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"cshenk" wrote in message
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Ophelia wrote:

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>
> "cshenk" wrote in message
> ...
>
> jmcquown wrote:
>
> > On 9/30/2018 9:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > >
> > >
> >> "jmcquown" wrote in message
> >> ...
> > >
> >> On 9/29/2018 6:03 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> >> > On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote:
> >> > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne
> >> > > > Boatwright wrote:
> >> > > > > On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us...
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish they
> >> > > > > > wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side in the
> >> > > > > > dairy fridge.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Doris
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Where would you suggest they put it?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely
> >> > > > different colored boxes and easily distinguished from each
> >> > > > other.
> >> > > >
> >> > > Same thing here. I never buy unsalted butter. The salted
> >> > > butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and
> >> > > white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box. I suppose
> >> > > if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar with the
> >> > > store and wasn't paying attention they could grab what they
> >> > > don't want by mistake.
> >> >
> >> > And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and
> >> > can't see the words on the packages that well.
> >> >
> >> > I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size,
> >> > shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to read.
> >> >
> >> > Doris
> >> >
> >> Sorry! I've been wearing glasses since I was 12. I don't dare
> >> leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them.
> > >
> >> Jill
> > >
> >> ==
> > >
> >> Can't manage without mine either
> > >

> > I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses. Mine are
> > bi-focals. I only need the one pair for both distance vision and
> > reading. I used to have separate prescription sunglasses (distance
> > only) but I got tired of having to swap out my glasses when I went
> > outside (or was driving) then back inside. Transition lenses are
> > wonderful.
> >
> > Jill

>
> Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs. 1- Driving and
> general, bi-focal
>
> 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance) and 1 for
> driving and seeing the car console well.
>
> ===
>
> Mine one pair covers all those things!


Eventually, they no longer will.

==

Why on earth would they stop. I have my eyes checked fairly regularly and
if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same type of lenses but
stronger.


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On 9/30/2018 5:03 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "cshenk"* wrote in message
> ...
>
> Ophelia wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "cshenk"* wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> > On 9/30/2018 9:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> >> "jmcquown"* wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> > >
>> >> On 9/29/2018 6:03 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>> >> > On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote:
>> >> > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne
>> >> > > > Boatwright* wrote:
>> >> > > > > On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us...
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > > I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish they
>> >> > > > > > wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side in the
>> >> > > > > > dairy fridge.
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > Doris
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Where would you suggest they put it?
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely
>> >> > > > different* colored boxes and easily distinguished from each
>> >> > > > other.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > Same thing here.* I never buy unsalted butter.* The salted
>> >> > > butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and
>> >> > > white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box.* I suppose
>> >> > > if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar with the
>> >> > > store and wasn't paying attention they could grab what they
>> >> > > don't want by mistake.
>> >> >
>> >> > And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and
>> >> > can't see the words on the packages that well.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size,
>> >> > shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to read.
>> >> >
>> >> > Doris
>> >> >
>> >> Sorry!* I've been wearing glasses since I was 12.* I don't dare
>> >> leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them.
>> > >
>> >> Jill
>> > >
>> >> ==
>> > >
>> >> Can't manage without mine either
>> > >
>> > I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses.* Mine are
>> > bi-focals.** I only need the one pair for both distance vision and
>> > reading.* I used to have separate prescription sunglasses (distance
>> > only) but I got tired of having to swap out my glasses when I went
>> > outside (or was driving) then back inside.* Transition lenses are
>> > wonderful.
>> >
>> > Jill

>>
>> Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs.* 1- Driving and
>> general, bi-focal
>>
>> 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance) and 1 for
>> driving and seeing the car console well.
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Mine one pair covers all those things!

>
> Eventually, they no longer will.
>
> ==
>
> Why on earth would they stop.* I have my eyes checked fairly regularly
> and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same type of lenses but
> stronger.
>
>

I don't know why she's saying this. Of course if our eyesight worsens
we'll get a stronger prescription. We certainly won't need three
different types of eye glasses.

Jill
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On 9/30/2018 6:05 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 9/30/2018 5:03 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "cshenk"* wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "cshenk"* wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> > On 9/30/2018 9:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >> "jmcquown"* wrote in message
>>> >> ...
>>> > >
>>> >> On 9/29/2018 6:03 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>>> >> > On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown
>>> >> > > wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote:
>>> >> > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne
>>> >> > > > Boatwright* wrote:
>>> >> > > > > On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us...
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish they
>>> >> > > > > > wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side in the
>>> >> > > > > > dairy fridge.
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > Doris
>>> >> > > > > > >
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > > Where would you suggest they put it?
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely
>>> >> > > > different* colored boxes and easily distinguished from each
>>> >> > > > other.
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > Same thing here.* I never buy unsalted butter.* The salted
>>> >> > > butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and
>>> >> > > white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box.* I suppose
>>> >> > > if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar with the
>>> >> > > store and wasn't paying attention they could grab what they
>>> >> > > don't want by mistake.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and
>>> >> > can't see the words on the packages that well.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size,
>>> >> > shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to read.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Doris
>>> >> >
>>> >> Sorry!* I've been wearing glasses since I was 12.* I don't dare
>>> >> leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them.
>>> > >
>>> >> Jill
>>> > >
>>> >> ==
>>> > >
>>> >> Can't manage without mine either
>>> > >
>>> > I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses.* Mine are
>>> > bi-focals.** I only need the one pair for both distance vision and
>>> > reading.* I used to have separate prescription sunglasses (distance
>>> > only) but I got tired of having to swap out my glasses when I went
>>> > outside (or was driving) then back inside.* Transition lenses are
>>> > wonderful.
>>> >
>>> > Jill
>>>
>>> Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs.* 1- Driving and
>>> general, bi-focal
>>>
>>> 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance) and 1 for
>>> driving and seeing the car console well.
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> Mine one pair covers all those things!

>>
>> Eventually, they no longer will.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Why on earth would they stop.* I have my eyes checked fairly regularly
>> and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same type of lenses
>> but stronger.
>>
>>

> I don't know why she's saying this.* Of course if our eyesight worsens
> we'll get a stronger prescription.* We certainly won't need three
> different types of eye glasses.
>
> Jill

Glasses won't work any more is you develop cataracts. They are usually
easily corrected with laser surgery these days.
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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 9/30/2018 6:05 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 9/30/2018 5:03 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "cshenk" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "cshenk" wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> > On 9/30/2018 9:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >> "jmcquown" wrote in message
>>> >> ...
>>> > >
>>> >> On 9/29/2018 6:03 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>>> >> > On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown
>>> >> > > wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote:
>>> >> > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne
>>> >> > > > Boatwright wrote:
>>> >> > > > > On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us...
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish they
>>> >> > > > > > wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side in the
>>> >> > > > > > dairy fridge.
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > Doris
>>> >> > > > > > >
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > > Where would you suggest they put it?
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely
>>> >> > > > different colored boxes and easily distinguished from each
>>> >> > > > other.
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > Same thing here. I never buy unsalted butter. The salted
>>> >> > > butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and
>>> >> > > white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box. I suppose
>>> >> > > if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar with the
>>> >> > > store and wasn't paying attention they could grab what they
>>> >> > > don't want by mistake.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and
>>> >> > can't see the words on the packages that well.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size,
>>> >> > shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to read.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Doris
>>> >> >
>>> >> Sorry! I've been wearing glasses since I was 12. I don't dare
>>> >> leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them.
>>> > >
>>> >> Jill
>>> > >
>>> >> ==
>>> > >
>>> >> Can't manage without mine either
>>> > >
>>> > I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses. Mine are
>>> > bi-focals. I only need the one pair for both distance vision and
>>> > reading. I used to have separate prescription sunglasses (distance
>>> > only) but I got tired of having to swap out my glasses when I went
>>> > outside (or was driving) then back inside. Transition lenses are
>>> > wonderful.
>>> >
>>> > Jill
>>>
>>> Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs. 1- Driving and
>>> general, bi-focal
>>>
>>> 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance) and 1 for
>>> driving and seeing the car console well.
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> Mine one pair covers all those things!

>>
>> Eventually, they no longer will.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Why on earth would they stop. I have my eyes checked fairly regularly
>> and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same type of lenses but
>> stronger.
>>
>>

> I don't know why she's saying this. Of course if our eyesight worsens
> we'll get a stronger prescription. We certainly won't need three
> different types of eye glasses.
>
> Jill

Glasses won't work any more is you develop cataracts. They are usually
easily corrected with laser surgery these days.

==

Yes, I've had cataracts removed from both eyes but I am still wearing
varifocals.


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On 9/30/2018 9:37 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/30/2018 6:05 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 9/30/2018 5:03 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "cshenk"* wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "cshenk"* wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On 9/30/2018 9:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> >> "jmcquown"* wrote in message
>>>> >> ...
>>>> > >
>>>> >> On 9/29/2018 6:03 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>>>> >> > On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown
>>>> >> > > wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > > On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote:
>>>> >> > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne
>>>> >> > > > Boatwright* wrote:
>>>> >> > > > > On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us...
>>>> >> > > > >
>>>> >> > > > > > I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish they
>>>> >> > > > > > wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side in the
>>>> >> > > > > > dairy fridge.
>>>> >> > > > > >
>>>> >> > > > > > Doris
>>>> >> > > > > > >
>>>> >> > > > >
>>>> >> > > > > Where would you suggest they put it?
>>>> >> > > > >
>>>> >> > > > >
>>>> >> > > > The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely
>>>> >> > > > different* colored boxes and easily distinguished from each
>>>> >> > > > other.
>>>> >> > > >
>>>> >> > > Same thing here.* I never buy unsalted butter.* The salted
>>>> >> > > butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and
>>>> >> > > white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box.* I suppose
>>>> >> > > if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar with the
>>>> >> > > store and wasn't paying attention they could grab what they
>>>> >> > > don't want by mistake.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and
>>>> >> > can't see the words on the packages that well.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size,
>>>> >> > shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to read.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Doris
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> Sorry!* I've been wearing glasses since I was 12.* I don't dare
>>>> >> leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them.
>>>> > >
>>>> >> Jill
>>>> > >
>>>> >> ==
>>>> > >
>>>> >> Can't manage without mine either
>>>> > >
>>>> > I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses.* Mine are
>>>> > bi-focals.** I only need the one pair for both distance vision and
>>>> > reading.* I used to have separate prescription sunglasses (distance
>>>> > only) but I got tired of having to swap out my glasses when I went
>>>> > outside (or was driving) then back inside.* Transition lenses are
>>>> > wonderful.
>>>> >
>>>> > Jill
>>>>
>>>> Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs.* 1- Driving and
>>>> general, bi-focal
>>>>
>>>> 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance) and 1 for
>>>> driving and seeing the car console well.
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> Mine one pair covers all those things!
>>>
>>> Eventually, they no longer will.
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> Why on earth would they stop.* I have my eyes checked fairly
>>> regularly and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same type
>>> of lenses but stronger.
>>>
>>>

>> I don't know why she's saying this.* Of course if our eyesight worsens
>> we'll get a stronger prescription.* We certainly won't need three
>> different types of eye glasses.
>>
>> Jill

> Glasses won't work any more is you develop cataracts.* They are usually
> easily corrected with laser surgery these days.


If Carol was talking about cataracts why didn't she just say that?

Jill


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On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 18:06:17 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 9/30/2018 9:37 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 9/30/2018 6:05 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 9/30/2018 5:03 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "cshenk"* wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mine one pair covers all those things!
>>>>
>>>> Eventually, they no longer will.
>>>>
>>>> ==
>>>>
>>>> Why on earth would they stop.* I have my eyes checked fairly
>>>> regularly and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same type
>>>> of lenses but stronger.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I don't know why she's saying this.* Of course if our eyesight worsens
>>> we'll get a stronger prescription.* We certainly won't need three
>>> different types of eye glasses.
>>>
>>> Jill

>> Glasses won't work any more is you develop cataracts.* They are usually
>> easily corrected with laser surgery these days.

>
>If Carol was talking about cataracts why didn't she just say that?


If Jill wants to know that, why doesn't she just ask her?
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On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 08:11:13 +1000, Brice >
wrote:

>On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 18:06:17 -0400, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>>On 9/30/2018 9:37 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 9/30/2018 6:05 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 9/30/2018 5:03 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "cshenk"* wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mine one pair covers all those things!
>>>>>
>>>>> Eventually, they no longer will.
>>>>>
>>>>> ==
>>>>>
>>>>> Why on earth would they stop.* I have my eyes checked fairly
>>>>> regularly and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same type
>>>>> of lenses but stronger.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I don't know why she's saying this.* Of course if our eyesight worsens
>>>> we'll get a stronger prescription.* We certainly won't need three
>>>> different types of eye glasses.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>> Glasses won't work any more is you develop cataracts.* They are usually
>>> easily corrected with laser surgery these days.

>>
>>If Carol was talking about cataracts why didn't she just say that?

>
>If Jill wants to know that, why doesn't she just ask her?


Cataracts are not treated by laser surgery, they draw the cataract
material out with a needle then insert a soft, plastic lens (just like
the ones you can take in and out) under the cornea.

Lasik or laser surgery helps with near sightedness.
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On 10/3/2018 7:01 PM, wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 08:11:13 +1000, Brice >
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 18:06:17 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/30/2018 9:37 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 9/30/2018 6:05 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 9/30/2018 5:03 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "cshenk"* wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mine one pair covers all those things!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eventually, they no longer will.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why on earth would they stop.* I have my eyes checked fairly
>>>>>> regularly and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same type
>>>>>> of lenses but stronger.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know why she's saying this.* Of course if our eyesight worsens
>>>>> we'll get a stronger prescription.* We certainly won't need three
>>>>> different types of eye glasses.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>> Glasses won't work any more is you develop cataracts.* They are usually
>>>> easily corrected with laser surgery these days.
>>>
>>> If Carol was talking about cataracts why didn't she just say that?

>>
>> If Jill wants to know that, why doesn't she just ask her?

>
> Cataracts are not treated by laser surgery, they draw the cataract
> material out with a needle then insert a soft, plastic lens (just like
> the ones you can take in and out) under the cornea.
>
> Lasik or laser surgery helps with near sightedness.
>

I didn't ask how cataracts are treated. Somone way upthread said
glasses won't work anymore if you develop cataracts, an extrapolation of
what Carol perhaps saying. I replied if that's what she was talking
about why didn't she just say so? Brice/Bruce/Fidiot said why don't I
just ask her? I did. And he replied and you replied. Yada yada yada.

I simply didn't understand what she was talking about. I do know I
don't have this eyesight condition where she needs three pairs of
glasses for driving, distance, seeing the dashboard of the car and also
reading a book. I'm grateful my eyes have never been that bad.

My point really was she can't say *everyone* is going to have that issue.

But then again, I thought we were talking about butter. Heh.

Jill

Jill
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In article >,
says...


> Cataracts are not treated by laser surgery,


They can be.


> they draw the cataract
> material out with a needle then insert a soft, plastic lens (just like
> the ones you can take in and out) under the cornea.



https://www.aao.org/eye-health/disea...aser-assisted-
cataract-surgery

"How is laser-assisted cataract surgery done?

With laser-assisted cataract surgery, a camera/ultrasound imaging device
is placed over your eye to map its surface and gather information about
the lens. The device sends detailed information to a computer that
programs the laser for the exact location, size and depth of the
incisions. The surgeon uses the laser to make the corneal incision and
the opening in the lens capsule. Energy from the laser may also be used
to soften the cataract. Then the ultrasound probe used in traditional
cataract surgery is used to break the lens into pieces and suction them
out of the eye. The IOL is implanted. As with traditional cataract
surgery, the corneal incision usually does not require stitches.
Who can be offered laser-assisted cataract surgery?

Under today?s Medicare guidelines, only certain patients may be offered
laser-assisted cataract surgery.

Specifically, your ophthalmologist can offer it if you have astigmatism
diagnosed during your cataract consultation and would like to have that
refractive error corrected during cataract surgery. In this situation,
the laser is used to create specific incisions in the cornea to reshape
it, treating the astigmatism.

You may also be offered laser cataract surgery if you choose to have a
premium lens implanted, such as an astigmatism-correcting toric IOL or a
multifocal IOL. Ophthalmologists who use laser cataract removal
technology explain that it allows them to see and map the lens capsule
better and place the opening in the capsule more precisely, allowing for
better centering of the IOL.

Janet.
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jmcquown wrote:

> On 9/30/2018 9:37 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 9/30/2018 6:05 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > > On 9/30/2018 5:03 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "cshenk"* wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > Ophelia wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "cshenk"* wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > >
> > > > > jmcquown wrote:
> > > > >
> >>>>> On 9/30/2018 9:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>> "jmcquown"* wrote in message
> >>>>>> ...
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>> On 9/29/2018 6:03 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> >>>>>> > On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown
> >>>>>> > > wrote:
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > > On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote:
> >>>>>> > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne
> >>>>>> > > > Boatwright* wrote:
> >>>>>> > > > > On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us...
> >>>>>> > > > >
> >>>>>> > > > > > I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish

> they >>>>>> > > > > > wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side
> in the >>>>>> > > > > > dairy fridge.
> >>>>>> > > > > >
> >>>>>> > > > > > Doris
> >>>>>> > > > > > >
> >>>>>> > > > >
> >>>>>> > > > > Where would you suggest they put it?
> >>>>>> > > > >
> >>>>>> > > > >
> >>>>>> > > > The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely
> >>>>>> > > > different* colored boxes and easily distinguished from

> each >>>>>> > > > other.
> >>>>>> > > >
> >>>>>> > > Same thing here.* I never buy unsalted butter.* The salted
> >>>>>> > > butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and
> >>>>>> > > white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box.* I

> suppose >>>>>> > > if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar
> with the >>>>>> > > store and wasn't paying attention they could grab
> what they >>>>>> > > don't want by mistake.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and
> >>>>>> > can't see the words on the packages that well.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size,
> >>>>>> > shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to

> read. >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Doris
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> Sorry!* I've been wearing glasses since I was 12.* I don't dare
> >>>>>> leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>> Jill
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>> ==
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>> Can't manage without mine either
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses.* Mine are
> >>>>> bi-focals.** I only need the one pair for both distance vision

> and >>>>> reading.* I used to have separate prescription sunglasses
> (distance >>>>> only) but I got tired of having to swap out my
> glasses when I went >>>>> outside (or was driving) then back inside.*
> Transition lenses are >>>>> wonderful.
> > > > > >
> >>>>> Jill
> > > > >
> > > > > Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs.* 1- Driving
> > > > > and general, bi-focal
> > > > >
> > > > > 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance)
> > > > > and 1 for driving and seeing the car console well.
> > > > >
> > > > > ===
> > > > >
> > > > > Mine one pair covers all those things!
> > > >
> > > > Eventually, they no longer will.
> > > >
> > > > ==
> > > >
> > > > Why on earth would they stop.* I have my eyes checked fairly
> > > > regularly and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same
> > > > type of lenses but stronger.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I don't know why she's saying this.* Of course if our eyesight
> > > worsens we'll get a stronger prescription.* We certainly won't
> > > need three different types of eye glasses.
> > >
> > > Jill

> > Glasses won't work any more is you develop cataracts.* They are
> > usually easily corrected with laser surgery these days.

>
> If Carol was talking about cataracts why didn't she just say that?
>
> Jill


Maybe because I don't have Cataracts?


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On 10/3/2018 7:09 PM, cshenk wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 9/30/2018 9:37 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 9/30/2018 6:05 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 9/30/2018 5:03 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "cshenk"* wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "cshenk"* wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/30/2018 9:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "jmcquown"* wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/29/2018 6:03 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne
>>>>>>>>>>> Boatwright* wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish

>> they >>>>>> > > > > > wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side
>> in the >>>>>> > > > > > dairy fridge.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doris
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Where would you suggest they put it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely
>>>>>>>>>>> different* colored boxes and easily distinguished from

>> each >>>>>> > > > other.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Same thing here.* I never buy unsalted butter.* The salted
>>>>>>>>>> butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and
>>>>>>>>>> white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box.* I

>> suppose >>>>>> > > if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar
>> with the >>>>>> > > store and wasn't paying attention they could grab
>> what they >>>>>> > > don't want by mistake.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and
>>>>>>>>> can't see the words on the packages that well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size,
>>>>>>>>> shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to

>> read. >>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> Doris
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry!* I've been wearing glasses since I was 12.* I don't dare
>>>>>>>> leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can't manage without mine either
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses.* Mine are
>>>>>>> bi-focals.** I only need the one pair for both distance vision

>> and >>>>> reading.* I used to have separate prescription sunglasses
>> (distance >>>>> only) but I got tired of having to swap out my
>> glasses when I went >>>>> outside (or was driving) then back inside.
>> Transition lenses are >>>>> wonderful.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs.* 1- Driving
>>>>>> and general, bi-focal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance)
>>>>>> and 1 for driving and seeing the car console well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mine one pair covers all those things!
>>>>>
>>>>> Eventually, they no longer will.
>>>>>
>>>>> ==
>>>>>
>>>>> Why on earth would they stop.* I have my eyes checked fairly
>>>>> regularly and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same
>>>>> type of lenses but stronger.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I don't know why she's saying this.* Of course if our eyesight
>>>> worsens we'll get a stronger prescription.* We certainly won't
>>>> need three different types of eye glasses.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>> Glasses won't work any more is you develop cataracts.* They are
>>> usually easily corrected with laser surgery these days.

>>
>> If Carol was talking about cataracts why didn't she just say that?
>>
>> Jill

>
> Maybe because I don't have Cataracts?
>

It was speculation because you hadn't said why you thought these types
of eyeglass lenses wouldn't work. Can't be surprised by that! Now
you've explained you have some sort of complex vision issues. Sorry,
Carol, but you made it sound like everyone would need new and three
pairs of glasses. A blanket statement. That's why I didn't understand
what you were talking about.

I'm sorry for you, but I doubt I will encounter the same situation.
Knock wood.

Jill
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jmcquown wrote:

> On 10/3/2018 7:09 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >
> >
> > Maybe because I don't have Cataracts?
> >

> It was speculation because you hadn't said why you thought these
> types of eyeglass lenses wouldn't work. Can't be surprised by that!
> Now you've explained you have some sort of complex vision issues.
> Sorry, Carol, but you made it sound like everyone would need new and
> three pairs of glasses. A blanket statement. That's why I didn't
> understand what you were talking about.
>
> I'm sorry for you, but I doubt I will encounter the same situation.
> Knock wood.
>
> Jill


Maybe is I trim out all the silly stuff others said and you can just
see me, it may help. I never said all wold need 3 pairs of glasses.
The only time the 3rd comes in is with issues with sunlight and that
comment is a side thread.

I never said i had cataracts. I do not.

What I have is a very common issue that causes one to lose both
distance and close vision at the same time. It can actually lead to
middle distance issues as well.

I am glad you have little personal experience with this as it means you
do not have to deal with it.

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jmcquown > wrote:
> On 9/30/2018 5:03 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "cshenk"* wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "cshenk"* wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/30/2018 9:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "jmcquown"* wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/29/2018 6:03 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne
>>>>>>>> Boatwright* wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish they
>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side in the
>>>>>>>>>> dairy fridge.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Doris
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Where would you suggest they put it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely
>>>>>>>> different* colored boxes and easily distinguished from each
>>>>>>>> other.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Same thing here.* I never buy unsalted butter.* The salted
>>>>>>> butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and
>>>>>>> white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box.* I suppose
>>>>>>> if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar with the
>>>>>>> store and wasn't paying attention they could grab what they
>>>>>>> don't want by mistake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and
>>>>>> can't see the words on the packages that well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size,
>>>>>> shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to read.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doris
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry!* I've been wearing glasses since I was 12.* I don't dare
>>>>> leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> ==
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't manage without mine either
>>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses.* Mine are
>>>> bi-focals.** I only need the one pair for both distance vision and
>>>> reading.* I used to have separate prescription sunglasses (distance
>>>> only) but I got tired of having to swap out my glasses when I went
>>>> outside (or was driving) then back inside.* Transition lenses are
>>>> wonderful.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs.* 1- Driving and
>>> general, bi-focal
>>>
>>> 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance) and 1 for
>>> driving and seeing the car console well.
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> Mine one pair covers all those things!

>>
>> Eventually, they no longer will.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Why on earth would they stop.* I have my eyes checked fairly regularly
>> and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same type of lenses but
>> stronger.
>>
>>

> I don't know why she's saying this. Of course if our eyesight worsens
> we'll get a stronger prescription. We certainly won't need three
> different types of eye glasses.
>
> Jill
>


I think Carol is talking about presbyopia, an inability to focus, which
affects most people over the age of 40. These are the reading glasses or
computer glasses shes talking about. Reading glasses dont make your
prescription stronger, they actually lower the power you need for those of
us who are nearsighted. For instance, Im -10.00 in one eye, but I need
magnification of +2.00 in order to read a dang menu in a dim restaurant, so
with readers, my prescription effectively becomes -8.00.
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"Jinx the Minx" wrote in message news
jmcquown > wrote:
> On 9/30/2018 5:03 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "cshenk" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "cshenk" wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/30/2018 9:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "jmcquown" wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/29/2018 6:03 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne
>>>>>>>> Boatwright wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish they
>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side in the
>>>>>>>>>> dairy fridge.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Doris
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Where would you suggest they put it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely
>>>>>>>> different colored boxes and easily distinguished from each
>>>>>>>> other.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Same thing here. I never buy unsalted butter. The salted
>>>>>>> butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and
>>>>>>> white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box. I suppose
>>>>>>> if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar with the
>>>>>>> store and wasn't paying attention they could grab what they
>>>>>>> don't want by mistake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and
>>>>>> can't see the words on the packages that well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size,
>>>>>> shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to read.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doris
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry! I've been wearing glasses since I was 12. I don't dare
>>>>> leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> ==
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't manage without mine either
>>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses. Mine are
>>>> bi-focals. I only need the one pair for both distance vision and
>>>> reading. I used to have separate prescription sunglasses (distance
>>>> only) but I got tired of having to swap out my glasses when I went
>>>> outside (or was driving) then back inside. Transition lenses are
>>>> wonderful.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs. 1- Driving and
>>> general, bi-focal
>>>
>>> 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance) and 1 for
>>> driving and seeing the car console well.
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> Mine one pair covers all those things!

>>
>> Eventually, they no longer will.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Why on earth would they stop. I have my eyes checked fairly regularly
>> and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same type of lenses but
>> stronger.
>>
>>

> I don't know why she's saying this. Of course if our eyesight worsens
> we'll get a stronger prescription. We certainly won't need three
> different types of eye glasses.
>
> Jill
>


I think Carol is talking about presbyopia, an inability to focus, which
affects most people over the age of 40. These are the reading glasses or
computer glasses shes talking about. Reading glasses dont make your
prescription stronger, they actually lower the power you need for those of
us who are nearsighted. For instance, Im -10.00 in one eye, but I need
magnification of +2.00 in order to read a dang menu in a dim restaurant, so
with readers, my prescription effectively becomes -8.00.

==

Interesting! I don't have a clue what my numbers are I just use the
same glasses for everything, except I have one prescription pair (exactly
the same as the others)
but shaded for wear in the sun. I can still read etc with them


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Jinx the Minx wrote:

> jmcquown > wrote:
> > On 9/30/2018 5:03 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> "cshenk"* wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >> Ophelia wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "cshenk"* wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >>> jmcquown wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 9/30/2018 9:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "jmcquown"* wrote in message
> >>>>> ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 9/29/2018 6:03 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown
> >>>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne
> >>>>>>>> Boatwright* wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish they
> >>>>>>>>>> wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side in the
> >>>>>>>>>> dairy fridge.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Doris
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Where would you suggest they put it?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely
> >>>>>>>> different* colored boxes and easily distinguished from each
> >>>>>>>> other.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Same thing here.* I never buy unsalted butter.* The salted
> >>>>>>> butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and
> >>>>>>> white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box.* I suppose
> >>>>>>> if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar with the
> >>>>>>> store and wasn't paying attention they could grab what they
> >>>>>>> don't want by mistake.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and
> >>>>>> can't see the words on the packages that well.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size,
> >>>>>> shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to

> read. >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Doris
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Sorry!* I've been wearing glasses since I was 12.* I don't dare
> >>>>> leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jill
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ==
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can't manage without mine either
> >>>>>
> >>>> I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses.* Mine are
> >>>> bi-focals.** I only need the one pair for both distance vision

> and >>>> reading.* I used to have separate prescription sunglasses
> (distance >>>> only) but I got tired of having to swap out my glasses
> when I went >>>> outside (or was driving) then back inside.*
> Transition lenses are >>>> wonderful.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jill
> >>>
> >>> Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs.* 1- Driving and
> >>> general, bi-focal
> >>>
> >>> 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance) and

> 1 for >>> driving and seeing the car console well.
> >>>
> >>> ===
> >>>
> >>> Mine one pair covers all those things!
> >>
> >> Eventually, they no longer will.
> >>
> >> ==
> >>
> >> Why on earth would they stop.* I have my eyes checked fairly

> regularly >> and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same
> type of lenses but >> stronger.
> >>
> >>

> > I don't know why she's saying this. Of course if our eyesight
> > worsens we'll get a stronger prescription. We certainly won't need
> > three different types of eye glasses.
> >
> > Jill
> >

>
> I think Carol is talking about presbyopia, an inability to focus,
> which affects most people over the age of 40. These are the
> reading glasses or computer glasses shes talking about. Reading
> glasses dont make your prescription stronger, they actually lower
> the power you need for those of us who are nearsighted. For
> instance, Im -10.00 in one eye, but I need magnification of +2.00 in
> order to read a dang menu in a dim restaurant, so with readers, my
> prescription effectively becomes -8.00.


Yes, I think that is what it is called.

Im my case, I have a prescription set that is a bifocal for driving and
regular distance things like a car dashboard.

I have a second set that is also a bi-focal and its medium and close
range. Those are specifically geared to working with compters and
spreadsheets (ie; specific to distance to monitor(s).

I have a 3rd set that I probably won't replace as they age out but they
are bi-focals with distance and close up. Mid range is fuzzy.

I tried but was not comfortable with the viewing area of tri-focals.

I am both near sighted and far sighted, or so is how it is described?
It's not technically both (at least I don't think it is technically
accurate), but that is what it 'feels like'. I also have astigmatisms.

The Navy told me I class as legally blind without my glasses but that
may be fairly common. I recall as I entered the Navy, thy took off my
glasses and spun me around then told me to read the wall chart. I had
to ask which wall it was on... (not entirely joking but had to squint
to read the first line). That was in my 20's and only lacked distance
vision then.


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On 10/1/2018 5:52 PM, cshenk wrote:

>
> The Navy told me I class as legally blind without my glasses but that
> may be fairly common. I recall as I entered the Navy, thy took off my
> glasses and spun me around then told me to read the wall chart. I had
> to ask which wall it was on... (not entirely joking but had to squint
> to read the first line). That was in my 20's and only lacked distance
> vision then.
>


I'm 20/400. Legally blind is 20/200, easy to achieve. The real
difference is, legally blind is when it cannot be corrected to better
than 20/200.

I always donate my old glasses to the Lions club and they give them to
people in poor countries. I wonder what it would be like for a native
to go through life very nearsighted and suddenly get a pair of
corrective lenses.

As an aside, you can have better than 2020 vision. Here are some other
facts
Levels of Vision
20/20 - Normal vision. Fighter pilot minimum. Required to read the stock
quotes in the newspaper, or numbers in the telephone book.

20/40 - Able to pass Driver's License Test in all 50 States. Most
printed material is at this level.
20/80 - Able to read alarm clock at 10 feet. News Headlines are this size.
20/200 - Legal blindness. Able to see STOP sign letters.
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On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 10:57:05 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 10/1/2018 5:52 PM, cshenk wrote:
>
>>
>> The Navy told me I class as legally blind without my glasses but that
>> may be fairly common. I recall as I entered the Navy, thy took off my
>> glasses and spun me around then told me to read the wall chart. I had
>> to ask which wall it was on... (not entirely joking but had to squint
>> to read the first line). That was in my 20's and only lacked distance
>> vision then.
>>

>
>I'm 20/400. Legally blind is 20/200, easy to achieve. The real
>difference is, legally blind is when it cannot be corrected to better
>than 20/200.
>
>I always donate my old glasses to the Lions club and they give them to
>people in poor countries. I wonder what it would be like for a native
>to go through life very nearsighted and suddenly get a pair of
>corrective lenses.
>
>As an aside, you can have better than 2020 vision. Here are some other
>facts
>Levels of Vision
>20/20 - Normal vision. Fighter pilot minimum. Required to read the stock
>quotes in the newspaper, or numbers in the telephone book.
>
>20/40 - Able to pass Driver's License Test in all 50 States. Most
>printed material is at this level.
>20/80 - Able to read alarm clock at 10 feet. News Headlines are this size.
>20/200 - Legal blindness. Able to see STOP sign letters.


I went in for my annual eye exam yesterday. I've cataract surgery in
both eyes. We discovered yesterday that my right eye is no longer
20/20 but has slipped to 20/30. Statistically it doesn't happen a lot
to people who have had cataract surgery but it does happen. I hope it
doesn't slip further.
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 10/1/2018 5:52 PM, cshenk wrote:
>
> >
> > The Navy told me I class as legally blind without my glasses but
> > that may be fairly common. I recall as I entered the Navy, thy
> > took off my glasses and spun me around then told me to read the
> > wall chart. I had to ask which wall it was on... (not entirely
> > joking but had to squint to read the first line). That was in my
> > 20's and only lacked distance vision then.
> >

>
> I'm 20/400. Legally blind is 20/200, easy to achieve. The real
> difference is, legally blind is when it cannot be corrected to better
> than 20/200.
>
> I always donate my old glasses to the Lions club and they give them
> to people in poor countries. I wonder what it would be like for a
> native to go through life very nearsighted and suddenly get a pair of
> corrective lenses.
>
> As an aside, you can have better than 2020 vision. Here are some
> other facts Levels of Vision
> 20/20 - Normal vision. Fighter pilot minimum. Required to read the
> stock quotes in the newspaper, or numbers in the telephone book.
>
> 20/40 - Able to pass Driver's License Test in all 50 States. Most
> printed material is at this level. 20/80 - Able to read alarm clock
> at 10 feet. News Headlines are this size. 20/200 - Legal blindness.
> Able to see STOP sign letters.


I know I'm not correctable to 20/20 but with glasses, pass the drivers
vision test.
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Ophelia wrote:

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>
> "cshenk" wrote in message
> ...
>
> Ophelia wrote:
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> >
> >
> > "cshenk" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >
> >> On 9/30/2018 9:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >>> "jmcquown" wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >> >
> >>> On 9/29/2018 6:03 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> >>> > On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown
> >>> > > wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote:
> >>> > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne
> >>> > > > Boatwright wrote:
> >>> > > > > On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us...
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > > I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish they
> >>> > > > > > wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side in the
> >>> > > > > > dairy fridge.
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > Doris
> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > Where would you suggest they put it?
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely
> >>> > > > different colored boxes and easily distinguished from each
> >>> > > > other.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > Same thing here. I never buy unsalted butter. The salted
> >>> > > butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and
> >>> > > white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box. I suppose
> >>> > > if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar with the
> >>> > > store and wasn't paying attention they could grab what they
> >>> > > don't want by mistake.
> >>> >
> >>> > And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and
> >>> > can't see the words on the packages that well.
> >>> >
> >>> > I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size,
> >>> > shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to

> read. >>> >
> >>> > Doris
> >>> >
> >>> Sorry! I've been wearing glasses since I was 12. I don't dare
> >>> leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them.
> >> >
> >>> Jill
> >> >
> >>> ==
> >> >
> >>> Can't manage without mine either
> >> >
> >> I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses. Mine are
> >> bi-focals. I only need the one pair for both distance vision and
> >> reading. I used to have separate prescription sunglasses (distance
> >> only) but I got tired of having to swap out my glasses when I went
> >> outside (or was driving) then back inside. Transition lenses are
> >> wonderful.
> > >
> >> Jill

> >
> > Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs. 1- Driving and
> > general, bi-focal
> >
> > 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance) and 1
> > for driving and seeing the car console well.
> >
> > ===
> >
> > Mine one pair covers all those things!

>
> Eventually, they no longer will.
>
> ==
>
> Why on earth would they stop. I have my eyes checked fairly
> regularly and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same type
> of lenses but stronger.


Eventually if you are near and far sighted enough, you end up needng 2
pairs to work well. That is all I meant. I am happy if neither of you
have vision isses to meet that difference.
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> >> On 9/30/2018 9:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
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> >> >
> >>> On 9/29/2018 6:03 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> >>> > On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown
> >>> > > wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote:
> >>> > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne
> >>> > > > Boatwright wrote:
> >>> > > > > On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us...
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > > I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish they
> >>> > > > > > wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side in the
> >>> > > > > > dairy fridge.
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > Doris
> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > Where would you suggest they put it?
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely
> >>> > > > different colored boxes and easily distinguished from each
> >>> > > > other.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > Same thing here. I never buy unsalted butter. The salted
> >>> > > butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and
> >>> > > white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box. I suppose
> >>> > > if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar with the
> >>> > > store and wasn't paying attention they could grab what they
> >>> > > don't want by mistake.
> >>> >
> >>> > And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and
> >>> > can't see the words on the packages that well.
> >>> >
> >>> > I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size,
> >>> > shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to

> read. >>> >
> >>> > Doris
> >>> >
> >>> Sorry! I've been wearing glasses since I was 12. I don't dare
> >>> leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them.
> >> >
> >>> Jill
> >> >
> >>> ==
> >> >
> >>> Can't manage without mine either
> >> >
> >> I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses. Mine are
> >> bi-focals. I only need the one pair for both distance vision and
> >> reading. I used to have separate prescription sunglasses (distance
> >> only) but I got tired of having to swap out my glasses when I went
> >> outside (or was driving) then back inside. Transition lenses are
> >> wonderful.
> > >
> >> Jill

> >
> > Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs. 1- Driving and
> > general, bi-focal
> >
> > 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance) and 1
> > for driving and seeing the car console well.
> >
> > ===
> >
> > Mine one pair covers all those things!

>
> Eventually, they no longer will.
>
> ==
>
> Why on earth would they stop. I have my eyes checked fairly
> regularly and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same type
> of lenses but stronger.


Eventually if you are near and far sighted enough, you end up needng 2
pairs to work well. That is all I meant. I am happy if neither of you
have vision isses to meet that difference.

==

Sorry, Carol but you are talking about way back in the day. That simply is
not necessary now.

Might I suggest (with respect) that you change your ophthalmologist?




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> >>>> >
> >>>> > > On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote:
> >>>> > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne
> >>>> > > > Boatwright wrote:
> >>>> > > > > On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us...
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish

> they >>>> > > > > > wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side in
> the >>>> > > > > > dairy fridge.
> >>>> > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > Doris
> >>>> > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > Where would you suggest they put it?
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely
> >>>> > > > different colored boxes and easily distinguished from each
> >>>> > > > other.
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > Same thing here. I never buy unsalted butter. The salted
> >>>> > > butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and
> >>>> > > white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box. I

> suppose >>>> > > if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar
> with the >>>> > > store and wasn't paying attention they could grab
> what they >>>> > > don't want by mistake.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and
> >>>> > can't see the words on the packages that well.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size,
> >>>> > shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to

> >read. >>> >
> >>>> > Doris
> >>>> >
> >>>> Sorry! I've been wearing glasses since I was 12. I don't dare
> >>>> leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them.
> >>> >
> >>>> Jill
> >>> >
> >>>> ==
> >>> >
> >>>> Can't manage without mine either
> >>> >
> >>> I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses. Mine are
> >>> bi-focals. I only need the one pair for both distance vision and
> >>> reading. I used to have separate prescription sunglasses

> (distance >>> only) but I got tired of having to swap out my glasses
> when I went >>> outside (or was driving) then back inside.
> Transition lenses are >>> wonderful.
> >> >
> >>> Jill
> > >
> >> Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs. 1- Driving and
> >> general, bi-focal
> > >
> >> 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance) and 1
> >> for driving and seeing the car console well.
> > >
> >> ===
> > >
> >> Mine one pair covers all those things!

> >
> > Eventually, they no longer will.
> >
> > ==
> >
> > Why on earth would they stop. I have my eyes checked fairly
> > regularly and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same type
> > of lenses but stronger.

>
> Eventually if you are near and far sighted enough, you end up needng 2
> pairs to work well. That is all I meant. I am happy if neither of
> you have vision isses to meet that difference.
>
> ==
>
> Sorry, Carol but you are talking about way back in the day. That
> simply is not necessary now.
>
> Might I suggest (with respect) that you change your ophthalmologist?


The message i posted today may help you understand it. I didn't adapt
to tri-focals well.
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> >>>> > > wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > > On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote:
> >>>> > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne
> >>>> > > > Boatwright wrote:
> >>>> > > > > On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us...
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish

> they >>>> > > > > > wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side in
> the >>>> > > > > > dairy fridge.
> >>>> > > > > >
> >>>> > > > > > Doris
> >>>> > > > > > >
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > > Where would you suggest they put it?
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > >
> >>>> > > > The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely
> >>>> > > > different colored boxes and easily distinguished from each
> >>>> > > > other.
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > Same thing here. I never buy unsalted butter. The salted
> >>>> > > butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and
> >>>> > > white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box. I

> suppose >>>> > > if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar
> with the >>>> > > store and wasn't paying attention they could grab
> what they >>>> > > don't want by mistake.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and
> >>>> > can't see the words on the packages that well.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size,
> >>>> > shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to

> >read. >>> >
> >>>> > Doris
> >>>> >
> >>>> Sorry! I've been wearing glasses since I was 12. I don't dare
> >>>> leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them.
> >>> >
> >>>> Jill
> >>> >
> >>>> ==
> >>> >
> >>>> Can't manage without mine either
> >>> >
> >>> I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses. Mine are
> >>> bi-focals. I only need the one pair for both distance vision and
> >>> reading. I used to have separate prescription sunglasses

> (distance >>> only) but I got tired of having to swap out my glasses
> when I went >>> outside (or was driving) then back inside.
> Transition lenses are >>> wonderful.
> >> >
> >>> Jill
> > >
> >> Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs. 1- Driving and
> >> general, bi-focal
> > >
> >> 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance) and 1
> >> for driving and seeing the car console well.
> > >
> >> ===
> > >
> >> Mine one pair covers all those things!

> >
> > Eventually, they no longer will.
> >
> > ==
> >
> > Why on earth would they stop. I have my eyes checked fairly
> > regularly and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same type
> > of lenses but stronger.

>
> Eventually if you are near and far sighted enough, you end up needng 2
> pairs to work well. That is all I meant. I am happy if neither of
> you have vision isses to meet that difference.
>
> ==
>
> Sorry, Carol but you are talking about way back in the day. That
> simply is not necessary now.
>
> Might I suggest (with respect) that you change your ophthalmologist?


The message i posted today may help you understand it. I didn't adapt
to tri-focals well.

==

No, not tri-focals but Varifocals. At least ask about them?


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> >>>>> > On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown
> >>>>> > > wrote:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > > On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote:
> >>>>> > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne
> >>>>> > > > Boatwright wrote:
> >>>>> > > > > On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us...
> >>>>> > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish

> >they >>>> > > > > > wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side in
> >the >>>> > > > > > dairy fridge.
> >>>>> > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > > Doris
> >>>>> > > > > > >
> >>>>> > > > >
> >>>>> > > > > Where would you suggest they put it?
> >>>>> > > > >
> >>>>> > > > >
> >>>>> > > > The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely
> >>>>> > > > different colored boxes and easily distinguished from

> each >>>>> > > > other.
> >>>>> > > >
> >>>>> > > Same thing here. I never buy unsalted butter. The salted
> >>>>> > > butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and
> >>>>> > > white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box. I

> >suppose >>>> > > if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar
> >with the >>>> > > store and wasn't paying attention they could grab
> >what they >>>> > > don't want by mistake.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and
> >>>>> > can't see the words on the packages that well.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size,
> >>>>> > shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to
> >>read. >>> >
> >>>>> > Doris
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> Sorry! I've been wearing glasses since I was 12. I don't dare
> >>>>> leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them.
> >>>> >
> >>>>> Jill
> >>>> >
> >>>>> ==
> >>>> >
> >>>>> Can't manage without mine either
> >>>> >
> >>>> I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses. Mine are
> >>>> bi-focals. I only need the one pair for both distance vision

> and >>>> reading. I used to have separate prescription sunglasses
> >(distance >>> only) but I got tired of having to swap out my glasses
> >when I went >>> outside (or was driving) then back inside.
> >Transition lenses are >>> wonderful.
> >>> >
> >>>> Jill
> >> >
> >>> Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs. 1- Driving and
> >>> general, bi-focal
> >> >
> >>> 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance) and 1
> >>> for driving and seeing the car console well.
> >> >
> >>> ===
> >> >
> >>> Mine one pair covers all those things!
> > >
> >> Eventually, they no longer will.
> > >
> >> ==
> > >
> >> Why on earth would they stop. I have my eyes checked fairly
> >> regularly and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same

> type >> of lenses but stronger.
> >
> > Eventually if you are near and far sighted enough, you end up
> > needng 2 pairs to work well. That is all I meant. I am happy if
> > neither of you have vision isses to meet that difference.
> >
> > ==
> >
> > Sorry, Carol but you are talking about way back in the day. That
> > simply is not necessary now.
> >
> > Might I suggest (with respect) that you change your ophthalmologist?

>
> The message i posted today may help you understand it. I didn't adapt
> to tri-focals well.
>
> ==
>
> No, not tri-focals but Varifocals. At least ask about them?


I do not adapt to 3 visual zones.
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>> >>>>> > On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown
>> >>>>> > > wrote:
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > > On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote:
>> >>>>> > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne
>> >>>>> > > > Boatwright wrote:
>> >>>>> > > > > On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us...
>> >>>>> > > > >
>> >>>>> > > > > > I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish
>> >they >>>> > > > > > wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side in
>> >the >>>> > > > > > dairy fridge.
>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>>> > > > > > Doris
>> >>>>> > > > > > >
>> >>>>> > > > >
>> >>>>> > > > > Where would you suggest they put it?
>> >>>>> > > > >
>> >>>>> > > > >
>> >>>>> > > > The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely
>> >>>>> > > > different colored boxes and easily distinguished from

>> each >>>>> > > > other.
>> >>>>> > > >
>> >>>>> > > Same thing here. I never buy unsalted butter. The salted
>> >>>>> > > butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and
>> >>>>> > > white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box. I
>> >suppose >>>> > > if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar
>> >with the >>>> > > store and wasn't paying attention they could grab
>> >what they >>>> > > don't want by mistake.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and
>> >>>>> > can't see the words on the packages that well.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size,
>> >>>>> > shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to
>> >>read. >>> >
>> >>>>> > Doris
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> Sorry! I've been wearing glasses since I was 12. I don't dare
>> >>>>> leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>> Jill
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>> ==
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>> Can't manage without mine either
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses. Mine are
>> >>>> bi-focals. I only need the one pair for both distance vision

>> and >>>> reading. I used to have separate prescription sunglasses
>> >(distance >>> only) but I got tired of having to swap out my glasses
>> >when I went >>> outside (or was driving) then back inside.
>> >Transition lenses are >>> wonderful.
>> >>> >
>> >>>> Jill
>> >> >
>> >>> Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs. 1- Driving and
>> >>> general, bi-focal
>> >> >
>> >>> 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance) and 1
>> >>> for driving and seeing the car console well.
>> >> >
>> >>> ===
>> >> >
>> >>> Mine one pair covers all those things!
>> > >
>> >> Eventually, they no longer will.
>> > >
>> >> ==
>> > >
>> >> Why on earth would they stop. I have my eyes checked fairly
>> >> regularly and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same

>> type >> of lenses but stronger.
>> >
>> > Eventually if you are near and far sighted enough, you end up
>> > needng 2 pairs to work well. That is all I meant. I am happy if
>> > neither of you have vision isses to meet that difference.
>> >
>> > ==
>> >
>> > Sorry, Carol but you are talking about way back in the day. That
>> > simply is not necessary now.
>> >
>> > Might I suggest (with respect) that you change your ophthalmologist?

>>
>> The message i posted today may help you understand it. I didn't adapt
>> to tri-focals well.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> No, not tri-focals but Varifocals. At least ask about them?

>
>I do not adapt to 3 visual zones.


there are not 3 visual zones, no zones, no more different than when
you were young and operating without glasses at all. Your eyes move
smoothly and pass through distance to close up
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2018 19:59:19 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>Ophelia wrote:
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>>
>>
>> "cshenk" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > "cshenk" wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >
>> > Ophelia wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >> "cshenk" wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> > >
>> >> Ophelia wrote:
>> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>> "cshenk" wrote in message
>> >>> ...
>> >> >
>> >>> jmcquown wrote:
>> >> >
>> >>>> On 9/30/2018 9:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>> "jmcquown" wrote in message
>> >>>>> ...
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>> On 9/29/2018 6:03 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>> >>>>> > On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:12:27 -0400, jmcquown
>> >>>>> > > wrote:
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > > On 9/29/2018 11:50 AM, wrote:
>> >>>>> > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:31:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne
>> >>>>> > > > Boatwright wrote:
>> >>>>> > > > > On Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:28:39p, Doris Night told us...
>> >>>>> > > > >
>> >>>>> > > > > > I've only ever bought it by accident. I really wish
>> >they >>>> > > > > > wouldn't put salted and unsalted side-by-side in
>> >the >>>> > > > > > dairy fridge.
>> >>>>> > > > > >
>> >>>>> > > > > > Doris
>> >>>>> > > > > > >
>> >>>>> > > > >
>> >>>>> > > > > Where would you suggest they put it?
>> >>>>> > > > >
>> >>>>> > > > >
>> >>>>> > > > The salted and unsalted butters here are in completely
>> >>>>> > > > different colored boxes and easily distinguished from

>> each >>>>> > > > other.
>> >>>>> > > >
>> >>>>> > > Same thing here. I never buy unsalted butter. The salted
>> >>>>> > > butter (1/4 lb. sticks, four to a box) comes in a brown and
>> >>>>> > > white box and the unsalted is a blue and white box. I
>> >suppose >>>> > > if someone isn't used to shopping or is unfamiliar
>> >with the >>>> > > store and wasn't paying attention they could grab
>> >what they >>>> > > don't want by mistake.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > And sometimes people don't have their correct glasses on, and
>> >>>>> > can't see the words on the packages that well.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > I have the same problem with shampoo/conditioner. Same size,
>> >>>>> > shape, and colour of bottle, with lettering that is hard to
>> >>read. >>> >
>> >>>>> > Doris
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> Sorry! I've been wearing glasses since I was 12. I don't dare
>> >>>>> leave the house (much less drive or shop) without them.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>> Jill
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>> ==
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>> Can't manage without mine either
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> I'm not sure what Doris means by "correct" glasses. Mine are
>> >>>> bi-focals. I only need the one pair for both distance vision

>> and >>>> reading. I used to have separate prescription sunglasses
>> >(distance >>> only) but I got tired of having to swap out my glasses
>> >when I went >>> outside (or was driving) then back inside.
>> >Transition lenses are >>> wonderful.
>> >>> >
>> >>>> Jill
>> >> >
>> >>> Jill, when you hit a level, you may need 3 pairs. 1- Driving and
>> >>> general, bi-focal
>> >> >
>> >>> 1 close up (computer) and general (but not driving distance) and 1
>> >>> for driving and seeing the car console well.
>> >> >
>> >>> ===
>> >> >
>> >>> Mine one pair covers all those things!
>> > >
>> >> Eventually, they no longer will.
>> > >
>> >> ==
>> > >
>> >> Why on earth would they stop. I have my eyes checked fairly
>> >> regularly and if I need stronger ones, I will just get the same

>> type >> of lenses but stronger.
>> >
>> > Eventually if you are near and far sighted enough, you end up
>> > needng 2 pairs to work well. That is all I meant. I am happy if
>> > neither of you have vision isses to meet that difference.
>> >
>> > ==
>> >
>> > Sorry, Carol but you are talking about way back in the day. That
>> > simply is not necessary now.
>> >
>> > Might I suggest (with respect) that you change your ophthalmologist?

>>
>> The message i posted today may help you understand it. I didn't adapt
>> to tri-focals well.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> No, not tri-focals but Varifocals. At least ask about them?

>
>I do not adapt to 3 visual zones.


Varilux lenses do not have separate zones, the zones are continuous
throughout, with the bottom portion for close reading and the upper
region for distance, with most viewing in the center portion. It can
take up to a week for one's eyes to adapt. Varilux employs no
lines/no separate lens portions... I love them... I hated bi/tri
focals.


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