Never mind the wire brush attacks, now we have a long rainy hot
summer and mushrooms are everywhere. One in my yard, I thought
someone lost a soccer ball over the fence.

So what do I see in the paper, record number of mushroom poisonings.
If you're going to eat something you found in your yard, at least
look it up first.

nancy

On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 4:17:10 PM UTC-5, Nancy Young wrote:
>
> Never mind the wire brush attacks, now we have a long rainy hot
> summer and mushrooms are everywhere. One in my yard, I thought
> someone lost a soccer ball over the fence.
>
> So what do I see in the paper, record number of mushroom poisonings.
> If you're going to eat something you found in your yard, at least
> look it up first.
>
> Nancy
>
I see those occasionally in my yard and I wouldn't dream of eating
them, though. Some are huge but this I haven't seen many.

On 8/25/2018 5:26 PM, wrote:
> On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 4:17:10 PM UTC-5, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>> Never mind the wire brush attacks, now we have a long rainy hot
>> summer and mushrooms are everywhere. One in my yard, I thought
>> someone lost a soccer ball over the fence.
>>
>> So what do I see in the paper, record number of mushroom poisonings.
>> If you're going to eat something you found in your yard, at least
>> look it up first.

> I see those occasionally in my yard and I wouldn't dream of eating
> them, though. Some are huge but this I haven't seen many.

I always joke, hey, free dinner but I wouldn't dream of eating
random mushrooms. Seems like even people who know about them
can be fooled.

nancy

On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 17:34:04 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote:

>On 8/25/2018 5:26 PM, wrote:
>> On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 4:17:10 PM UTC-5, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>
>>> Never mind the wire brush attacks, now we have a long rainy hot
>>> summer and mushrooms are everywhere. One in my yard, I thought
>>> someone lost a soccer ball over the fence.
>>>
>>> So what do I see in the paper, record number of mushroom poisonings.
>>> If you're going to eat something you found in your yard, at least
>>> look it up first.
>
>> I see those occasionally in my yard and I wouldn't dream of eating
>> them, though. Some are huge but this I haven't seen many.
>
>I always joke, hey, free dinner but I wouldn't dream of eating
>random mushrooms. Seems like even people who know about them
>can be fooled.

Our Tasmanian neighbours used to eat field mushrooms from their
paddocks. They'd been doing that for generations. I once brought them
a mushroom I found, to ask if it was edible. He looked at me in
disgust, threw it in the fireplace and said "That's not a mushroom.
That's a toadstool!"

On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 22:08:53 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Sat 25 Aug 2018 02:17:05p, Nancy Young told us...
>
>> Never mind the wire brush attacks, now we have a long rainy hot
>> summer and mushrooms are everywhere. One in my yard, I thought
>> someone lost a soccer ball over the fence.
>>
>> So what do I see in the paper, record number of mushroom
>> poisonings. If you're going to eat something you found in your
>> yard, at least look it up first.
>>
>> nancy
>>
>
>I'm no mushroom expert, for the simple rason that I have no idea
>what might be poisonous

Another Sherlock moment in RFC!

On 8/25/2018 6:08 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>
> I'm no mushroom expert, for the simple rason that I have no idea
> what might be poisonous, and I have no desire to study the types in
> order to find out. Besides the vast array of mushrooms in
> supermarkets, and a nearby mushroom farm (in a cave), I will only
> buy mshrooms that are definiely save to consume. Besides the fresh
> muchrooms I buy, I also have a great source for imported EUropean
> dried mushrooms.
>

I find it easy to tell the edible ones. They are in the produce section
of the supermarket. I've seen people gathering them in the woods, but
I'm not taking chances.

Used to be a mushroom farm near here but they closed up a half dozen
years ago. It was nice to be able to buy them at the guard shack.

On 8/25/2018 5:54 PM, Druce wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 17:34:04 -0400, Nancy Young >
> wrote:

>> I always joke, hey, free dinner but I wouldn't dream of eating
>> random mushrooms. Seems like even people who know about them
>> can be fooled.
>
> Our Tasmanian neighbours used to eat field mushrooms from their
> paddocks. They'd been doing that for generations. I once brought them
> a mushroom I found, to ask if it was edible. He looked at me in
> disgust, threw it in the fireplace and said "That's not a mushroom.
> That's a toadstool!"

But it was your toadstool!

Yeah, I won't be picking mushrooms out of the horse poop, either.

nancy

On 8/25/2018 6:08 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sat 25 Aug 2018 02:17:05p, Nancy Young told us...

>> So what do I see in the paper, record number of mushroom
>> poisonings. If you're going to eat something you found in your
>> yard, at least look it up first.

> I'm no mushroom expert, for the simple rason that I have no idea
> what might be poisonous, and I have no desire to study the types in
> order to find out. Besides the vast array of mushrooms in
> supermarkets, and a nearby mushroom farm (in a cave), I will only
> buy mshrooms that are definiely save to consume. Besides the fresh
> muchrooms I buy, I also have a great source for imported EUropean
> dried mushrooms.

I've seen people foraging for mushrooms on television and it's pretty
interesting but it's not something I'll be taking up as a hobby. As
you say, they're readily available in the stores and while I like
mushrooms, I don't eat a lot of different types.

nancy

On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 18:33:31 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote:

>On 8/25/2018 5:54 PM, Druce wrote:
>> On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 17:34:04 -0400, Nancy Young >
>> wrote:
>
>>> I always joke, hey, free dinner but I wouldn't dream of eating
>>> random mushrooms. Seems like even people who know about them
>>> can be fooled.
>>
>> Our Tasmanian neighbours used to eat field mushrooms from their
>> paddocks. They'd been doing that for generations. I once brought them
>> a mushroom I found, to ask if it was edible. He looked at me in
>> disgust, threw it in the fireplace and said "That's not a mushroom.
>> That's a toadstool!"
>
>But it was your toadstool!
>
>Yeah, I won't be picking mushrooms out of the horse poop, either.

Yes, here's one from our old paddock that I wouldn't eat:
http://oi65.tinypic.com/jj45xy.jpg

On 8/25/2018 6:48 PM, Druce wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 18:33:31 -0400, Nancy Young >
> wrote:

>> Yeah, I won't be picking mushrooms out of the horse poop, either.
>
> Yes, here's one from our old paddock that I wouldn't eat:
> http://oi65.tinypic.com/jj45xy.jpg

Not exactly composted. Heh.

Yes, i do put manure on my vegetable garden beds. Not right out
of the cow.

nancy

On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 19:01:13 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote:

>On 8/25/2018 6:48 PM, Druce wrote:
>> On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 18:33:31 -0400, Nancy Young >
>> wrote:
>
>>> Yeah, I won't be picking mushrooms out of the horse poop, either.
>>
>> Yes, here's one from our old paddock that I wouldn't eat:
>> http://oi65.tinypic.com/jj45xy.jpg
>
>Not exactly composted. Heh.
>
>Yes, i do put manure on my vegetable garden beds. Not right out
>of the cow.

No, I believe it's too 'hot' and can hurt plants.

On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 17:34:04 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:

> I always joke, hey, free dinner but I wouldn't dream of eating
> random mushrooms. Seems like even people who know about them
> can be fooled.

My Dad & I used to collect & eat (amongst other edible species) what he
called a 'morel'. One day I found a strange-looking one, and looked it up
in a book. It turns out it was a morel. The others we had been eating I
also identified as the 'false morel'. The book warned that "the conditions
under which false morels are toxic are not clear, possibly unusual recent
weather, local sub-species identical in appearance to non-toxic ones,
incomplete cooking, etc."

I stopped eating them after some mild visual hallucinations. My dad stopped
picking them as well, and decided to stick strictly to the ones he knew
'for sure' were okay. It turns out that one 'okay' kind can sometimes grow
close to extremely toxic ones, and their mycelium (root) systems allow easy
passage of toxin from the bad ones to the edible ones. This often happens
when the dangerous ones do not have visible fruiting bodies above ground.

To make a long story short, *everyone* who visited him in the hospital was
certain that he would die, and he lost a kidney.

On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 4:17:10 PM UTC-5, Nancy Young wrote:
> Never mind the wire brush attacks, now we have a long rainy hot
> summer and mushrooms are everywhere. One in my yard, I thought
> someone lost a soccer ball over the fence.
>
> So what do I see in the paper, record number of mushroom poisonings.
> If you're going to eat something you found in your yard, at least
> look it up first.
>
> nancy

You can eat any mushroom, once. ;-)

John Kuthe...

"Nancy Young" wrote in message ...

Never mind the wire brush attacks, now we have a long rainy hot
summer and mushrooms are everywhere. One in my yard, I thought
someone lost a soccer ball over the fence.

So what do I see in the paper, record number of mushroom poisonings.
If you're going to eat something you found in your yard, at least
look it up first.

nancy

==

Wow, that is big. Are you sure it's a mushroom? I've never seen a mushroom
that big but there have been other fungi!

Around here, it is the morel mushroom season that brings everyone out in droves to either
head for their "own" secret (!) patch of woods or search for a source, to find some. They bring a
good price from supermarket buyers and from farmers' markets. As far as I know, there aren't any poisonous
ones with their unique appearance found under those fallen trees. And the season is super short.

"Privately" discovered spots are a very closely-guarded secret, even kept from one's very best
friends. A bountiful harvest will result in neighborly sharing of the mushrooms, but never, never
the location where they were found.

(In the spring, morels only appear after some days of light rain, followed immediately by very
hot weather. Then aficionados head for the woods.) ;-))

N.

Mike, here in my area, I have never heard any warnings about false morels, heard any
stories about that toxic kind of mushroom, and the same thing goes when talking about
any kind of hallucination, mild or not. My grandparents owned a century farm with
a large timbered area, and they found morels every year the weather was right.

N.

On 2018-08-26 9:16 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>
> Around here, it is the morel mushroom season that brings everyone out
> in droves to either head for their "own" secret (!) patch of woods or
> search for a source, to find some. They bring a good price from
> supermarket buyers and from farmers' markets. As far as I know,
> there aren't any poisonous ones with their unique appearance found
> under those fallen trees. And the season is super short.
>

When I was kid my father used to drag us up to his home town to look for
morels in his secret special location. We never did find any.

On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 08:39:22 +0100, Ophelia wrote:

> Wow, that is big. Are you sure it's a mushroom? I've never seen a mushroom
> that big but there have been other fungi!

It was probably a puffball. They are good to eat, just be sure the skin is
smooth white. (NOT the related poisonous 'pigskin' puffball.)

"Mike_Duffy" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 08:39:22 +0100, Ophelia wrote:

> Wow, that is big. Are you sure it's a mushroom? I've never seen a
> mushroom
> that big but there have been other fungi!

It was probably a puffball. They are good to eat, just be sure the skin is
smooth white. (NOT the related poisonous 'pigskin' puffball.)
==


Yes, it sounds like a puffball. I would never want to eat one, safe or
not)

Nancy2 > wrote:
>
> Around here, it is the morel mushroom season that brings everyone out in droves to either
> head for their "own" secret (!) patch of woods or search for a source, to
> find some. They bring a
> good price from supermarket buyers and from farmers' markets. As far as
> I know, there aren't any poisonous
> ones with their unique appearance found under those fallen trees. And
> the season is super short.
>
> "Privately" discovered spots are a very closely-guarded secret, even kept
> from one's very best
> friends. A bountiful harvest will result in neighborly sharing of the
> mushrooms, but never, never
> the location where they were found.
>
> (In the spring, morels only appear after some days of light rain,
> followed immediately by very
> hot weather. Then aficionados head for the woods.) ;-))
>
> N.
>

I have relatives that €œhunt€� morels€”what you say is exactly true!

On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 23:39:45 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> The only thing I would pick and eat from the wild is (true) morels.

If you've never seen one, they do resemble a false morel in shape, although
the false ones are usually much larger. And false morels are usually okay
to eat. The european false morels seem to be toxic only if undercooked.
(Cooking drives out the mono-methyl amine.) They are commonly sold at
market stands in Europe.

The other 'problem' is sheer volume. Instead of a side order or recipe
ingredient, we were eating them by the basket because they spoiled quickly,
and the MMA produced during spoilage gave them a detestable smell similar
to ammonia.

The other one we looled for were boletes, the ones that turn teal where
bruised. (I just checked, and it appears that one should search for those
that do NOT turn teal - oh well.)

I never tried the ones that almost killed my dad. They were the little
brown ones found in birch groves.

"Mike_Duffy" wrote in message
.. .

On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 23:39:45 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> The only thing I would pick and eat from the wild is (true) morels.

If you've never seen one, they do resemble a false morel in shape, although
the false ones are usually much larger. And false morels are usually okay
to eat. The european false morels seem to be toxic only if undercooked.
(Cooking drives out the mono-methyl amine.) They are commonly sold at
market stands in Europe.

The other 'problem' is sheer volume. Instead of a side order or recipe
ingredient, we were eating them by the basket because they spoiled quickly,
and the MMA produced during spoilage gave them a detestable smell similar
to ammonia.

The other one we looled for were boletes, the ones that turn teal where
bruised. (I just checked, and it appears that one should search for those
that do NOT turn teal - oh well.)

I never tried the ones that almost killed my dad. They were the little
brown ones found in birch groves.

==

I am not knowledgeable about mushroom, but my husband is, and I take his
advice.

It was horrific to hear about your rather. I am very pleased he survived!

On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 23:39:45 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> This is just evolution and adaptation at work. A necessary weeding
> of the population to prevent Idiocrary. The only thing I would pick
> and eat from the wild is (true) morels.

Even a true morel from the wild can be toxic if it's mycellium is
intertwined with that of a toxic fungus. The mushrooms that almost killed
my dad were of a reliably-identifiable non-toxic species. Eating morels
only from the same location passed-down in family secrecy for generations
is no guarantee that climate change will not create favourable conditions
amenable to growth of toxic mycelium.

Your statement that you would pick & eat wild morels demonstrates that you
have missed this point, thus you risk becoming weeded from the population
yourself for your 'idiocy' as I'm sure you meant to type.

On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 14:57:48 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> This explanation sounds like something to explain your Dad's
> carelessness.

Yeah. Hospitals often mislead their patients in order to drum up more
businesss.


> Sorry, I'm not buying it this theory :-)

Up to you. In any case, anyone thinking about eating wild ones should
check:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushroom_poisoning

There are a lot more reasons to avoid wild mushrooms than either of us has
mentioned.

Apparently, Finn's are very keen about false morels. And there are a lot of
them (Both people of Finnish descent *and* false morels) in my dad's neck
of the woods. It's a good thing I don't usually eat raw mushrooms;
apparently they are deadly when eaten raw, and I ate platefuls cooked.

Author Nicholas Evans (and as I recall, some family member(s)) ate some misidentified
mushrooms, I believe on an estate in Scotland, and either died or nearly died (In Nicholas' case).
Evans is author of The Horse Whisperer.

N.

"Nancy2" wrote in message
...

Author Nicholas Evans (and as I recall, some family member(s)) ate some
misidentified
mushrooms, I believe on an estate in Scotland, and either died or nearly
died (In Nicholas' case).
Evans is author of The Horse Whisperer.

N.

===

There are plenty of poisonous mushrooms up here.

O.

Nancy2 wrote:
>
> Around here, it is the morel mushroom season that brings everyone out in droves to either
> head for their "own" secret (!) patch of woods or search for a source, to find some. They bring a
> good price from supermarket buyers and from farmers' markets. As far as I know, there aren't any poisonous
> ones with their unique appearance found under those fallen trees. And the season is super short.
>
> "Privately" discovered spots are a very closely-guarded secret, even kept from one's very best
> friends. A bountiful harvest will result in neighborly sharing of the mushrooms, but never, never
> the location where they were found.
>
> (In the spring, morels only appear after some days of light rain, followed immediately by very
> hot weather. Then aficionados head for the woods.) ;-))

my brother gave me a few morels from when he gathered them
and told me to keep the rinse water from them and put it
where i'd like them to grow.

i took the water and scattered it in four locations and
must have also dripped some near the house hose outlet
because a few years later we had morels growing near
the house and also out and around where i put the rinse
water.

it may take a while, but some may show up if you have
the soils/conditions for them.

what has amused me greatly is that they've appeared in
places like in the crushed limestone which is layered upon
black plastic of all things. there's not much of anything
under that gravel layer other than a little sand and bits
of detritus but that was enough. i think because of the
rain dripping off the roof... it didn't get that big but
a few others along the house have been the size of a tennis
ball or so...:

http://www.anthive.com/project/fungi/
http://www.anthive.com/img/fungi/thm..._Morel_thm.jpg
http://www.anthive.com/img/fungi/thm...Morels_thm.jpg


songbird

On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 10:18:01 AM UTC-5, songbird wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
> >
> > Around here, it is the morel mushroom season that brings everyone out in droves to either
> > head for their "own" secret (!) patch of woods or search for a source, to find some. They bring a
> > good price from supermarket buyers and from farmers' markets. As far as I know, there aren't any poisonous
> > ones with their unique appearance found under those fallen trees. And the season is super short.
> >
> > "Privately" discovered spots are a very closely-guarded secret, even kept from one's very best
> > friends. A bountiful harvest will result in neighborly sharing of the mushrooms, but never, never
> > the location where they were found.
> >
> > (In the spring, morels only appear after some days of light rain, followed immediately by very
> > hot weather. Then aficionados head for the woods.) ;-))
>
> my brother gave me a few morels from when he gathered them
> and told me to keep the rinse water from them and put it
> where i'd like them to grow.
>
> i took the water and scattered it in four locations and
> must have also dripped some near the house hose outlet
> because a few years later we had morels growing near
> the house and also out and around where i put the rinse
> water.
>
> it may take a while, but some may show up if you have
> the soils/conditions for them.
>
> what has amused me greatly is that they've appeared in
> places like in the crushed limestone which is layered upon
> black plastic of all things. there's not much of anything
> under that gravel layer other than a little sand and bits
> of detritus but that was enough. i think because of the
> rain dripping off the roof... it didn't get that big but
> a few others along the house have been the size of a tennis
> ball or so...:
>
> http://www.anthive.com/project/fungi/
> http://www.anthive.com/img/fungi/thm..._Morel_thm.jpg
> http://www.anthive.com/img/fungi/thm...Morels_thm.jpg
>
>
> songbird

Yep, it takes the mycelical growth to build up healthy enough for it to send up "fruiting bodies" which we call mushrooms.

John Kuthe...

In article >,
says...
>
> Author Nicholas Evans (and as I recall, some family member(s)) ate some misidentified
> mushrooms, I believe on an estate in Scotland, and either died or nearly died (In Nicholas' case).
> Evans is author of The Horse Whisperer.

He picked cooked and fed the mushrooms to the family, without
bothering to identify them in the fungi bible. He admits that. He only
looked them up next day after four people started to feel ill; saw that
what they had eaten was clearly labelled very toxic and sent for
medical help. Too late the damage was done. He his wife and BIL
suffered permanent kidney failure and spent years on dialysis. Evans
eventually got a kidney transplant, don't know about the others.

IOW, the poisoning was down to him being stupidly sloppy.

This past weekend we've picked cooked and eaten loads of different
wild mushrooms, 7 or 8 varieties, absolutely delicious. I have a rack
full sliced and drying to store for winter.

My son and DIL were trained to identify them correctly in Sweden by a
professional mushroom picker who has picked wild fungi and exported for
decades. Even so, when we get the haul home we ALWAYS double check every
single mushroom against its photo and other characteristics. If there's
even the tiniets doubt, we don't eat it.

Janet UK

On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 11:45:17 AM UTC-5, Janet wrote:
....
> My son and DIL were trained to identify them correctly in Sweden by a
> professional mushroom picker who has picked wild fungi and exported for
> decades. Even so, when we get the haul home we ALWAYS double check every
> single mushroom against its photo and other characteristics. If there's
> even the tiniets doubt, we don't eat it.
>
> Janet UK

Well, like I think I've said here befo

You can eat any mushroom, once.

John Kuthe...

Songbird, those morel spores must not be as particular as the ones here, which can be
found only under fallen and decaying trees. I have found just a light sauté in butter
is the best (cooked) way to eat them to get the full flavor. Lucky you!

N.

Nancy2 wrote:
> Songbird, those morel spores must not be as particular as the ones here, which can be
> found only under fallen and decaying trees. I have found just a light sauté in butter
> is the best (cooked) way to eat them to get the full flavor. Lucky you!

if you are in the more arid west it may be the case
that the only suitable habitat for development of the
fungi is around organic matter in the soil which can
hold moisture for a longer time. i do also know they
have a distinct difference out there too where they
form in burned over areas. we don't usually have that
sort of space here.


songbird