? they are all milled
>> > > > differently.
>> > >
>> > > I always use Robin Hood unbleached all purpose. The yeast just
>> > > didn't seem to work. It's possible that the milk was too hot and
>> > > ruined the yeast. My old recipe called for scalding the milk and then
>> > > adding an equal amount of water which then brought the temperature
>> > > down to something conducive to yeast working.
>> > >
>> > > The crumpets were edible, but they sure weren't as good as my earlier
>> > > escapades with them. I never counted on advice on them before
>> > > because I don't know anyone who makes them.
>> > >
>> > > I remember loving crumpets when I was a kid. Over the years I became
>> > > increasingly disappointed with the store bought products. That was
>> > > when I decided to try making them. They were a major success. Damn,
>> > > I wish I had the old recipe.
>> > It sounds like you got rid of your old JoC cookbook when you got a
>> > later edition. That's a shame. Better luck next time!
>> >
>> > Jill
>>
>> Here's a free 1997 edition of JOC, if it's the right one.
>>
>> http://b-ok.cc/book/3328635/74c933
>
>Thanks for that link. I have downloaded the pdf file, and having a quick
>glance through the first few pages of recipes it looks to be an excellent
>reference tool.

Didja know that crumpets are the fruitiest faggot flapjacks.

On 2018-12-10 5:38 p.m., wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:18:52 +0000, Fruitiest of Fruitcakes

>> Thanks for that link. I have downloaded the pdf file, and having a quick
>> glance through the first few pages of recipes it looks to be an excellent
>> reference tool.
>
> Didja know that crumpets are the fruitiest faggot flapjacks.

No. I did not know that. It that because they are an English treat and
all things English are fruity?

Lil' Wayne Boatwright fellated:

> There is (or was) an English tea room here in Phoenix. Among a fairly
> nice selection of items on their menu, crumpets were on it and they
> were like those I was served in someone's home in England. The tea
> room was some disance from where we now live, so have not been back in
> several years.


Lil' Wayne, you'd *know* from "tea rooms", LOL:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tearoom

"tea room:

a public men's restroom used for homosexual activity

Usage example: "That faggot wanted to take me to a tea room..."

</>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cottaging

"Cottaging is a *** slang term, originating from the United Kingdom, referring to anonymous sex between men in a public lavatory (a "cottage", "tea-room"), or cruising for sexual partners with the intention of having sex elsewhere. The term has its roots in self-contained English toilet blocks resembling small cottages in their appearance; in the English cant language of Polari this became a double entendre by *** men referring to sexual encounters.

The word "cottage", usually meaning a small, cosy, countryside home, is documented as having been in use during the Victorian era to refer to a public toilet and by the 1960s its use in this sense had become an exclusively homosexual slang term. This usage is predominantly British, though the term is occasionally used with the same meaning in other parts of the world. Among *** men in the United States, lavatories used for this purpose are called tea rooms

Locations:

Cottages were and are located in places heavily used by many people such as bus stations, railway stations, airports and university campuses. Often glory holes are drilled in the walls between cubicles in popular cottages. Foot signals €” tapping a foot, sliding a foot slightly under the divider between stalls, attracting the attention of the occupant of the next stall €” are used to signify that one wishes to connect with the person in the next cubicle. In some heavily used cottages, an etiquette develops and one person may function as a lookout to warn if non-cottagers are coming.

Since the 1980s, more individuals in authority have become more aware of the existence of cottages in places under their jurisdiction and have reduced the height of or even removed doors from the cubicles of popular cottages, or extended the walls between the cubicles to the floor to prevent foot signalling.

Cottages as meeting places:

Before the *** liberation movement, many, if not most, *** and bisexual men at the time were closeted and there were almost no public *** social groups for those under legal drinking age. As such, cottages were among the few places where men too young to get into *** bars could meet others whom they knew to be ***.

The internet brought significant changes to cottaging, which was previously an activity engaged in by men with other men, often in silence with no communication beyond the markings of a cubicle wall. Today, an online community is being established in which men exchange details of locations, discussing aspects such as when it receives the highest traffic, when it is safest and to facilitate sexual encounters by arranging meeting times. The term cybercottage is used by some *** and bisexual men who use the role-play and nostalgia of cottaging in a virtual space or as a notice board to arrange real life anonymous sexual encounters.

Laud Humphrey's Tearoom Trade, published in 1970, was a sociological analysis and observance between the social space public restrooms offer for anonymous sex and the men€“either closeted, ***, or straight€“ who sought to fulfill sexual desires that their wives, religion, or social lives couldn't. The study, which was met with praise on one side due to its innovation and criticism on the other due to having outed "straight" men and risked their privacy, brought to light the multidimensionality of public restrooms and the intricacy and complexity of homosexual sex amongst self-identifying straight men.

Legal status:

Sexual acts in public lavatories are outlawed by many jurisdictions. It is likely that the element of risk involved in cottaging makes it an attractive activity to some.

Historically in the United Kingdom, public *** sex often resulted in a charge and conviction of gross indecency, an offence only pertaining to sexual acts committed by males and particularly applied to homosexual activity. Anal penetration was a separate and much more serious crime that came under the definition of buggery. Buggery was a capital offence between 1533 and 1861 under UK law, although it rarely resulted in death penalty. Importuning was an offer of a sexual gratification between men, often for money. The Sexual Offences Act 1967 permitted homosexual sex between consenting adults over 21 years of age when conducted in private. The act specifically excluded public lavatories from being "private". The Sexual Offences Act 2003 eventually removed this contentious offence in favour of "indecent exposure".

In many of the cases where people are brought to court for cottaging, the issue of entrapment arises. Since the offences are public but often carried out behind closed doors, the police have found it easier to use undercover police officers who would frequent toilets posing as homosexuals in an effort to entice other men to approach them for sex. These men would then be arrested for indecent assault. Such practices were severely curtailed after a judge decided the police officer in the case had consented to the assault if he had desired and required the defendant to touch him with sexual intent in order to have evidence of a crime.[citation needed] Alternatively, they were arrested for importuning, with a much lower burden of proof and shorter maximum sentence..."

</>

Janet wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > The recent posts on crumpets got me thinking that I had not made
> > > them for a few months. They seemed like a good idea for a cold,
> > > wintry morning. Since my new JoC doesn't have a crumpet recipe I
> > > went online and printed on up. It was a little different from
> > > the old on. It called for activated yeast. I only had fast
> > > acting, so it was going to have to do. Maybe it was too old, but
> > > the yeast just never really worked much. The batter was much
> > > denser than my old recipe. It glooped out slowly and over filled
> > > the rings. The never developed the nooks and crannies that are
> > > the hallmark of crumpets. They tasted okay but the texture was a
> > > flop.
> >
> > I made them once as a child. Having never eaten them before, I
> > wasn't sure if they came out correctly or not. I did buy one once
> > at a crumpet place at Pike Place market.
>
> Somehow I find it hard to imagine "a crumpet place" exists in
> USA. Certainly not in UK.
>
>
Nope but I had fun looking them up! Not at all what my mind wanted to
say they were. I was imagining something a bit closer to a croisannt.

Silly me! At least I looked them up. I have a vague recollection of
them being served in Tea House in San Diego in La Mesa. I never got
any there, only that it was a unique thing to the area.

Sqwertz wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 16:24:24 -0000, Janet wrote:
>
> > In article 8>,
> > says...
> >
> >> There is (or was) an English tea room here in Phoenix. Among a
> fairly >> nice selection of items on their menu, crumpets were on it
> and they >> were like those I was served in someone's home in
> England. The tea >> room was some disance from where we now live, so
> have not been back in >> several years.
> >
> > "A crumpet place" suggests it specialises in one thing.
> > Crumpets. Even in UK, we don't have unique outlets selling just
> > crumpets.
>
> Since 1976.
>
> https://thecrumpetshop.com/
>
> -sw

The also do scones, lots of teas and coffees. Looks interesting!

On 2018-12-10 8:11 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> Janet wrote:
>
..>>> the hal
>>> I made them once as a child. Having never eaten them before, I
>>> wasn't sure if they came out correctly or not. I did buy one once
>>> at a crumpet place at Pike Place market.
>>
>> Somehow I find it hard to imagine "a crumpet place" exists in
>> USA. Certainly not in UK.
>>
>>
> Nope but I had fun looking them up! Not at all what my mind wanted to
> say they were. I was imagining something a bit closer to a croisannt.
>
> Silly me! At least I looked them up. I have a vague recollection of
> them being served in Tea House in San Diego in La Mesa. I never got
> any there, only that it was a unique thing to the area.
>




Ah.... I see. When the topic of crumpets appeared she Googled and found
the only crumpet shop around, which happens to be not too far from where
she lives now. She checked out the menu and saw that this unique chop
sells savory crumpets with eggs on top. Hence the egg issue.

On 2018-12-10 11:52 a.m., Janet wrote:
> In article 8>,
> says...
>> Ah, I found it!
>>
>> https://carefreetea.com/our-menu/
>
> Nice tea room, but neither you or I would call it "a crumpet place".
>
> I am amazed to see this
>
> https://carefreetea.com/etiquette-classes/
>
>
> "Etiquette Classes
>
> Trained by the American School of Protocol in Atlanta, Georgia, Jo
> Gemmill, the Owner of the English Rose Tea Room, is a qualified
> children?s etiquette instructor and offers classes on table manners, tea
> party manners and general etiquette.
>
> Classes are held at the Tea Room from 3.30pm to 5.00pm for groups of 6-
> 12 children.
>
> Subjects covered in the class include:
>
> How to set the table
> Correct use of the knife and fork
> Use of the napkin
> Manners at the table
> Tea party manners"
>
> $40 dollars per child !!!!!!
>
> Damn; to think I've been doing it for free all these years.
>
>

There is probably an app that they can watch on their phones while the
big people talk.

On 2018-12-10 12:19 p.m., Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Mon 10 Dec 2018 09:24:24a, Janet told us...
>> "A crumpet place" suggests it specialises in one thing.
>> Crumpets.
>> Even in UK, we don't have unique outlets selling just crumpets.
>>
>> She didn't say "tea room" , "cafe" "cake shop".. the kind of
>> places
>> where crumpets might be one of the items on the menu.
>>
>> Janet UK
>>
>>
>>
>
> Whatever. I'd be highly suspicious of anthing Julie says. Saying
> something is "a crumpet place" could mean more than just selling
> crumpets exclusively. Here in the US there are rarely any shops that
> sell only one type of item. At one time doughnut shops usually only
> sold donuts. Now most of them also sell muffins (more like cupcakes)
> and other baked goods. There's no telling what that shop also might
> have sold.
>

I think I solved the mystery. She checked on line and it turned out
that there is a crumpet shop, possibly the one and only one, and it is
not too far from where she now lives. She checked their menu, saw that
they sell savory crumpets with egg on top and then she had a reason not
to eat them.

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 22:19:06 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-12-10 8:11 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>>>
>> Nope but I had fun looking them up! Not at all what my mind wanted to
>> say they were. I was imagining something a bit closer to a croisannt.
>>
>> Silly me! At least I looked them up. I have a vague recollection of
>> them being served in Tea House in San Diego in La Mesa. I never got
>> any there, only that it was a unique thing to the area.
>>
>Ah.... I see. When the topic of crumpets appeared she Googled and found
>the only crumpet shop around, which happens to be not too far from where
>she lives now. She checked out the menu and saw that this unique chop
>sells savory crumpets with eggs on top. Hence the egg issue.

I think, from now on, we should call you Petty Smith.

On 10 Dec 2018, Dave Smith wrote
(in article >):

> On 2018-12-10 11:24 a.m., Janet wrote:
> > In 6.35.198>,
> > says...
> > Certainly not in UK.
> > >
> > > There is (or was) an English tea room here in Phoenix. Among a fairly
> > > nice selection of items on their menu, crumpets were on it and they
> > > were like those I was served in someone's home in England. The tea
> > > room was some disance from where we now live, so have not been back in
> > > several years.
> >
> > "A crumpet place" suggests it specialises in one thing. Crumpets.
> > Even in UK, we don't have unique outlets selling just crumpets.
> >
> > She didn't say "tea room" , "cafe" "cake shop".. the kind of places
> > where crumpets might be one of the items on the menu.
>
> Maybe the eggy crumpets were the ruination of the crumpet place.

Maybe, and to confuse things even more; where I grew up in the UK they sold
€œpikelets€� which were crumpets made without using a ring to shape them.

They were larger in diameter and flatter, because the batter has a chance to
spread a little.

"Fruitiest of Fruitcakes" wrote in message
news.com...


Maybe, and to confuse things even more; where I grew up in the UK they sold
€œpikelets€� which were crumpets made without using a ring to shape them.

They were larger in diameter and flatter, because the batter has a chance to
spread a little.

==

Hey I have had pikelets in my mind too during this discussion Are they
still sold in England?

I haven't seen them up here though.

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 5:44:57 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "Fruitiest of Fruitcakes" wrote in message
> news.com...
>
>
> Maybe, and to confuse things even more; where I grew up in the UK they sold
> €œpikelets€� which were crumpets made without using a ring to shape them.
>
> They were larger in diameter and flatter, because the batter has a chance to
> spread a little.
>
> ==
>
> Hey I have had pikelets in my mind too during this discussion Are they
> still sold in England?
>
> I haven't seen them up here though.


Pikelets? Curiouser and curiouser!

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 5:44:57 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "Fruitiest of Fruitcakes" wrote in message
> news.com...
>
>
> Maybe, and to confuse things even more; where I grew up in the UK they
> sold
> €œpikelets€� which were crumpets made without using a ring to shape them.
>
> They were larger in diameter and flatter, because the batter has a chance
> to
> spread a little.
>
> ==
>
> Hey I have had pikelets in my mind too during this discussion Are they
> still sold in England?
>
> I haven't seen them up here though.


Pikelets? Curiouser and curiouser!

===

We had them when we were kids))

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=pi...hrome&ie=UTF-8

Is a crumpet the same as a pikelet?

Essentially, the main difference is that a pikelet is not cooked in a ring
like a crumpet, hence why it is thinner and more freeform in shape. Crumpets
were originally hard, it was not until the Victorian era that they became
soft and spongy as we know them today.5 Jun 2015

Just as fruity explained)

On 11 Dec 2018, Ophelia wrote
(in article >):

>
> "Fruitiest of Fruitcakes" wrote in message
> news.com...
>
> Maybe, and to confuse things even more; where I grew up in the UK they sold
> €œpikelets€� which were crumpets made without using a ring to shape them.
>
> They were larger in diameter and flatter, because the batter has a chance to
> spread a little.
>
> ==
>
> Hey I have had pikelets in my mind too during this discussion Are they
> still sold in England?

Sainsburys and Tescos seem to have them

http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/tesco-price-
comparison/Patisserie/Sainsburys_Pikelets_6.html

>
>
> I haven't seen them up here though.

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 7:19:40 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 5:44:57 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "Fruitiest of Fruitcakes" wrote in message
> > news.com...
> >
> >
> > Maybe, and to confuse things even more; where I grew up in the UK they
> > sold
> > €œpikelets€� which were crumpets made without using a ring to shape them.
> >
> > They were larger in diameter and flatter, because the batter has a chance
> > to
> > spread a little.
> >
> > ==
> >
> > Hey I have had pikelets in my mind too during this discussion Are they
> > still sold in England?
> >
> > I haven't seen them up here though.
>
>
> Pikelets? Curiouser and curiouser!
>
> ===
>
> We had them when we were kids))
>
> https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=pi...hrome&ie=UTF-8
>
> Is a crumpet the same as a pikelet?
>
> Essentially, the main difference is that a pikelet is not cooked in a ring
> like a crumpet, hence why it is thinner and more freeform in shape. Crumpets
> were originally hard, it was not until the Victorian era that they became
> soft and spongy as we know them today.5 Jun 2015
>
> Just as fruity explained)

Thank you thank you! That looks a lot like our pancakes. My plan was to make crumpets this morning but I had to buy an oil filter for my Jeep and get it running. Then I just hurried out to drive to work. I completely forgot about the yeast dough sitting on the stove. It ought to be really light and bubbly when I get back! The idea of a double leavened dough is certainly an intriguing idea. I intend to be a master crumpeteer.