"Gary" wrote in message ...

Hank Rogers wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> > Several years ago there was an ongoing fire
> > not too far from here in NC. Any SW wind blew all the smoke here.
> > It was horrible. Even looked like fog when it got real bad. It
> > lasted for 2-3 months.
> >
>
> Was that the fire in georgia, near the Florida line?

No this was in 2011, border of VA and NC line.
The Great Dismal Swamp. Maybe 40 miles from where I live.
http://earthsky.org/earth/peat-burns...nia-swamp-fire


> > For some strange reason though, I do cherish living so close to
> > the ocean. It's the edge of a vast wilderness.
>
> I had a friend (at work) from england that had always "lived by the
> sea". He yearned to go back, but he was very devoted to his very elderly
> and sickly dog. It was apparently an insurmountable problem to get the
> varmint legally imported back to the UK, without a long quarantine period.
>
> He truly loved that animal, and he accepted the sacrifice.

Good for him. Pets become family and should be kept for life if
at all possible. I've seen some people that will ditch their old
pets just for convenience. I've done hospice care for 3 ferrets
and a few cats. once they enter their last year or so, it's a
pain to take care of them and requires much more time. I've known
a few that have them put to sleep too early because "they are
suffering." Sometimes, it's the caregiver that is suffering and
just wants them gone.

My parents always had an offer of...if things go bad, you always
have a place to stay with us. That always gave me peace of mind
and an extreme option. About 12 years ago, my business was
failing and I was worried about things. Again, I was told...you
can always come here if you need to. That time though, they
added...but no ferrets here. Well, that immediately ended my
extreme backup plan. No way would I ditch my kids. If it had come
to that, I would have bought a tent with my last dollars and
camped in the woods with my ferrets. heheh

Luckily, I got myself out of that mess and went back to work with
my old company who welcomed me back.

==

I totally agree with all that. I could no more dump my dogs than I could my
babies.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>
> Hank Rogers wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>> > Several years ago there was an ongoing fire
>> > not too far from here in NC. Any SW wind blew all the smoke here.
>> > It was horrible. Even looked like fog when it got real bad. It
>> > lasted for 2-3 months.
>> >
>>
>> Was that the fire in georgia, near the Florida line?
>
> No this was in 2011, border of VA and NC line.
> The Great Dismal Swamp. Maybe 40 miles from where I live.
> http://earthsky.org/earth/peat-burns...nia-swamp-fire
>
>
>> > For some strange reason though, I do cherish living so close to
>> > the ocean. It's the edge of a vast wilderness.
>>
>> I had a friend (at work) from england that had always "lived by the
>> sea". He yearned to go back, but he was very devoted to his very elderly
>> and sickly dog. It was apparently an insurmountable problem to get the
>> varmint legally imported back to the UK, without a long quarantine
>> period.
>>
>> He truly loved that animal, and he accepted the sacrifice.
>
> Good for him. Pets become family and should be kept for life if
> at all possible. I've seen some people that will ditch their old
> pets just for convenience. I've done hospice care for 3 ferrets
> and a few cats. once they enter their last year or so, it's a
> pain to take care of them and requires much more time. I've known
> a few that have them put to sleep too early because "they are
> suffering." Sometimes, it's the caregiver that is suffering and
> just wants them gone.
>
> My parents always had an offer of...if things go bad, you always
> have a place to stay with us. That always gave me peace of mind
> and an extreme option. About 12 years ago, my business was
> failing and I was worried about things. Again, I was told...you
> can always come here if you need to. That time though, they
> added...but no ferrets here. Well, that immediately ended my
> extreme backup plan. No way would I ditch my kids. If it had come
> to that, I would have bought a tent with my last dollars and
> camped in the woods with my ferrets. heheh
>
> Luckily, I got myself out of that mess and went back to work with
> my old company who welcomed me back.
>
> ==
>
> I totally agree with all that. I could no more dump my dogs than I could
> my
> babies.

Me either and in this day and age I don't know of any reputable vet that
would put a pet down unless the pet was suffering, those people that abandon
pets for their own convenience might find themselves in the same position
when growing old and nobody wants to step up to help because it would be
inconvenient.

Cheri

On 2018-07-29 10:52 AM, Cheri wrote:

> Me either and in this day and age I don't know of any reputable vet that
> would put a pet down unless the pet was suffering, those people that
> abandon pets for their own convenience might find themselves in the same
> position when growing old and nobody wants to step up to help because it
> would be inconvenient.

I can't fault a person for not wanting to step in an "rescue" someone's
pet. A dog tends to develop a bond early in life and it can take a fair
amount of time before it really takes to a new owner. They are
sometimes dogs with issues. I have had a couple rescues. One came from
the pound when he was a year and a half. He took to us quickly and was
fairly easy to train. Then we got a five year old Belgium Shepherd, and
he was wonderful.

As he got older and we looked for a replacement I got a variation of the
Belgium, a 5 year old Malinois. He was a handful. The woman dropped him
off on here way to a conference and said she would come back in three
days and if things weren't working out she would take him back. She
lied. She never came back or called or replied to emails. He was
virtually untrainable, but by age 11 he started to mellow.

Our most recent rescue is a 6 year old mini golden doodle whose owners
had health issues. He is a needy little guy withe separation anxiety
and a finicky appetite. He needs some training.

It isn't always easy to take on a second hand pet.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2018-07-29 10:52 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
>> Me either and in this day and age I don't know of any reputable vet that
>> would put a pet down unless the pet was suffering, those people that
>> abandon pets for their own convenience might find themselves in the same
>> position when growing old and nobody wants to step up to help because it
>> would be inconvenient.
>
> I can't fault a person for not wanting to step in an "rescue" someone's
> pet. A dog tends to develop a bond early in life and it can take a fair
> amount of time before it really takes to a new owner. They are sometimes
> dogs with issues. I have had a couple rescues. One came from the pound
> when he was a year and a half. He took to us quickly and was fairly easy
> to train. Then we got a five year old Belgium Shepherd, and he was
> wonderful.
>
> As he got older and we looked for a replacement I got a variation of the
> Belgium, a 5 year old Malinois. He was a handful. The woman dropped him
> off on here way to a conference and said she would come back in three days
> and if things weren't working out she would take him back. She lied. She
> never came back or called or replied to emails. He was virtually
> untrainable, but by age 11 he started to mellow.
>
> Our most recent rescue is a 6 year old mini golden doodle whose owners had
> health issues. He is a needy little guy withe separation anxiety and a
> finicky appetite. He needs some training.
>
> It isn't always easy to take on a second hand pet.

Yes, our last two dogs have been rescues, before that from pups. They both
have been great dogs, the second was quite shy for awhile, but 8 years
later, it's like she never was anywhere else. She had a hard life on the
street and was a walking skeleton, now she could stand to lose a pound or
two, but she's happy. I think there are some dogs that can't be rehomed
successfully.

Cheri

lost track of who wrote

> > I had a friend (at work) from england that had always "lived by the
> > sea". He yearned to go back, but he was very devoted to his very elderly
> > and sickly dog. It was apparently an insurmountable problem to get the
> > varmint legally imported back to the UK, without a long quarantine
period.

The UK now accepts import of Passported animals from listed
countries including USA, without need for quarantine so long as the
animal is rabies vaccinated and blood tested, and complies with other UK
animal health regulations.

https://www.gov.uk/bring-your-pet-to-uk

Janet UK

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 09:52:10 -0400, Gary wrote:
>
>> No this was in 2011, border of VA and NC line.
>> The Great Dismal Swamp. Maybe 40 miles from where I live.
>> http://earthsky.org/earth/peat-burns...nia-swamp-fire
>
> Huh. I'd never heard of the Great Dismal Swamp until now. Catchy
> name. Only 150 miles from Washington DC and about the same size...
>
> I vote The GDS as the new Capital of the U.S. and home of the
> Federal Government.
>
> -sw
>

Hell, washington DC itself was built on a swamp.

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>
> Hank Rogers wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>> > Several years ago there was an ongoing fire
>> > not too far from here in NC. Any SW wind blew all the smoke here.
>> > It was horrible. Even looked like fog when it got real bad. It
>> > lasted for 2-3 months.
>> >
>>
>> Was that the fire in georgia, near the Florida line?
>
> No this was in 2011, border of VA and NC line.
> The Great Dismal Swamp. Maybe 40 miles from where I live.
> http://earthsky.org/earth/peat-burns...nia-swamp-fire
>
>
>> > For some strange reason though, I do cherish living so close to
>> > the ocean. It's the edge of a vast wilderness.
>>
>> I had a friend (at work) from england that had always "lived by the
>> sea". He yearned to go back, but he was very devoted to his very elderly
>> and sickly dog. It was apparently an insurmountable problem to get the
>> varmint legally imported back to the UK, without a long quarantine
>> period.
>>
>> He truly loved that animal, and he accepted the sacrifice.
>
> Good for him. Pets become family and should be kept for life if
> at all possible. I've seen some people that will ditch their old
> pets just for convenience. I've done hospice care for 3 ferrets
> and a few cats. once they enter their last year or so, it's a
> pain to take care of them and requires much more time. I've known
> a few that have them put to sleep too early because "they are
> suffering." Sometimes, it's the caregiver that is suffering and
> just wants them gone.
>
> My parents always had an offer of...if things go bad, you always
> have a place to stay with us. That always gave me peace of mind
> and an extreme option. About 12 years ago, my business was
> failing and I was worried about things. Again, I was told...you
> can always come here if you need to. That time though, they
> added...but no ferrets here. Well, that immediately ended my
> extreme backup plan. No way would I ditch my kids. If it had come
> to that, I would have bought a tent with my last dollars and
> camped in the woods with my ferrets. heheh
>
> Luckily, I got myself out of that mess and went back to work with
> my old company who welcomed me back.
>
> ==
>
> I totally agree with all that. I could no more dump my dogs than I could
> my
> babies.

Me either and in this day and age I don't know of any reputable vet that
would put a pet down unless the pet was suffering, those people that abandon
pets for their own convenience might find themselves in the same position
when growing old and nobody wants to step up to help because it would be
inconvenient.

Cheri

==

I really hope so!!!

"Cheri" wrote in message news


Yes, our last two dogs have been rescues, before that from pups. They both
have been great dogs, the second was quite shy for awhile, but 8 years
later, it's like she never was anywhere else. She had a hard life on the
street and was a walking skeleton, now she could stand to lose a pound or
two, but she's happy. I think there are some dogs that can't be rehomed
successfully.

Cheri

===

As you know we always take rescues too. My latest, has been the most
challenging. you know her history and it took her a long time to trust us.
Now, we are her world and she can't bear to be apart from us. She was a
skeleton too, and yes, she is overweight now What can you do when they
are so starved that they will grab anything and everything they can get to
eat. She is much more confident now and will refuse *some* things if she is
not hungry! Oh boy, it is wonderful to see)

We sometimes talk about getting another after her time is done. But we
couldn't bear to have a dog like Poppy who (when our time came) would have
to find another home. I really don't think she could cope. Previous dogs
we have had might have been able to, but not Poppy.

It is very distressing, as I wouldn't be happy without a dog in our home.

Ophelia wrote:

> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
>
>
> Yes, our last two dogs have been rescues, before that from pups. They both
> have been great dogs, the second was quite shy for awhile, but 8 years
> later, it's like she never was anywhere else. She had a hard life on the
> street and was a walking skeleton, now she could stand to lose a pound or
> two, but she's happy. I think there are some dogs that can't be rehomed
> successfully.
>
> Cheri
>
> ===
>
> As you know we always take rescues too. My latest, has been the most
> challenging. you know her history and it took her a long time to trust us.
> Now, we are her world and she can't bear to be apart from us. She was a
> skeleton too, and yes, she is overweight now What can you do when they
> are so starved that they will grab anything and everything they can get to
> eat. She is much more confident now and will refuse *some* things if she is
> not hungry! Oh boy, it is wonderful to see)
>
> We sometimes talk about getting another after her time is done. But we
> couldn't bear to have a dog like Poppy who (when our time came) would have
> to find another home. I really don't think she could cope. Previous dogs
> we have had might have been able to, but not Poppy.
>
> It is very distressing, as I wouldn't be happy without a dog in our home.


You've a very kind soul, Ms. O....

:-)

--
Best
Greg

On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 14:32:45 -0700 (PDT), GM
> wrote:

>Ophelia wrote:
>
>> "Cheri" wrote in message news >>
>>
>>
>> Yes, our last two dogs have been rescues, before that from pups. They both
>> have been great dogs, the second was quite shy for awhile, but 8 years
>> later, it's like she never was anywhere else. She had a hard life on the
>> street and was a walking skeleton, now she could stand to lose a pound or
>> two, but she's happy. I think there are some dogs that can't be rehomed
>> successfully.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>> ===
>>
>> As you know we always take rescues too. My latest, has been the most
>> challenging. you know her history and it took her a long time to trust us.
>> Now, we are her world and she can't bear to be apart from us. She was a
>> skeleton too, and yes, she is overweight now What can you do when they
>> are so starved that they will grab anything and everything they can get to
>> eat. She is much more confident now and will refuse *some* things if she is
>> not hungry! Oh boy, it is wonderful to see)
>>
>> We sometimes talk about getting another after her time is done. But we
>> couldn't bear to have a dog like Poppy who (when our time came) would have
>> to find another home. I really don't think she could cope. Previous dogs
>> we have had might have been able to, but not Poppy.
>>
>> It is very distressing, as I wouldn't be happy without a dog in our home.
>
>
>You've a very kind soul, Ms. O....
>
>:-)

Yes, it's so much better than getting a "special" breed fro m

On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 07:53:35 +1000, Druce >
wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 14:32:45 -0700 (PDT), GM
> wrote:
>
>>Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> "Cheri" wrote in message news >>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, our last two dogs have been rescues, before that from pups. They both
>>> have been great dogs, the second was quite shy for awhile, but 8 years
>>> later, it's like she never was anywhere else. She had a hard life on the
>>> street and was a walking skeleton, now she could stand to lose a pound or
>>> two, but she's happy. I think there are some dogs that can't be rehomed
>>> successfully.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> As you know we always take rescues too. My latest, has been the most
>>> challenging. you know her history and it took her a long time to trust us.
>>> Now, we are her world and she can't bear to be apart from us. She was a
>>> skeleton too, and yes, she is overweight now What can you do when they
>>> are so starved that they will grab anything and everything they can get to
>>> eat. She is much more confident now and will refuse *some* things if she is
>>> not hungry! Oh boy, it is wonderful to see)
>>>
>>> We sometimes talk about getting another after her time is done. But we
>>> couldn't bear to have a dog like Poppy who (when our time came) would have
>>> to find another home. I really don't think she could cope. Previous dogs
>>> we have had might have been able to, but not Poppy.
>>>
>>> It is very distressing, as I wouldn't be happy without a dog in our home.
>>
>>
>>You've a very kind soul, Ms. O....
>>
>>:-)

Yes, it's so much better than getting a "special" breed from a
breeder. If it's not about looks but about character with men, why not
with dogs?

On 7/29/2018 5:53 PM, Druce wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 14:32:45 -0700 (PDT), GM
> > wrote:
>
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> "Cheri" wrote in message news >>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, our last two dogs have been rescues, before that from pups. They both
>>> have been great dogs, the second was quite shy for awhile, but 8 years
>>> later, it's like she never was anywhere else. She had a hard life on the
>>> street and was a walking skeleton, now she could stand to lose a pound or
>>> two, but she's happy. I think there are some dogs that can't be rehomed
>>> successfully.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> As you know we always take rescues too. My latest, has been the most
>>> challenging. you know her history and it took her a long time to trust us.
>>> Now, we are her world and she can't bear to be apart from us. She was a
>>> skeleton too, and yes, she is overweight now What can you do when they
>>> are so starved that they will grab anything and everything they can get to
>>> eat. She is much more confident now and will refuse *some* things if she is
>>> not hungry! Oh boy, it is wonderful to see)
>>>
>>> We sometimes talk about getting another after her time is done. But we
>>> couldn't bear to have a dog like Poppy who (when our time came) would have
>>> to find another home. I really don't think she could cope. Previous dogs
>>> we have had might have been able to, but not Poppy.
>>>
>>> It is very distressing, as I wouldn't be happy without a dog in our home.
>>
>>
>> You've a very kind soul, Ms. O....
>>
>> :-)
>
> Yes, it's so much better than getting a "special" breed fro m
>
Your ass sucks canal water.

On Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 7:37:51 PM UTC-4, Stagger Lee wrote:

> Your ass sucks canal water.


Haven't heard that expression since I was a kid in Pennsylvania. I jumped out of this thread days ago - too boring (everyone's talking about other stuff, not about me anymore) - but have had my eyes on it since. I got out when the Judge Judy crap started and people were telling me (and others), to turn the channel if the show bothers us so much. But I never said I watched the show. All I said was, in my opinion a person has to be an asshole to be a judge, period. That has nothing to do with the show itself. Now they're talking about taking in "rescue" animals.

Once again - IMO - ALL pets are rescues, it doesn't matter where they came from. I think a lot of people like to say they have rescues because it makes them look caring and sensitive - and who knows, maybe they are. Point is though, all pets are rescues no matter where they came from. If you take in an animal before it needs to be rescued, you are rescuing it from the possibility of needing to be rescued. It is very easy for people to go around calling themselves liberal and open minded and tolerant. They do it all the time. They attach sweet labels to themselves while attacking others as being the opposite. The reality is, if there were truly as many liberal and open minded and tolerant people as claimed, the problems they complain about wouldn't exist. So somebody is lying.

My ass sucks canal water

On 7/29/2018 8:24 PM, wrote:

>
> It is very easy for people to go around calling themselves liberal and open minded and tolerant. They do it all the time. They attach sweet labels to themselves while attacking others as being the opposite. The reality is, if there were truly as many liberal and open minded and tolerant people as claimed, the problems they complain about wouldn't exist. So somebody is lying.

No comment needed

On Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 9:25:03 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> It is very easy for people to go around calling themselves liberal and open minded and tolerant. They do it all the time. They attach sweet labels to themselves while attacking others as being the opposite. The reality is, if there were truly as many liberal and open minded and tolerant people as claimed, the problems they complain about wouldn't exist. So somebody is lying.


> No comment needed


Thanks, Ed. I don't want to get into a big ass kissing mutual admiration society type thing here, but I really do appreciate your comments, and not just because you agree with something I've said (although that has some bearing on things). I appreciate your comments because they seem to come mostly on the heels of something I've said that has an unmistakable ring of truth to it, and it makes me feel good to know there are people who respect the truth. I value the truth. I can't live without out it. I will even go so far as to say that in some ways lying is the worst crime of all, even worse than murder or some of the other crimes people are executed for. There are too many liars in this world. Maybe they don't know they're lying. I'll be kind and say that's probably the case. Either way there's a lot of lying going on and I'm afraid it's not going to get better any time soon. Thanks for your comments and observations.

On Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 4:53:41 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 14:32:45 -0700 (PDT), GM
> > wrote:
>
> >Ophelia wrote:
> >
> >> "Cheri" wrote in message news > >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes, our last two dogs have been rescues, before that from pups. They both
> >> have been great dogs, the second was quite shy for awhile, but 8 years
> >> later, it's like she never was anywhere else. She had a hard life on the
> >> street and was a walking skeleton, now she could stand to lose a pound or
> >> two, but she's happy. I think there are some dogs that can't be rehomed
> >> successfully.
> >>
> >> Cheri
> >>
> >> ===
> >>
> >> As you know we always take rescues too. My latest, has been the most
> >> challenging. you know her history and it took her a long time to trust us.
> >> Now, we are her world and she can't bear to be apart from us. She was a
> >> skeleton too, and yes, she is overweight now What can you do when they
> >> are so starved that they will grab anything and everything they can get to
> >> eat. She is much more confident now and will refuse *some* things if she is
> >> not hungry! Oh boy, it is wonderful to see)
> >>
> >> We sometimes talk about getting another after her time is done. But we
> >> couldn't bear to have a dog like Poppy who (when our time came) would have
> >> to find another home. I really don't think she could cope. Previous dogs
> >> we have had might have been able to, but not Poppy.
> >>
> >> It is very distressing, as I wouldn't be happy without a dog in our home.
> >
> >
> >You've a very kind soul, Ms. O....
> >
> >:-)
>
> Yes, it's so much better than getting a "special" breed fro m

That's a Special Pie! ;-)


John Kuthe...

On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 19:45:27 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 4:53:41 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 14:32:45 -0700 (PDT), GM
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Ophelia wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Cheri" wrote in message news >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Yes, our last two dogs have been rescues, before that from pups. They both
>> >> have been great dogs, the second was quite shy for awhile, but 8 years
>> >> later, it's like she never was anywhere else. She had a hard life on the
>> >> street and was a walking skeleton, now she could stand to lose a pound or
>> >> two, but she's happy. I think there are some dogs that can't be rehomed
>> >> successfully.
>> >>
>> >> Cheri
>> >>
>> >> ===
>> >>
>> >> As you know we always take rescues too. My latest, has been the most
>> >> challenging. you know her history and it took her a long time to trust us.
>> >> Now, we are her world and she can't bear to be apart from us. She was a
>> >> skeleton too, and yes, she is overweight now What can you do when they
>> >> are so starved that they will grab anything and everything they can get to
>> >> eat. She is much more confident now and will refuse *some* things if she is
>> >> not hungry! Oh boy, it is wonderful to see)
>> >>
>> >> We sometimes talk about getting another after her time is done. But we
>> >> couldn't bear to have a dog like Poppy who (when our time came) would have
>> >> to find another home. I really don't think she could cope. Previous dogs
>> >> we have had might have been able to, but not Poppy.
>> >>
>> >> It is very distressing, as I wouldn't be happy without a dog in our home.
>> >
>> >
>> >You've a very kind soul, Ms. O....
>> >
>> >:-)
>>
>> Yes, it's so much better than getting a "special" breed fro m
>
>That's a Special Pie! ;-)

Yeah, I got distracted and sent an unfinished post

Druce wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 19:45:27 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 4:53:41 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
>>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 14:32:45 -0700 (PDT), GM
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Cheri" wrote in message news >>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, our last two dogs have been rescues, before that from pups. They both
>>>>> have been great dogs, the second was quite shy for awhile, but 8 years
>>>>> later, it's like she never was anywhere else. She had a hard life on the
>>>>> street and was a walking skeleton, now she could stand to lose a pound or
>>>>> two, but she's happy. I think there are some dogs that can't be rehomed
>>>>> successfully.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>
>>>>> ===
>>>>>
>>>>> As you know we always take rescues too. My latest, has been the most
>>>>> challenging. you know her history and it took her a long time to trust us.
>>>>> Now, we are her world and she can't bear to be apart from us. She was a
>>>>> skeleton too, and yes, she is overweight now What can you do when they
>>>>> are so starved that they will grab anything and everything they can get to
>>>>> eat. She is much more confident now and will refuse *some* things if she is
>>>>> not hungry! Oh boy, it is wonderful to see)
>>>>>
>>>>> We sometimes talk about getting another after her time is done. But we
>>>>> couldn't bear to have a dog like Poppy who (when our time came) would have
>>>>> to find another home. I really don't think she could cope. Previous dogs
>>>>> we have had might have been able to, but not Poppy.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is very distressing, as I wouldn't be happy without a dog in our home.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You've a very kind soul, Ms. O....
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Yes, it's so much better than getting a "special" breed fro m
>>
>> That's a Special Pie! ;-)
>
> Yeah, I got distracted and sent an unfinished post
>

Drucilla came in?

On Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 10:08:47 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>
> Druce wrote:
>
> >I got distracted and sent an unfinished post
> >
>
> Drucilla came in?
>
>
HA!

In article >, Gary > wrote:


> No this was in 2011, border of VA and NC line.
> The Great Dismal Swamp. Maybe 40 miles from where I live.

If you were sentenced to death by struggle, vermin, predation and
disease, where would you want to be dropped in the middle of?
The choices a

(1) Atchafalaya Basin
(2) Everglades
(3) Great Dismal Swamp

Choose wisely.

leo

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
>
>
> Yes, our last two dogs have been rescues, before that from pups. They both
> have been great dogs, the second was quite shy for awhile, but 8 years
> later, it's like she never was anywhere else. She had a hard life on the
> street and was a walking skeleton, now she could stand to lose a pound or
> two, but she's happy. I think there are some dogs that can't be rehomed
> successfully.
>
> Cheri
>
> ===
>
> As you know we always take rescues too. My latest, has been the most
> challenging. you know her history and it took her a long time to trust us.
> Now, we are her world and she can't bear to be apart from us. She was a
> skeleton too, and yes, she is overweight now What can you do when they
> are so starved that they will grab anything and everything they can get to
> eat. She is much more confident now and will refuse *some* things if she
> is not hungry! Oh boy, it is wonderful to see)
>
> We sometimes talk about getting another after her time is done. But we
> couldn't bear to have a dog like Poppy who (when our time came) would have
> to find another home. I really don't think she could cope. Previous dogs
> we have had might have been able to, but not Poppy.
>
> It is very distressing, as I wouldn't be happy without a dog in our home.

I know what you mean, I always said that Sophie was our once in a lifetime
dog, but Annie has been a joy too. We were talking about that yesterday with
our age now getting another dog when Annie goes wouldn't really be feasible.
Guess we just have to wait and see. Poppy is a very lucky dog that she found
you. :-)

Cheri

"GM" wrote in message
...

Ophelia wrote:

> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
>
>
> Yes, our last two dogs have been rescues, before that from pups. They both
> have been great dogs, the second was quite shy for awhile, but 8 years
> later, it's like she never was anywhere else. She had a hard life on the
> street and was a walking skeleton, now she could stand to lose a pound or
> two, but she's happy. I think there are some dogs that can't be rehomed
> successfully.
>
> Cheri
>
> ===
>
> As you know we always take rescues too. My latest, has been the most
> challenging. you know her history and it took her a long time to trust us.
> Now, we are her world and she can't bear to be apart from us. She was a
> skeleton too, and yes, she is overweight now What can you do when they
> are so starved that they will grab anything and everything they can get to
> eat. She is much more confident now and will refuse *some* things if she
> is
> not hungry! Oh boy, it is wonderful to see)
>
> We sometimes talk about getting another after her time is done. But we
> couldn't bear to have a dog like Poppy who (when our time came) would have
> to find another home. I really don't think she could cope. Previous dogs
> we have had might have been able to, but not Poppy.
>
> It is very distressing, as I wouldn't be happy without a dog in our home.


You've a very kind soul, Ms. O....

:-)

Best
Greg

==

More like I just love the wee mutts )

wrote in message
...

On Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 7:37:51 PM UTC-4, Stagger Lee wrote:

> Your ass sucks canal water.


Haven't heard that expression since I was a kid in Pennsylvania. I jumped
out of this thread days ago - too boring (everyone's talking about other
stuff, not about me anymore) - but have had my eyes on it since. I got out
when the Judge Judy crap started and people were telling me (and others), to
turn the channel if the show bothers us so much. But I never said I watched
the show. All I said was, in my opinion a person has to be an asshole to be
a judge, period. That has nothing to do with the show itself. Now they're
talking about taking in "rescue" animals.

Once again - IMO - ALL pets are rescues, it doesn't matter where they came
from. I think a lot of people like to say they have rescues because it
makes them look caring and sensitive - and who knows, maybe they are. Point
is though, all pets are rescues no matter where they came from. If you take
in an animal before it needs to be rescued, you are rescuing it from the
possibility of needing to be rescued. It is very easy for people to go
around calling themselves liberal and open minded and tolerant. They do it
all the time. They attach sweet labels to themselves while attacking others
as being the opposite. The reality is, if there were truly as many liberal
and open minded and tolerant people as claimed, the problems they complain
about wouldn't exist. So somebody is lying.

My ass sucks canal water
==

If you say so, but I have never blamed anyone for not taking in rescues!

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
>
>
> Yes, our last two dogs have been rescues, before that from pups. They both
> have been great dogs, the second was quite shy for awhile, but 8 years
> later, it's like she never was anywhere else. She had a hard life on the
> street and was a walking skeleton, now she could stand to lose a pound or
> two, but she's happy. I think there are some dogs that can't be rehomed
> successfully.
>
> Cheri
>
> ===
>
> As you know we always take rescues too. My latest, has been the most
> challenging. you know her history and it took her a long time to trust us.
> Now, we are her world and she can't bear to be apart from us. She was a
> skeleton too, and yes, she is overweight now What can you do when they
> are so starved that they will grab anything and everything they can get to
> eat. She is much more confident now and will refuse *some* things if she
> is not hungry! Oh boy, it is wonderful to see)
>
> We sometimes talk about getting another after her time is done. But we
> couldn't bear to have a dog like Poppy who (when our time came) would have
> to find another home. I really don't think she could cope. Previous dogs
> we have had might have been able to, but not Poppy.
>
> It is very distressing, as I wouldn't be happy without a dog in our home.

I know what you mean, I always said that Sophie was our once in a lifetime
dog, but Annie has been a joy too. We were talking about that yesterday with
our age now getting another dog when Annie goes wouldn't really be feasible.
Guess we just have to wait and see. Poppy is a very lucky dog that she found
you. :-)

Cheri

==

We were lucky to find her) She is a joy)

Yes we we will just have to wait and see. I don't really want to think
about it

It struck home this last week. We had some severe storms with thunder and
gales. Any big noise frightens her and she goes into her 'safe place'. We
hardly saw her all afternoon and early evening and it struck me that is what
it would be like with no dog!!! I didn't like it one little bit(

On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 22:51:54 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>
>> "Cheri" wrote in message news >>
>>
>>
>> Yes, our last two dogs have been rescues, before that from pups. They both
>> have been great dogs, the second was quite shy for awhile, but 8 years
>> later, it's like she never was anywhere else. She had a hard life on the
>> street and was a walking skeleton, now she could stand to lose a pound or
>> two, but she's happy. I think there are some dogs that can't be rehomed
>> successfully.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>> ===
>>
>> As you know we always take rescues too. My latest, has been the most
>> challenging. you know her history and it took her a long time to trust us.
>> Now, we are her world and she can't bear to be apart from us. She was a
>> skeleton too, and yes, she is overweight now What can you do when they
>> are so starved that they will grab anything and everything they can get to
>> eat. She is much more confident now and will refuse *some* things if she
>> is not hungry! Oh boy, it is wonderful to see)
>>
>> We sometimes talk about getting another after her time is done. But we
>> couldn't bear to have a dog like Poppy who (when our time came) would have
>> to find another home. I really don't think she could cope. Previous dogs
>> we have had might have been able to, but not Poppy.
>>
>> It is very distressing, as I wouldn't be happy without a dog in our home.
>
>I know what you mean, I always said that Sophie was our once in a lifetime
>dog, but Annie has been a joy too. We were talking about that yesterday with
>our age now getting another dog when Annie goes wouldn't really be feasible.
>Guess we just have to wait and see. Poppy is a very lucky dog that she found
>you. :-)
>
>Cheri
>
I'm missing having a dog but you kind of get used to it. It's 4 years
now and I still get some dog hair in the dryer filter, the vacuum
filter and imbedded in the car upholstery. Just little reminders
Janet US

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
...

On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 22:51:54 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>
>> "Cheri" wrote in message news >>
>>
>>
>> Yes, our last two dogs have been rescues, before that from pups. They
>> both
>> have been great dogs, the second was quite shy for awhile, but 8 years
>> later, it's like she never was anywhere else. She had a hard life on the
>> street and was a walking skeleton, now she could stand to lose a pound or
>> two, but she's happy. I think there are some dogs that can't be rehomed
>> successfully.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>> ===
>>
>> As you know we always take rescues too. My latest, has been the most
>> challenging. you know her history and it took her a long time to trust
>> us.
>> Now, we are her world and she can't bear to be apart from us. She was a
>> skeleton too, and yes, she is overweight now What can you do when they
>> are so starved that they will grab anything and everything they can get
>> to
>> eat. She is much more confident now and will refuse *some* things if she
>> is not hungry! Oh boy, it is wonderful to see)
>>
>> We sometimes talk about getting another after her time is done. But we
>> couldn't bear to have a dog like Poppy who (when our time came) would
>> have
>> to find another home. I really don't think she could cope. Previous
>> dogs
>> we have had might have been able to, but not Poppy.
>>
>> It is very distressing, as I wouldn't be happy without a dog in our home.
>
>I know what you mean, I always said that Sophie was our once in a lifetime
>dog, but Annie has been a joy too. We were talking about that yesterday
>with
>our age now getting another dog when Annie goes wouldn't really be
>feasible.
>Guess we just have to wait and see. Poppy is a very lucky dog that she
>found
>you. :-)
>
>Cheri
>
I'm missing having a dog but you kind of get used to it. It's 4 years
now and I still get some dog hair in the dryer filter, the vacuum
filter and imbedded in the car upholstery. Just little reminders
Janet US

==

That is rather encouraging. I am not sure I would want to get used to it
but it shows it is possible. It is a long time since we haven't had a dog.

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 22:51:54 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Cheri" wrote in message news >>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, our last two dogs have been rescues, before that from pups. They
>>> both
>>> have been great dogs, the second was quite shy for awhile, but 8 years
>>> later, it's like she never was anywhere else. She had a hard life on the
>>> street and was a walking skeleton, now she could stand to lose a pound
>>> or
>>> two, but she's happy. I think there are some dogs that can't be rehomed
>>> successfully.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> As you know we always take rescues too. My latest, has been the most
>>> challenging. you know her history and it took her a long time to trust
>>> us.
>>> Now, we are her world and she can't bear to be apart from us. She was a
>>> skeleton too, and yes, she is overweight now What can you do when
>>> they
>>> are so starved that they will grab anything and everything they can get
>>> to
>>> eat. She is much more confident now and will refuse *some* things if
>>> she
>>> is not hungry! Oh boy, it is wonderful to see)
>>>
>>> We sometimes talk about getting another after her time is done. But we
>>> couldn't bear to have a dog like Poppy who (when our time came) would
>>> have
>>> to find another home. I really don't think she could cope. Previous
>>> dogs
>>> we have had might have been able to, but not Poppy.
>>>
>>> It is very distressing, as I wouldn't be happy without a dog in our
>>> home.
>>
>>I know what you mean, I always said that Sophie was our once in a lifetime
>>dog, but Annie has been a joy too. We were talking about that yesterday
>>with
>>our age now getting another dog when Annie goes wouldn't really be
>>feasible.
>>Guess we just have to wait and see. Poppy is a very lucky dog that she
>>found
>>you. :-)
>>
>>Cheri
>>
> I'm missing having a dog but you kind of get used to it. It's 4 years
> now and I still get some dog hair in the dryer filter, the vacuum
> filter and imbedded in the car upholstery. Just little reminders
> Janet US


Yes, I'm sure we will get used to it. Sophie has been gone for 9 years and
we still find the occasional bone etc.

Cheri

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 22:51:54 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Cheri" wrote in message news >>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, our last two dogs have been rescues, before that from pups. They
>>> both
>>> have been great dogs, the second was quite shy for awhile, but 8 years
>>> later, it's like she never was anywhere else. She had a hard life on the
>>> street and was a walking skeleton, now she could stand to lose a pound
>>> or
>>> two, but she's happy. I think there are some dogs that can't be rehomed
>>> successfully.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> As you know we always take rescues too. My latest, has been the most
>>> challenging. you know her history and it took her a long time to trust
>>> us.
>>> Now, we are her world and she can't bear to be apart from us. She was a
>>> skeleton too, and yes, she is overweight now What can you do when
>>> they
>>> are so starved that they will grab anything and everything they can get
>>> to
>>> eat. She is much more confident now and will refuse *some* things if
>>> she
>>> is not hungry! Oh boy, it is wonderful to see)
>>>
>>> We sometimes talk about getting another after her time is done. But we
>>> couldn't bear to have a dog like Poppy who (when our time came) would
>>> have
>>> to find another home. I really don't think she could cope. Previous
>>> dogs
>>> we have had might have been able to, but not Poppy.
>>>
>>> It is very distressing, as I wouldn't be happy without a dog in our
>>> home.
>>
>>I know what you mean, I always said that Sophie was our once in a lifetime
>>dog, but Annie has been a joy too. We were talking about that yesterday
>>with
>>our age now getting another dog when Annie goes wouldn't really be
>>feasible.
>>Guess we just have to wait and see. Poppy is a very lucky dog that she
>>found
>>you. :-)
>>
>>Cheri
>>
> I'm missing having a dog but you kind of get used to it. It's 4 years
> now and I still get some dog hair in the dryer filter, the vacuum
> filter and imbedded in the car upholstery. Just little reminders
> Janet US


Yes, I'm sure we will get used to it. Sophie has been gone for 9 years and
we still find the occasional bone etc.

Cheri
==

i have the pictures of all our dogs on the walls. I always get a pang when
I take particular notice.

On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 10:23:26 AM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>
> Yes, I'm sure we will get used to it. Sophie has been gone for 9 years and
> we still find the occasional bone etc.
>
> Cheri
>
>
When the time comes and you no longer have a dog but would like another,
consider adopting an older dog if you're not up to dealing with a puppy.

The cat I 'fostered' which is now MINE has been here two years and she's
ten years old. It took her three weeks to trust me and realize this is
now her new home. She has settled in quite well and is rather lovey dovey.

> wrote in message
...
> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 10:23:26 AM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I'm sure we will get used to it. Sophie has been gone for 9 years
>> and
>> we still find the occasional bone etc.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
> When the time comes and you no longer have a dog but would like another,
> consider adopting an older dog if you're not up to dealing with a puppy.
>
> The cat I 'fostered' which is now MINE has been here two years and she's
> ten years old. It took her three weeks to trust me and realize this is
> now her new home. She has settled in quite well and is rather lovey
> dovey.

No, not wanting to go through the death etc. of either the dog or one of us.
LOL

Cheri

On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 11:06:10 AM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > When the time comes and you no longer have a dog but would like another,
> > consider adopting an older dog if you're not up to dealing with a puppy.
> >
> > The cat I 'fostered' which is now MINE has been here two years and she's
> > ten years old. It took her three weeks to trust me and realize this is
> > now her new home. She has settled in quite well and is rather lovey
> > dovey.
>
> No, not wanting to go through the death etc. of either the dog or one of us.
> LOL
>
> Cheri
>
>
I understand.

"Cheri" wrote in message news
No, not wanting to go through the death etc. of either the dog or one of us.
LOL

Cheri

==

All our other dogs have been older. The first was 11 yo but we had her
until she was 17 I still miss her

I think it is harder for older dogs to get homes.

Poppy is the youngest we've had, but her looks and history are what drew us
to her. You have seen her original pic. She was a mess.

On 2018-07-30 11:39 AM, wrote:
> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 10:23:26 AM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:

> When the time comes and you no longer have a dog but would like another,
> consider adopting an older dog if you're not up to dealing with a puppy.

That has worked for us with the last four dogs we acquired. One was a
year and a half and came from the pound. He had one accident in the
house the first week, but no chewing issues. The next one was a 5 year
old Belgium Shepherd that we acquired from the neighbour of a friend who
had to get rid of it because of family problems. He worked from home and
had a two year old and a baby and his wife had been hospitalized with
post partum depression. Then there was the Malinois who had behaviour
problems. He was a challenge. A few months ago we got another used dog,
a 6 year old mini golden doodle. Puppies are cute, but their boundless
energy can get to you.


>
> The cat I 'fostered' which is now MINE has been here two years and she's
> ten years old. It took her three weeks to trust me and realize this is
> now her new home. She has settled in quite well and is rather lovey dovey.
>

On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 1:04:59 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Puppies are cute, but their boundless
> energy can get to you.
>
>
Yes, puppies and kittens are just adorable but there comes a time in your
life when dealing with a chewer, barker, wetter, climber, etc. wears pretty
thin. With an older animal they generally have outgrown all those bad baby
habits.

My only complaint about this cat and Smitty before her is they are/were
both terrified of strangers. I wish both were more social and I can
understand Smitty being terrified as he was abused before I took him in.
As far as I know the present cat, Pema, has never been abused and will
finally, *sometimes,* venture out timidly when company is here.

On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 22:08:48 -0500, Hank Rogers >
wrote:

>Druce wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 19:45:27 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 4:53:41 PM UTC-5, Druce wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 14:32:45 -0700 (PDT), GM
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You've a very kind soul, Ms. O....
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it's so much better than getting a "special" breed fro m
>>>
>>> That's a Special Pie! ;-)
>>
>> Yeah, I got distracted and sent an unfinished post
>>
>
>Drucilla came in?

Yes, although I rarely refer to her like that.

Lil' Wayne Boatwright BLEATS:

> On Sun 29 Jul 2018 10:43:05p, Leonard Blaisdell told us...
>
> > In article >, Gary >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> No this was in 2011, border of VA and NC line.
> >> The Great Dismal Swamp. Maybe 40 miles from where I live.
> >
> > If you were sentenced to death by struggle, vermin, predation and
> > disease, where would you want to be dropped in the middle of?
> > The choices a
> >
> > (1) Atchafalaya Basin
> > (2) Everglades
> > (3) Great Dismal Swamp
> >
> > Choose wisely.
> >
> > leo
> >
>
> I used to enjoy your posts. Why on earth are you responding to Gary
> and the likes of him?


STFU, Lil' PEDERAST Wayne...a poster is free to respond to anyone here...why don't you go back to sucking glory hole weenies...

Lol...

--
Best
Greg

On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 07:21:10 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Sun 29 Jul 2018 10:43:05p, Leonard Blaisdell told us...
>
>> In article >, Gary >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> No this was in 2011, border of VA and NC line.
>>> The Great Dismal Swamp. Maybe 40 miles from where I live.
>>
>> If you were sentenced to death by struggle, vermin, predation and
>> disease, where would you want to be dropped in the middle of?
>> The choices a
>>
>> (1) Atchafalaya Basin
>> (2) Everglades
>> (3) Great Dismal Swamp
>>
>> Choose wisely.
>>
>> leo
>>
>
>I used to enjoy your posts. Why on earth are you responding to Gary
>and the likes of him?

That makes 2 people who want to police who people talk to: Supermarket
Steve and Wayne. And then they don't talk to each other! RFC: always
good for a laugh.

Druce wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 07:21:10 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sun 29 Jul 2018 10:43:05p, Leonard Blaisdell told us...
> >
> >> In article >, Gary >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> No this was in 2011, border of VA and NC line.
> >>> The Great Dismal Swamp. Maybe 40 miles from where I live.
> >>
> >> If you were sentenced to death by struggle, vermin, predation and
> >> disease, where would you want to be dropped in the middle of?
> >> The choices a
> >>
> >> (1) Atchafalaya Basin
> >> (2) Everglades
> >> (3) Great Dismal Swamp
> >>
> >> Choose wisely.
> >>
> >> leo
> >>
> >
> >I used to enjoy your posts. Why on earth are you responding to Gary
> >and the likes of him?
>
> That makes 2 people who want to police who people talk to: Supermarket
> Steve and Wayne. And then they don't talk to each other! RFC: always
> good for a laugh.


Lol...ain't it the trvth...Lil' Wayne has *nothing* on Jill in the "old biddy" department...!!!

And Lil' Wayne is just peeved at Steve, Steve called his skanky ass out on actually *stealing* one of his (Steve's) posts...Lil' Wayne we see not only thieves recipes, but also now even folks' *posts*...a pretty squalid business, if you ask me...!!!

--
Best
Greg

Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>
> In article >, Gary > wrote:
>
> > No this was in 2011, border of VA and NC line.
> > The Great Dismal Swamp. Maybe 40 miles from where I live.
>
> If you were sentenced to death by struggle, vermin, predation and
> disease, where would you want to be dropped in the middle of?
> The choices a
>
> (1) Atchafalaya Basin
> (2) Everglades
> (3) Great Dismal Swamp
>
> Choose wisely.

I see that as a loaded question. If I was sentenced to death
by...it wouldn't matter where I went. If it was a survival and
maybe escape situation, I would choose the Dismal Swamp. No known
alligators there anymore. At least that takes out one predator. I
am also a bit familiar with that swamp. Been there a couple of
times.

Probably best that you don't respond to this. Don't want to upset
Wayne again by talking to "the likes of Gary." heheh

He used to enjoy your posts.