Just wanted to wish a nice day to ALL vets* past and present
today. It's a giant team effort to do what you all do so well.
From actual front-line combat and all the way down to the lowest
support position. All are important. You do a damn good job and
keep up the good work.

I've lived right under the main flight path of Oceana Naval Air
Station here for many years. So many neighbors complain about the
jet noise when they fly. It's very loud but I ignore it.
(sometimes you have to pause a conversation until the jets pass -
always 2...one craft plus wingman). These are our Navy's fighter
jets. Used to use F-14s but now all fly F-18s. I admire every
damn one of them and when someone whines about the noise, I smile
and say, "We're protected here night and day." heh

Despite all the 'anti military' nonsense that you might hear,
just know that probably the majority of us support it fully. Tax
money for Defense is well spent, imo. You DO really need to carry
a 'big stick' in this evil world.

I've always even included my father in this day too. He was never
in the military but he worked his entire career for the Defense
Dept. Still very much part of the entire team effort.

* Ok, even you non-related animal vets get a kudos from me. Great
job to all of you too! ;-D

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Just wanted to wish a nice day to ALL vets* past and present
> today. It's a giant team effort to do what you all do so well.
> From actual front-line combat and all the way down to the lowest
> support position. All are important. You do a damn good job and
> keep up the good work.
>
> I've lived right under the main flight path of Oceana Naval Air
> Station here for many years. So many neighbors complain about the
> jet noise when they fly. It's very loud but I ignore it.
> (sometimes you have to pause a conversation until the jets pass -
> always 2...one craft plus wingman). These are our Navy's fighter
> jets. Used to use F-14s but now all fly F-18s. I admire every
> damn one of them and when someone whines about the noise, I smile
> and say, "We're protected here night and day." heh
>
> Despite all the 'anti military' nonsense that you might hear,
> just know that probably the majority of us support it fully. Tax
> money for Defense is well spent, imo. You DO really need to carry
> a 'big stick' in this evil world.
>
> I've always even included my father in this day too. He was never
> in the military but he worked his entire career for the Defense
> Dept. Still very much part of the entire team effort.
>
> * Ok, even you non-related animal vets get a kudos from me. Great
> job to all of you too! ;-D


Well said Gary, a huge thank you to all who served, hopefully the day is
peaceful for them.

Cheri

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 08:06:00 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Gary" > wrote in message ...
>> Just wanted to wish a nice day to ALL vets* past and present
>> today. It's a giant team effort to do what you all do so well.
>> From actual front-line combat and all the way down to the lowest
>> support position. All are important. You do a damn good job and
>> keep up the good work.
>>
>> I've lived right under the main flight path of Oceana Naval Air
>> Station here for many years. So many neighbors complain about the
>> jet noise when they fly. It's very loud but I ignore it.
>> (sometimes you have to pause a conversation until the jets pass -
>> always 2...one craft plus wingman). These are our Navy's fighter
>> jets. Used to use F-14s but now all fly F-18s. I admire every
>> damn one of them and when someone whines about the noise, I smile
>> and say, "We're protected here night and day." heh
>>
>> Despite all the 'anti military' nonsense that you might hear,
>> just know that probably the majority of us support it fully. Tax
>> money for Defense is well spent, imo. You DO really need to carry
>> a 'big stick' in this evil world.
>>
>> I've always even included my father in this day too. He was never
>> in the military but he worked his entire career for the Defense
>> Dept. Still very much part of the entire team effort.
>>
>> * Ok, even you non-related animal vets get a kudos from me. Great
>> job to all of you too! ;-D
>
>
>Well said Gary, a huge thank you to all who served, hopefully the day is
>peaceful for them.

You're welcome.

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Just wanted to wish a nice day to ALL vets* past and present
today. It's a giant team effort to do what you all do so well.
From actual front-line combat and all the way down to the lowest
support position. All are important. You do a damn good job and
keep up the good work.

I've lived right under the main flight path of Oceana Naval Air
Station here for many years. So many neighbors complain about the
jet noise when they fly. It's very loud but I ignore it.
(sometimes you have to pause a conversation until the jets pass -
always 2...one craft plus wingman). These are our Navy's fighter
jets. Used to use F-14s but now all fly F-18s. I admire every
damn one of them and when someone whines about the noise, I smile
and say, "We're protected here night and day." heh

Despite all the 'anti military' nonsense that you might hear,
just know that probably the majority of us support it fully. Tax
money for Defense is well spent, imo. You DO really need to carry
a 'big stick' in this evil world.

I've always even included my father in this day too. He was never
in the military but he worked his entire career for the Defense
Dept. Still very much part of the entire team effort.

* Ok, even you non-related animal vets get a kudos from me. Great
job to all of you too! ;-D

==

From me too My husband served in the military for 22 years so I am very
grateful too.

Ophelia wrote:

> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>
> Just wanted to wish a nice day to ALL vets* past and present
> today. It's a giant team effort to do what you all do so well.
> From actual front-line combat and all the way down to the lowest
> support position. All are important. You do a damn good job and
> keep up the good work.
>
> I've lived right under the main flight path of Oceana Naval Air
> Station here for many years. So many neighbors complain about the
> jet noise when they fly. It's very loud but I ignore it.
> (sometimes you have to pause a conversation until the jets pass -
> always 2...one craft plus wingman). These are our Navy's fighter
> jets. Used to use F-14s but now all fly F-18s. I admire every
> damn one of them and when someone whines about the noise, I smile
> and say, "We're protected here night and day." heh
>
> Despite all the 'anti military' nonsense that you might hear,
> just know that probably the majority of us support it fully. Tax
> money for Defense is well spent, imo. You DO really need to carry
> a 'big stick' in this evil world.
>
> I've always even included my father in this day too. He was never
> in the military but he worked his entire career for the Defense
> Dept. Still very much part of the entire team effort.
>
> * Ok, even you non-related animal vets get a kudos from me. Great
> job to all of you too! ;-D
>
> ==
>
> From me too My husband served in the military for 22 years so I am very
> grateful too.


A big "thank you" to him *and* you from the bottom of my heart, Ms. O...

Over our lifetimes we've seen the benefit of a strong Western/NATO defence, specifically the collapse of the hated soviet empire - this happened without a shot being fired between NATO and the Warsaw Pact. We still have many tensions, but hundreds of millions now live better lives because of our combined Western military and ideological strengths...

Especially poignant that it's the centenary of the end of WWI (IMO a useless war that opened a Pandora's box of the 20th century demons of communism, fascism and nazism) - I know you in the UK have had many remembrances and celebrations this past few days...when I visited London years ago I visited The Cenotaph, very moving; I saw the Queen visited to pay her respects:

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-46169...tes-on-beaches

Here is an interesting article:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...erbert-hoover/

This is simply gobsmacking:

"...They fell in battles like that of the Somme, on whose very first day (July 1, 1916) the British army suffered 60,000 casualties, including 20,000 dead. They fell in 1917 at the terrible, three-month-long battle of Passchendaele, near the city of Ypres (now called Ieper) in western Belgium. Today, if you visit Ieper, you will find a building called the Menin Gate Memorial, on which are inscribed the names of more than 54,000 soldiers from Great Britain and the British Empire who died in nearby battles between 1914 and 1917 and whose bodies were never found..."

--
Best
Greg

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:18:02 -0800 (PST), GM
> wrote:

>Ophelia wrote:
>
>> "Gary" wrote in message ...

<schmaltzy spiel by Gary>

>> ==
>>
>> From me too My husband served in the military for 22 years so I am very
>> grateful too.
>
>
>A big "thank you" to him *and* you from the bottom of my heart, Ms. O...

Shall we pull out our lighters and sing a couple of national anthems?
You know you want to!

"GM" wrote in message
...

Ophelia wrote:

> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>
> Just wanted to wish a nice day to ALL vets* past and present
> today. It's a giant team effort to do what you all do so well.
> From actual front-line combat and all the way down to the lowest
> support position. All are important. You do a damn good job and
> keep up the good work.
>
> I've lived right under the main flight path of Oceana Naval Air
> Station here for many years. So many neighbors complain about the
> jet noise when they fly. It's very loud but I ignore it.
> (sometimes you have to pause a conversation until the jets pass -
> always 2...one craft plus wingman). These are our Navy's fighter
> jets. Used to use F-14s but now all fly F-18s. I admire every
> damn one of them and when someone whines about the noise, I smile
> and say, "We're protected here night and day." heh
>
> Despite all the 'anti military' nonsense that you might hear,
> just know that probably the majority of us support it fully. Tax
> money for Defense is well spent, imo. You DO really need to carry
> a 'big stick' in this evil world.
>
> I've always even included my father in this day too. He was never
> in the military but he worked his entire career for the Defense
> Dept. Still very much part of the entire team effort.
>
> * Ok, even you non-related animal vets get a kudos from me. Great
> job to all of you too! ;-D
>
> ==
>
> From me too My husband served in the military for 22 years so I am very
> grateful too.


A big "thank you" to him *and* you from the bottom of my heart, Ms. O...
Over our lifetimes we've seen the benefit of a strong Western/NATO defence,
specifically the collapse of the hated soviet empire - this happened without
a shot being fired between NATO and the Warsaw Pact. We still have many
tensions, but hundreds of millions now live better lives because of our
combined Western military and ideological strengths...

Especially poignant that it's the centenary of the end of WWI (IMO a useless
war that opened a Pandora's box of the 20th century demons of communism,
fascism and nazism) - I know you in the UK have had many remembrances and
celebrations this past few days...when I visited London years ago I visited
The Cenotaph, very moving; I saw the Queen visited to pay her respects:

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-46169...tes-on-beaches

Here is an interesting article:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...erbert-hoover/

This is simply gobsmacking:

"...They fell in battles like that of the Somme, on whose very first day
(July 1, 1916) the British army suffered 60,000 casualties, including 20,000
dead. They fell in 1917 at the terrible, three-month-long battle of
Passchendaele, near the city of Ypres (now called Ieper) in western Belgium.
Today, if you visit Ieper, you will find a building called the Menin Gate
Memorial, on which are inscribed the names of more than 54,000 soldiers from
Great Britain and the British Empire who died in nearby battles between 1914
and 1917 and whose bodies were never found..."

Best
Greg

====

Thank you, I have passed that on) I am very proud of him

D has served in many wars and conflicts. I am very lucky to still have him!

Many have lost their lives in service of their country. It is heart
breaking for those families.

On Sunday, 11 November 2018 09:13:11 UTC-6, Gary wrote:
> Just wanted to wish a nice day to ALL vets* past and present
> today. It's a giant team effort to do what you all do so well.
> From actual front-line combat and all the way down to the lowest
> support position. All are important. You do a damn good job and
> keep up the good work.
>
> I've lived right under the main flight path of Oceana Naval Air
> Station here for many years. So many neighbors complain about the
> jet noise when they fly. It's very loud but I ignore it.
> (sometimes you have to pause a conversation until the jets pass -
> always 2...one craft plus wingman). These are our Navy's fighter
> jets. Used to use F-14s but now all fly F-18s. I admire every
> damn one of them and when someone whines about the noise, I smile
> and say, "We're protected here night and day." heh
>
> Despite all the 'anti military' nonsense that you might hear,
> just know that probably the majority of us support it fully. Tax
> money for Defense is well spent, imo. You DO really need to carry
> a 'big stick' in this evil world.
>
> I've always even included my father in this day too. He was never
> in the military but he worked his entire career for the Defense
> Dept. Still very much part of the entire team effort.
>
> * Ok, even you non-related animal vets get a kudos from me. Great
> job to all of you too! ;-D


Thank you for your wise comments, Gary, I agree 1000%

Also, remember that the US military dispenses HUGE amounts of humanitarian aid all around the world, selflessly and with little fanfare. Wherever a tsumani or an earthquake or some other disaster hits, the US military is often first on the scene to dispense aid, succor, and comfort - AND WITHOUT CONDITIONS. Right now there is a US Navy hospital ship in Colombia, assisting that nation with the huge influx of desperate Venezuelan refugees escaping the ravages of "socialism":


https://www.voanews.com/a/venezuelan...n/4611605.html

"MIAMI €”

A dozen Venezuelan doctors volunteered to join the USNS Comfort as the Navy hospital ship visits three South American countries that are struggling to cope with a flood of migrants from crisis-wracked Venezuela.

The doctors all live in the United States, but they wanted to help fellow Venezuelans who have fled widespread shortages of food and medicine amid an economic collapse that has pushed millions of people into poverty.

"This is like a Band-Aid" that will provide only temporary relief, said Dr. Marco Bologna, a cardiologist who now lives in Florida, where he is a member of the Venezuelan American Medical Association. "But it is the right thing to do and it helps us to do something for our country."

The Comfort has been described as a threat by Venezuela's socialist government and it will not visit that country during its 11-week tour of Latin America. The ship sailed from Norfolk, Virginia, on Thursday.

It will spend several days at two Colombian ports, one of which is just a one-hour drive from the border with Venezuela. The ship will also dock at ports in Ecuador and Peru, two other nations that are now home to hundreds of thousands of struggling Venezuelans. It will wrap up its tour in the Central American country of Honduras.

U.S. officials said the itinerary was designed with several local needs in mind, including the plight of Venezuelan migrants who are desperately seeking health care. A report published this month by a group of Venezuelan civil society groups estimated 20,000 doctors have left Venezuela since 2012.

"Each of the countries that we will spot was closely consulted. We have worked closely with them to ensure that we are providing the right care, at the right time, and at the right locations," said Coast Guard Rear Adm. Steven Poullin, director of operations at the U.S. Southern Command. "Obviously one of the factors that we considered was the Venezuelan crisis and the opportunity to treat Venezuelan migrants."

750 patients a day

According to the United Nations, 1.9 million Venezuelans have left their country since 2015. The most recent migrants have little money for transport and many have been trying to reach their destinations on foot, in perilous journeys that can take several weeks.

The Venezuelan American Medical Association said it has been working with the Southern Command for several months to prepare the mission. It said more than 1,000 civilian doctors applied to serve on the ship, but there were spots for only a dozen volunteers on board the vessel, whose crew of 300 is made up mostly of Navy personnel.

One of the applicants who got left out was Gabriel Pinedo, a Venezuelan doctor who now delivers mail in Orlando, Florida, because he hasn't been able to have his degree validated in the United States.

Pinedo said he is currently applying for asylum in the U.S. and his lawyer told him that it would not be wise to leave the country. "It is frustrating not to be able to go," he said. "I already saw myself there."

The Comfort is equipped to attend to 750 patients a day during its South American journey and doctors on the ship will be able to perform 20 surgeries a day.

Sanctions on Venezuela

The ship's visit to South America comes just weeks after the U.S. put financial sanctions on Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro's wife. President Donald Trump has described Maduro as a dictator and said that "all options" are on the table when it comes to restoring democracy in Venezuela, including military intervention.

Venezuela's government allowed a Chinese hospital ship to visit the country in September, but it has refused humanitarian aid from Western countries, arguing that such offers are just ploys for meddling in the country's affairs.

The Venezuelan doctors on the Comfort said they would like to see officials open a "humanitarian channel" that would allow medicine and food to be delivered into the country regularly.

"What we are doing here has a limited scope," said Dr. Rafael Gottenger, a plastic surgeon on the mission. "But it is good to be able to help your people."

</>

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:12:33 -0500, Gary wrote:

> I've lived right under the main flight path of Oceana Naval Air
> Station here for many years. So many neighbors complain about the
> jet noise when they fly. It's very loud but I ignore it.

We have jets flying all over today. Just wish they'd let loose some
of those Tomahawks to make it more exciting.

-sw

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 13:59:04 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:12:33 -0500, Gary wrote:
>
>> I've lived right under the main flight path of Oceana Naval Air
>> Station here for many years. So many neighbors complain about the
>> jet noise when they fly. It's very loud but I ignore it.
>
>We have jets flying all over today. Just wish they'd let loose some
>of those Tomahawks to make it more exciting.

I bet lots of Texans are shooting at them.

Brice wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 13:59:04 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:12:33 -0500, Gary wrote:
>>
>>> I've lived right under the main flight path of Oceana Naval Air
>>> Station here for many years. So many neighbors complain about the
>>> jet noise when they fly. It's very loud but I ignore it.
>>
>> We have jets flying all over today. Just wish they'd let loose some
>> of those Tomahawks to make it more exciting.
>
> I bet lots of Texans are shooting at them.
>

You been to Texas a lot?

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 14:55:02 -0600, Hank Rogers >
wrote:

>Brice wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 13:59:04 -0600, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:12:33 -0500, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've lived right under the main flight path of Oceana Naval Air
>>>> Station here for many years. So many neighbors complain about the
>>>> jet noise when they fly. It's very loud but I ignore it.
>>>
>>> We have jets flying all over today. Just wish they'd let loose some
>>> of those Tomahawks to make it more exciting.
>>
>> I bet lots of Texans are shooting at them.
>>
>
>You been to Texas a lot?

Stick with Sheldon, dude. Stick with what you're good at.

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:12:33 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Just wanted to wish a nice day to ALL vets* past and present
>today. It's a giant team effort to do what you all do so well.

Lol, what do they do so well? They're sent to a hellhole, risk their
lives, come back traumatised half the time and the hellhole is still a
hellhole. Of course, this is the politicians' fault not the veterans'
fault.

(...)

>I've always even included my father in this day too. He was never
>in the military but he worked his entire career for the Defense
>Dept. Still very much part of the entire team effort.
>
>* Ok, even you non-related animal vets get a kudos from me. Great
>job to all of you too! ;-D

I pay Australian taxes. Part of that goes to Defense. Australia's an
ally of the US. Kudos to me too!