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On Mon, 28 May 2018 16:22:45 -0300, wrote:

>On Mon, 28 May 2018 08:22:09 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>
>>On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 10:30:29 AM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>> On 5/28/2018 9:57 AM,
wrote:
>>> > On Mon, 28 May 2018 09:33:30 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> On 5/27/2018 6:33 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>> >>> I just like the printed "word," which also
>>> >>> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> N.
>>> >>
>>> >> Add me to that list. I just picked up a bunch of books. They don't
>>> >> require a cord or recharging.
>>> >>
>>> >> Jill
>>> >
>>> > But OTOH if I'm out somewhere and have to wait, I have about 40 books
>>> > in my purse. I tried to read a paper book recently and gave up and
>>> > found the ebook editiion, much better. I can adjust the print size,
>>> > add backlighting if the light is poor.
>>> >
>>> Hey, if you enjoy the ebook reader, great. Me, I don't need to have 40
>>> books in my purse. I tend to pick one book and read it cover to cover.
>>> I don't generally bounce between books unless I find one to be
>>> exceptionally dull.
>>>
>>> Then again, I don't spend a lot of time in waiting rooms.
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>>A couple times in the past few months I've been out to lunch and reached
>>the end of a book. If I'd been reading paper, I'd have been out of luck.
>>With the e-book library, I just opened another book.
>>
>>Cindy Hamilton

>
>Precisely, I don't spend time in waiting rooms either even if she
>would like to imply I do. I still wait odd times, for a friend to
>arrive for lunch or whatever and it's convenient to have a book to
>hand. I also read one cover to cover, then move on to the next
>despite what madam again tries to imply.


Unless you are renting paper books from the library you are dumping
more paper. I hated to get rid of my paperbacks but they consume so
much room. I like to go back to books I have read from time to time.
With my Kindle there are no more paperbacks and once I finish a book
it goes to the Cloud where I can retrieve any time I want. My Kindle
allows me to create files for certain type of books - author, subject,
whatever so I can retrieve easily whatever I want. And, of course,
with BookBub I get thousands of books free or for $.99 or greatly
discounted delivered direct to my Kindle within a minute of ordering.
I see no way to lose. But, electronics isn't for everyone.
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On Mon, 28 May 2018 16:31:12 -0300, wrote:

>On Mon, 28 May 2018 09:45:46 -0700, "Cheri" >
>wrote:
>
> wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Mon, 28 May 2018 09:33:30 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 5/27/2018 6:33 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>> I just like the printed "word," which also
>>>>> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
>>>>>
>>>>> N.
>>>>
>>>>Add me to that list. I just picked up a bunch of books. They don't
>>>>require a cord or recharging.
>>>>
>>>>Jill
>>>
>>> But OTOH if I'm out somewhere and have to wait, I have about 40 books
>>> in my purse. I tried to read a paper book recently and gave up and
>>> found the ebook editiion, much better. I can adjust the print size,
>>> add backlighting if the light is poor.

>>
>>
>>The Kindle or e-reader is so much handier for me due to arthritis makes it
>>hard to hold books turn pages etc., and as you say I can change the print to
>>larger print at the push of a button or two which makes it easier to see.
>>Seems like we have this conversation about every 3 or 4 months, same with
>>dishwasher versus dishwashing, how far behind can the cell phone debate be?
>>
>>
>>Cheri

>lol Did I tell you about
https://www.bookbub.com/ ? I signed up with
>them and they send me suggestions for books and the most I have ever
>paid is $1.99 ! Cost me more to drive to the library


Suggestions (based on criteria that you have selected previously) are
delivered daily to your email in box. You simply click on something
or not and it is delivered immediately.
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On 5/28/2018 4:39 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2018 16:22:45 -0300, wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 28 May 2018 08:22:09 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 10:30:29 AM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>> On 5/28/2018 9:57 AM,
wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 28 May 2018 09:33:30 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/27/2018 6:33 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>>>> I just like the printed "word," which also
>>>>>>> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> N.
>>>>>> Add me to that list. I just picked up a bunch of books. They don't
>>>>>> require a cord or recharging.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>> But OTOH if I'm out somewhere and have to wait, I have about 40 books
>>>>> in my purse. I tried to read a paper book recently and gave up and
>>>>> found the ebook editiion, much better. I can adjust the print size,
>>>>> add backlighting if the light is poor.
>>>>>
>>>> Hey, if you enjoy the ebook reader, great. Me, I don't need to have 40
>>>> books in my purse. I tend to pick one book and read it cover to cover.
>>>> I don't generally bounce between books unless I find one to be
>>>> exceptionally dull.
>>>>
>>>> Then again, I don't spend a lot of time in waiting rooms.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>> A couple times in the past few months I've been out to lunch and reached
>>> the end of a book. If I'd been reading paper, I'd have been out of luck.
>>> With the e-book library, I just opened another book.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton

>> Precisely, I don't spend time in waiting rooms either even if she
>> would like to imply I do. I still wait odd times, for a friend to
>> arrive for lunch or whatever and it's convenient to have a book to
>> hand. I also read one cover to cover, then move on to the next
>> despite what madam again tries to imply.

> Unless you are renting paper books from the library you are dumping
> more paper. I hated to get rid of my paperbacks but they consume so
> much room. I like to go back to books I have read from time to time.
> With my Kindle there are no more paperbacks and once I finish a book
> it goes to the Cloud where I can retrieve any time I want. My Kindle
> allows me to create files for certain type of books - author, subject,
> whatever so I can retrieve easily whatever I want. And, of course,
> with BookBub I get thousands of books free or for $.99 or greatly
> discounted delivered direct to my Kindle within a minute of ordering.
> I see no way to lose. But, electronics isn't for everyone.
> Janet US


Â* I have a love of paper , and we have a very extensive library .
Currently on my umpteenth rereading of Frank Herbert's Dune series , and
I'm still finding nuances I'd missed . We own neither an e-reader nor a
tablet ...

--
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and crochety .
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On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 12:55:00 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> We have a shopping list always on the refrigerator door. He marks stuff on
> it that he wants.
>
> He pretty often makes a shopping list for the Home Depot.
>
> I can't count the number of times I've waited for some asshole to
> finish backing into a parking spot. What's the point? You have
> to back up at some point, and I'd rather back out of the spot, which
> is much, much easier.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


Any time saved in the front end gets used up in the back end and vice-versa.. People that are enraged by people backing up to park are likely to be enraged by folks backing out of a stall. Mostly it's not the people backing up, it's the person waiting whose spirit is so ornery that they'll consider the act of backing up a personal affront.
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On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 12:20:47 PM UTC-10, Terry Coombs wrote:
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> Â* I have a love of paper , and we have a very extensive library .
> Currently on my umpteenth rereading of Frank Herbert's Dune series , and
> I'm still finding nuances I'd missed . We own neither an e-reader nor a
> tablet ...
>
> --
> Snag
> Yes , I'm old
> and crochety .
> Get off my lawn !


Sounds like you have a love of reading. I love paper because I used to work with the stuff. I like to check out a paper's weight, stiffness, grain direction, and surface texture. If I come across a fine sheet of paper, I'll examine it carefully. That's just a strange thing that I do. One of many I guess.


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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> On 5/28/2018 2:14 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Jill, I never check a website for specials, although I do order my
>>> groceries online.
>>>
>>> I get a weekly sales flyer in the regular mail, and I really prefer
>>> having that as opposed
>>> to spending more time on the computer. I just like the printed "word,"
>>> which also
>>> includes books (instead of electronic readers).

>>
>> For ads I much prefer online. Any paper ads I get are tossed out
>> immediately. I wish they'd do away with mailing them.

>
> The paper ads and coupons I do still get via snail mail are useless.
>
> As for paper (other than books and shopping lists!) I pay most of my bills
> online. For things like the electric and water bill, I've been signed up
> for "paperless billing" at this address for a decade yet I still
> occasionally get paper bills in the mail. Then I have to check and make
> sure it's the same bill, yeah, thought so. I just paid this. A
> duplication of effort and a waste of paper. It's irritating.


Agree. I prefer paperless with everything. The less to recycle, the better.

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> On 5/28/2018 9:50 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 5/28/2018 2:14 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Jill, I never check a website for specials, although I do order my
>>>>> groceries online.
>>>>>
>>>>> I get a weekly sales flyer in the regular mail, and I really prefer
>>>>> having that as opposed
>>>>> to spending more time on the computer. I just like the printed
>>>>> "word," which also
>>>>> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
>>>>
>>>> For ads I much prefer online. Any paper ads I get are tossed out
>>>> immediately. I wish they'd do away with mailing them.
>>>
>>> The paper ads and coupons I do still get via snail mail are useless.

>>
>>
>>
>> I love the paper ads and coupons that come in snail mail.
>>
>> Cheri

>
> I live in a weird area, Cheri. The paper ads I get via snail mail are not
> for nearby stores. Unless you count 50-75 miles as nearby. And they're
> never for anything I want or need. I'm not in the market for furniture
> from an outlet in Bluffton. The paper coupons are often for restaurants,
> e.g. $10 off at some teppankaki grill in Rincon. I've heard of Rincon.
> Never actually been there. I certainly won't be dining there. LOL
> Useless waste of paper.


Yep. I can't remember the last time I got a useful paper coupon except for a
few specific to stores/

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> On 2018-05-28 9:50 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
>>> The paper ads and coupons I do still get via snail mail are useless.

>>
>>
>>
>> I love the paper ads and coupons that come in snail mail.

>
> If they come on garbage I walk back across the street from the mail box
> and drop them into the recycling bin. They don't even make it to the
> house. I try to de-clutter by not even taking it into the house.


Most of the apartments here have a recycle bin right under the mailboxes.

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On 5/28/2018 7:41 PM, dsi1 wrote:

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> Any time saved in the front end gets used up in the back end and vice-versa. People that are enraged by people backing up to park are likely to be enraged by folks backing out of a stall. Mostly it's not the people backing up, it's the person waiting whose spirit is so ornery that they'll consider the act of backing up a personal affront.
>


True.
Many years ago a woman backed out of a parking space and hit the rear
fender of my car. She was very apologetic and we exchanged information.
Later that day, she told me her husband said it was my fault and I was
going to fast. OK, but one call to her insurance got me fixed and paid.
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On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 2:31:28 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> True.
> Many years ago a woman backed out of a parking space and hit the rear
> fender of my car. She was very apologetic and we exchanged information.
> Later that day, she told me her husband said it was my fault and I was
> going to fast. OK, but one call to her insurance got me fixed and paid.


I had that happen to me recently. I pulled out of a space and was startled to see a car backing up on the rear fender of my car. I honked my horn but the guy wasn't listening. That's certainly a helpless feeling. I was like a deer in the headlights. He just tapped me little. A love tap.


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"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
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> On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 12:46:52 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Mon, 28 May 2018 09:33:30 -0400, jmcquown >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>On 5/27/2018 6:33 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>> >>> I just like the printed "word," which also
>> >>> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
>> >>>
>> >>> N.
>> >>
>> >>Add me to that list. I just picked up a bunch of books. They don't
>> >>require a cord or recharging.
>> >>
>> >>Jill
>> >
>> > But OTOH if I'm out somewhere and have to wait, I have about 40 books
>> > in my purse. I tried to read a paper book recently and gave up and
>> > found the ebook editiion, much better. I can adjust the print size,
>> > add backlighting if the light is poor.

>>
>>
>> The Kindle or e-reader is so much handier for me due to arthritis makes
>> it
>> hard to hold books turn pages etc., and as you say I can change the print
>> to
>> larger print at the push of a button or two which makes it easier to see.
>> Seems like we have this conversation about every 3 or 4 months, same with
>> dishwasher versus dishwashing, how far behind can the cell phone debate
>> be?
>>
>>
>> Cheri

>
> Well, we are talking about grocery lists. Should be pretty soon.
>
> Cindy Hamilton



Actually, I'm pretty sure the debate over credit cards versus checks or cash
at the checkout is pretty close, or at least the *they bag or you bag* the
groceries discussions are coming soon. ;-)

Cheri

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> On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 1:13:57 PM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > Check out an episode of Parking Wars. I think it is on A&E showing
>> > reruns.

>>
>>
>> I get a kick out of that show, especially the guy with the pony tail that
>> thinks he's so slick.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>

> They've told what his name is a dozen times but he goes by the moniker
> 'Ponytail' and that's all I can remember to call him and I don't even
> know him. Hahahahahahaaaaa
>



That's it!

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On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 7:31:28 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Many years ago a woman backed out of a parking space and hit the rear
> fender of my car. She was very apologetic and we exchanged information.
> Later that day, she told me her husband said it was my fault and I was
> going to fast. OK, but one call to her insurance got me fixed and paid.
>
>

And just how did her husband deduce it was your fault?? You weren't even
moving were you? He just didn't like the idea of an accident on his
insurance record, correct?

As far as someone thinking I'm wasting their time because they have to
wait 45 seconds for me to back in there is a solution for that annoyance.
Be there when the doors open first thing in the morning or shop at 2:00
a.m. Problem solved!!

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> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 28 May 2018 09:45:46 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
> wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Mon, 28 May 2018 09:33:30 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 5/27/2018 6:33 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>> I just like the printed "word," which also
>>>>> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
>>>>>
>>>>> N.
>>>>
>>>>Add me to that list. I just picked up a bunch of books. They don't
>>>>require a cord or recharging.
>>>>
>>>>Jill
>>>
>>> But OTOH if I'm out somewhere and have to wait, I have about 40 books
>>> in my purse. I tried to read a paper book recently and gave up and
>>> found the ebook editiion, much better. I can adjust the print size,
>>> add backlighting if the light is poor.

>>
>>
>>The Kindle or e-reader is so much handier for me due to arthritis makes it
>>hard to hold books turn pages etc., and as you say I can change the print
>>to
>>larger print at the push of a button or two which makes it easier to see.
>>Seems like we have this conversation about every 3 or 4 months, same with
>>dishwasher versus dishwashing, how far behind can the cell phone debate
>>be?
>>
>>
>>Cheri

> lol Did I tell you about https://www.bookbub.com/ ? I signed up with
> them and they send me suggestions for books and the most I have ever
> paid is $1.99 ! Cost me more to drive to the library



Yes, I believe it was Cindy who first told me, but I've seen others mention
it since. A great place that I use often. I like the fact that you can set
up what kind of books you want to read and it comes in the email every day.

Cheri

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On 5/28/2018 6:49 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 12:20:47 PM UTC-10, Terry Coombs wrote:
>> Â* I have a love of paper , and we have a very extensive library .
>> Currently on my umpteenth rereading of Frank Herbert's Dune series , and
>> I'm still finding nuances I'd missed . We own neither an e-reader nor a
>> tablet ...
>>
>> --
>> Snag
>> Yes , I'm old
>> and crochety .
>> Get off my lawn !

> Sounds like you have a love of reading. I love paper because I used to work with the stuff. I like to check out a paper's weight, stiffness, grain direction, and surface texture. If I come across a fine sheet of paper, I'll examine it carefully. That's just a strange thing that I do. One of many I guess.


Â* Not that my childhood was all that bad , but I learned early to
escape the world around me by immersing myself in a book . Still works
many decades later .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety .
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On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 3:24:25 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> I was driving down the aisle looking for a spot. I was nearly past her
> and she caught the rear fender as I passed. Evidently she did not look
> very well.


Pulling out of a spot is a real drag. My vision is typically limited because my car is set kind of low compared to all the trucks and SUVs out here. This is a big problem when pulling out of diagonal parking spaces. I can't see nothing until I'm half way out.

Straight parking spaces that are wide are easier to pull out of. If I see that backing out of a parking space could be a problem, I'll back into it. I do this instinctively, evidently.
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On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 3:30:54 PM UTC-10, Terry Coombs wrote:
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> Â* Not that my childhood was all that bad , but I learned early to
> escape the world around me by immersing myself in a book . Still works
> many decades later .
>
> --
> Snag
> Yes , I'm old
> and crochety .
> Get off my lawn !


I wish I could do that. I used to do that by playing music during a stressful time of my life but these days I don't play music. Perhaps I'll start it up again when I need too.


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On Mon, 28 May 2018 17:19:44 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>> On 5/28/2018 2:14 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Jill, I never check a website for specials, although I do order my
>>>> groceries online.
>>>>
>>>> I get a weekly sales flyer in the regular mail, and I really prefer
>>>> having that as opposed
>>>> to spending more time on the computer. I just like the printed "word,"
>>>> which also
>>>> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
>>>
>>> For ads I much prefer online. Any paper ads I get are tossed out
>>> immediately. I wish they'd do away with mailing them.

>>
>> The paper ads and coupons I do still get via snail mail are useless.
>>
>> As for paper (other than books and shopping lists!) I pay most of my bills
>> online. For things like the electric and water bill, I've been signed up
>> for "paperless billing" at this address for a decade yet I still
>> occasionally get paper bills in the mail. Then I have to check and make
>> sure it's the same bill, yeah, thought so. I just paid this. A
>> duplication of effort and a waste of paper. It's irritating.

>
>Agree. I prefer paperless with everything. The less to recycle, the better.


So why are you buying water in plastic bottles???
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On 5/28/2018 8:31 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> Many years ago a woman backed out of a parking space and hit the rear
> fender of my car.Â* She was very apologetic and we exchanged information.
> Â*Later that day, she told me her husband said it was my fault and I was
> going to fast.Â* OK, but one call to her insurance got me fixed and paid.


We had the driveway sealed so left the cars in the street for a day.
The guy across the street backed right into the driver's side door.
Even though he wasn't going fast, it was a hassle getting it fixed,
I wish he would have hit the rear fender instead.

Not a great way to meet the new neighbors. I know he was crushed to
ring the doorbell with that news.

nancy

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In article >, Nancy Young
> wrote:

> We had the driveway sealed so left the cars in the street for a day.
> The guy across the street backed right into the driver's side door.
> Even though he wasn't going fast, it was a hassle getting it fixed,
> I wish he would have hit the rear fender instead.


Your car is fixed. You might not have fixed it if it was the lousy rear
fender and driven around like a transient for years.

> Not a great way to meet the new neighbors. I know he was crushed to
> ring the doorbell with that news.


He's a good neighbor in spite of himself. I'd have blamed it on my
wife. Umm...or the dog. That's the ticket!

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On 5/29/2018 12:20 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 3:30:54 PM UTC-10, Terry Coombs wrote:
>> Â* Not that my childhood was all that bad , but I learned early to
>> escape the world around me by immersing myself in a book . Still works
>> many decades later .
>>
>> --
>> Snag
>> Yes , I'm old
>> and crochety .
>> Get off my lawn !

> I wish I could do that. I used to do that by playing music during a stressful time of my life but these days I don't play music. Perhaps I'll start it up again when I need too.


Â* My wife usually turns the TV off before she leaves for work ... saves
me doing it , because most days I turn on music after she leaves . Got a
comp out in the shop that has a fairly decent sound system hooked up , I
can hear it most everywhere outside while I'm working in the yard .

--
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On 5/29/2018 7:52 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
>> We had the driveway sealed so left the cars in the street for a day.
>> The guy across the street backed right into the driver's side door.
>> Even though he wasn't going fast, it was a hassle getting it fixed,
>> I wish he would have hit the rear fender instead.

>
> Your car is fixed. You might not have fixed it if it was the lousy rear
> fender and driven around like a transient for years.


Wind up costing us lots because the original repair guy pinched a
window wire. We didn't bring it back to be fixed by him, would have
had to rent a car blah blah.

And drive it around with a dent? Hahahahaha! That's funny, I should
tell Ron that one for a laugh. Mr Perfection driving a dented car.
Good one.

>> Not a great way to meet the new neighbors. I know he was crushed to
>> ring the doorbell with that news.

>
> He's a good neighbor in spite of himself. I'd have blamed it on my
> wife. Umm...or the dog. That's the ticket!


Here's my secret. I feel kind of bad about it because where Ron
put it first, I thought it would be in the way of the driveway guys
so he moved to across from the guy's driveway. I wanted to say Not
there, bad idea ... but I didn't.

Ooops.

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On Tue, 29 May 2018 07:23:45 -0400, Nancy Young >
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>On 5/28/2018 8:31 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> Many years ago a woman backed out of a parking space and hit the rear
>> fender of my car.* She was very apologetic and we exchanged information.
>> *Later that day, she told me her husband said it was my fault and I was
>> going to fast.* OK, but one call to her insurance got me fixed and paid.

>
>We had the driveway sealed so left the cars in the street for a day.
>The guy across the street backed right into the driver's side door.
>Even though he wasn't going fast, it was a hassle getting it fixed,
>I wish he would have hit the rear fender instead.
>
>Not a great way to meet the new neighbors. I know he was crushed to
>ring the doorbell with that news.
>
>nancy


At least he let you know he did it.
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> Time to re-stock the freezer. I was perusing the Publix weekly ad.
> Nothing much in the way of beef on sale. I decided to dig beyond and
> look at what else is available in the meat department. According to
> their web site.
>
> I've never liked the term "flap steak". Nor the term "skirt steak".
> I know exactly what they're used for - fajitas. That sort of meat
> requires a lot of marinating and tenderizing.
>
> In any event, the web site can't tell you the price of these pieces
> of tough meat. But yes, they have lots of different cuts available.
>
> I am looking for some nice tender tenderloin filets. I like
> porterhouse steaks but really don't want to contend with cutting
> steaks off the bone.
>
> Oh yes, just found prime filets! For actual prime, I have to buy
> vacuum packed named branded ones... but they're prime, not choice.
> You know this means XX dollars. Ditto the rib-eyes.
>
> How often do you use your grocery store's web site to see what is
> available before you make a shopping list?
>
> Jill


Very often here!

I also don't stick too hard to a shopping list.

What I do is get 500$ worth major load every 6 weeks then in the 3 week
timeframe middle of that, another 150$ (fresh veggies and such). Now
since i am feeding 3, at 36$ a week each that isn't all that is going
on. I use other stores for fresh asian veggies and fresh fish. We
average a bit over 50$ a week per adult here when you add in the other
bits.
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On Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 3:04:00 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-05-29 10:24 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 2:51:29 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2018-05-28 1:41 PM, wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 28 May 2018 08:09:27 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Here most parking lots are designed with several rows of double spots,
> >>> most find a spot with the with an empty spot in front so they pull in
> >>> and park in the attached empty spot, when they leave they just pull
> >>> out.
> >>
> >> Drive in drive out is the aim of those who teach defensive driving.

> >
> > What percentage of cars in the parking lots that you frequent
> > back in, would you say?

>
> I have to say that I do not see many backing it. The smartest move is
> drive in and drive out. That is what I do if I can. I do see lots of
> vehicles parked nose out, but don't know if they drove in or backed in.


If I don't think I'll need access to the back of the vehicle, and
if it's convenient, I'll pull through as well. My algorithm for
parking is to pick the aisle closest to the door (ours almost
universally run perpendicular to the front of the building),
and drive down it until I come to the first open space ("down"
being "away from the building").

I don't actually see people backing in all that often. They seem
to have enough trouble lining it up when they park nose-in.

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> On Tue 29 May 2018 04:23:45a, Nancy Young told us...


>
> We had the opposite experience. We were sitting still in the aisle
> of a parking lot waiting for a space to free up that was several cars
> ahead when a woman got in her car precisely lined up with the
> driver's side of our car. She backed straight into our car with
> enough force to require replacement of both front and back doors and
> then had the audacity to claim she didn't do it and that we were in
> her way. She wouldn't give us her insurance information, but the
> there were security cameras that got it all on tape, anad we got her
> license plate number. We had it traced and her insurance company
> paid the bill. The sad part was that our brand new car was only 2
> days old. The way she acted, if it wasn't against the law I would
> have knocked her out cold on the pavement. She was a certifiable nut
> case!


I hate it when people jerk you around like that. My son was out on our
car one night and got rear ended while making a left turn. The guy
claimed he had not signalled his turn, contrary to what independent
witnesses said. He then tried to get my son charged for not producing
the insurance. It was there, but he could not find it. The cop said
told the guy that he would not even need to produce the insurance had he
(other driver) not been driving like and idiot. He later told the guy
to keep talking and he would keep writing.

As it turned out, this guy was insured by Pafco, a last chance insurance
company for bad drivers. He called me up and wanted to work out a deal.
He did not want to go through his insurance company. He had a buddy who
worked in the body shop of a trucking company who would do the work on
weekends.

Yeah right, I was going to give up my car for 3-4 weekends so his buddy
could safe him some money.... after crashing into the car my son was
driving, lying about what happened and trying to have him charged. No way.

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On Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 11:43:24 AM UTC-5, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> We had the opposite experience. We were sitting still in the aisle
> of a parking lot waiting for a space to free up. She backed straight
> into our car with
> enough force to require replacement of both front and back doors and
> then had the audacity to claim she didn't do it and that we were in
> her way. She wouldn't give us her insurance information, but the
> there were security cameras that got it all on tape, anad we got her
> license plate number.
>
>

You didn't call the police when the accident occurred???
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> I have to say that I do not see many backing it. The smartest move is
> drive in and drive out. That is what I do if I can. I do see lots of
> vehicles parked nose out, but don't know if they drove in or backed in.
>
>

Same here. I wonder if they just pulled through or actually backed in?
If given the opportunity I will pull through but won't hesitate to back
in.

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>jmcquown wrote:
>
>> How often do you use your grocery store's web site to see what is
>> available before you make a shopping list?

>
>If you're stocking the freezer, one of those 10lb logs of ground
>beef for $18


Mystery/Misery Meat!



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On 5/28/2018 1:46 PM, wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2018 10:30:21 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/28/2018 9:57 AM,
wrote:
>>> On Mon, 28 May 2018 09:33:30 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/27/2018 6:33 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>> I just like the printed "word," which also
>>>>> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
>>>>>
>>>>> N.
>>>>
>>>> Add me to that list. I just picked up a bunch of books. They don't
>>>> require a cord or recharging.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> But OTOH if I'm out somewhere and have to wait, I have about 40 books
>>> in my purse. I tried to read a paper book recently and gave up and
>>> found the ebook editiion, much better. I can adjust the print size,
>>> add backlighting if the light is poor.
>>>

>> Hey, if you enjoy the ebook reader, great. Me, I don't need to have 40
>> books in my purse. I tend to pick one book and read it cover to cover.
>> I don't generally bounce between books unless I find one to be
>> exceptionally dull.
>>
>> Then again, I don't spend a lot of time in waiting rooms.
>>
>> Jill

>
> Waiting rooms generally have lousy magazines.
> I always have crossword puzzles with me.
>

When I go to the doctor, I take a paperback book. Could be halfway
through it, doesn't matter. I have never had to wait so long as to need
another book.

I don't care how anyone reads their books. I think reading is
important. I also have always found it very enjoyable.

Jill
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On 5/28/2018 12:46 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
> On 5/28/2018 11:08 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> There is a white bean soup recipe from a long ago restaurant I've
>> always wanted to replicate.Â* I don't care if it calls for canned
>> beans. They're great northern beans, love them!
>>
>> I occasionally went out to lunch at a little restaurant in Memphis
>> with co-workers.Â* This down home place on Poplar Avenue in East
>> Memphis always had White Bean Soup on Thursdays. (Wednesdays was
>> Chicken & Dumplings.)Â* Oh man, was that bean soup delicious! And no,
>> there was no detectible ham or bacon.Â* I never could figure out how to
>> replicate that delicious white bean soup.Â* Every meal was served with
>> wonderful melt in your mouth biscuits and cornbread.
>>
>> The parking lot was atrocious.Â* Had to get there early; we often left
>> for lunch around 10:30 just so we knew we'd be able to park and get
>> in. The food was that good. I'm sure the place has long since
>> closed.Â* I never have been able to replicate that soup.
>>
>> Jill

>
> Â* Would that be The Blue Plate Cafe ?
>


Yes, that would be the one. Used to be Kemmons Wilson's first house.
He of the Holiday Inn motel chain fame.

That "white bean soup" was wonderful.

Jill
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On Thu, 31 May 2018 19:41:09 -0400, jmcquown >
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>On 5/28/2018 1:46 PM, wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 May 2018 10:30:21 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/28/2018 9:57 AM,
wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 28 May 2018 09:33:30 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/27/2018 6:33 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>>> I just like the printed "word," which also
>>>>>> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> N.
>>>>>
>>>>> Add me to that list. I just picked up a bunch of books. They don't
>>>>> require a cord or recharging.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> But OTOH if I'm out somewhere and have to wait, I have about 40 books
>>>> in my purse. I tried to read a paper book recently and gave up and
>>>> found the ebook editiion, much better. I can adjust the print size,
>>>> add backlighting if the light is poor.
>>>>
>>> Hey, if you enjoy the ebook reader, great. Me, I don't need to have 40
>>> books in my purse. I tend to pick one book and read it cover to cover.
>>> I don't generally bounce between books unless I find one to be
>>> exceptionally dull.
>>>
>>> Then again, I don't spend a lot of time in waiting rooms.
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> Waiting rooms generally have lousy magazines.
>> I always have crossword puzzles with me.
>>

>When I go to the doctor, I take a paperback book. Could be halfway
>through it, doesn't matter. I have never had to wait so long as to need
>another book.
>
>I don't care how anyone reads their books. I think reading is
>important. I also have always found it very enjoyable.
>
>Jill

It's a rare time I go to the doctor however, like this a.m. after
getting my groceries I noticed the nail place was just opening up and
I figured go get a pedicure. Went in and was attended to immediately.
So while the man does my toe nails, I read my book rather than
watching the rubbish television.

The other thing I particularly like about an ereader is I can keep
poetry on it for those times I would like to read that. Yes, I do
read a book at a time, from cover to cover, then move on to the next,
having so many available does not mean I skip around between them. I
don't know why you assumed I 'bounced' around between books. Maybe
you need to try an ereader and find out the benefits. Plus, think of
all the trees it saves.
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On 5/28/2018 3:28 PM, wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2018 10:22:05 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 2018-05-28 10:10 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2018-05-28 10:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 5/28/2018 10:04 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 8:54:50 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> On 2018-05-28 6:54 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't count the number of times I've waited for some asshole to
>>>>>>> finish backing into a parking spot.Â* What's the point?Â* You have
>>>>>>> to back up at some point, and I'd rather back out of the spot, which
>>>>>>> is much, much easier.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It shouldn't take much longer to back into a space than it does to
>>>>>> drive
>>>>>> it.Â* I would expect that anyone who does it should be able to back well
>>>>>> enough that it should not take any great effort.Â*Â* While it may take
>>>>>> just a little longer to back in they will gain that time back when they
>>>>>> drive straight out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People who back into spaces are probably better trained drivers. It is
>>>>>> generally safer to back in than to drive in and then have to back out
>>>>>> because it is harder so see vehicles and pedestrians approaching from
>>>>>> the side.Â* Ideally, people should choose a space where they can
>>>>>> drive in
>>>>>> and drive out. The next best is to back in and drive out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should.Â* Should.Â* Should.Â* The plain and simple fact is that people who
>>>>> back into a space take extra time and do a poor job of aligning their
>>>>> car between the lines on the pavement.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you can't back out of a parking space, it's time to turn in your
>>>>> driver's license.
>>>>>
>>>>> Besides:Â* How the hell do you get groceries into the trunk when it's
>>>>> jammed up against the car behind you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>> He's making specious arguments.Â* It makes absolutely no sense to take
>>>> the time to back into a parking space at the grocery store.Â* Takes
>>>> more time to pull up, align and back in than it would to just park.
>>>> Of course he's assuming everyone has backup cameras.Â* Nope, not
>>>> everyone ran out and bought a new vehicle.Â* I just want to park and
>>>> get into the store, okay?Â* Get the hell out of the way.
>>>
>>> There is nothing specious about my argument. It is taught in defensive
>>> driving courses.Â* There is no assumption about back up cameras. In fact
>>> I have said several times here that I think they are over rated and
>>> argued against making them mandatory.Â* We all have mirrors on our cars
>>> and heads on top of necks that turn.Â* The only advantage I see in back
>>> up cameras is that they let you know how close you are to the car behind.
>>>
>>> If you find it too taxing to back into a parking space you must have a
>>> hell of a time parallel parking.
>>>
>>>

>> With age, my neck and shoulder are not so flexible as they used to be
>> and reversing into narrow parking spaces is not as easy as it was when I
>> was younger.

>
> It's no use graham, you are trying to argue with someone who has
> rarely done a days work in her life, lives with elderly people in a
> compound and doesn't really understand life today as it it.
>

Why are you so concerned about where I live?! As for "rarely done a
days work", you know nothing about it so STFU. Why don't you yell at
Cindy? She's the one who brought up the whole backing into a parking
space issue in the first place.

Jill
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